Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - The Art of Kissing (w/ LU KALA)

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

 Musician LU KALA joins Nicole to discuss why the dating world feels so broken after COVID, the skill behind a good kiss, planning what should happen to your sex toys when you die, the stigma around dating a plus sized woman, and roleplay flirting with each other. Plus, Nicole receives an unexpected large black dildo to her door. Check out LU KALA's new single, Looking for Love. Nicole has a new crowd working special! Watch it on YouTube. Follow Nicole Byer: Twitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerMerch: podswag.com/datemeNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746

Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why! Oh baby! Welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me? A podcast where me, Nicole Byers, was trying to figure out why I'm still single, but, like, so many episodes have passed, nobody knows.

So now I'm just having fun talking to people I find interesting. My guest today is a multi-Juno-nominated singer and songwriter. She was featured on Lotto's hit song, Lottery. Her new single, Nothing But Love, is out now. And I found her on Instagram a while ago, and I was like, ooh, this is a fun lady. I like her. It's Luke Hallett! Yay!

Hi. Thank you so much for doing this. Thanks for having me. Luke Hallett, so your first language is French? It is. Okay, so when did you learn English? That's a weird question. Yeah, no.

When you say that, I'm like, I don't know if I've ever really thought about that. Do you just remember being bilingual from the jump? Well, because I'm from Toronto, I feel like you have to speak English like you just have to speak English so I did grow up going to French school before I kind of got over I went to just English school but I don't know I guess since I was in elementary school like you had to know how to speak English to like survive in Toronto so the question came out wild but the reason for the question is I've been trying to learn Spanish and I find it so hard. Yeah.

So somebody who grows up being bilingual, I'm like, well, when does it happen? How do we do this? They say like under the age of four is when it's like the easiest and fastest time to learn a language. And I think because I grew up with so many people that only spoke English, that's why I don't really have an accent. Like you wouldn't know I speak French if you just heard me speak English. And have you been to France? I haven't, yeah.

And I have family there, so I don't know what's up with that. You gotta go. Hopefully soon. I've been to Switzerland, though, and, like, the French side. I've never been to Switzerland. Did you get hit on in Switzerland? I did. Was anybody, like, cute?

All they called me down the streets, which is hilarious because I looked nothing like either of them, was like, Rihanna, Nicki Minaj. And it's just because my hair is orange and I feel like they were not used to seeing someone with such bright hair walking down the street. I was like, I'll take it. It's giving me bad calorie. When I was in Africa, this man called me Madea. So I would say you got a better better compliment i did win can't lie you yeah you definitely did win but it's so funny to me that somebody who's like here's a black person i know i'll yell that at you like they were literally yelling it across the street i was like after a while i was like wait i think they're talking to me i'm like this is actually very insane am i rihanna? Am I Nicki Minaj? Am I Bayesian? Or Trinidadian? I'm one of them.

Period. So are you single, dating, married? Don't want to say. I'm single. Okay. Are you looking? I'm open. I'm open.

Okay. That's so vague. Like, are you just, so you're like, I'm open for something to come to me or are you you're open to like start trying what what does this open mean I'm like if you're hot and you listen to this come find me with Calla you know I'm like yeah I'm open to somebody I guess I'm looking a little bit but not too hard because it's not even like I'm on anything oh you're not on the apps or anything no were you ever I was I was I was but then it got like really weird I feel like when things started moving more like I would literally get people saying like oh my gosh like I listen to your

music oh my gosh this and that and I was like this is kind of like odd uh and there's just weirdos sometimes so I was like I don't know maybe I'm meant to meet someone in real life so we should see that's the era I'm in is meeting somebody in real life so we should see. That's the era I'm in is meeting somebody in real life but I'm like I have to leave my house to do that. I literally said that the other day like my friend was like let's go out and I was like yeah I'm down let's meet someone a couple hours later I was looking at the clock

and I was like I don't really have it in me. I'm not gonna hold you but I'm like how am I gonna ever meet somebody if I never go anywhere I know. And then everyone's like oh maybe like I'll like you know someone should introduce me to somebody but I never go anywhere. I know. And then everyone's like, oh, maybe like I'll, like, you know, someone should introduce me to somebody.

But, I'll leave it there. I keep asking people to introduce me to somebody and everyone's always like, oh, my friends are garbage. And I'm like, okay, well.

It's giving its code for, I don't know if they like the thick girls. That's what it's code for, honestly, because, I don't know, this is LA.

That never occurred to me. Oh, sorry to burst the bubble. It's okay it's code for, honestly, because, I don't know, this is LA. That never occurred to me. Oh, sorry to burst the bubble. It's okay to bubble and burst. Damn. I don't know. I feel like, I don't know who's going to send me up with someone in LA. Who knows? Maybe I'm being like, maybe I need to be optimistic. Maybe.

How long have you been in LA? A year. Okay, so you're still new to LA. I love that you're already jaded on L.A. You're just like, never going to find anybody here. I don't know. I think dating in L.A. is just such an interesting place. It feels different. It is different.

I lived in New York for a while. And New York to here, it's so different in a way that I can't even describe. Yeah. Because people's nights end earlier here and nobody wants to be friends here. Unless you have a lot going on. I guess. But like what I mean is like I love just talking

to people randomly and I feel like people are just like, ew, why are you talking to me? And I'm like, but I just want to have fun. It's tough for me to know who's being genuine and who's not being genuine in LA.A. It definitely is hard. You know, I said earlier, I agree.

It's hard to know who's who's here for the right reasons. I did say earlier that like love doesn't just come to your doorstep, but like maybe it will. I ordered a charger for my phone, like an aux cord to go in my car. And instead of sending me an aux cord, they sent I got sent a dildo. I got sent. And that's something you can go in my car. And instead of sending me an aux cord, I got sent a dildo. I got sent... That's something you can't be in love with. Yeah, I feel like I could be in love with it. I thought Amazon...

I was like, did Amazon send this to me? Because they were like, you need a dick in your life. I am screaming. It was wild because I looked on Amazon and it was like, ooh, delivered. And I said, ooh, my charger's here. And then I looked on amazon it was like oh delivered i said oh my charger's here and then i opened it i was like this is a huge box for a little charger and then i opened it and i was like this is a dildo oh my god and it came with anal lube and i was like lube is lube

i think you could just throw it i didn't know there was a difference me either but it specifically said anal lube and it's not a lot, and it's a very big dildo, and I was like, y'all think I have more girth than I do back there. I am screaming. Like, how did we get here? Because I was like, love maybe can come to your door.

It can, or I don't know if that's just a movie thing, or if it really can show up at the door. I don't know, the dildo came to my door. I love that for you. And then I was like, should I return it? But then can show up at the door i don't know the dildo came to my door um and then i was like should i return it but then i was like well you don't return a gift god sent i was gonna ask you did you keep it it's currently just right by my front door because i'm like i don't know at this point it clearly was meant to be yours it was meant to be um but it was just so so then i ordered another charger this was this literally happened like two days ago so i ordered another one and i

wonder if i'm gonna get my charger or another deal like do you think you're gonna be like ha ha ha i'm just trying to figure out if this company is selling chargers and dildos maybe like i mean you have to be multifaceted nowadays so i'm just wondering what's going on with that company i know it was so interesting and strange. Has anything weird like that happened to you? You're like, no, lady, your life is fucked up. No. Off the top of my head.

I mean, I'm sure there's been a lot of things like that where maybe I ordered something similar and it did not arrive. But I don't know. So have you had any relationships? Have you been in one? I have not. You haven't? I've dated somebody, and I guess you could call it a relationship, but who knows what they were calling it.

It wasn't a thing that was super cohesive. I'm like, geez, you really want my business out there on the streets. Well, you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. No, I don't have to answer it if you don't want to. No. I don't feel like I have been. And I guess I'm a little comforted in knowing, like, nowadays I feel like a lot of people don't feel like they've genuinely been in a relationship. I've been in situationships. Same.

Like people. People have liked me. I've been on dates. But I don't think I would call any of those people, like, an ex. I don't know what they call me, but that's on them. That's such an interesting thing. I wonder if anyone would call me an ex. Or they're just, like, that crazy bitch I dated for a little bit.

I don't know. You know when you watch, like, some of those shows on reality TVs and they're like, the ex said this and that? I'm like, you would say something about me. I'm like, I don't feel like I have an ex. You know? I'm like, am I damaged goods? What's going on? You're not damaged goods. No.

I don't think I am. I think we're living in a weird time period, honestly. Yes. I think a lot of people haven't been with somebody seriously. And then I think a lot of people just are trying to date right now and are not finding that person. Yes. I also think reality television is like speed. So, okay, I love 90 Day Fiancé.

And they have this offshoot called The Single Life. Mars, I think I talked about this last week. Zoopsies. Anywho. So this guy, Ty Ray, goes on a first date with a woman. And he goes, I feel like we have a connection. You don't know that, bitch. You don't have a connection. You don't know that, bitch. You don't have a connection.

You know you think she's attractive, but you simply don't have a connection. And then he was like, and then he on the first date was like, how do you feel about long distance relationships? Because they were both on a trip in New Orleans. Right. So they didn't live down there.

And I'm like, on a first date? That's insane. Again, you don't know this person I don't know if we're all a little damaged from the pandemic we are you know so I think that like in our brains we're like skipping like I hear some of the questions yeah I hear some of the questions people ask people on a first date I'm like that would make me run away like why are we talking about all this but at the same time I think people also just feel like I don't have a like time to waste so I need to know where you stand on this.

Because I don't want to waste my time if I live this far. But I'm personally not really doing that long distance thing right now. I don't think I would do a long distance relationship. But if I met somebody that I was interested in, I think I would be open to it. Open to try. But again, I don't know you. Do you know what I mean? I want to say i'd be

open to it but i feel like the last person i spoke to um again not dated spoke to the last person i spoke to that was like long distance like i would just need you to do a lot for me to even think about it and i think a lot of people in their mind think that they're doing more um so it's just probably not for me what do you need someone to do for you? Oh. I don't know. You can send me some gifts. You need to show me that I'm on your mind.

You know what I mean? And it can't just be you texting me and calling me because I think anybody can do that. I'm not looking for a pen pal. So I feel like you kind of have to do some actions. You know what I mean? I don't know. You were thinking about me. Maybe you even send me a letter in the mail. That would be cute. pal okay you know so i feel like you kind of have to do some like actions like you know okay um i don't know you were thinking about me maybe you even send me a letter in the mail like that would be cute that'd be romantic like i just feel like where's the romance nowadays and don't just send me flowers when you do something wrong because i feel like that's the only time i get flowers

uh so like the last person that like sent me flowers recently like i never responded back to them like i just didn't care. It just was like, why did you send me those flowers? I literally don't talk to you. Is this what it's like to have standards? If someone sent me, I dated someone who got me flowers once and I was like,

oh my God. Anytime they did something wrong, I'd be like, well, at least they got me flowers that one time. Yeah, no, it's not worth it. I guess not. Because clearly they're going to do the same thing again thing again and be like oh I can just get you back the moment that I sent her some flowers but you keep the flowers or matter of fact I'll keep them but I won't even post it like I'm not even gonna let you feel special by you seeing it online like you're not gonna see the bouquet ever like I'm not even gonna thank you I'm just gonna have it I don't know you oh my god I need a little bit of that I don't have any of that

if you buy me flowers and if you say hello to me I'm like oh my god I'm in like I had a server the other day at a restaurant and he said more than like can I take you order like and I was like I'm gonna marry him I love him so much And then I tried so hard to flirt with him. But then I just ended up being weird. And then it turned out he knew who I was. So then I think he liked the weird. But then I don't know. And then I was like, if you know who I am, are you gay?

And then he's like, but maybe you're bi. But then you can't just ask somebody that. Right. I mean, I do sometimes. But I think I get in trouble for it. So now I just learn to not talk anymore. My team would be like, Lou, stop asking questions. Like, please don't.

Just don't ask. I mean, I wish. I don't know. I think it's really important to have standards in dating, especially if you're like, you know, I've been single this long. I might as well stay this way until I find someone who treats me the right way. And yeah, I don't know. Like, no. Like, if you do me wrong it's my cutoff game is

very strong i wish i i'm not like that because i'm like there's goodness in everyone and your goodness will shine through i'm manifesting that for you this year in 2024 we are cutting them off yes we're like literally blocking them everywhere so you can hit me up yeah like literally who someone asked me like oh like this person was talking with who oh my god but like genuinely you're so in your locked off in your head that you're literally wondering who like who I've never wondered who I'm like I know exactly who you are I know where you live and I know the last time we spoke I think I'm just like a hopeless romantic where i love that i feel like when you click with someone you're like well why can't this

be a lovely happily ever after i just want to be with the person that makes me feel free and comfortable enough to really believe in that happily ever after but like most people like just talk a big game and like i'm like huh I feel comfortable with people not like immediately but I'm also a very strange person yeah so I don't realize I'm doing weird shit until they're like oh that was weird I'm like oh no I guess I'm comfortable with you um I get comfortable I get comfortable a bit too quickly so I get get it. I just, I don't know. What are you looking for in a partner? What am I looking for?

Treating you well. Yeah, I think someone who could be romantic. I said gifts, but it's not really just gifts. I think it's literally someone just thinking about you and doing nice things because they are thinking about you on their regular day-to-day life. Because if I was walking down the street and I was with somebody, again, like we are together, and I saw a top that I felt like you would like, I would get it. You know what I mean?

I would be like, just because acts of service I think are beautiful things. Open the door. We need some chivalry. Hold the elevator. Those are basics. So it's actually very sad that you just have to do it. It's very sad that this is a thing you even have to mention

because that's very basic but I don't know someone who's like smart like teach me some things I want to teach you some things

like teach me some things someone who holds me to the highest regard because I'm a queen so you should someone who's ambitious because I don't know,

there's nothing like less like attractive than somebody who just doesn't want to do anything with their life. For me at least, like I need you to be on your stuff because I work hard.

And also, it would be nice to date somebody who kind of had more freedom, you know, a little change, a little more than change in their pockets

because I want to go on vacations. Like, you know, I want to, and the kind of schedule I'm sure you lead a little change a little more than change in their pockets okay because i want to go on vacations like you know i want to and the kind of schedule i'm sure you need a similar one is things could be really really busy yeah you might just find out you have a couple days free out of nowhere yes like let's go on a trip like let's have fun like i don't know it's a couple things i'm looking for i guess it's a couple of things but I also think it's fully attainable and it's so attainable oh I I like the whole are you thinking about me I dated somebody who I thought of often because I really liked them and they liked anime so I would buy them socks with anime characters on it so cute and then at one point they were like hey just so you know these socks are terrible quality and they're really uncomfortable so you you don't like i know you're thinking of me but like i i simply won't wear them so if and i was like wait where did you

find this person the world oh my gosh but then i kept forgetting so if someone tells me and then you kept getting forgetting. So if someone tells me. And then you kept getting the socks. Yes. If someone tells me something is bad, like if you tell me you're allergic to shrimp, every time I eat shrimp, I will offer you some. Because I know in my head, you said something about shrimp. You like shrimp? And it's like, no, shrimp kills me.

And with these socks, every time I saw them, I'd be like, oh my God, these are so cute. I'll get them. I mean mean to me because you're not killing them it's not shrimp it's the thought that matters

so it's like come on I think it's nice that you kept doing that but let's listen a little more they said it was sweet they were like

it's sweet and you have good intentions but your execution is very bad oh my gosh oh my gosh I mean I think that is just so nice

that you were even willing to do that. I want to come home to somebody who's cooking me dinner and letting me just relax. And then you want to give me a massage.

Like that's, these are the things I want. These are the things I see for me. I deserve. I like that. I could never, I don't like massages

and I can't imagine a loved one giving me one. No. I don't really like being touched, which is a strange thing. That's fair. Yeah. So massages is like too, it's too much touching. The whole thing is touching.

I used to like be so ticklish. I used to be so ticklish anytime someone touched me, but now I'm like, give me that massage. I deserve it. I work hard. No. Give me a massage. But there is something pretty intimate about it. It's so intimate.

And then I started thinking about why are you touching me not during like a massage like sometimes I'll be talking to a dear friend and they'll like touch me to emphasize a point and like if their hand stays I go well why don't you want your hand back and then I feel like a lot of people are like that stop thinking about it I feel like recently a lot of people are like that like some of my friends are like yeah we like we don't like hugs. I'm like, oh, okay, which is so interesting to me because I feel like growing up, especially in high school, you would walk in and everyone wanted to give you a hug.

And now I'm realizing, I guess people don't want to hug anymore, but it's okay. I'll hug somebody. I actually prefer a hug to a handshake, but it's like, if someone touches my back, I'm like, why? Why are you doing that? What's going on?

I mean, I get that because I've always said that like I feel like kisses are more intimate than sex. And like I don't know what it is about it, but I just feel like there's something so intimate about your mouth and somebody else's mouth swapping some stuff. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. But I think I might just be backwards in my brain. When someone's inside of you, I think there's that's stuff. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. But I think I might just be backwards in my brain. When someone's inside of you, I think there's that's it. I don't know.

They could be inside. You can just disconnect. You could just be like, I'm not even here. But when they're kissing you, like it's like, well, you're so close. I guess. Maybe something is wrong with me. No, I don't think there's anything wrong with you. I'm also weird.

Sometimes I'll kiss somebody and I'll open an eye. Oh, you're weird. I'll be like, is your with me? No, I don't think there's anything wrong with you. I'm also weird. Sometimes I'll kiss somebody and I'll open an eye. Oh, you're weird. And I'll be like, is your eye open? Wait, that reminds me of like when my brother got married. I'm such a bad sister. But like when my brother got married, he and his wife, that was the first time they ever shared a kiss. And it was such an uncomfortable thing to watch them do for the first time and his eyes were fully open and i like wait i gagged but i also laughed like me and my sister could

not stop not to put your brother's business out there but he had never kissed no his wife you know the he's on his super christian stuff oh okay but i was like not even a kiss like i was like and to do it for the first time in front of everybody and your eyes be open, it was honestly one of the funniest things. Also disturbing things.

I'm so sorry. I love you. I hope he doesn't listen to this. He will. And he's going to think back to his magical wedding day and be like, it was weird.

Everyone thought it was weird. It was so weird. It was so weird. I was like, haven't you ever watched movies? Like, close your eyes. And his eyes were big, too. It was very much giving out of pocket, like out of socket.

He was like, I can't believe this is fucking happening. This is magical. Were her eyes open, too? I don't think so, but it was one of the most funniest because, first of all, when you kiss someone, you got to have coordination. Yeah. You got to know, like, is straight forward, head left, head right

like what are we doing? Are we grabbing that head? This is very much giving like an alien it was bad. He's like this is my first day on earth. I don't know how to do this. It was so bad. It was funny though. Lukala, we have to take a break. And we're back. That is funny that you say that a kiss takes coordination.

It does. A lot of people don't know how to kiss and they really think they do. Have you ever had a bad kiss with somebody and then the next time you kiss them it was good? Like better. I don't know if it was good. I also. If the first kiss is bad, i truly feel like it's simply kind of seals the deal because it's like if you don't know how to work your mouth on the mouth i don't know where else you know how to work yeah it kind of feels the deal a little

bit but a first kiss when it's good is such a fucking treat it is it is and i just i don't know i feel like a lot of people do not know how to kiss specifically men and a lot of them really think they do i don't know why so you know i think you know when i kiss someone here and there and they're like wow like that was such a great kiss i'm like i know but like wait you gotta work on telling you yeah people go that was a great kiss yeah is it me maybe i'm joking well no I think like when you share something like a good time or even just a really good kiss, like you feel something. But like, you know, like I feel like when I'm told, I'm like, yeah, like I know. But like you got to work on it because I was a kid and I was kissing the inside of my arm to make sure that I knew what I was doing properly. So like maybe y'all need to do that.

Because a lot of people think they're great at a lot of things that they're not. And it's like, let's take some feedback back so that we can be better for the next person. The next time I kiss someone, I'm going to be like, rate it. One to ten. Did you like it? No, but actually, I think you can feel it when it's a really good kiss. I think you can feel it, too. Oh, wait.

Maybe I have. Can you feel it? Can you feel the love? You can feel it. Can you feel the love? You can feel it. Can you feel the love tonight? The peace the evenings bring. I don't think I knew the other half. Is that the same song?

Yeah. Oh. I wasn't singing. I was singing. Am I even an artist? The Elton John version. Yeah. And not the movie version.

Oh, okay. My bad. My bad. Hi, Elton. Oh, I love Elton John. Great person. We're lucky to be living in a time with all these living legends. I know.

A couple of them. Who's your favorite? Who's still living? Yeah. Oh. Or a dead one. What a way to phrase that. I love Rihanna.

Like, hey, Rih, me, you need to be bestie. But living legend Celine Dion like I'm Canadian so Celine Dion I was at the Grammys the other day

and you went to the Grammys yeah it was my first time and I saw her walk out and I swear I almost fainted I almost cried I literally was like

no freaking way especially because like you know she's been dealing with a lot so I was not expecting to see her walk on stage that was like I gasped I was not expecting to see her walk on stage. That was like, I gasped.

I was like, Celine Dion. Love her. Yeah. Celine Dion. Literally, I've always been like, it's giving my wedding song. Because you love me. That's like, I love her.

I like that song. I drove all night. That's not how it goes. I was like, what song is that? I drove all night. That's not how it goes. I was like, what song is that? I drove all night. That's not how it goes. Do you know what song I'm talking about? No. It's called I Drove All Night.

Jordan, how does it go? I drove all night. Yeah. Wow, that sounds very different. To get to you. I drove all night. That's what I want someone who's into me to do. I'm not trying to do that. I'm not going to hold you, but I need you to give me the, like, I drove all night. That's what I want someone who's into me to do. Like, I'm not trying to do that.

I'm not going to hold you, but I need you to, like, give me the, like, I drove all night to get to you. Like, you were always there for me. Talking to you makes me wonder if I don't think I'm worthy of someone driving all night. Because I'm like, someone driving all night. That's dangerous you better get to sleep you can get to me in the afternoon if it takes that long you should listen to my very first

EP I only have one EP out and it's actually called Worthy and I feel like it was my me coming around to the point where I realized that I was worthy of all the best things and I know in the movies and shows like girls like us they don't get the like the best things and i know in the movies and shows like girls like us they don't get the like the love story and this and that so like getting to the point where you're like no i'm

worthy of this and i'm gonna wake out wait out until i have someone makes me feel like i'm the prize here's the thing i'm fucking tired of waiting and i'm horny and i didn't say you don't give it out to anybody in that period. Well, I don't want to just be fucking no more. I'm like, really, I don't want to have one night stands. I don't want to have to figure out what works with this person. I want a Toyota Corolla.

I want to fuck somebody and know it's reliable and good. Why get a Toyota Corolla? Or a Camry because it's economical, reliable. Let's get a Range Rover. No, those are actually not great. They break down a lot.

They might be luxury. Let's get a Porsche. But people are always like, a Porsche? A Porsche is better than an electric Porsche. I can't remember to plug you in. I just feel like I get what you're saying because I think a lot of people are in that weird in between where you're like, do I, like I don't want to hook up with anybody anymore

and I want like a real life relationship, but I also need to get a little some because we need to get a little wet here and there. And like, it's a really weird in between, but I feel like we're all feeling it as a people right now. So at least there's knowing that. And I mean, love did come to your door. So at least there's that a people right now so at least there's knowing that and i mean you love did come to your door so at least there's that in between right now also it was a black dildo oh my god so

it felt personal like a black person's skin yes and i was like don't scare me a little bit like like real um i don't know what it is but seeing the veins on the real color of anybody's skin i'm like it's you just made this a little too real. Too realistic. Too realistic. It's very realistic. And my assistant, she dropped off coffee. I was doing some press stuff, so she dropped off coffee for me.

And she was like, left it next to the dildo. And I was like, that's, yes. Let me explain why it's just there. It is still in its bag, which says keep away from children, which I thought was pretty funny. They meant the bag because it can choke a a child but i was like okay i just feel like i don't know i don't need morbid or anything but i always think like god willing i get to live a very very long life but i'm like what if you like passed away and your family had to come and clear

out your room yeah all the stuff they would find. Yeah. They find out you're not that good Christian little girl. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. So I have a will, and a lot of it's not legally enforceable because you can't enforce people to do things after you die, but there's soft requests for my best friend. Please let my friends come and clear out the room first.

And one of the things says, here's where my sex toys are. If you could just get rid of them. You're smart. Oh, you know what I should do? I should put gloves in there. Just so they don't have to touch my stuff. Oh, I mean... Yeah, I love that you already have that

in the world. Because I was really thinking about it. I was like, oh my gosh. That would be insane. Yeah, just leave instructions. My best friend knows exactly where the printout of it is um I told her where it is uh I just I'm death doesn't scare me because it happens to it'll happen to us all of us so I just like want to be prepared um but yeah I'm like just you know clean out some stuff my sister doesn't need to see that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's smart. That's smart. Maybe I gotta get the look together. I will say, one of the requests that's not legally enforceable is I would like googly eyes placed on my face. Why? To scare people? Just because it's funny,

and I'd like my body to still be funny when I'm not in it. You said, even in death, I'm gonna be silly. A silly ass bitch. I love it. And I wrote, I think I told my sister this. I was like I'd like my sister to bang the casket

every time someone comes by so my eyes do that. I am screaming. I think I haven't been creative enough. No get creative. Like death happens. Death is sad. But like death could also be a celebration or funny if that person had a sense

of humor yes um so yeah i don't like i want people obviously to be sad about me right but i also want them to be like teehee that dumb bitch she's gone but i need them to be sick to their stomach about me like sick to my stomach fam like that's what i need i need you to be like i can't live like my life will never go on like lou is gone like what is life that's what I need the dramatics and if you're one of those like super criers like I need you to be in front row front row front row super cry super cry but I also remember that it was really funny I would like my partner to like be so overcome with emotion at my funeral and I I've requested that my current partner has to talk about my pussy um but I want

them to be like so overcome with emotion and be like sobbing being like her pussy was so nice and I loved it I am screaming but I'm also confused I don't know why you're scared about anybody in your family finding your dildos and sex toys when clearly you're requesting some wild things. Here's the thing. Never is a thought connected in my brain. Yeah. Never is a thought making sense as a cohesive thing. That makes sense. You are absolutely right. It doesn't matter who cleans it out because you're going to hear all about it at the funeral.

They're about to hear on this like very now. Like tomorrow. In 10 seconds. How do you write a love song? Like I don't think I'm the best love song writer okay i'm still learning i'm i know how to write love songs to myself but writing love songs like i'm like i don't know like do i have to i'm dramatic i think i can make anything be sound super dramatic sure you know and everyone's gonna be like who's that song about if you're saying you've like never

really you know been in a full relationship or like never never been in full-blown love, I'm like, mind your business. Shakespeare wrote about fairies in the woods. I'm sure he's never met a fairy in the woods. Shakespeare wrote about the tempest, which is a storm. I'm sure he never went through that. Romeo and Juliet, were they real? Who knows? Yeah.

It's called an imagination. Yeah. But I actually do write about myself. So everything is about myself. But I might make it a little more dramatic because we trying to sell some records not checking i'm just i'm gonna make it a little more dramatic than it is um and then i'm like i don't know maybe i just don't claim a lot of the situations i've had as love okay maybe it's a me thing and i mean the word love or little distance from each other and it's hard for me to understand what it fully means.

It's some trauma, I guess. Sure. I guess my question's dumber than what you were answering. I literally don't understand how people write songs. Like, how a song, like, okay, that Jessica Simpson song where she's like, I'm on my knees and I want, what is it? Do you know what song I'm singing, Jordan?

I said, what song is that? It's like she wants something to wash over her. It sounds Christian, but not. It's like Jessica Simpson. Yeah, Jessica Simpson. I don't know if it's sexual or Christian, but it's one of those two. Sing more of it. I'm on my knees.

Are you in the right key? No. No. Never. I'm on my knees. I'm on my knees. I'm on my knee. Okay, I'll pick a different song. I think you just like, I think some people write things about their reality.

And some people just like, I don't know, at one point I needed inspiration. During the pandemic, I needed inspiration because I was like, I'm not living a life. I'm literally stuck inside my apartment, my home the whole time. So I would watch movies and shows and like or like write about my friends like relationships like that was always really fun to do but uh usually I just write it about myself and I feel like maybe when I find that deep love I'm gonna be able to write like that legit love song I know how to write about heartbreak because I feel like everyone's been heartbroken even if it wasn't like in a relationship kind of manner.

Yes. Everyone's been heartbroken in some sort of way. Yes. And there's been people that we really liked and they broke our heart too. Mm-hmm. You know? So writing the opposite is so much easier for me than to write love songs. Also because I think a lot of love songs are just so corny and really hard to like, you know, like to perfect a love song is beautiful.

But a lot of times it doesn't happen that way. What's your favorite love song? Do you have one? Oh, I was just talking to someone about, well, one, obviously we love

the Celine Dion Because You Love Me because it's a giving wedding song. But there's a song, do you know who Tamia is? No. Tamia, Tamia. She has a song called Still.

Till this day, like I remember being a kid and listening to it. Like, I'm actually very dramatic. But there's... Anyways. It literally is about... She's with...

Whatever. She's been dating this guy. And he was, like, in the NBA. But she was with him since they were, like, kids. And now they're, like, grown-ups. And they have kids and all this stuff. And, like, their kids are adults. But anyways, the song is like,

Still feels like the first time we met and I kissed and I told you I love you and we still get along like teenagers. I'm like, wait. The fact that that song is still real to them, that you still love this person since you guys were so young to now. I'm like, oh my gosh. I just think it's such a beautiful song.

And who knows who I'm going to end up marrying one of these days. We might know each other for two years, but we're going to play that song as if we knew each other since we were children. Do you think as a... How do you identify? Plus size? Fat? I'm a size two.

What are you talking about? No, I think... Sorry! I'm a plus size girl. I'm a thick girl. I'm a plus size girl. I'm a thick girl. I'm a plus size girl. I just call myself fat. I just.

The way you said oh. I was having that conversation with my friend a couple days ago. And I was like, that's just like, I've never done that. Like, that's, I don't, like, I don't know. I don't identify. I'm a plus size girl. I just feel like fat is something that you have on your body, it's not who you are.

So because of that, it's hard for my brain to think like that. And also just growing up, because it was more of a dis, I'm like, I'm not gonna call myself that, but you're not gonna hurt my feeling if you call me that either, babes, I'm hot. Yeah, I feel like growing up, people would be like, you're fat, and I'd be you call me that either babes like i'm hot yeah i feel like growing up people be like you're fat i'd be like and yeah i love that what else you got you

were a bad bitch early you said you want to talk about your mom not being able to pay her bills yeah like i just it never it didn't bother me the way it bothered other kids right that's why i say did you did you feel like you had to be funny early like you were deflecting from that a little bit sorry i'll lose the interview for me i feel like i've been asked that before yeah and i feel like maybe as i got older i realized that was a way to like be funny so people would like not call me fat but i also really didn't care if you called me fat i love that anything i felt about my body was solely myself being like oh I wish I looked like the other kids but then if it's like someone was like you were fat I'd just be like okay um I think it comes more from having like ADHD and we both share that being in a classroom and a teacher saying something I'm like that

reminds me of or like I can Like, I just was bouncing around, like bouncing off the walls and it just manifested in a funny way, I think. But I'm sure deep down there's like some... Yeah, if I make them laugh first, they won't make fun of me. But also nobody made fun of me because I was like, a good time.

Right. And like my older sister was known as like, Nicole's sister. We love to see a Nicole sister when you're younger. Came before me and they're like, oh, you're her sister. I always feel bad for the people because I remember a couple of those people in high school where like you're the younger person's sibling. I'm like, dang, like you got to step it up. Step it up.

You got to talk a little bit more. Yeah. But as a plus size person, have you found dating to be harder or? Yeah. It's found dating to be harder or? Yeah. Yeah? It's definitely a little tougher. I don't know. I think that a lot of people, I think there's a good amount of people that are into plus size women.

But they're scared to say like out loud. Therefore, they copy. They'll like hook up with-size girls in secret. Yeah. And not in real life. And I'm like, I'm nobody's secret. So until you're yelling outside like, Luke Hallett, I love her.

She's that one. Please don't talk to me. Because it also tells me, I'm actually just embarrassed for you. Imagine being a grown man and you're afraid to like love the person you love just because you want to seem cool for your friends like it's actually absolutely insane to me my brain um yeah it's it's definitely different a little harder to date as an out plus size woman an out plus size woman when i was in the closet it was a little easier right right i was down to

be in the closet like yeah and it's right right I was down to be in the closet like yeah and it's so funny because a lot of the men that want to hook up with plus-sized girls are like hot to the world they're like men that are like muscular musculars are like great quote-unquote bodies as the world would say and um the actual vision of like what a lot of these girls want it's funny because like when I'm on social media like on tiktok sometimes i'll see like a girl that's like plus size and she has a fine ass man and everyone of the comments are like how did he they must have been friends first they were friends she must have gained weight and i'm like no babes like not everyone is into you and i think it it hurts people more i think because some of them might work out super hard and they might do everything they think they can do.

Get some work to become the vision of what they think the world thinks is attractive. And then he goes after that one. But I'm like. But also whenever I see like a bodybuilder type with a plus size girl, I'm like. Obviously. He likes to lift heavy things. It kind of makes sense. Opposites attract.

Opposites attract. But also it's like, how can I get another workout in? Lift this big bitch up and move her around. That's another workout. We love to see it. I don't know why it blows people's minds. I really just wish people would just date who they want to date. Because you're the one that's going to be miserable at the end of the days and i think it has to do with like high school culture and like being middle school and all that kind of stuff

like you carry that into adulthood um but i i'm loving to see like people nowadays are just like people are getting better at it a little bit bit better at it. Just a little. But it's definitely I feel like it's hard to date as a plus size girl in LA. Like in many places but like in LA because LA is definitely the place of like rewarding very small things. Now we're in the

Ozempic era of LA where you could just whittle yourself down to being a little thumbelina if you will. Yeah. yourself down to being a little thumbelina, if you will. Ooh, baby, we got to take a break. And we're back. It is interesting. I feel like I've dated dudes who implied it would be nicer if I were smaller.

Or they're like, oh, I like your personality, but why don't you go to the gym more and I'm like what I once I know I've talked about this so weird years ago but I hooked up with this dude who said just because I work in fitness doesn't mean I don't like don't not like your body and I was like wait what it's just like annoying because you know I think a lot like many a times when men have been attracted to me

they literally be like I love your body like okay do you go up to a size two and like the first thing that rolls out of your mouth is I love your body? No

like I don't need your extra dose to feel confident I'm a bad bitch I know I am like you really don't have to make me feel any better or any different about my size.

And it always made me feel uncomfortable because I felt very sexualized automatically instead of like, I like you. I just want to get to know you. Yeah. I think that's something I had to unlearn because when I was younger, I was like, I'm fine with this body. It is what it is. I'm going to continue eating. So that's the choice I'm fine with this body it is what it is I'm gonna continue eating so that's the choice I'm making but then I would like sexualize

myself to try to make men like me because I was like I like me but I don't think they like what I'm serving and now in my old age I'm now 62 I'm trying to thank you black don't crack but I'm trying to like I'm trying to unlearn. You look great for 62. Thank you, black don't crack.

But I'm trying to like unlearn that to be like, well, you can have the goodies, but just like you got to work a little bit for it. And I shouldn't lead with my sexuality. I should lead with like, I'm a nice person who's in this world looking for love. And that's been fucking hard because I'm also horny. I think I've said this like four times i don't know why i'm going out with a friend tonight and our goal our whole goal is to speak

to at least one man each oh wow i love that for you um but we're not in our hookup area anymore remember no but again your thoughts don't connect they don't connect. They don't connect. Well, just talking to him. I don't have to go home with him. Smart, smart, smart, smart. You know? Yeah. It's just like getting the practice in. Because I dated someone for a little bit.

So I feel a little out of practice flirting. Right. So I'm like, God, I want to meet someone in person. So I got to get the practice in. I got to flirt with them. But then I'm also like, what if we meet in a bar tonight? Yeah. And then he's like, I'd like to see you again next week.

And I'm like, okay. And then I see also like, what if we meet in a bar tonight? Yeah. And then he's like, I'd like to see you again next week. And I'm like, OK. And then I see him again next week. And then maybe he's like, do you want to go to dinner the week after that? And I go, yes. So now that's three weeks in a row. And then we start hanging out during the day. And then we go see movies. And then we're dating.

And then we're married. I'm screaming. Someone told me recently that I'm like a really good flirt. Are you? I don't know what that means. I think I smile a lot. OK. I'm flirting with you okay let's do it um hi how are you I'm good how are you wait let me start over yeah who are you trying to be Urkel what's happening I instantly got afraid okay hi hey do you come here often? Here and there. How about you? Oh my goodness. Today's my first day.

I'm bad at this. You're scaring me. You should, I think you have to loosen up a little bit. Do you want to try this Cosmo? Yes. I'm trying to make eye contact with you. Why are you looking away? Because you're, this is overwhelming.

Why? And you are really good at this. Am I? Yes. Oh my God. Wait, wait. let me try again i can be cool you don't have to be cool actually because i feel like you i feel like there's somebody for everybody and like if you're trying to be the cool thing i feel like that's not gonna work out you just be yourself but also just like wink a little bit twinkle a little Wow, you just said I wasn't cool. No.

No. I'm not cool either. No, I'm so far from cool. I'm a fun person. I'm not a cool person. I'm a good time. I'm not cool. Okay. Hi.

Hey. Do you come here a lot? Here and there. How about you? Actually, this is my first time I've been here. Oh. Well, I'm hoping I get to see you more. Oh my goodness.

I like that. Would you like get to see you more. Oh my goodness. That, I like that. Would you like me to give you a drink? The Cosmo here are really good. Or, you give me more sex on the beach.

Would you like one? Oh my goodness, I think I would like a sex on the beach. Okay, I got you. Oh, wow.

You're going to pay for my drink? See, I, yes, as long as we make this our beach, no,

I'm joking, I'm joking. You're, I can't, isn't she good at that? I'm, I... Yes. As long as we make this our beach. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. You're... I can't... Isn't she good at that? I'm... I try. Like, you are making me bashful.

And I was like, we're in a recording studio. Oh, I love that. There's no threat of going home with you. Like, I was like, oh my... I just... I would love a drink. Sometimes you just have to twinkle the eyes a little bit. You know, like, when you see someone across the room.

Actually, just the other day, like when I was at the Grammy parties. Yeah, you're doing it well. I saw this guy across the room and then I got up to eat because they don't really be giving you no food at the Grammys. They really don't. So I got up to grab some like thing to eat really quickly. And he was like, didn't you see me like looking at you from across the room? I was like, yeah. But why didn't you come up to me?

Like, I just I'm confused. Like like i'm not coming up to you like you better be on your man league for me like you know so i'm like why didn't you like come up to me like i don't get it he's like we're here now need whatever you you've been drinking you know what i'm really good at like setting people up like i've always always been like, I'm great at it. And the people I set up stay together for, if not forever, for a long time. I'm going to think about my Rolodex. I can't set myself up though. But everybody else, everybody else, like I feel like in another life, I was loose cupid. Maybe you were.

And I had a psychic tell me in another life, I was a princess. And I was like, yay! A giz princess. And I i was like people waiting on me but i see it for myself yeah okay so i'm looking for someone uh with a little bit of money a job no dream not a job okay okay a career um i want them to be living their dream yes um i would prefer someone tall but I can do a short king what's tall? I think I'm really tall

how tall are you? turns out 5'5 but girl bye I really was waiting for you to say something crazy I'm 5'5 I thought I was 5'7 for a really long time me too I think we just have big dick energy I think so too I genuinely always thought I was tall'7 for a really long time. Me too. I think we just have big dick energy.

I think so too. I genuinely always thought I was tall. And I went to the doctors and he's like, no, you're like 5'5. Like you're in three quarters. My best friend is 5'7. And in pictures, I'm always shorter than her. And I was like, you're lying about your height. You're six foot.

And she was like, no. It's always the shorties. My friend's a good 5'2. And she tells me when she's 5'9. I'm like like babe like it's not giving that at all at all relax that's me but yeah five five so like to me i'm like i want someone who's six five uh yeah but like anything over like five ten is tall i guess oh that's cute i don't know but i i want someone who's like six foot but people be lying all the time so they all lie i don't know. But I want someone who's like six foot, but people be lying all the time. They all lie. I don't know what six foot actually is. Oh my gosh.

One time I went on a date with this guy from the online world and it very much said like six feet or six two or whatever. And I showed up and I was like, this person is my height. And I'm just confused because did you not think I was ever going to find out? Like, did you not think about like the process about when we meet? Uh-huh. Insane. Maybe he thought you ever going to find out? Like, did you not think about, like, the process about when we meet? Uh-huh. Insane. Maybe he thought you were going to be shorter,

and then he was like, well, I'll just automatically be taller, and I'll be fine. Is that the worst date you've been on? Oh, that was really bad. Actually, it was really bad. And he kept trying to touch my hand, and I was like, uh, uh, uh, uh. Like, I just, and it's not because he was short.

I just think it's weird that you would say that and have such a big gap. Was he trying to hold your hand across the street? Yeah. He was like, I need, I need, I need your hand. I just like, I don't know why people like lie about that. I'm just very confused. I don't know why people lie in general. I think a lot of girls would be okay with dating like short kings.

Like as long as you weren't lying. Yeah. I don't know about me, but I think a lot of girls would be okay like short kings like as long as you're lying yeah I don't know about me but I think a lot of girls would be okay dating shit you know I'm a thicker girl so like I want to feel a little protected in certain ways

so I think that's why I like men that are taller but yeah what's the worst date that you've been on oh that was a bad one honestly because i remember like after like the dinner and stuff he was like oh do you want to go back and watch a movie and like he meant like at his house like no but there was this one time it's the only time that's ever happened to me where i went on the date with this

guy in new york and he was just like so on me whatever we get on this we get to on the date with this guy in New York and he was just like so on me, whatever. We get on this, we get to like the date and like I think like halfway through, he was like to the rater like, oh yeah, it's gonna be like a separate bill. And like, I don't think I realized he had said that. And then like at the end of it, like it really was separate.

And to me, like, to me it was just more, to me it was more funny than anything because that had never like happened to me. But to me it was more hilarious because afterwards he, like, to me, it was just more to me, it was more funny than anything because I had never like happened to me. But to me, it was more hilarious because afterwards he was like, let's do this. Let's do that. And he and he like text me like, oh, I can't wait to see you again. And I was thinking like, what in your mind ever made you think we were ever going to have eye contact, any messages or anything? I'm so sorry.

Like, maybe I'm a little old school in that way. But like, if you're taking me out, you are you are taking me out like I am not lifting a finger I'm not the girl to fake it to you and be like like when it comes and then like you you like go and pretend that you're no I'm gonna stand there still face I'm not gonna move I pretend and I wait for them to go oh I got it and I go do you okay no like I and I know some men say like they think it's nice if like you at least like offer I'm not offering like because what happens when they're like okay like here you got it like

no I'm not I'm so sorry I'm not gonna lie to you at all you gotta make me feel like you have to be chivalrous but what if you ask them on a date I would never ask someone on a date I'm sorry really I wouldn't I don't think I would never ask someone on a date I'm sorry really? I wouldn't I don't think I would would you ever

propose are you the type I was gonna say are you the type of girl to get on your knees and propose to somebody that's what I was gonna ask you never

like no my African roots I don't know the answers will come and be my ass like absolutely not no I don't think I would ever

propose to someone because I don't necessarily want to get married. Yeah. But I feel like I've asked people out on dates. You have? So did you pay? What is that life like? No. Wait, I'm trying to think.

I don't think. Honestly, I think to all my sisters that do it, you know, you guys are the strongest warriors. I'm happy you do it so I don't have to but I just like I don't know like I think like for me I'm in control of a lot actually I don't know how to say it I'm like

a boss in what I do like for music so like I like the idea of like maybe you are the boss when we're at home I get that. I think it's kind of hot. That's like when businessmen like dominatrixes because they're in the boardroom as the boss and then a lady steps on them.

Like I'm manifesting a get ready, we're going out. Car's coming at 730. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. I think it's kind of sexy. I like that. I think it's kind of sexy. I like that in theory. Oh, yeah. You can only get that kind of treatment from someone you're attracted to because anyone else is like, who are you talking to?

Anyone else is very much like, you better stop. Well, I just like, I don't think I've ever dated anyone who's like, I've planned a thing. We're doing this at this time. Wear this. I feel like everyone I've ever dated is like, you want to go out or do you want to go I don't like that and it's hard because I um like it's hard because like I can say like oh these are some things I like and then you pick it out but to like I just need to take charge a little bit if you're asking me on a date fair like that I don't know to me it'd be like then that means you might not know how to take charge in any other way and I would like those are like what I relate to okay so we have like

reached the end um I do ask all of my guests this I've only missed it maybe three or four times but would you date me oh I would you know I like someone who's fun I think you're beautiful I like someone who gives a little funniness excitement but also

that is on their business because some people are like some people I've like talked to are too

they're trying to be funny too much and it's like I need you to work people nowadays just don't want to work enough

I need you to make some money so we can survive so you're on your shit you're beautiful and I don't know to work enough. I need you to make some money so we can survive. So you're on your shit. You're beautiful. And I don't know. Let's see where this goes. Yes.

Thank you. Do you have anything you want to promote? I have a new song. It's out. It's called Nothing But Love. You know, a lot of times when you break up with somebody, you like hate. I think it's easier to say you hate somebody. It's like so much easier.

And if you did hate somebody, it's easier to say you hate somebody it's like so much easier and if you did hate somebody it's easier to move on um but this song is about being like I still have nothing but love for you and it's very heartbreaking and stream it blue color you're like stream it feel bad yes but then once you're once you're over the heartbreak you can go listen to hotter now or pretty girl era and feel really hot about yourself. I love that. I will say this. Whenever people hate their exes, it really makes me sad because I'm like, how did you love someone that you now hate? You hate them?

Like, it got so bad that now you hate them? I never want that. I always like, it's a weird, I don't know, I think it's such a weird emotion. I think, I don't know if a lot of them really hate people. I think they just hate them because they can't have them. So it's easier to say that you hate that person. But I don't know.

If you share something so intimate with someone, how could you just one day be like, I hate you. You are nothing to me or you are dead to me. That being said, I'm the best at the block button. So I don't know what I'm talking about. Not me. Everyone I've ever dated dated there's an open door really oh if you want to just check in see how I see how I'm doing I'll let you know I'm

gonna pray for you because the standards are gonna get higher the right person is gonna come to you and love your weirdness and the body and what you bring I mean I'm kidding my exes it's not an open door most of them are married and by exes I mean people I dated for a couple months. You said most of them are married? Uh-huh. Wait, so is it really closed or is it only closed because they're married? Well, I mean, now I've had so much distance with a lot of people I've dated. And truly, I've only dated someone for like a couple of months at a time.

Same. Now that there's distance, I'm like, oh, yeah, this person really was not a good fit for me because of x y and z this person was a bad fit because of this so like I understand why they weren't a bad fit but like in the moment of breaking up or like not seeing each other I was like but why I'm curious I was curious have you ever asked an ex like why didn't it work out no because i know do you know what i mean i'm like 99 sure i know really yes because sometimes i feel like people sell you like on the dream and then one day they just poof well i think it's when they sell you on the dream and they poof it was like i actually didn't like you like you i liked the idea of you i liked the attention you were giving me, and then I found someone

I clicked with better, or I'm moving on to somebody else that is giving me attention and it feels newer or fresh. So I never think it's like I did something because it's not technically about me. You are the main character in your own story, so it might have been something I did that made you feel a certain type of way. But that feeling has nothing to do with me.

So I usually chalk it up to like, we just we weren't a good match. And you just didn't want to fuck with me anymore. Which is like, you know, that's your prerogative. That does make sense. I think it's just hard to find genuine people. It is. Especially being like a businesswoman in these types of industries and a crazy schedule. Yeah, I do have like a very shitty schedule.

Yeah, all those things like back and forth. I think we live in a world where a lot of times women wait out for men, but men are not used to waiting out for women. No. That lead these types of lives because I think some of them feel a little emasculated. I don't know. I don't know what it is, but... And a little intimidated maybe.

I don't know if that's what I know. All I know is bae's coming because I deserve and you deserve. Yes, 2024. We're gonna get our birds. If you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me, you can rate it, you can like it, you can subscribe. Leave me a review on Apple Podcasts.

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