Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 47: Our Summer Holiday Finale!

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

It’s our final show while Rom’s away on his family holiday in Greece and it’s been a wonderful summer break. So we’re talking… breakfast buffet banter, the best waiter in the world, working on your personality traits, what the point of wasps is, playing a cameo in other peoples lives, bacon quality abroad, the comedians inner circle, the greatness of Chris McCausland, Tom’s Christmas Rant disaster, an uncleaned air-frier and desperately trying to impress people in their 20’s. Plus, our first W&O FPL update of the season and more on the fall-out from Ray Gunn’s Olympic breakdance fiasco. For questions or comments, please email us at [e-mail] - we’d love to hear from you. Instagram - @wolfowlpod TikTok - @wolfowlpodcast YouTube - www.youtube.com/WolfandOwlPodcast Merch & Mailing List - https://wolfandowlpod.com A Shiny Ranga Production For sales and sponsorship enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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as good and it was janky as shit last time but we've got cleaners in the hotel room so I can't really. How are you getting on with the cleaners? Are you sort of replacing your life here with a bit of a banter with them? Actually this morning I tried to have a bit of banter with the breakfast people and I felt... Hold on, hold on, last day? No, no, I've been doing it regularly but today I feel like you've sort of influenced the way that I behave very proud of you, bro. Very proud Yeah, yeah, and I also experienced what you must experience where they seem to be slightly fed up with me engaging them a conversation You've got to pick your people what I'd say about breakfast buffet staff is that they're an eclectic mix of human beings. You're gonna get some that vibe off you,

some that love that interaction, but you're gonna get some that are simply fucking omelette streamlined their brain. They've got those fucking- There's one guy here who works on the breakfast, whatever the kids or me are wearing, he's got some in-depth conversation to start her about. So like, Charlie the kids will be wearing, he's got some in depth conversation starter about it. So like, Charlie went down with a Jordan, a pair of Jordans on. And then

he just went up and said, Michael Jordan, yeah, the gold the greatest of all time. And Charlie's like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then I went in and I got this like Wu Tang top on today. And he just went to cash rules, everything around me, cream, get the money. just meant to cash rules everything around me cream get this generally sounds about the most amazing way he sounds incredible if I was you I would be fucking I would literally look at the considerable savings you have and think about getting him a restaurant of his own he would kill it mate that would that

he could pay I think that could be like new hard rock, someone like him. I mean it just shows how little you think of the restaurant industry that you think knowing being able to say Michael Jordan and Naima Wu Tang Clan song means that you can run a successful restaurant. Mate, mate, mate, I'm gonna tell you now right, that guy would know anything. You could go in a Taylor Swift t-shirt, he'd know exactly what three or four of her songs, right? You could walk in there with like, I don't know, some sort of like nice cashmere silk scarf. You think he'd ever level of knowledge that niche that he knows a Taylor Swift song, you think?

No, no, no, no, no. He would know a little bit of everything. This guy, mate, do you know, like we've done a lot of talking about the waiting service and the service industry. Hence a lot of my DMs are about that now. More so than I'd like on the basis of just dropped a special this week. But this guy, this guy, this guy sounds incredible. It's a bit of a worry with when you've when you've dropped a special. I'd say I've probably 30% of the DMs are about the special and 70% are about the service industry and people are eating off each other's plates And then I will say this by the way Chris Pacman shout out again

Share it one of the few people who really shared the post felt some love from Pat from a distance Yeah, how do you feel about you pulling him Chris Pacman by the way? way. That's an affectionate nickname I gave. Yeah, yeah. He loves Chris Backham so much so you just sort of mix it up. Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. You do remember the little guys, don't you? That's the intrinsic sort of nature of just trying to remember their voices as well and names. Yeah, TP's really been great for me. He's been very sweet. Shout out to Tom Packman. Do you know actually, Tom Packman got a lot of love on a lot of people who were shouting out, so I shared his story and it left a lot of people sort of like, I think like, because a lot, I don't know if people knew that he was a real, real living, breathing human being,

and a lot of people are buzzing off the fact that, you know, he sort of come up and, you know, all of a sudden you can actually almost feel and touch him. This is quite sort of an amazing feeling. Yeah, yeah. No, he messaged me saying he's got a lot of messages off his story now, so. Oh, nice.

From people sort of offering him some support. I guess it's kind of like, I don't know, what is it? It's sort of looking after someone that's been wronged. Do you know what I mean? Sort of just reach out and go, you are appreciated. You can keep on delving this, right? But this difference between me and you is I felt absolutely mortified about the whole Tom Patton situation, right? Felt disgusted in myself. I'm doing everything I can to make it right. Will we ever be, you know, will our relationship ever sort of like soar through the clouds like yours and his? That's probably not. But will we have a stable friendship that I hope we can build from now? Yes, I'm gonna do everything I can to make it up to Tom Packman.

Like you've, like some of the people, you've really wronged them and your apologies which are usually like Oh, do I have to say any S words? That would mean I'm wrong. That's like, yeah yeah that's the difference between you mean you man I'll take you I take that bullet of fucking faith take it to the heart go shit bro I wronged an absolute angel of a human being and whatever I could do to bring it back to TP I would fucking bring it back whatever whatever you can do be that shit sharing a poster where he's bigging up your special or

getting his name wrong on the podcast anything you could possibly do you really have gone above and beyond is I'm actually gonna I want to buy a football shirt and I'm gonna get Pacman number one on the back why just to show a level of fear I should much get hanging in the back there just that's lovely you should do that get Pacman on the back and then hang it front ways on so you can't see it. That's exactly the sort of thing you do. You'll break the frame just to see it. Yeah, there you go.

So sorry, you were saying about so you're trying to have fun with the with the restaurant staff in the breakfast bar. Would you say the buffet staff, I think the buffet staff are the most chilled staff at any hotel, right? They are, I love them, I love them. The problem is, is that I start to get a bit nervous that I get very paranoid, because Lisa is, I don't think she's shy, but she's so,

I know you think I don't talk to strangers much, Lisa is next level, right? She's like almost, in those situations becomes mute, I would say, right? She's just very, very sort of. I would say with Lisa, she's a very good judge of character. She's working people out. Yeah, she is.

I think me and Lisa would be amazing cop, we'd be a good cop duo together. Me and Lisa. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a next logical step from what from what I said so so she just doesn't talk very much the thing is I then started trying to chat to the breakfast staff and I look like I look like you know one of these husbands that just talks for his wife Oh, no. Oh, no. Are you ordering for her? Are you ordering for her? No, no, no. Okay. No. Oh, man.

But I sort of, there's a couple of times when I said something about Lisa to the staff, where... You're joking about her with the staff. Yeah, but I thought it was funny, but like sort of Lisa wasn't, she wasn't fully involved in the conversation. so it just looked like I was sort of, to be honest, it looked like the dynamic of sort of, you know one of these husbands

who sort of takes the piss out of his wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For laughs from outsiders. Yeah, one of her effects was you read the game in 1998 and now you're still with her. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, could you get me a couple of croissants, please? I need something to get me over being tied to this ugly old bitch. Anyway

Say that did you? You need to get back to England and get back to work I think Fucking negate away Think about Lisa Lisa. She's very quick. She's very, she'll give it as good as she gets but like yeah. What I love is that Holiday Rom is sort of like you've brought this sort of like really sort of like outward vibe that you're really sort of, you're not the king of the buffet. No but I was trying to like, do you have these things where you sort of go like, I don't know if you have this but every now and again I have like a thing where I think I'm going

to work on this, right? Like this is going to be my, yeah this this is gonna be on my development point, right? So my development point was, my problem is that I look just, I look incredibly standoffish, right? And then because I don't talk that much, I'm not an extrovert, despite being a standup comedian, I'm not really an extrovert.

So when I go to these things, I think, am I coming off like, am I coming off like a standoffish and a bit horrible or a bit rude or whatever? So bearing in mind that you're... You know, I think that's genuine. Can I just say, by the way, and like you can go into the history books and whatever, I do think that's probably why the high five was invented. Like for people who feel like that they've got like sort of that sort of standoffish vibe and they don't want to commit to a handshake with someone they don't really know, that's what a high five was, I think that's why it was invented. So it's sort of standoffish vibe and they don't want to commit to a handshake with someone they don't really know. That's what a high five is. I think that's what I was invented.

So it's sort of like gives you quite a sort of relaxed feel. Hey man, how you doing? No, I think so many people think, I totally agree that I think a high five is so much more low key and less of a commitment than a simple handshake. You're right. Just raising your hand and just going, yeah, give me that. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right. Yeah. You're right. No, handshake is so formal. It's like you're going to it's raising your hand yeah give me that yeah yeah no you're right yeah you're right no handshake is so formal it's like you go to the president's house like high five is like yo what's up how you doing oh girl I'm gonna murder some eggs this morning friend yeah yeah so I just said what you just did there was what I was trying to be a bit more like I was trying to be a bit more like you I thought let me just try just roleplay I'm the Greek waiter right hey man cool I just love your reaction to stuff more than what I say. Right, okay.

Right, you ready? Oh, you're frozen. I thought this was the all time fucking cloak. Oh my God. JT, keep this in because I generally thought is actually, was doing the longest stare ever. But it's in fact, oh man. Sorry, that was- I actually, I thought you were doing the longest

Ramesh stare ever. I was, I was, I was. Which was genius. I was. And then it just cut out. Yeah. Oh man. Okay, so, all right, so what we do in this role play of like going into the thing, right? Yeah, okay, cool, cool, cool. We've done the board shorts line, yeah?

So we've done the board shorts thing, that's what 20 minutes of the pod done with you laughing at your own joke. I would love to see you watch your special. Imagine you're pissed at your hamster and you're laughing. You know the thing that, right, I want to be honest with you,

I don't watch myself and laugh. My thing is always your reaction. always because I picture you in those peripheral like long sort of board shorts. I don't wear board shorts, but I would say my shorts are a bit funky today. What can we see them? Hold on. You're looking so good, by the way. You're so ripped. My they're banging. Okay. They're next level. Where they from? I

don't know. It's very cool. Do you like those? They're very cool. Yeah. Fucking. Okay. Okay. Right. You're in your outfit. You've got on now. Yeah, that's breakfast. Okay. Okay. Cool. On the way. Oh, man. Here he is. Mr. Cool guy. They're the coolest shots I've ever seen That's like a streets album my friend. Oh, thanks man That's well, you know, I've got to do something every night to keep up with my gorgeous wife and the kids always looking very drippy I know so Yeah, you're the coolest of all of the family me and the other

guys in the kitchen were saying I want to watch mr. cool guy aka you is gonna work down for breakfast this morning yeah actually I was just I was talking to lasers we're walking over here we're wondering how did does she speak right yeah she does you know joking wise what you said about her yesterday yeah no she's a bit of a moody old cow sometimes. But what I was going to ask you, sir, we're wondering how did a German guy end up working in Greece? Oh, it's an interesting story. Uh, I came over here with my small pumpkin factory in Germany failed and I had to

find work, but there was no way of finding work in Germany to some of my beliefs that are slightly right wing. I had to find somewhere where people were like-minded, like me, and I came to this hotel and everybody felt the same. Oh, wow. So that wasn't a high five then? Ha ha ha!

Oh no, that was no high five. End scene. Wow, man, same as that. This is so amazing. and anyway it's that sort of thing I'm trying to sort of sort of trying to chat to the geyser so you try to chat yeah also by the way you know the thing with the breakfast buffet chat right one of the things essential with it yeah always carry a plate. Yeah.

Always carry your plate. Because then it looks like you're on business. Yeah, there was a bit of a- You're taking care of business. There's a bit of a situation at breakfast this morning. Because it's like, if you'd imagine that there's a, if I can just put it in your mind's eye, there's a breakfast buffet sort of one side of the room.

And then sort of just past where the roof finishes that's where they put most of the seating so everyone's out in the sun right so by the way my pet hate i hate it no i hate the sun as well that's why we get that's why we come away to avoid it no no no i like the sun i like the sun i don't like breakfast i don't like eating in the sun okay well there are there are there were no wasps and flies here i don't know what they do to them but they're there you don by wasps. By the way, have you seen those traps that you can put wasps in that like we were out the other day for dinner and they had these little traps that they go into and they're like they fly in

they're like sort of they find them very engaging but they don't bees don't go in them but wasps do. Then they've got some sort of liquid in them. Fucking amazing. No I've not seen them. Because wasps are ruining the summer for me. What is the point of a wasp, by the way? Because it doesn't redo anything in the eco-train. I actually did have this discussion with the children. Because a lot of the time, obviously I'm vegan, so they're always talking about, every now and again,

they talk about the fact that I don't like eating animals and I don't want animals to come to harm or whatever. And then one other kid said to me, but wasps, wasps are pricks, right? You know, that's kind of the conversation we're having. Now I'm trying to figure out why actually wasps, I mean, there must be, there would be a massive impact. Like, you know how people talk about,

we've got to protect the bees, right? If the bees- Bees are amazing. Bees are incredible. Tom, Tom, Tom, don't start passionately disagreeing. I'm saying, that's what I'm saying, okay? I'm saying that's what I'm saying. Okay, please I'm saying all right, just relax. Yeah My point is I couldn't figure out what it is that wasps do I don't know what eats them

I don't know what they contribute and I don't want to be disrespectful to the wasps I'm sure there is a reason that they're here in terms of the ecosystem What it is, I can't figure it out And actually Googling hasn't solved the problem either. I've not been able to figure it out. Do you think wasps are kind of almost like, you know, and I don't mean to be disparaging here, but like a reality star of like the insect world. Maybe, but I mean, look, if we've been absolutely honest.

Kind of like we don't know what we kind of need them, but we do in a sense, do you know what I mean? Yeah, but let's be absolutely honest here. Wasps in terms of their net impact on the planet, I don't want to get hippie about this, better than us. Our net impact has been negative. Yeah, in terms of what wasps have done to the earth, they're better than us. Do you know how many people's holidays have been ruined because wasps have stung them? Do you know how many habitats of animals have been completely destroyed so that we can go on holiday?

I mean, this is mental arguing from you. All right, look, on the basis that I'm still fucking reading from the top of Tom Packman gate, right? I'm gonna fucking come back down on this one. I'm not sure you're right, but I think wasps- How can he not be sure I'm right? Yeah, but look, wasp-wise, right? Wasps are giving nothing.

We're trying at least to sort of like, yeah. Are we? Make things the best we can. We're not, look, me and you are. Obviously, like, there's probably better than good wasps. There's probably some wasps who are going out in the day going, I'm not gonna sting anyone, mate. Won't wanna sting anyone, that's not my vibe.

But there's some who are nasty little fuckers. They are horrible. They're out there with just stinging horrible yeah I would argue that even the environmental impact of us doing this podcast is bigger than any negative impact that any wasp have had mate yeah but also we're bigger than wasps you've got a fucking look scale wise if you made a wasp our size it would be absolutely terrible yeah of course it would but what the fuck has that got to do with what we're talking about? They're tiny yeah, and they've got a like a such a big is there impact you don't also by the way you don't you But you don't even know where wasps live dear

What you mean? We give it all the bigger wasps could be up to all sorts of fucking stuff They could be smoking crack. They can fuck you that yeah, they could have like, you know turning on machinery You don't know every time I have a chat with you there becomes a turning point where I realize I'm not having a real conversation anymore and when you said they could be smoking crack that's when I realized it starts off every time it starts off we're having a normal conversation I think I have a genuine debate with somebody then you say something like yeah what you know elephants love play the trumpet you don't know okay And then I go, okay, here we fucking go.

And by the way, I'd never say anything as silly as that, because elephants couldn't play the trumpet because they haven't got thumbs and fingers. No, you're right. That's actually the only thing you need. They'd actually be incredible trumpet players if it wasn't for that. That is heartbreaking for an elephant, by the way. Whilst can create and smoke crack, you're right. I don't know what I was thinking.

I'm not saying they can create that. I'm such a fucking idiot. So what are they doing? How are they getting it then if they're not creating it? If they find a crack part, they just go, oh, fuck, you know what, Mark, jump over here, mate. Have a look at this. I saw Tony and some others do this.

And then they basically just like, it was a crack part that's already been used. Someone else was disregarding crack. So crack parts are already being used. And what are these wasps then doing? Well, yeah, but there's a little bit of crack left. you. I just don't do anything for wasp is gonna be free Yeah for a wasp that's fucking that's a week's worth of crack. Mm-hmm Okay, then they're pretty good ten of them inside it and fly up in the air and just fly back to the nest

No, it's my fault. It's my fault. It is my fault. Okay. I'd say the incident of breakfast today. So that you got this high traffic area where people are getting up and coming. You got Lisa who you've been nagging all week. I've not been nagging all week, but just today it occurred to me that if you were, if you were to do you ever worry about the cameo you've had inging all week. I've not been negging all week, but just today, it occurred to me that if you were, if you were to, do you ever worry about the cameo you've had in someone's life? Like that what, cause they don't know your background. They don't know what you're coming at,

how you're coming into this. Right, I think about this all the time, bro. So they just see what you're presenting a break. Cause you know what's really interesting? You've just delved into something. You are the main character in your story, right? The weight is the main character in your story right the weight is the main character in his story and very much like a Marvel movie of which I know

you're a fan they sometimes cross over right and any movie not just Marvel but yeah no no but Marvel worlds collaborate right right right they're pulling Wolverine and such by the way amazing film but you you are now you're in a scene with another principal character. You're Deadpool, as you're putting more Wolverine, that way it's Deadpool, but it sounds things, right? So you basically sort of like, yeah, you've crossed over.

It's a beautiful moment, but he has also probably done stuff before he's had this scene with you in his own movie, right? Yeah, I understand that people have lives before they arrive at the breakfast. Fucking hell. You really, do you know what? If there was a Bafta category for someone who's taken the longest fucking time to make a simple point,

that'd have to rule you out because you win it every year. Well, that ended that. So anyway, so okay, so you've been, so there's this, So what you're saying is this guy has a life before he arrives at the breakfast, yeah, that's the point you're trying to make. Yeah, yeah, but also, he also has some idea

of what's going on with you, and Lisa, he's seen you every day for the last month and a half We've been on holiday. All right, okay For a month and half It's so do I've gotta be on my god all the time with you Just get fucking caught by friendly fire at any moment. He's just Right, okay, right, so here we go. What happens today? So I got, so basically what happened was, is Lisa and actually me, this is the other thing that makes

me feel worse, we're having sort of the same breakfast every morning, right? Okay, healthy, because obviously by the way, shout out, Romsky's doing the marathon again. Yes, yeah, yeah, the London marathon. But, so we're trying to be healthy because basically what we're trying to do, our strategy have been be healthy during the day so you buy yourself whatever you want for dinner. Do you know what I mean? In terms of calories and-

Good way of holidaying my friend. Yeah. So trying to be healthy at breakfast. We're having the same thing every day. And then one of the- Which is, if you don't mind me asking you, if I can inquire. Well, I've been sort of having the piss taken out of me for this.

I've been having porridge. Well, by the way, whoever's had me, porridge is a cool staple thing to have. I know, but isn't it, that's sort of a winter breakfast, isn't it? Yeah, but also I will say that porridge can be amazing at times. Yeah, okay. And porridge is, yeah, I'm not gonna lay it on you there. I've been having porridge with a bit of peanut butter and then some fruit.

Berries, isn't it, ever? Sometimes, although I put the wrong berries in the other day and it was like, it was bad, it ruined it. Not getting much protein in that breakfast. No, you're absolutely right. And that's something I've had to be conscious of at dinner. Anyway, Lisa has been getting a bit of fruit and then she's been getting a bit of bacon

and mushrooms and stuff like that, right? She's sort of, you know, like she's been. That shocked's been that's shocking me because you have to say the bacon abroad is terrible that's what she said absolutely that's what well that's what the kids said that's what the kids said that's what they're doing with the bacon over in different countries i think the truth is that absolutely insane well well yeah i would say they're doing it differently. Okay. Yeah, can I just say, yeah. You're used to having your bacon in a certain way and they're used to having their bacon in a certain way

and both ways are fine. No, no, no, no, no, no. They've got it wrong. Like I will say that our bacon and our sausages. By the way, the way in which I've weighed into an argument about bacon, bearing in mind I've not eaten a piece of bacon for probably, I don't know, 30 years or something, really displays the lack of, the disparity between confidence and knowledge of a Tom Davis.

What I'd love to do, Mike, is take over some of our bacon and just say, go into the chef and go, look, this is, and then I'll probably have to go to an abattoir, go to a butcher's and literally just try to get them to see that our bacon is so much better. And it's not just us, I can't take all the credit for that because also the Americans and the Australians do it in a basic manner way. Sorry, based purely on visuals,

don't Americans do bacon differently to the British people? No, I think it's quite, it's similar. It's similar to the cup. Can I just study from somebody that doesn't eat bacon? This is my impression of it. Yeah. Okay, so here where we are, the bacon is very, it's thinner. Yeah.

So quite crisp and almost curls up where they've cooked. You know, it's so crispy and so chewy. Almost like jerky quality, I would say. Yeah, I would say. Whereas in Britain it's sort of a bit fattier, it's a thicker cut of meat. It's a decent slab of meat. Don't Americans do it crispy like that as well? No. Yeah, but it's a thicker cut as well.

So you don't mind American bacon? When I've had American bacon, I've took a high five anyone involved in is bringing to the table and it's good. That is so that it appreciate that in America. So that's enough. You know that. So anyway, sorry, sorry. I've digressed slightly. So anyway, so anyway, the one of the waitresses, who said to Lisa, are you she's like, sort of encouraging Lisa

to order something a bit fancier, right. So she was going to Lisa old you you know, you you have the same thing every day you thought about having something different. So yesterday, Lisa, I think I've lost you there. Fucking hell. Yo, sorry. So anyway, by the way, yeah, can I say a big shout out to JT? Cause he won't have noticed last week, but this is what happened. What's happening this week happened last week,

which is my internet just kept failing every few minutes. Yeah. It's like you've got certain amount of time. It's like they only used to sort of podcasts at the last eight minutes. So yeah, I mean, I'd say it's an unreasonable request to have the wifi so fast that you record international podcasts, but, but you know, it's still anyway. Anyway, I'm literally on the edge of my seat. The waitress said, so the

waitress has said to Lisa, do you want to have something nice? So yesterday, Lisa said, I'm going to order a yogurt bowl off the menu. So there's some ala carte items on the breakfast menu. So little yogurt bowl, some granola and some like bits and pieces, right? So Lisa said, I'll have the yogurt bowl. And the woman like sort of made like a thing about it going, oh, Madam's having something, you know, it was like a bit of a moment, right?

Yesterday. Yeah. So Lisa has a yogurt bowl, fine. Today, she doesn't want the yogurt bowl, right? I'm sort of, this is such, it's not even funny wise. Like, I don't even know if it's worth telling this story. It's just I find it embarrassing. You've been driving off for half an hour.

Well, when you have 35 interruptions per story does add to the time. Right. So the woman comes over and she goes, what do you want? And she goes, Lisa said I have a green tea. And she goes, and are you going to have your experiment? And then I went no, she's done her experiment on this holiday. She had a yogurt bowl yesterday. Now I have a green tea. And she goes, and are you going to have your experiment? And then I went, no, she's done her experiment on this holiday. She had a yogurt bowl yesterday. Now she's back to normal.

And the woman looked at me like, you know, like that she felt sorry for Lisa. That is, that is basically the look she gave me. Not one, she would, I doubt she'll know you're a comedian for a start. So based on that, she's had with me at breakfast. she will you I doubt you'll know you're a comedian for a start. But there's probably an element because you've been sort of yeah you're like can I just ask you when you're going in and you're doing your sort of candid chats you having your banter with with everyone in there is it are you diversifying is it sort of like bit of banter with the waiters

and the waiters or yeah yeah yeah I of like zoning in on the, yeah. No, no, no. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. Why? Yeah, okay, cool. No, no, because sometimes she just- Were you worried that I was coming across like a misogynist?

Yeah, yeah, I was worried about that. Yeah, no, I wasn't doing that, I wasn't doing that. No, I was like, so the waitress, I was going, yeah, how's it going, da-da-da, and then the waitress, I was going, how's it going, sweetheart? You were fancy popping over some croissants for the family, my darling.

I love to see you walk away and get them. Obviously, you'd be classy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like really sort of like, they think I'm a legend, do you know what I mean? And sort of like, the sort of guy that I imagine thinking, what a shame he's married. Literally, before every breakfast, we turn around to wait, she's like, okay, the first thing is we won't let you serve the Ranganathan table on your own. We think that

could be too dangerous. If he calls you sweet cheeks, that's the beginning of him turning, so just move away. Just pour it running down your chin. There was a bit of an incident. Oh yeah, you're alright babe. Hello babe. So you know like, there's a bit of people watching this one. There's a kid, I would say this is bad behaviour from the fact, I'm not blaming the kid. He had a radio controlled car and was driving it around in and around the tables, right?

Which I think is, in a high traffic area is quite annoying, is going into people's feet as they're going to get their breakfast and stuff like that, you know. So. How old's the kid? Seven, six, seven, it's not the kid's fault. Right, you know, like I say, it's nobody's fault,

but I mean, it's just not ideal. Anyway. The only trouble is, is if he's demanded on doing that and they think rather than him kicking off it could be easier for him to just... Well what an insight into your parenting and what it'd be like to be at a restaurant with your family. But anyway so he's doing that and then another kid from another family gets up and just boots the car. Oh my God. Wow. Wow.

And this kid starts getting aggy and it starts to be a bit like the Beat It video. Do you know what I mean? Like they're facing off. I wouldn't have used that. I mean, for the aggressive situation. And then the parents have to get involved. Yeah, it started to get quite aggy actually.

It was a little bit, it's a little bit of nice drama over breakfast. Well, can I just ask, are there people English? There aren't actually that many English people here. Neither of those families are English, actually. Well, okay. Where do you know where they're from? No, I don't. I don't. No. Sorry. I would have asked, but they seem to be sort of... They seem to be engrossed in the knife fight that their children had engaged in.

Have you made many holiday friends or done any holiday chats since you've been out there? No. Really? Have we made any, no, not really. I mean, I've chatted to people, but it's mainly been people that have recognized me and asked for a photo,

and then you have a bit of a chat about the holiday off the back of that. You've got a sort of staple thing that you say about like a sort of comical sort of vibe. It's like, yeah, I've sort of fallen into the trap of just constantly saying I've, I've eaten too much and I'm feeling a bit tired, even if I haven't just had a meal. Just like a go to thing. So you got a bit of schnick. I was going to say with you, I knew it was going to be that or the weather.

Yeah. Yeah. How am I? Okay. If it wasn't for this insane beat, I mean, that's why you come away, right? I know we come away for it, but it's such a thing as too warm. Probably don't see me between one and three because I'm in the shade. So, yeah, do you have a little sort of like a gentle banter? It's quite nice. Yeah, anyone you know the name of?

Have you got anyone's name? No, but there is one family that we saw a few times. We went to a, they do like a white party here. Oh nice. So we went to that and got to know some like family there. Can you imagine a German boy who likes that? Yeah, he loves it. I'm surprised you showed up.

What did you, did you brush the proper all white outfit? I didn't have white shorts or trousers, so I had to sort of break the laws on that one. And then Alex did his typical thing of wearing all black. That kid just does not give a fuck. Well, that's a very cool vibe. Theo, I bet Theo was in all white, kind of fucking vibing, honey.

Pretty much, yeah. Pretty much. Lisa all white. Although Lisa had a bit of a shocker. Oh God, this is just me updating you on my holiday like we're having a fucking private chat now. This is awful. But we had dinner before the white party.

Lisa spilt quite a stony bit of pasta all the way down her dress. I bet you made some jokes. Did you joke with the waiters about it? Yeah, I was like, well, are you going to let her in? Er, she's not my wife. Can I get a bib please on table 8 for my wife? Someone's had a bit of an accident.

Surprise, surprise, it's not actually one of the children. Messy cow. Anyway, that's it. That's all I've got to say about that. I'll tell you what I've become obsessed with. I don't want to get too political. First of all, can we just get this out of the way? I'm having a fucking terrible time on Fantasy Premier League, by the way. Mate, I'm having an incredible time.

Where are you in our league? Like a thousandth or something. Whoa. I'm 51st in our age are you joking? No brother There's so many people joining all the time. Yes 2,250 in the wolf and owl pod Lake. I am higher up in the Ranganathan Lake. I'm fifth of five So that's going well, right Mate I'm top of the comedians

league at the moment that you were a member of last year and now you've not regained your membership. I wasn't invited. You were in it last year. Listen the different scene you and me is I'm not friends with any comedians. Yeah? Fucking hell come on. You're part of the, what people don't realize and it's probably I know it's something we've not addressed in a few years of doing this. There's an inner circle in the industry of like, of like a, of like a, of like a network of like people that sort of you're in with them and you sort of look out for each other and I just sort of get them into stuff if you can,

because I am not, I'm very much out of that circle I've had to make my way as an outsider. You're very Tom Davis here. For anyone who wants to go through our CVs let's look at whose you're the inner circle of everything everyone knows Ramesh. Everyone knows Ramesh because I've had to scrap against the adversity of people just not liking me No, whereas you have very much been in the end and and you know inside looking in I mean, I'd rather be where you are inside the tent pissing out than where I am Jimmy Fountains of piss running down on me in the campsite talking it in a weird way to that

so I was doing press this week for for the special and way to all that. So I was doing press this week for, um, for, um, the special and, uh, as part of the podcast, I imagine. And I did actually mentioned the podcast. So it's actually had a mention on the one show and Chris McCauley show. I mean, can I show that guy by the way? Fuck me. Wow. What a guy. Chris McCauley is incredible. He's exceptional. I love that. He's insane. He's a comic you should go much more but also I was doing his chat show and it is insane that how he remembers everything like he literally remembers the whole show and

Like it's so relaxed so chill with the thing and like the adversity of see your faces from being blind It's like just an incredible thing to watch him as a performer He's well worth watching if you see if you get a chance to see him on tour, make sure you do. Yeah, go and watch the guy. No, so anyway, I was not on that show, I was on another show and the person looking after me that day was like friends with, they're good friends with Richard Gad and then he turned, she turned around and said, oh Richard said oh, um, Richard said, um, say hello, and he said just to remind you do you remember? The Christmas ran and I was like, you know when you've done a job in this game Right and you it was so bad that you completely like almost like PTSD Just completely cut it for your mind as soon as you sort of like it was so awful

The Christmas Christmas ramp was my soccer am It was the... Thank you for managing to put a dig in on me there while you tell your story about your... No, no, no, no, no, but we've talked about your soccer AM experience quite a lot. No, I'm joking, I'm joking. I did it again. This was awful. I remember, like, you know, Richard Gadu's now obviously gone on to do incredible stuff. Myself, Tom Allen, who I think is one of the best stand ups in the game. Like a good level of people, Jade Adams, and we were made to watch reality

stars do their Christmas rants to massive laughs. What was the show? It was basically people ranting about things that annoyed them about Christmas. And then, like, so do you remember, like, Kem from Love Island was on it and he was, like, doing his rant about Christmas and all the studio was laughing. And then me or Richard or Tom would come on and do ours and it would just be to absolute sight. It was like one of the worst... You know, I tried to figure out, like, why that is, right? Like, whenever you're a comedian who's on with reality stars or TV stars that aren't known for comedy or aren't comedians, I feel like the expectation of the audience is different,

right? So if you're a comedian, that's your job, so you're supposed to be funny. So it immediately makes it more difficult. Can I just add, it wasn't an audience, it was just a studio of people who worked there, the production team. Okay, well that makes it infinitely worse.

If you'd had, because I remember me and Rich were on the same time, so we were talking about this, we were sort of joking about the fact that it was the most, it was awful. But then there's a part of you thinking, both of us being like, is this it? Like you're trying to do stand up and Chris Hughes is absolutely fucking roofing it and you're going up with your bit to absolute silence. Was that was a show called Christmas Run? Yeah, I literally done it and I felt sick afterwards and I've not really ever thought about it since until that moment. Well, I had, I remember like doing Cats,

Eight Out Of Ten Cats, first time I did that. It's like such a big show and like, see Sean Lock was such a legend. I mean, just like so funny. And you just go on that show shitting yourself because you're like, this one, your first, my first appearance on Eight Out Of Ten Cats. And we're doing something like, and Joey Essex is on there, and like you do this like long sort of bit

of, this bit that you've kind of thought about a bit, and it goes to absolutely fuck all. And then Joey Essex goes, is it a banana? And just gets a fucking round of applause and just go, well you know, I mean this is like, this is absolutely the best. I mean, this is like, this is an absolute disaster. You've got a whole bit of secrets and nuance and, and then Kem's like, what's the fucking deal with Minz pies? Yeah. They're disgusting. I'm not, I'm not trying to be disparaging about Joey. No, no, no.

What he does is great. Do you know what I mean? It's like, it's just. Yeah, but I think I've got no problem with them. I think that they're doing what they're doing there and they're the coin. But I think it's just that absolute thing of going like you're sitting there writing stuff. And then I think a lot of it as well is that they're having stuff written for them. And then as a comedian, you've got this sort of thing where you try to, you know, there's no writers on a show like that. It's very sort of like I even went and watched the trailer of it and was like oh my god this is something for me to tuck into

by the way sorry i think at some point we're gonna have to and i don't this is the other thing i was just thinking about my dms as you were sort of showing it. The ray gun thing is... I am gonna say this now. I've got a message from someone, a school friend of hers. Yeah I know it seems like it's... so a school friend of hers messaged me and was saying everything that we said in the... like obviously the first episode we were sort of half sticking up for her then we had some other disparaging stuff and then we listened to probably what was the mass media and TikTok and whatever and then we then came up with another opinion and then I've had like a message from someone who knows her and it was actually sort of very nice message, it was very respectful but it was also kind of like yeah this sort of narrative isn't right and

it doesn't feel so on that I think me and you're both gonna have to hold our hands pull up our big boy pants and say we've got no idea about what's going on with this I think what was quite sort of like I hope genuinely she's okay and then because it's a lot she's getting a lot of hate that seems that yeah so we we we talked about Raegun and we well you summarized it quite well we started off fairlyagon and we, well, you summarise it quite well. We started off fairly positive and then we heard this other stuff. Anyway, so who is this person that knows Ragon?

So someone who went to school with her and they've not been by the way, they've been very respectful and they've been very, they've just basically said that what the information we sent in the last podcast was wasn't wasn't correct. So what is correct? Did she say? It was a him by the way. Yeah, she's obviously yeah. So yeah. Yeah. What does that mean?

The way you responded to it was like it was a transgender person or was dead naming. No, I'm just saying, it was just the way you sort of zoned in on, it had to be a woman, it was a guy. I didn't say it had to be a woman. I'm, I'm... Yeah, this is, alright, okay, you went, you carried on the fucking holiday one, which is sort of like, your joke's about Leesh, and you're like, oh, what did she say? Yeah. Look, okay, okay, what did this bitch say then? Just tell me.

No, go on, what did he say? It was an eloquently and beautifully written message, which is kindly considered. But they were basically saying that, yeah, there's sort of, a lot of this stuff that we talked about in the last podcast wasn't right. Look, I think what's happened here is me and you have both hopped onto, like we've both got carried you have both hopped onto... It's my fault. It's my fault. No, no, no, no, it's both our fault because

neither of us said well well enough and we've kind of sort of done... We've actually done the thing that we joked about in the first example where we were to say about TikTok and how toxic that can be and then we followed the narrative from TikTok, cast our own dispersions, sort of almost made that fact for a lot of listeners. And then now we're paying the price for this because we don't even got a fucking clue. Well, are we paying a price? Because, okay, look, the truth is

we have done everything you've just said, but now once again, you're falling to the victim of assuming that whatever Ray Gunn's friend is saying is now correct. No, no, no, no, no, no. If I'm honest, assuming that whatever Ray Gunn's friend is saying is now correct. No no no no, if I'm honest I messaged Ray Gunn's friend back and I said there's no way, no one if you've caused any offence we're really really sorry I can only apologize we should do better but it's very really it's difficult to know what's and that is this is the problem we have when we're talking this

is probably why when you get two idiots having a podcast this is a podcast. This is why I can sit here and wrench you about being a bit of a prick at breakfast, right? Because you're telling me that. And you can sit here and rinse me about my fucking knowledge of wasps, because I've fucking shown myself to be a fool, right? But when you're bringing other people into context, I guess it's quite difficult to do that at times. No.

And I suppose that's in the modern world in which we live. It's quite a difficult thing to, you know, and I think again, we've because, you know, let's be quite honest, like this whole ray gun thing is is spiralled into places. We all thought, oh, I fucking a dancer was wasn't great, whatever. And then, you know, and then all of a sudden it's spiralled into something that feels sort of so completely different. But what we said on the show last week has been debunked apparently.

So what we said, I'm not going to repeat what we suggested because it's probably going to make it worse. It'd be like, art attack all over again. But what basically what we said last week. Nice segues by the way. By the way, someone else sent me a thing of the you crewed up for our attack by the way Yeah, it's not for our attack It's not for our attack It's an art show for kids Yeah, my god

Anyway, the ray gun thing what the facts are is the performance was what it was and now breaking, break dancing is never gonna be, it's not gonna be the Olympics again. I mean, those are the facts. We can't put that all on rake. We can't put that all on rake. No, no, I didn't, I wasn't, I wasn't. I'm just saying those things happen.

I'm not saying there's anything causal about that. And obviously, I don't know what this person said to you in this message, but you've really changed your whole the whole manners different and the whole sort of vibes different. No no I always feel bad if we've offended someone like you know as I walk through life by the way as quite as someone who makes assumptions and says stupid stuff and then yeah yeah well I'm gonna say this now I am sorry and I'm not only apologizing to Reagan and her friend and her husband and her husband. Yeah, okay. I'm apologizing to you, Tom. We

never would have talked about Reagan on this podcast if it wasn't for me. So I'm sorry. No, but I never have known. I'm sorry. So but also this is the look. Can I just say these are the things in life that we, hence we learn from or we don't. And this is a lesson. It's a lesson when we're giving these people information, we're passing on your knowledge or my knowledge, you know, we've got to be open-ended. Yeah, so I do think it's a lesson to us that like, rather than just blindly commenting, just to actually be well informed so that like, rather than just blindly commenting, just to actually be well informed

so that you feel comfortable enough to have a take on it. And that is what we will do going forward. So anyway. We had a weird moment yesterday where, to the subject here, Kathy went out with friends yesterday, little chilled vibe, I was with little G at the house. We had a rainstorm here that was phenomenal.

So we do chilled stuff, we do a bit of painting, play dough, all that sort of stuff. Then like three o'clock comes my FPL's coming in, so I'm like, we'll chill for a bit and we'll watch football scores coming. And you know, get the football on. Grishkrais quite enjoyed, sit, have some warm minutes together.

And then Catherine sends me a, she said, what are you doing? I said, I'm just watching football scores coming in. And then she sends me a video of how to clean an air fryer. I was like, wow, like, and then I sort of thought, I've made a joke with her. I was like, is this a hit? And then she sort of put a smiley face back. And then I said, how depressing must it be for Catherine to,

you know, if you don't mind me sort of extrapolating from the story, you've obviously not cleaned the air fryer once since you've got it. And you've been talking about it. Oh no, I've been there. No, no, no, but have you got air fryers? No. You got air fryers?

Yeah, they're little fuckers. There's some hard toil and trice that goes into cleaning an air fryer. Yeah, okay. Let's not unpack what trice means in your head. But anyway, so into cleaning an air fryer. Yeah, okay. Let's not unpack what trice means in your head. But anyway, so you got the air fryer, not clean it properly. And then Catherine says to herself, I'm going to send him a video on how to clean it properly because he doesn't ever clean it properly.

She's out with people. I'm like, why are you sending this now? Did you have an argument about it? No, no, no, no. No, this is what happened. I sit there, I watched the first half of the results come in, I go to clean them, realise we haven't got any bicarbonate soda, so then me and Grace walk to the shops, we get some bicarbonate soda and quite, you know, there's a break in the road. We didn't get back and then I

cleaned them. This morning though was an amazing moment because Catherine walked up to me and said, oh my God, the air fryer trays are incredible. This they're amazing. They're like brand new. For a million bucks. Did you would you have a million bucks? Actually not said that. I know I've think you haven't noticed and you know, this is a weird thing about relationships. Well, is when you do a bit of therapy, right couples therapy therapy, real recognising and realising

stuff that the other one has done is one of the most important things when it comes to our relationship. So that sounds like a very easy thing, right, but actually turning around and saying oh you've done this or you've done that to each other, oh that's a really nice thing that you did, which actually by the way is another thing that you learn, I don't know, you'll know it's better than me because you've got three kids, but I'm learning with Grace is if you actually say to her, oh, it's amazing that you've done this thing or that thing, or like, and actually say what she's done.

You then realize, oh, actually, rather than just going, oh, nice one, cool, and not actually, like when you're saying thank you, or you're actually describing how that makes you feel to your kid is actually, and you're actually, you or you're you're you know actually describing how that makes you feel to to your kid is actually You know, you know what that makes it's like like this right like today is a genuine joy I miss you every time I'm not around you Right as much as you think that that is some sort of no, but I do I like I get it up I always believe this podcast no matter how it sounds to listeners

But I was lately if in fulfilled as human beings just better But time someone I adore and I love and sometimes I know that you think when I'm joking and I'm taking a mic Like if I just enjoy your your aura You hate me making from very sick to that. Yeah This is this is you know what you've done there You've got the boundaries because it makes you only easy that I'm thanking you because I think you're incredible No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I would say more commonly than any other type, our standup and our humor in general is the punchline is us.

However different our styles of comedy are, I would say the thing that they have in common is that the butt of the joke more often than not is us. More often than not, not all the time, but self-deprecation, right? Bruce Lee, there's a quote I saw by Bruce Lee that said, don't talk negatively about yourself, even as a joke, your mind and body don't know the difference. And I just thought to myself, what have I done? Like, I mean, I don't know what this has

fucking done to me I Pay for my weekly shop being a dick about myself Say if given a chance and this is no disparity because I think Bruce Lee's incredible martial arts an incredible filmmaker Give it a chance in a couple parts with your Bruce Lee. I'm picking you. I Can't think of anything worse than sitting with someone who can't. Not if it gets hairy. Not if something kicks off you. Yeah, well most likely the chance is yeah. I mean I'll have to dig in and sort of like be the Bruce Lee in the relationship. I will say this by the way, I find that with a lot of sports people when

you're around them, like they don't get the fact that like, it's almost like they see it as they are being chinked to their armor. I remember when we did soccer eight and I remember a number of footballers I make jokes about myself constantly and how shit I was at football or you know whatever joke about you know the size of the size of my small penis or whatever just I'd make a joke about myself because I found that you know that's probably you's got its own sort of negative against psychological aspect. But they could like three of them pull me up.

Or like as for a one-to-one chat to say, do you hate yourself? I was like, no, I don't hate myself. I find my patheticness inherently amusing, but. Yeah. I don't dislike myself. The truth is, I think I'm pathetic and I've had to find a way to monetise it. You know, that is...

You have to also, like knowing you, and not as long as you, because I you know you post-comedy comedian but knowing you and me I was pathetic from birth it wasn't something that you know I was dealing with a lot of patheticness until I... Every now and again and this is not I don't think I've talked about this but every now and again I think back to even now in my 40s right I think back to something I did as a kid, reacting purely on instinct, that I think to myself, you really, at your core, you're tragic. Show me, that's not nurture, that's not a product of circumstances

or consequence of my upbringing. Just, I've reacted purely from my soul, and it's been, it's been fucking crazy. Did I tell you about the, so look, this is, you know when you get like a look at your like, almost out of body experience, so at the office we've got a group of younger people who work for our company, I'm sure like you do as well, like, and then you know, they sort of, they work for us, lovely group of people, like, you know, but

you know, they're in their twenties, they're sort of like, you know, they're young enough to be my like, kids, but you know, you sort of have that thing where you're like, you know, uh, but they're in their twenties. They're sort of like, you know, they're, they're young enough to be my like kids, but you know, that you sort of have that thing where you're like, just trying to be their mate a bit and try to remember. They do not see like that at all. No, no, because you're the number one, you're the boss. And number two, you are in your 40s. Yeah. You're not, you're not even, you're not the same.

You're not the same. You're not even the same. You're not even in the same umbrella of creature. Yeah. Anyway, go on, sorry, I interrupted you. So they're in the kitchen, water calling, they're sort of having a chat and whatever, sort of. And I go in to make myself a coffee and I'm sort of, this is where I like the difference between me and you

and you're a bit more like, you have got, James Defon doesn't fall into this, James is very quick in like, he'll say hello and he'll walk out, right? And you've got that vibe to you. I'm standing there making a coffee, then I'm holding the coffee. Anyway, they were talking about Brickstone, they were going to watch a concert in Brixton.

They were talking about, yeah, we're gonna go to Brixton and they're talking about where they're gonna go to eat. And I'm like, yeah, we're gonna go to Brixton and that's all about where they're gonna go to eat. And I'm like, yeah, Brixton, huh? Like when I was younger, you would not be going to Brixton. I had family there, but it was pretty, pretty rough. And then that's sort of like, this is genuine, it makes you feel sick even thinking about it. And then I went, of course, not now. Brixton is pretty cool and hip. I said the words cool and hip

and all of them just stared at me. Like, not with Ed, they're a lovely group, it was genuinely sympathy in their eyes. And I stood there with this mug of tea, or coffee, sorry, and I'm just sort of smiling to myself thinking, oh, what did you say, cool and hip, you fucking idiot. And one of them went, oh, no, yeah it's cool and yeah and then and then one of the others were

like and it's cool and here and they would like try to make me feel better about myself and then I completely David Brent in it I went nice one see see in a bit yeah and then sort of walked out. Just tell me as you walked out did you stop at there and go where, where your car shot? And then just head off to the rest of your day? Well, to be fair, at least that would have been like, completely like, no, I walked out, I went into the office, and James looked at me and went, what the fuck was that?

And I was like, what do you mean? He went, why did you stand and say? And after St. Coulan hip, I guarantee there was at least a 30 second pause pause when none of us it was like a standoff in a fucking Western like like none of us said anything I just sort of stood there with a massive goofy grin going yeah it was awful man oh this is this this rolls onto this by the way right so I like the idea you've got into your 40s and you've sort of got an air of cool. Can I say we had someone do knock and run on our house the other morning at midnight. My god. Right. So it's midnight, me and Catherine are in bed, we're asleep, bang, bang, bang, bang on the door. I think that someone's coming through the front door. I run to the sort of front of the house, open

a window and I go, hey, like that, so thick. Oh, Tom. And then I see these three lads running off and they're in their, I don't know, 14, 15, Theo sort of age. And one of them goes, wanker! And then just runs off, right? I didn't get into bed, right? And Catherine's quite shaken by this because all she's heard is the banging,

and the banging on the door was full on, man. It wasn't cool. It was like, you know, it's like someone's kicked the door. Yeah, I don't know you're're wrong but it's out of order. Yeah and Catherine's like are you okay? She was a bit shaken by it and then I'm like no it's fine it's cool with kids whatever looks on the security cameras and whatever just you know because you are like yeah it's dark and then I lay in bed and she went she fell asleep and I lay in bed I reckon for at least half an hour

45 minutes, just thinking I used to do that to people's houses as a part of a, just as a follower, as a sheep when people go, I'll just bang on someone's door. And it was always the person's door they bang on, we'd go, oh mate, can you imagine like this fucking idiot trying to chase us or like this, oh we've got this douchebag who lives at number 23 or whatever. Like the more like leader of the group, right? And you just go along because you're a pathetic fucking sheep of the group. And now I'm like,

am I that guy? All I can think of is like, if you're building a character in a TV show, I'm the guy standing in the kitchen holding a mug of coffee going hip and cool. And then I'm a guy that they're going, yeah, I'm like, have I just become like a fucking sad old four year old? Are you sure it wasn't that group you spoke to in the kitchen? No, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, that would be terrible because they're going yeah I'm like have I just become like a fucking sad old four-year-old. Are you sure it wasn't that great you spoke to in the kitchen? No yeah I mean I wouldn't be surprised I mean that would be terrible because they live in East London and they'd have to drive that fucking an hour and a half to get to my house. Worth it though. This is a big thing to do on a Wednesday night yeah but can you

imagine a fucking losers face? Yeah say you see how fucking hip and cool He finds that twat old wanker I think I think whenever you watch people that are of a certain age who asked considered cool It's because they don't try and meet people wherever they are. They just like do you know? Yeah, they're just that's what DeFront probably does he's in his 40s he behaves as if he's in his 40s he's not trying to come across as like he's not trying to use any words that aren't in his regular vocabulary to try and be you know what I mean

to try and be hip and cool and funky and with it do you know what I mean so yeah yeah and we're using words like funky hip with it. Yeah That we were we weren't even using when we were Suddenly start weirdly say more old-fashioned stuff like so what are you groovy cats up to? That will they say when you were young no, no, no, they say in the 60s and stuff So I don't know why the fuck I've said that I'm being ironic Yeah, I'm just gonna go to the toilet now. If you hear any sobbing from cubicle one that isn't me that's just a coincidence.

Anyway see you later cool cats, keep it funky. When's that guy come by the office he doesn't even work here. Right Tom it's about that time man it is about that time. What do you think of this episode by the way? Well it's been quite difficult because of the incessant pausing and the fact that you have, sometimes I can talk for another 25, 30 seconds with you pause thinking that you're doing your sort of,

like, cool sort of thing. One of my sort of comedic things, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I actually can be quite good to you. For mine, there's already five things that I've said that I'm gonna immediately text JT to remove They still do not the phone still do the Phone's not even in shot, but I'm looking at it. I'm trying to pick out my I'm trying to pick out my song for um,

Well, you pick out so much as trying to work out I'm done. I picked it. I picked it I always have I always have a lot one or two I'm gonna choose between and then normally the middle of one of your fucking meandering rants. I didn't make the final decision But anyway gone hmm Wow friends Is that it summer over?

Bare feet on the sand Look I see across your body as you delve into the salty madness. Umbrellas, they aren't really umbrellas, they're summer umbrellas like a parasol. Those little gate things that you wrap around your family to keep them away from bees and wasps just to have a solemn picnic where you all sit around with sand in your bread. The discussions of what you're gonna do that evening hopefully the weather will hold out. I hope so John. God bless you both. Ice creams and meandering thoughts.

Clouds that look like faces or dogs or sometimes at last a horse. True it is that summers go by so quick and before you know it it's autumn again. Wind is around the corner friend. Hey you know it, it's autumn again. Winter's around the corner, friend. Hey, you got your Christmas tree up yet? And that's the thing, time flies. Just flies and flies. And the older you get, the quicker it goes. It's kind of crazy.

It's almost like someone ramps up the sand machine, egg timer, as such. And before you know it, instead of just a tiny little gap, it's an open one that just descends sand quicker and quicker and quicker and before you know it you're making your last rites and you're high-fiving a couple of people in the queue for heaven hopefully you get there what do you think you said thing when you stand

out there did i make the most of the summers those autumns as the leaves fell did i notice their crispy frames upon the floor did i look at a branch empty of leaves and say hey thanks for keeping us shady this summer? Probably not. But reason you even recognise it at all? Because there's something else going on. And I guess that's the truth. Time flickers by so fast. The main thing is to make time last. And that's the message for us all. As this autumn comes round and Christmas taps us on the shoulder, I want you all to go, hey snowman, hey Santa Claus, you know what? I'll just slow this month down just a little bit and try to take advantage of time.

Lovely. Really, really nice. Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. Time can sometimes fly, didn't June that? OK. Could we please? Zing King is back. Off the ropes on a holiday special. A little bit of House this week.

Hard Soul. Wow. Victory, Ron Carroll with Back Together, please, JT. I love this song. A nice end of summer vibe. Guys thank you so much for listening. Apologies once again to Ray Gunn's friend and any of you that are sort of upset by our misinformation there. I apologize for that. Make sure you check out Tom's Special Underdog available on Sky right now. Also Robin Rums starting tonight. Yes, watch if you want. Okay guys take care, see you soon. Bye.

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