Why Won't You Date Me? with Nicole Byer - Throwing Shade (w/ Bianca Del Rio)

Episode Date: January 14, 2022

Drag queen icon Bianca Del Rio (winner of Drag Race S6) joins Nicole to chat about the challenges of finding a partner who fits with your lifestyle, the smart system behind her meet-and-greets, gettin...g reported on Grindr, shares secrets behind her impeccable wig lines, and throws lots of shade in between. It's a real good time - get into it! For more drag queen interviews, check out our episode playlist on Spotify:  bit.ly/wwydmdrag Check out our best episodes of 2021!  Listen at teamcoco.com/dateme2021 Black Lives Matter! Click here for a list of over 100 different ways you can support racial justice.   Follow Nicole Byer: Tour Dates: linktr.ee/nicolebyerwastakenTwitter: @nicolebyerInstagram: @nicolebyerNew Merch Store! podswag.com/datemeNicole's book: indiebound.org/book/9781524850746

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Why won't you date me? Please tell me why! Baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me? A podcast where me, Nicole Byer, tries to figure out how I'm still single, even though you could slap my pussy and say, Ew, I hate it.
Starting point is 00:00:35 My guest today is a drag queen, comedian, actor, and costume designer. She was crowned winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 6. You better believe it's fucking Bianca Del Rio. Hello, how are you? I am fabulous. Bianca, thank you so much for taking the time to do this. You have a show tonight, a show. Well, this is airing in January. We are recording this in November. Let's keep it real with the children. You're a busy fucking lady. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:01:09 Listen, I say this. You have to get out and hustle. And the biggest hustle is I can't complain. I've been home for a year and a half with this pandemic bullshit. So as soon as they said, let's get on the road, I packed my drag and said, fuck it. Let's go and let's make it happen. So I've been fortunate enough to start the tour in September and it lasted until November in America.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And I think it was something like 68 dates. And now we are, or 68 days. And I can't remember how many shows it was in between there. And, you know, then I'm going into a musical in Los Angeles that will be here in January. Wait, what is this musical? Well, I was doing this musical. I did it like two and a half years ago called Everybody's Talking About Jamie on the West End.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And I had two stints in it. I did an eight-week run and I enjoyed it so much I went back and did a three-week run on the West End and then they offered me the tour, which I'm doing, actually, leaving on Thursday for, to tour the UK and then we have a five-week sit-down here in Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:02:06 at the Amundsen Theater. So I'm quite excited. My God, she's fucking busy. Well, you know what? The thing is, you don't get in drag to not hustle. You know, these bitches that put on a wig and sit home and complain. And you know what it's like.
Starting point is 00:02:19 You've got 42 shows going on. You've got to take it while it's in front of you. I mean, you're right. Because I'm always like, what if people stop wanting it? I better fucking do everything now. Exactly. And also, if you're enjoying it. I enjoy a busy schedule.
Starting point is 00:02:33 I like a tight schedule. I don't want anybody to feel sorry for me. I'm grateful for the opportunities. But, you know, the day-to-day back and forth, especially being on the road, you know, and schlepping from one city to the next by bus is not the most glamorous but it's better than going on an airplane it's better going through security so you can hit more dates and do more cities by being on the bus so you know you pick your battles with this and so i've been very lucky you know okay so this bus yeah are there there's beds obviously on this i've never been on a tour bus the only tour bus i like know of is selena's tour bus in the movie selena okay well i would say what's great about it is there's about 12
Starting point is 00:03:11 bunks that exist for everyone else but in the very back i have my own room which is fancy so you get your it's you know you set your air condition in your little cabin uh which is lovely back there and what's great is you know you know it works. You kind of get to the city around noon. You get into the venue. You set up all of your shit. You get into drag. I have a meet and greet at 5.30 that I hug 150 people before the show. And then they open the doors at 7.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Everyone then sits down. The show starts at 8. You finish the show by 11. You get out of drag. You put on your pajamas. You get back on the bus. You pass out with Mexican Xanax. and you wake up in the next city so that's the magic of the bus you know what i mean that's the magic wait a minute i cannot believe you do a meet and greet before the show yes i do
Starting point is 00:03:58 i do that well mainly because this is this is my system and if you if you experience this you'll understand why is that first of all, in drag, I look fresher at 5.30 than I would after the show. And also, people are still scared of me then. They're not wasted yet. They're not drunk yet. They're still a little fearful. And usually, the 150
Starting point is 00:04:18 to 200 people that come through meet and greet are the people that are in the first 20 rows. So even if the whole show goes to shit, I know I've got those 20 rows that I've met that I can use as part of the show. You know, whether I know who's the crazy one, I know who's the angry one. I know who's the couple. I know who brought their child. So all of that works to my advantage because that's usually all I see is the first 20 rows. So it's a win-win. This strategery. It's also like this great warmup act. You know,
Starting point is 00:04:48 you get to see the people that really like you, you get some time to spend with them. And you know, after the show, you're a sweaty mess. They're going to be drunk. Then, you know, you're waiting to get out of drag, your feet are hurting. So they catch me at a better time. And then when I'm done with the show, I'm out of that shit and on the bus. So it's a win-win for me. This I love. Quick question. Do you wear heels while you perform? Yes. I'm not lazy.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes. I mean, what am I going to wear? Some orthopedic drag shoe? I would be in Crocs under the gown. Let's get real. I would not. I can't wear heels. I couldn't get it.
Starting point is 00:05:23 What's the deal here? I mean, I think, I guess with drag, it's just the i couldn't get it you know what's the deal here like i mean i think i guess with drag it's just the way that it starts you know is that you are the big deal is you get your heels you get your corset you get your wig and i that's always been a huge part of it and so i'm short i'm i think i'm like five eight i'm short by drag standards uh some of the ones you know are monsters yes huge i'm about a five eight so a heel helps you know and then i get a big enough wig to kind of balance it out.
Starting point is 00:05:46 But I don't feel complete unless I have heels on and earrings. Those are my two things. A wig is for me. I don't like performing without a wig. Well, that too. I'm wigless today because she's in the home.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But yeah, I don't feel complete unless I'm like, the wig is on, the lashes are on, and she's here to do it you know and it's also interesting to me how I've seen queens it's the earrings that kill me because they spend so much time on their face they have a wig and they have
Starting point is 00:06:17 you know nails on and bracelets on a necklace and I go why stop with no earrings nobody is pretty enough not to have a fucking earring on every time I will text a bitch. If I see them on Instagram, I text them, where's your earrings? Where's your earrings? I fucking love that.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I'd love to think there's a queen out there who's like getting ready, looks in the mirror one last time. They're like, Bianca's going to get me. I got to put on some earrings. I got to put on some earrings. You need to, bitch. Nobody is pretty enough not to have them. I'm telling you. This is a boring question but how
Starting point is 00:06:45 did you get into drag i know that you were a costumer yeah it well it started kind of um through costumes is that when i started you know acting so to speak uh but there was a show this is brilliant musical called a pageant that they were doing and i was costuming the show and doing wigs and makeup for the show and they needed somebody to play an extra part a show um and it was this weird part that covered a costume change so i kind of went into the show and doing wigs and makeup for the show. They needed somebody to play an extra part of the show. And it was this weird part that covered a costume change. So I kind of went into the show just thinking I was gonna fill in. And then it kind of snowballed into 26 years
Starting point is 00:07:14 now. Well, January. It'll be 26 years of doing drag. So it's this crazy ride that I didn't plan or didn't think would happen, but it definitely started through theater, which is the way to go, you know? 26 years? I know, I'm old.
Starting point is 00:07:28 She's older than she looks. Well, I got a good doctor, yeah. I mean, give me the fucking number. Your skin is incredible. I'll hook you up. No, the thing was, you know, I don't think it was ever, you know, back then, drag was, you couldn't find it anywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:42 It was either in a gay bar or a small cabaret space or theater, you know back then drag was you couldn't find it anywhere it was either in a gay bar or a small cabaret space or theater you know um so it wasn't as celebrated as it was now we didn't have social media obviously or drag race or you know there was rue on television with her vh1 talk show at the time and stuff but that was probably the biggest untouchable moment you're like oh i'll never get there that's never gonna happen for me Those opportunities don't exist. I mean, I was doing drag when the gays didn't even like drag. You know what I mean? Like, you know, the fags at the bar were too butch for drag queens. So that was a different number. There were bars I couldn't get into if I was in drag because they
Starting point is 00:08:18 were men's. Yeah, there were men's bars. Yeah. We're all about men here. We're not going to have you in drag. And now those same faggots are just running out of the bar to get a fucking selfie. So, you know, that's our community. I think, I just think it's so weird to be like,
Starting point is 00:08:36 I mean, I guess it happens with like black people too. When you're like an other in society to like other, the others, others. Yes. Like, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Be like, okay, so we're, you know, the other group, but then there's like a be like okay so we're you know the other group but then there's like a weird set of others that we don't fuck with yes just like why why are we all why do that it's truly insane well you know the gays are the worst but that's usually how they operate i mean it's usually it's the game is that we want acceptance but you can't come in and that's what it was that's what it was. That's what it was early on. It was very segregated on that level. And, you know, lots of people weren't interested in drag queens. I mean, because if you did drag, it's too feminine and we're not interested in dating you. But now
Starting point is 00:09:14 it's changed the game, you know, with drag race. And also people never saw us out of drag. No one really cared, you know? So now that drag is in people's living rooms and they see you as a person or see you as an actor or see you as a performer, it's a different game, you know? Yes. Bianca, let me ask. Yes. Are you single? Are you in a relationship? I am single. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I had two long-term relationships that were, you know, choices I had made prior to Drag Race. Okay. The ones I had after Drag Race have not turned out so well. And, you know, it's that weird thing now where I'm 46 and everybody's younger than me as it is. So it's a weird dynamic because you want to meet somebody that's aware of what you do for a living, but you also don't want to date a fan. So it is that weird place. And where do you meet people you know it's like like friends of mine are always saying you need a doctor that you know yeah i can't even get in a fucking appointment
Starting point is 00:10:08 with my insurance how the fuck am i gonna get to date a doctor if i can't even get seen by one so i was trying to do uh a matchmaker and i filled out this whole thing and then two years later they were like hey nicole are you still interested and i was like no no two years past you're not even gonna acknowledge that the two years passed you're just like hey yeah you've been waiting for this and i'm like yeah i've been waiting but not for you goodbye no it just seems so it also just seems so weird to me i don't know even like the grinder situation i i was like, okay, well, let me see what the kids are doing on Grindr, you know, if this is going to work.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But then I was reported for not being me. Someone didn't believe that it was me that they thought. And I'm like, well, then that's just too much bullshit. So it's one more thing to scroll through. And, you know, I find, and I'm a firm believer, I don't know if this is you, Nicole, but I think, I believe you can't have it all. You know what I mean? So I'm a firm believer with, you know, I'm best when I'm single because I'm focusing on what I can control, which is, you know, my career and my schedule and my life. That if I get somebody in there, I get too wrapped up. See, I'm the giver. And then I start, you know, making sure some bitch is okay. And I'm daddy Warbucks. And you know, little Annie
Starting point is 00:11:24 ain't worth it. She's still a little bitch. So i've had to come to terms with that i had to come to terms with that but maybe maybe it's not for me you know what i mean i can go be a hoe but i don't need to be attached you know interesting yeah i don't so the thing i worry about is if I were to be in a relationship and I was happy, I'm like, what would I talk about on stage? Agreed. How do you make happiness funny? No, in exact happiness is not funny. And also, some of us are not meant to be happy. That's what gives us the gift of being.
Starting point is 00:12:00 No, I'm serious. I mean, being a miserable cunt is a gift, I do believe. At least we're using the proper outlet. You know, we're not that miserable cunt that's sitting in a cubicle. We're a miserable cunt on radio or on television. On TV, on the stage, being like, we're all miserable, right? And everyone's like, yes, I spent money to hear you be miserable. Here you be miserable. Agreed. Agreed. So I think that's what's important.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I think at least we have something, you know? It's better than not. It's better than the alternative. And to be honest, you know, with gay relationships in particular, especially with social media, I know several people, I'm not going to name names, but on social media that will post a happy photo of a queen with a little boyfriend and they're eating a cupcake and they're just happy as can be. And I know good and goddamn well that they're fucking other people and they're lying to each other. So it's really hard to, I guess, find that genuine aspect of it. I don't believe any relationship I see because I can read between the lines. So I don't know if someone would bring me happiness. I wouldn't mind somebody coming along to enjoy the ride because I get some amazing experiences. But it's been very difficult finding that person.
Starting point is 00:13:11 It really has. Yeah. I don't know where that person lies. Like, who's just like easy breezy, easy to be around, happy for you at all times, fucks you, takes you out to dinner. Yeah. Isn't annoying. Is happy with you going out of town for weeks at a time. Yeah. Chill with your success. Has their own shit going.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Like, where is that person? It's never the person I attract. I can tell you that. It's never. And that's, that's been the crazy thing. And, and if you ask somebody of that,
Starting point is 00:13:41 or, or if you, you know, someone always says, Oh, I've got this friend that loves you. And I go, well, what does that mean? Does that mean, oh, they loved this idea of you on Drag Race, or they love you as a drag queen?
Starting point is 00:13:52 And then you've got to break that shit down because you're dealing with different personalities. But it's tricky. It's tricky. And I know several queens that date fans, you know, that get off on that, you know, that will, you know, have sex and scream hallelujah. And I don't, that's not my kind of thing. thing you know what i mean that's not my kind of thing no yeah it's not my type of thing either i just i guess it's because i'm like i want to be loved and i want someone who's just like in it for the long term because i'm like a fan there's nothing more unattractive or unappealing than like fucking
Starting point is 00:14:26 someone rolling over and they're just like so what's it like to do this and this and this and you're like it's my fucking job it's a job it's exactly it's very hard it's it's it's a it's a very thin line to find somebody that's complimentary and understands it and appreciates it to someone that is a crazy fan. And that's the area that gets, that gets really gray. And I don't mind people being fascinated or interested in, I'll, I'll give anybody a chance. I mean, I'm not picky. So it's one of those things where I'm like, let's see, you know what I mean? I don't have a type so to speak, so I don't cut people off, but overall it's never really kind of worked out, you know, the maturity level of understanding you know we need to find dolly parton's husband you know what i mean that's
Starting point is 00:15:09 the kind of husband we need this man lives in the shadows yeah loves that big tittied blonde bitch has nothing to say talks to her at home yep i love it i and she's always like and he great and it's like we don't know we don't we't have a fucking clue. And that's how it should be. How lucky. I love that. If anybody deserves it, it's Dolly. You know what I mean? So, you know, good for her. But that's what I think we need to find. I need to find somebody
Starting point is 00:15:36 with no social media, somebody who, uh, that becomes a phantom person that can live around and entertain me when I need it, you know? Yes, that's what I want. Someone who's just like, who could just giggle with me and then make me giggle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And then, you know, I just, yeah, I have this like idea in my head and I'm like, where art thou? Yes. Well,
Starting point is 00:15:58 I mean, have you, besides this one dating app, is that, I mean, do you date regularly? Do you meet people that you're like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:16:03 I'm going to go out and hang out with them. So since, uh, since she became a pfizer princess she's been dating okay okay now what is a date what does a date mean to you is a date like hooking up or is a date like going to dinner schmoozing and we'll see what happens so usually no dinner okay are you i gotta wait for the food i gotta figure out a conversation with you we gotta have a drink and then the server's like i fucked up your order and we gotta wait longer and then the service is bad and then i'm there for two and a half hours and you told me nothing interesting okay we're gonna go for a drink got it and i'm gonna tell you i have from six to eight because i have something after i'm meeting friends for dinner um and then if it's going well i'm like actually i'm gonna cancel dinner because there was no dinner right right right nobody's waiting
Starting point is 00:16:57 on me right right right right right either have another drink and then like try to fuck or if i'm like this person seems like they're trying to respect me, even though I haven't asked. I will not try to fuck them and then, you know, try to fuck on the second date. Got it. So that's what I try to do. But dinner, no, that's like an investment. Well, I do think that's an investment. And also dinner is tricky with gays, you know, because of the whole bottoming thing.
Starting point is 00:17:23 So they've got to be careful. I'm not a bottom, so I don't worry about such things, but when they come, you know, you don't pick a Mexican restaurant. If you, unless you know, it's going nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. Because I always say when a bottom says it's not a good night, trust them. You hear me? Trust them, bitch. Trust them. But I think it's, um, I think that's good though. I mean, at least that you're out there and you got to kind of see the people. The trick with it is, for me, with the Grindr situation, I thought by traveling, I'm like, ooh, those nights that I'm in a hotel, this would be fun. But then also with the schedule, the nights that I'm off, I'm like, I don't even want to fucking have anybody breathing near me. You know, I'm just so, you know, so over it that my idea is like, wouldn't it be great? But like you said, if you could cut out the talking and the drinking and all that, let's just get to it and get out. That's rare.
Starting point is 00:18:24 and they'd be like okay let's do it and you're like great yeah but now that i've gotten older and i'm dating older dudes i feel like they're like i want to get to know you and i'm like for what i'm driving i'm coming through tacoma i'm not coming back here for another year and a half we're never gonna see each other again why but don't you find them that's also it's a little tricky now since the pandemic everybody is just like really fucking emotional and everybody's got this attachment. I've missed you. I just enjoy your company. No, bitch, suck my dick and let's go. Like that's that's what you want. You know what I mean? I don't need friendship. I don't need someone else to add on Instagram. You know, look, let's just, just, yeah. Fully agree. I fucked somebody after one of my shows recently. Okay. And we like sat in the hotel room for so long, just talking and I didn't know how to be like, oh my God, don't you want to go home and go to sleep?
Starting point is 00:19:22 I have to wake up early and get on a flight. But like, I've already invested 22 minutes yeah so yeah but the crazy thing is though that you you know you've been on stage talking all night to begin with and then you gotta fucking entertain this bitch after the show it's like look if you if you know i did a show and you liked it then fucking reward me with dessert and then just get the fuck out. Like, like, give me a little taste and go be a gracious bitch and take it like a hoe and get the fuck like that. That's what I would want to have happen. Yeah, that's exactly what I want. Real quick. We got to take a break. Sure. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Bianca, I gotta know, how did you get into comedy? Have you always just, you've been funny. You're a funny person. It varies. You know, it's one of those things where with drag, once I started doing drag, I was, you know, doing lip sync and shit like everybody else does. Because that's what we all did in the 90s. And what ended up happening was the host of the show was out. And at that time nobody wanted
Starting point is 00:20:26 to talk like no one wanted to be in front of the audience because remember this is new orleans 1996 uh so 2 a.m on a wednesday night uh because we're a party town bitch um the thing was i was basically filling in for a host uh because she was out and I basically had to talk while drunk people drank more and covered costume changes. So my hate and disdain for an audience is kind of, that's where it began. That's where the bitterness started. And I guess that's where it developed. You know, you find a set of skills when you're faced with a situation. So it wasn't like, let me tell you a joke. It was more of insult improvisational moments that would happen because I'm just the clown at the circus in this bar at 2 a.m. doing a show. And through that is how it all snowballed.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And then obviously once Drag Race happened, which was much later in my life, I was 37. Well, I was 37 when we started filming, 38 when I finished filming. In case somebody is going to try to fact check me on this bullshit, because they love to do that. Oh, you know people will tweet and be like, actually? Yeah, uh-huh. So, um, when Strag Race happened, I was
Starting point is 00:21:35 ready to hang up drag, just in general. I thought, you know, I'll quit at 40. It's been a long run. I've been sick of doing bars. You don't have that point in your life gets where you're like, I can't do this anymore. You know, the struggle is real. And working all day and doing shows at night. And sometimes you'd have a show. Sometimes you get fired.
Starting point is 00:21:51 You know, it was the game. Then I said, let me try Drag Race. You know, I've seen some other untalented friends of mine find success. You know, Manila and Jiggly. And I thought, well, let me take a chance. So I went ahead and did it. And with that, I knew there was already a formula in place for Drag Race at that time. Everybody was doing music videos or albums or all of that. And we all had the same manager. And I told the
Starting point is 00:22:16 manager, no, I don't want to do an album. I don't want to say I want to tour. I want to do my own show. And so literally that May when I won through October, I traveled and hit every bar there was against his wishes. I said, I'm going every fucking place I could possibly go. And I went and ran around and ran around. And by October, I had my first show at the Gramercy in New York City. And that's where it snowballed. So now I'm on my fifth solo tour that I'm able to do globally, which is wild.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So that was always my plan. You know, I said, if music videos made money, I'd have made 12, bitch. So the trick was to get on the road and to go to go to the people. So that's kind of how the game started, you know, and that's why I've always stayed in that lane. I don't get to do much television or much film work because of the fact that I'm never available because I'm on the road, you know, and I choose to be on the road, you know? I mean, what a dream, though. But your journey is very much that of like a stand up where it's like you do clubs, you do five shows a weekend to people who in some towns are just there to see whatever comedian on the weekend. And you're like, oh, you don't like me and I'm interrupting your dinner correct until you get to do like theaters
Starting point is 00:23:25 like that's the dream like just to do a weekend of shows at a theater and girl i mean the insanity of it for me in general was just you know i have this amazing company that i work with with aeg who produces things and this head of comedy i was touring solo you know kind of mom and pop in it for the first tour and i was in a lot of theaters that were owned by aeg and the head of comedy is like who is this faggot and why is he selling out and let's talk to him so they made me a great offer which is how i've been able to get to do carnegie hall which is how i've been able to get to do um uh what the hell was the one in wembley arena uh in um uh in the uk which is 12 000 people which is 12,000 people, which is insane. It's insane. So it's just been this amazing and I hate the word journey,
Starting point is 00:24:11 but it's been this, this, this, this journey that I realized that the trick is to go out to the people. And that's what I enjoy doing, especially after this past year and a half, you know, with COVID you're like, girl, I'm happy to see anything, you know? But I mean, what a you're like, girl, I'm happy to see anything, you know? But I mean, what a testament to like your comedy,
Starting point is 00:24:30 your personality, your persona, because it's like, this is your fifth tour. So like you're hitting, like you're revisiting spots and people are still coming out. Like, I'm sure people have seen you like five, 10 times.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah. Probably travel cities to come see you. So I think that's like, so fucking i saw you at um uh drive and drag at the rose bowl oh god yes you were so effortlessly funny and like you're so fun to watch and then a queen got on stage and was saying their thoughts about the vaccine. And you were so funny because I watched a switch in your brain go, hmm, people have phones, people record things. Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to just let this person say what they want to say.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And when they're done, I'll continue the show. And I was like, whoo! Well, it's a tricky game now because as a comedian, don't you know this? There's there's no such thing as context anymore. Correct. You say something and and and all of a sudden the punch line is what they post with no context about where it began or if it's a running joke or if it's a thought. And here come these people that already fucking hate you that go. You know, and that's that's what I avoid.
Starting point is 00:25:49 That's why tweeting can be tricky. We talked about that once before. It's like, if you tweet the wrong thing or without context, they come after you. Now, when I'm on stage, the people know I'm a nasty bitch. The people pay to see a nasty bitch and I got to deliver being a nasty bitch. But, but, but in that world, it does get very tricky. So sometimes you just have to bite your tongue and let it ride, let the wave pass. And then you just do what you're hired to do. But when I do my solo show, no one's safe.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I don't give two fucks. I mean, Jiggly Cagente came to see me the other day and she said, girl, they're going to put you in jail. So I'm excited. I take that as a compliment. I love Jiggly. So, girl, they're going to put you in jail so i'm excited i take that as a compliment i love jiggly so girl they're gonna put you in jail they're gonna put you in jail yeah uh like what do you have any plans for anything else or is live shows what you want to do for well the the the game is uh and and you know we i think we're all in a place of what's going on during the pandemic, that I knew I had a tour starting. And so we've done America now. And as I said, I'm going into the musical and back into the musical because it's Latin America. Then it's all over the UK and Europe. And then it's all over Australia. So I will continue my tour into September of 2022. So I'm back on the road through that time.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So I'm, I'm just happy to have a schedule. I really haven't thought it through. And, and immediately it was just like, okay, check this, check this off the list. Let me get my, you know, vaccine. Let me do what I need to do. How is this going to work out for meet and greets what theaters we're going to and shockingly starting with america they were on their best behavior they really did follow through shocking shocking girl even look florida and texas where masks and teeth are optional they were on they were on their best behavior so i was i was. So I was quite surprised.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I was quite surprised. I know. How have the meet and greets been? Like, I'm a little scared still to do meet and greets. So I haven't been doing them. Well, they have to show proof of vaccine. And you also have to wear your mask. And then right when we have distance between us when we take the photo.
Starting point is 00:28:02 And right when we take the photo, you can take your mask off. So that's the game. So I've made it through however many cities I've been through and knock on wood, things have gone well. And also just people have been respectful. In the end, I'm still kind of shocked that people want to pay extra money to meet me. So you're just like, all right. But they do respect the rules. And, you know, thanks to Photoshop, they can move us closer together.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But that's really, you know, the Avril they can move us closer together but that's really you know that the avril labrine approach to meet and greet but um i know i still take the time to talk to them and schmooze with them you know they just have to keep their their masks on while you know while we're doing all of it so we have enough people around us and people on our team that keep them and remind them and make sure that we're all safe. And I get tested every goddamn week. So it's, it's insane. I get tested so much. I can't wait to not have a fucking nasal swab up my nose. Oh wait, they've been doing your nose? Yeah. What do you get? Well, I'll talk to the, it's been up my ass, but I'll find out. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Honestly, I would take it up my ass. Let's just, let's just call it what it is. She horny all the time. She always be wanting it. A little tickle, a little tickle. Just a little, ooh, tickle to the booty hole. Ooh, ooh, little tie. Ooh, boo. Did you ever see, did you ever see that, that, uh, there was a fabulous meme that said, whoever has my voodoo doll, just please lick the booty hole.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I mean, yes. my voodoo doll just please lick the booty hole i mean yes if someone has a voodoo doll of me lick my pussy and then lick the booty hole but don't go back to the pussy because don't give me a yeasty got it got it i didn't realize that was okay so that's how that works okay that's how that works okay so you got a yeasty you got to do number one before number two got it yes got it yes good to know and never to the do the two switch because it's not no bueno. I gotcha. Okay, great. Then you end up with a pumpernickel loaf.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Yeah, you don't want that. I love Cheesecake Factory and I love a pumpernickel loaf. It is so fucking good. Well, that's also the advantage of being on the road is, you know, the food options. You know, you get excited when there's an Olive Garden or Cheesecake Factory. You know, America, like, that's like a step up. You're like, ooh, I've got options and large portions. So that's another advantage to the road.
Starting point is 00:30:15 You know, when we have our off days that we'll have our family dinners where we end up at some restaurant of that type, which you don't really get when you're living in the cities. You know, we live in New York or Los Angeles. You eat delicious, very well-crafted food. No're living in the cities. You know, we live in New York or Los Angeles. You eat delicious, very well crafted food. No, I'm kidding. Right, right, right. But I love shitty food. Of course.
Starting point is 00:30:34 How do you relax, Bianca? Do you relax? Xanax. I don't do well with time alone. Like people say, oh, you should take a vacation. Okay, I can have a day, you know, maybe putting things off. I like to read is one of the things I like to do, but there's always something to do. And there's always something to think about, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:00 and I don't do well with too much time off. That's why the pandemic was a bit challenging. I just moved into a new house. So I have that to take care of and reorganize and get my life together. But it was kind of driving me crazy on the mental level because I just enjoy knowing I have a schedule. I just, I need, I need that. I need to know I need to be somewhere doing something no matter how big or small. I just enjoy the business of it all. So unwinding is not an option. Now I've been known to take a weed gummy and pass out in a pool. I've been known to take a Xanax and fall asleep on the beach which is nice
Starting point is 00:31:27 okay that kind of stuff i can do yeah i love how you're like i'll sleep if it's tropical and kind of dangerous yes yes completely i'm risky like that yeah Yeah. Okay, so me being a single woman. Yeah. Looking, trolling for dick. She's horny for it at all times. Yeah. What do you think I could be doing to get that dick? Well, I mean, I think men would probably be a little more accepting or be open to your approach.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I think your approach of saying, hey, let's fuck is the way to go. I mean, it cuts out all the bullshit. I think that you're doing it right because you don't want to be that girl that's going, I'm hoping this turns into marriage. I mean, that scares a motherfucker. And if anybody agrees to that, they're crazy. But I think your boldness and thinking like a gay man is the way to go is saying, let's cut the shit, which most gay men should cut shit out because that's a technical problem. Although my good friend, Lady Bunny says that diarrhea is a water based lubricant. But nonetheless, when you're in the moment, I think being being up front is the way to go. And I think you're doing that saying, hey, I got a time between 8 p.m. and 10 p.m.
Starting point is 00:32:49 and look, I'm this and I just want you to lick it and stick it and roll. I think that's the approach to go. And I don't know if you can do that on those sites. I don't know if those straight sites are that direct. I mean, you can. I just feel like a lot of men have just, I don't know. I feel like I said it before. I think things have just changed and they're like, wait, what? You don't want to know how I went on a hike yesterday? No.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And I'm like, I've never cared not one time about anyone going on a hike. No, but what age group are you dealing with here? going on a hike no but what what age group were you dealing with here so it used to be i just recently upped it it was from like 25 to 47 and now i'm like i don't think i could fuck with the youth anymore okay so i upped it to 30 or no 29 to like 100 you know all right all right an old horny man is just like hey yeah you got what i like i'm like okay let's do it you know what's funny is that i remember i talking to a friend of mine one day and i said you know i just need to find some rich old man you know that's just what a rich old man and my friend looked at me and said cunt you, you are the rich old man. And I realized, damn, she got me.
Starting point is 00:34:06 But it was, it's that thing. I think, I just think honesty is the way to go about it. I think it's just important to say, hey, this is what I'm into. This is what I'm about, you know, and nip it in the bud. If they start talking about their height, bitch, I don't want to hear about your height. I don't, I don't care. Or put that in your bio. If you go on hikes, don't tell me about it. Don't tell me about your day. Yeah. If you go on hikes, don't tell me about it. Don't tell me about your day. Yeah, if you have extra time, don't bother with me. That, your friend saying you are the rich old man is like that Cher quote where... Oh, yeah, her mom.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Her mom is like, you just need a nice rich man. She's like, I am the rich man. It's true. It's true. It's that scary thing where you're like i mean imagine how to share date like how can you oh my god i mean you know we're peons compared to share but imagine that life you know and then also the fact that she's in her 70s and looking gorgeous i'm hoping i'm hoping she's got some action going on because it's fucking share but when you become share share
Starting point is 00:35:01 share share it's like yeah is it possible to be a real person? You know, who could live up to that? Yeah, who? I feel like everyone would just be so disappointing. There's a wonderful clip of Cher meeting Kim Kardashian on the Kardashians. And Cher is just like, okay, thank you. Goodbye. And you're just like, yeah, even Kim Kardashian doesn't impress Cher. It's incredible. No, and there's few people that you could say that about, but Cher is definitely one of those that you go, you know, maybe Oprah, maybe Oprah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Maybe. Maybe Oprah, yeah. Maybe you get a slight smile and like an oh out of her. Yeah, and that's it. Yeah. But I mean, I can't imagine, I think that the best way to, I mean, I appreciate appreciate honesty and that's very hard to find in the gay world. Let's be real. And even though I live in a world of make believe of, you know, fantasy and clownness is that the biggest clowns I meet are the people that are like, I want to be in a relationship. I really want to make this work. I really want to see something with it when all you want to do is fuck and then tell a story about it which is completely fine with me um but let's just set the boundaries up front you know what i mean i mean sometimes i will just push myself to go on a date because i'm like you know what you might actually like them or you might have a really good good
Starting point is 00:36:20 story yes yes story yeah always i can't remember when this was but i some i was like going out with somebody for like the second time and i was like i really like them and in my car i was like i don't want a story i just want this to go well yes and then sure enough i got me a story out of it and didn't see them again i was was like, okay, maybe this is what it is. Like maybe the universe, God, whoever is just like, sorry, you have to stay single because that's how you've made money. Exactly, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:56 That's where I have to sell myself. As I paint myself as a clown every night, I have to go, maybe these are the cards I was dealt. Maybe I'm meant to just not be with it because I find that on every other level, everything works out so much better for me when I'm not attached. And also I'm just, I mean, I'm not into astrology or any of that bullshit, but I say that, that, you know, I'm, maybe I'm just one of those people that, you know, I give too much attention to this person and it usually just blows up in my face, you know? So
Starting point is 00:37:24 I think I do better because I can then focus on up in my face, you know? So I think I do better because I can then focus on what I can control, you know, which is my own life, you know? And occasionally you pick up somebody here and there to have hookup, but overall relationships are just very, very hard. And also I think when you're a comedian or when you're out there and you're fearless and you're saying what you're saying, sometimes they're so intimidated by you that you can't get a person that's anywhere near your level you know i don't want somebody that's scared of me you know what i mean yeah and it would just be nice i think i feel like i've had to explain to so many people that i'm like okay what i say
Starting point is 00:37:58 on stage is yeah they're true stories or whatever but also like there's other stories that have happened that i don't say on stage because i'm a fully three dimension four dimensional three dimensional i'm a person in the round i'm a spherical person not spiritual spherical i feel like people just get stuck on what they see on stage and they don't realize that like you have so many more experiences that you just don't choose to talk about because that's not inherently funny or that's not what I'm trying to paint right now or whatever. not my identity, you know? And it's one of those things where, of course, I would like it if somebody understood it or has a sense of humor and gets it because if it's dark humor or whatever, that helps. But God forbid, that's not, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm not going to be cracking jokes or reading you when we're in bed, you know what I mean? That doesn't come to mind. It's happened, but it doesn't come to mind. So I think, yeah, I think that's, it's like having a smart person that, oh God, this sounds crazy, but like having a smart person that is understanding. Why is that so difficult?
Starting point is 00:39:12 Why is that so difficult? I don't know. And I, it's truly, you distilled it to the simplest aspect of what we want. Just a smart person who understands. Yeah, yeah, completely. Because the smart people usually get it and understand, you know, I mean, I have friends that are very smart, but I don't want to sleep with them. And I think it's just, it's weird because I don't know if there's a way out. I haven't seen any successful relationships, you know, in my world.
Starting point is 00:39:37 As I said, the ones that I do see online, I question it because I know a little too much information. But I also wish, sometimes I wish I could be like J-Lo and just fuck everybody and just move from man to man to man to man to man. And then go back to the ones I had before. I mean, wouldn't that be nice? What a dream.
Starting point is 00:39:53 What a dream. What a dream. Like she is never manless and it's, it's, it's fine. You know, it seems to be working for her, but I don't know if I could do that either.
Starting point is 00:40:03 You know? Yeah. I mean, I feel like you're too busy to balance that i feel like i'm too busy to ever balance like a pr relationship and yeah be seen here be seen there now we're fucking this person yeah that's like that's like a second career she's got going on well that's the only career she's got going on. Let's be real here. She'll do a movie here and there and then she's like, Ben Affleck,
Starting point is 00:40:27 where's my Dunkin' Donuts? Let's lay on a balcony. Girl, that kills me, those publicity shots. But it is interesting that that's basically what I know her to be. Is she a recording artist?
Starting point is 00:40:38 Maybe. Is she a movie star? Maybe. Is she an actress? Possibly. But is she a hoe? Yes, and a damn good one! J-Lo is a hoe!
Starting point is 00:40:47 Jenny from the block, and they meant she was making her rounds on the block. And she's been sucking lots of cot around the block, Jenny. I mean, I'm not mad at her. I would love for her to send me a cease and desist. Can you stop talking about me like this? Please. But no, but in the end,
Starting point is 00:41:04 you go, is that, I mean, it seems to be working for her, but I don't know if I could do it. But then there's that moment, you know, those, those peak hours when you're wide awake and you're just like, maybe that is the way to go. Maybe that is happiness. You know, I don't know. Maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:17 But like, also she has so much money and stuff that like, she doesn't have to hustle. I don't even know if she hustled to have a crew i don't know i'm i'm always like wondering about people who live like that i'm like what was your hustle like to get to where you are yeah because you don't see everybody's hustle you don't see everybody's like grind or whatever but i wonder that does make you wonder and and not to mention just for the longevity somebody had said i read one the, I don't know who it was, but it was something on Twitter. I was pissing myself. And they said, y'all don't give Jennifer Lopez enough credit for being a good actress.
Starting point is 00:41:51 She's been acting like a singer for 20 years. And I have been cackling. It was not my joke, but I was cackling when I read it. I'm like, now that's good. Now that's good. That's good. I love a shady tweet where you don't even tag the person. You're just like, here's a fun thought.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Because I think if you're going to be shady, you don't need to tag the person. Nobody needs to. They don't need to know. No, they don't know. And I also think that, you know, if it's coming from a comedian, I would hope the individual would have a sense of humor. Actually, I heard a story about Cher and Joan Rivers in particular is that share was performing in in las vegas and so was joan and after share show in the 70s 80s she would go see joan at night and she goes she would get share would get very upset if joan did not talk about her in the show because you know she had
Starting point is 00:42:42 all those jokes about share went shopping with her boyfriend at toys r us you know all that kind of shit that she goes she would be offended if she did not talk about her and i got love that's that's how it should be you know what i mean that's what it should be about we should all be able to make fun of ourselves for christ's sake i feel like if a joke is coming from like a place of truth yes that's comedy yeah and like you and it's funny like the j-lo joke i think is funny i think even she would laugh at it yeah i mean if she if she had a sense of humor about herself well we know mariah mariah carey was laughing at it yeah you know that mariah carey's so fucking funny i don't know her oh it was like an interview where they were like jennifer lopez says she sleeps a full like 10 hours a night and she was like an interview where they were like jennifer lopez says she sleeps a
Starting point is 00:43:25 full like 10 hours a night and she was like i would sleep too if i didn't sing and i was like it's so fucking funny to me i yeah i think like i don't know like i wish more people could like laugh at themselves a little bit they Well, they should. They should. As opposed to just being, I don't want to say everybody's offended by everything because I don't think that is a true statement. I think we're just becoming more aware of other people's experiences and becoming a little bit more understanding and sensitive. But I'm like, sometimes people get overly sensitive on behalf of other people who haven't even said that they're offended. Well, that's the trick. That's the thing that I find fascinating. And I often say, you know, I refuse to apologize for anything
Starting point is 00:44:09 or try to do some PR stint where it's like, well, I didn't mean that. My words got no, no, no. Either you like it or you don't. It's not for everybody. And also in the end, if the individual that I'm talking about ain't mad, why the fuck are you mad? And you already hate me, so you're looking for something to come after me with, you know what I
Starting point is 00:44:28 mean? And that's where I say, you know, your audience is your audience and everyone is not going to like you, you know, and that is okay. But I also think that maybe, you know, it's not to say that people don't always have opinions, but I think because of social media is so much more noise, you know, and they just want to jump in the game and say, well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or you've done this or you've done that. And, and that's where, you know, then you're not my audience, you know, then you don't get it. So I'm not going to entertain it, which is probably the hardest thing not to entertain. I agree with you. Cause I don't apologize for jokes that I've said in the past that have offended people. I just don't tell them anymore. I'm like, understand i get it i i shouldn't be talking about this that makes sense like if i
Starting point is 00:45:10 apologize and i'm saying i went on stage and was like i intended to make you mad i'm like no i thought it was funny at the time and now i've learned and i get that it's not funny yeah we're not giving people time to grow i don't think yeah. Yeah. And also, I just think it's important that, you know, you don't need to apologize to something that it just, it kills me because there's a fine line where when someone tells me, well, you know, that's offensive, or I find this, that, okay, well, it may not be funny to you, but it may be funny to someone else. So, okay, so you don't like it. Then maybe I'm not for you.
Starting point is 00:45:43 You know, and I often say, too, you know, you've got someone like Celine Dion, she's a singer, right? Every song she sings is not a fucking hit. So what? Let's just, let's just kill her because she did this one song we don't like. And then therefore she's no longer credited as a singer and she no longer matters. And you're like, that's not how this works. Everything is not going to be a winner. Everything is not always thoroughly thought through. But I also refuse. Oh, is she apologizing for some of the albums and hair choices she's had? No.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Should she? Yes. But no, that's how I have to look at it. Because that's what people want from you. They want you to feed into their madness. And I'm like, I'm not trying to fuck with some 13-year-old girl on Twitter who's mad at me because she likes Trixie and doesn't like me. I don't give a shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:28 I mean, honestly, I think that is such a great way to look at it. It's like we don't get mad at singers or whatever for like, you know, shitty stuff that they put out. And it's like, not every joke is a winner. Not every joke is a fucking hit. Not even on the same night. Like one night it could kill the next night it doesn't it can it can work in this context or setting and not in that and that's where the filming comes in and that's where the retelling comes in and then there's no context to
Starting point is 00:46:55 it which really can change it if you say hey i mean there was some of the funniest jokes i'd ever heard which was uh eddie murphy and brawl back in what, 1984, I believe it was. I mean, offensive gay stuff that I was pissing myself laughing at. But if you say it was from 1984, and this is what it was, and this is what we had, it's the context you need to understand. And I recently heard that he apologized for these jokes. And I'm'm going this is crazy to me that why now like at that time that richard pryor one of the most brilliant people you know i just think that that's that's where it goes wrong and that's where i think wanting to be liked can get you fucked you know what i mean i yeah i think i would appreciate it more i didn't know he apologized for that because i think that
Starting point is 00:47:41 special is so funny and it's like yeah some of it is offense a lot of it is offensive yes but it is the 80s completely different time and you know there wasn't as much discourse and discussion over shit so it's like let's leave that art in that time completely that's where that belongs and we know that it's not okay now i just i feel like people aren't being smart about stuff would you think but then also there's the other side who's like cancel culture is the devil and you're like oh my god why are you being so wild about this yes because you we want you to not talk about trans people anymore you are mad you're like you're this is the hill you're gonna fucking die on i feel like everyone is being insane well it's on level 10 and i think because we're we're so
Starting point is 00:48:32 the access is there you know that we turn on our phones and it's either facebook it's instagram it's twitter you know there's so much and they just need to fill it with context you turn on the news you know back in the day the news actually gave you news. Now they give you opinions. So imagine that times 10 with our social media world. I don't even have to watch the news anymore to know what's going on. I check Twitter. And then when you check Twitter, there's going to be 40 characters explaining what they think and then this and then that. So it gets really tricky. And as I said, without context or proper information or knowing where it comes from, it really doesn't help any of us. And it just becomes this vicious fucking cycle of bullshit that you're like, is this even true?
Starting point is 00:49:11 Did this even happen? You know? Yeah. I mean, I love that Twitter now is like, do you want to read the article before you retweet this? And it's like, I should. I should. What am I doing? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:21 I'm just like blindly like, this is terrible. Then you're like, oh, actually, I got to walk that back. That article has nothing to do with what I thought it did. The headline led me to believe something else. Yes. Yes. Bianca, we have to take another break. Sure. And we're back. Okay, I just really want to talk to you about your like signature makeup style like i feel like you were like this is how i do it you're not getting anything different and i love that well let's just be honest there's certain queens that do things that are that are that are beauty queens that are pretty queens and they live by okay this is how i do it or there's just queens that are transformation queens you know that are like hey i can be anything and try and i look i respect all of that that is their art
Starting point is 00:50:08 and everybody runs differently i like a particular style i know what works for me and this is what i'm doing and i'm making no fucking exceptions and it you know it has evolved obviously uh you know the more money you get the more eyeliner you get the more it starts to expand into your hairline um but also i just think that that's just what i've always liked i like looking artificial money you get, the more eyeliner you get, the more it starts to expand into your hairline. But also, I just think that that's just what I've always liked. I like looking artificial, because I'm not going to be a pretty soft woman. I'm not trying to fool anybody. I am a clown. And that's just what I know that works for me, you know? So I love it, especially I was just doing a live the other day backstage and some bitch you know i was playing gladys knight because i'm trying to educate the children on important people
Starting point is 00:50:50 that are performers i'm like miss katie labelle miss dion warwick was gladys knight i said all of these brilliant women are still with us so please celebrate these fabulous artists and stuff and i'm playing songs and saying you need to watch this, you need to watch this concert. You need to watch this. So as I'm doing it, I had to stop Gladys Knight because some fucking bitch came in with her thing. Every time I see your stories, you've got the same makeup. I had to stop Gladys Knight and said,
Starting point is 00:51:15 look at you fucking cunt. That's what I'm doing. This is, I'm doing the same show every night. This is just what I'm fucking doing. You want to see looks, go look at Nina Bodina Brown with her little paper plate hats that she makes. She'll give
Starting point is 00:51:28 you looks. I'm not that bitch. I'm not that bitch. And why are you looking for looks from me when I gave you none on Drag Race to begin with? You know? So I'm not saying that they can't do what that is, but I'm going what does that even mean? I was even told once I was even told once by someone that I'm
Starting point is 00:51:44 not a real drag queen because I don't lip sync. whatever the fuck that means. But that's the world we live in. So as you're trying to educate people, this is their opinion. So they're like, oh, it's the same. You do the same makeup. Yeah. Because when you look at a picture of it, you know that it's me. When you see a wig, you know, that's Lady Bunny. You know, you see that dress and those legs, you know exactly what that is, you know? And I think that it's a Coco Peru, one fucking wig, her entire career, one fucking wig. Those little bangs and that bob. Bitch. And she is, I'm like, why didn't I think of that?
Starting point is 00:52:15 So it's that thing where I go, that's your thing, you know, and that's what works for you. RuPaul never wears bangs. Okay. Anybody talking about that hot topic? No, but she's never worn bangsul never wears bangs okay anybody talking about that hot topic no but she's never worn bangs never wears bangs or as they say in the uk fringe she doesn't wear fringe there's no fringe on her no um so it's it's um it's that thing where i just thought this is what works for me and and and on occasion you know i have moments where i've been in dressing rooms with
Starting point is 00:52:42 someone like naomi smalls and plastique where I go, girl, why am I even trying? I mean, with those two, with those two. I mean, no, I mean, they are women. And I mean, I am definitely their wicked stepmother. So it's that kind of a thing where I've just accepted this is what I do. And it's also, you know, for me, it's therapeutic when I'm getting ready. You know, you set up and it's part of the process. I started going through my dialogue in my head of what happens with the show. I put on my Gladys Knight, I put on my Dionne Warwick or whoever the diva of
Starting point is 00:53:12 the day is. And, you know, you just go into the zone. So I know a lot of queens now have, you know, makeup artists that do things for them or have people that do their ways. I still do everything myself because I just, I, for me, that's the passion going into the process. So yeah, that's kind of how it's evolved. And it just helps me get ready. It's like, right from this time to this time, I start my process and people leave me the fuck alone. It's one of the few times I'm by myself, you know, where I'm not being bombarded and I'm not saying it's problematic.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I mean, when I'm ready to be the show pony, I'm ready to be the show pony. I'm on be the show pony i'm on time and let's go let's fucking go yeah do you do your own wigs as well yes that's where i started your fucking wig line is so clean it's so nice well let me tell you these hoes don't get it now these hoes are all talking about i spent a thousand dollars on human hair and all my wigs are synthetic. All of them are synthetic. The trick to it is you have to have proper wig lace. And the lace is what matters.
Starting point is 00:54:11 So if you're getting a manufactured wig that has the thicker lace because the wig was made on a machine, therefore, it had to be thicker for them to run it on the machine. So therefore, you're going to see it. But there's a process that you do before that, which I'll tell you privately of how I get it clean, but also having the proper lace is important. So I also have it custom for my head and then ventilate it, which then it fits my head properly. So there's no pulling and there's no sideburn action. And, um, it's just a much thinner, more delicate lace that you have to just take care of, you know? Yeah. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky. Yeah. And I mean, we, I, I'm wearing still some of
Starting point is 00:54:46 the same because i do a lot of piling of hair you know like like legos um so the some of the lace fronts i still have i have multiples in in same colors obviously um are from when i wore on drag race eight years ago that's insane and the thing is the lace is an inch long and you can't spook it and iucked with that shitty fucking lighting because we were back in the day uh where i don't think i think we were i think we were filmed in hd but when it aired on logo it was not an hd but um i think on netflix or wherever it is now it's it's an hd but yeah that that lace is an inch long and you can't see it it just melts into your skin even courtney act who has her own wig
Starting point is 00:55:25 company is always like that hairline bitch that hairline it's incredible i like when i get to meet you up close i i was like stop staring nicole like look her in the eyes and be a normal person but i was like fuck man you cut backstage i'll show you i'll show you you come backstage i will show you properly but that's you know that's also just been a thing you know i like i started with wigs for the opera you know and i was making wigs for opera divas and you know as the women got bigger the hair had to get bigger you know uh and i love it that was the game many madame butterflies were done so you know the folding of black hair i know what to do with and and i guess that's just how i've always looked at
Starting point is 00:56:04 it and there's something there's something I said before, just therapeutic about getting your own self together. I'm not stressed. I know what I'm doing for myself. I know what works for me. I know what I can get done in a short period of time. And it's just my little process. Yeah, I feel the same way. I love just getting ready for a show alone in the hotel bathroom. way i love just getting ready for a show alone in the hotel bathroom and just take like an hour and a half and i paint and i curl and put the lashes on and i'm like ah she's ready and then i'm like oh no i'm running five minutes late yeah of course of course of course but that's also the thing too it's just you know all of that is just part of the package that you do like i've been on the street where someone will walk up to me and say read read me or say something funny. And I'm just like, bitch, I'm at Starbucks. Like this has nothing to do
Starting point is 00:56:48 with like, you got to catch me when, when you're paying, you know, cause then it makes sense. I'm off the fucking clock. Yeah. And, and, and also just that it doesn't work that way when I'm in that, you know, that monkey suit or that suit of armor, it's a different game, you know, that then all bets are off but just walking down the street i might have an opinion but i'm not you know letting everybody know about it on the street you know uh i absolutely understand that bianca we have come to the end i ask all my guests this real quick oh god okay would you date me yes i would date you
Starting point is 00:57:23 in a hot minute. And I already know the trick. I know the trick. You're not going to waste my time. I'm going to lick your pussy before I lick your asshole. I'm not going back and forth. And listen, I'm not mad at licking your asshole because I like to talk shit anyway. So this is perfect. This is perfect. But I would gladly let's go on a date. Let's go on a date. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yes. Okay, Bianca, what would you like to promote? Well, just to let everybody know that I am wrapping up my unsanitized tour here in America. So I will be heading to Latin America, Canada, all over the UK and Europe. Australian dates in New Zealand will be announced soon as well. So
Starting point is 00:58:03 if all that information you can go to the Bianca del Rio.com. And also to let everybody know that I'm coming to the UK to do, everybody's talking about Jamie on their UK tour. And it will be in Los Angeles at the Emerson theater, mid January to mid February. It's a North American premiere of me in this British musical that is happening then. And I'm quite excited because basically the story is a young gay boy who wants to be a drag queen.
Starting point is 00:58:31 And I'm playing an elderly drag queen who's generous. So it's very challenging. Very challenging for me. I don't know. Seems pretty on brand for you. We'll see. An old giving drag queen. I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Bianca, thank you so much for doing this you're a fucking delight oh well thank you of course a real treat it's a pleasure to chat with you and anytime you want to come backstage we'll talk lace fronts we'll make it happen oh yes all right my love thank you real quick i just need to read a dirty review so if you send me a nasty review and you send it to what is it why won't you date me yes why won't you date me podcast at gmail.com i will read it this nice person said nicole if you're reading this i would love to make a hot fudge sundae on your feet two scoops of vanilla hot chocolate whipped cream nuts and sprinkles then lap and lick up every last bit of it while the remnants of ice cream sit in my mouth i would work my tongue up your naked body licking all over till i reach your mouth so i can
Starting point is 00:59:29 stick my tongue in there and let you taste let you have a taste of your own delicious hot fudge foot sundae wow you nasty little freak i love it thank you bye. So you got my message. That was my message. Girl, I draw the line with feet. I draw the line with feet. Don't bring feet around. Are you a foot person? Don't tell me. I am not a foot girl.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I don't care for it. No, get out of here. You don't want dirty drag queen feet either. They never look good. So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't care for that. No, I just got a visual. Oh, gross. That's nasty. That's it for Why Won't You Date Me with me, Nicole Byer. Why Won't You Date Me is produced and engineered by, oh, the sweetest woman I know, Marissa Melnick. It is executive produced by other
Starting point is 01:00:21 wonderful people, Adam Sachs, Joanna Sol-Taroff, and Jeff Ross. Thanks for listening. I love you. Thank you so much. We'll be seeing you next Friday with a brand new episode. What a dream. What a dream. Ha, ha, ha.
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