Wolf and Owl - S3 Ep 50: Friday Bonus & Loads Of Swearing

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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Oh, lovely. So he'd be a sloth as well, I'd imagine. I mean, it could be interspecies. What would a sloth marry? Koala. Really? Yeah. Koalas, they're not around at all anymore. What do you mean? I think you're thinking of Dodos.

Koalas are very much with us. Oh, yeah every time when a comedian goes over to Australia They always post a picture of them hugging a koala. Don't know really I thought you can say yeah. Yeah I mean, I don't know how well they're you're gonna to Australia. You're gonna get a picture of you. No No, but a way shout out by the way because any eagle-eyed Listener will see that you've like announced your European. You're fucking covering the whole of Europe I'm not the whole of Europe. It's insane the amount of international you're an international comedian now, by the way You see you that's incredible shout by the way If you're at the stream round of applause to Ramesh Ranganathan Hold on, hold on, hold on. It's not incredible to have to put the shows on, is it?

What if nobody turns up? Everyone's gonna turn up. Can I just say people internationally really love you? How do you know that? I just got a feeling man. Yeah, I just got a feeling. I'm proud to know you. It is gonna be the show, if anybody's worried, the show is going to be in whatever language of the country that I'm visiting, so. Just quickly, how are- Sprigancey Hassle. So are you, do you have like an interpreter there no I don't know don't think so that's quite interesting mmm I actually want to come to one of European shows well I did a gig in Norway a while ago didn't even change my

pace it was absolutely fine really yeah you got quite a nice sort of like rhythmic tone though, didn't you? Do you think so? Yeah, and also Scandinavians like English they speak as well as any of their dialects Yeah, can I just you know, like people that post content on Instagram. I Posted a clip of stand-up there. Well, I didn't Charlie shout Charlie the guy that posted stuff on me It's agonizing as soon as it it goes out you just go, oh I posted that shit. I thought it was a really good bit. The bit of stand up you did the other day. Yeah, but it's agonizing.

About the B-Day. Yeah, it's horrible. Hey Wolf, Al Cat and Swan. Love your podcast. Listening to you chat cheers me right up. No, she didn't say right up. Cheers me up every week. I've got my husband into it. We listen together sometimes too. Every week we always ask the other one whether we've listened yet. We have loads to laugh about. That's nice, that's nice.

It's lovely, isn't it? It's really, yeah. Anyway, a question for you both. We've recently become ice bath wankers. We bought a small portable ice bath and love taking a dip in the morning to wake us up. However, we're quite perplexed. The water goes a bit funny after a few days

and the bottom goes slightly slimy, which isn't nice. We're having to empty and clean the cold plunge and refill every few days. We've thought about putting chlorine in it to keep it clean but doesn't that defeat the object? We don't want to waste water every few days filling up and emptying and also can't be asked to clean it this often either. In the winter it'll be a right pain. Any tips on keeping the water clean? Oh and cheap ways to keep it cold. Buying ice is becoming a daily necessity to keep the temp down. Thanks for reading. Love the sassy? Oh and cheap ways to keep it cold buying ice is becoming a daily necessity to keep the temp Down thanks for reading love the sassy sloth and a hubby

Okay, I jump in here cuz I Number one, it's the chemical you put in it I I was like you I was worried about Putting chlorine in but also I was getting annoyed by having to change the water all the time. So I'm just gonna find out the name of it. So I don't misstere you. I think chlorine in here, but I've got something else. I mean, I do put Epsom salts in. Yeah, that doesn't clean the water though, does it?

No, no, I'm just trying to buy time. It's like saying you put a bit of Tabasco in. Oh yeah, bromine. So what? Bromine. Yeah, bromine. So bromine is what I put into the ice bath. Yeah. Rob is just tariffing away, so he smiled when I said bromine.

No. So bromine is what I've been putting into it. As a chemical to keep it clean. I have no solution by the way because all of these brands tell you that the water remains cold, they're all lying. None of it, unless you get an actual filter in yours, which costs a fortune, none of them stay cold. Essentially, by the time, if during the summer you get in there and it's like an old warm bit of soup, you've got to keep on changing the water and sadly even what I did start doing is just getting old Bottles of water and freezing those overnight and then just put them in the ice bath with me

So you just throw the bottles in yeah, okay instead of buying loads of other ones you're buying two bags of ice a day Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah I know that you've got something to say There's no smirk, okay Bromine can be used in ice baths to sanitize the water more fret skin friendly than chlorine and last longer in cold water Okay, so there you go. Okay, not effective in water temperatures below 24 degrees. It says Can cause skin on eye irritation. Yeah, I don't put my head underneath now. Because of that?

Yeah, yeah. What does it do to your skin? I don't know. My skin's been fine. You know the big worry is if you fart in the cold pool, have you got to change the water? Why? No, because like fart particles. I'm really obsessed with poo particles at the moment. Every time you fart little poo particles come out your butt, right?

Yeah. So, you know, do you close your toilet lid when you flush your chain? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've only learned that in the last few years. Okay. That's horrible. Have you changed your toothbrushes since you found out? Yeah, of course. How often do you change your toothbrush? Well, I use an electric toothbrush. Yeah, but how often do you change its head? Probably, I don't know, whenever it starts to get a bit worn out. Yeah, but mine literally I use it for four days and then it looks like it's cleaned.

How much pressure are you applying? Quite a lot, yeah. Like the little red light comes on quite a lot. Yeah, that's bad, you're not supposed to activate that. Yeah, I know, yeah. I actually don't, yeah, I didn't think it was that bad but now I realize on quite a lot. Yeah, that's bad. You're not supposed to activate that. Yeah, I know, yeah. And I actually don't, yeah. I didn't think it was that bad, but now I realize how bad it is.

Yeah. Yeah. My dental hygiene needs to, you know, I brush my teeth twice, three times a day, but I need to, also now I'm worried about my visor line. Sometimes twice is what I'm taking from that. My visor line, I need to get back on that horse. Right, okay, me too. Okay, well listen, sassy sloth, hope that helps. Yeah, and by the way, enjoy it. Welcome to the club of ice bathers.

We are a selective and fun breed. Okay, this is... By the way, your ice bath I brought you, what's that? It's in the box. Pardon? The ice bath I brought you. It's great. How many times have you used it? Three, four times. You're such a liar. Why? How's you used it? Three, four times? You're such a liar. Why? Why?

Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? OK, this one, the Waffling Wombat. Waffling Wombat. It's quite long.

Hi, Wolf, Ass, Swan, and Cat. First of all, let me say I'm a massive fan of the pod. I've listened to every episode caught up pretty quickly. So refreshing to get to blokes. Get to blokes who I think of as really cool, decent guys chatting about mental health wobbles. I'm due to marry my beautiful partner and mother to my kids, the Goose, this year, which obviously means, among other things, stag do. Tom's a big fan of stag dos.

I've been to having kids a few years ago. I was very much like Tom's previous mentioning, King Stag Do, first name of the team sheet. Now I find myself quiet, worried about what others think, and have somehow developed an anxiety disorder. The stag do weighs on my mind heavily at the inevitable stitch ups. I've overheard conversations of dressing me up when we go away to another city, and the idea of not being in my own clothes for days in a different place really fills me with dread. And since having children I already find it hard to blend in with my friends,

the thing I don't want is to be alienated even more. I just want to be part of the pack, not the laughing stock. I know this comes from a place of love and endearment from my mates. And then make in an effort, which is what I've craved for the last few years. But I don't think they realise how much this will affect me mentally. I'm really not comfortable talking about my struggles and anxiety attacks. And overthinking things in my friendship group is very much Jack the Lad based. Something which was a part of me, but seems to be less and less lately due to overthinking and occasional panic.

Also, I'm supposed to not know anything about it, as it's a surprise, so I don't want to let on that in another single detail. Also, the fact I know that they probably either had a whip around for different costumes and spent their own time and money, not to mention paying to go away to start with. I feel obliged to just go along with whatever's planned, but at what cost? How do I approach this? Because I say something prior to the trip, it will dampen the whole thing because everyone will worry about what they can and can't say around or do around without me crying about it. Worse being on the stag and losing my shit with one other than once I've had enough of this bollocks.

More importantly, what I'm worried about, how do I avoid having a panic attack in an airport dressing what I can only assume will be a gimp suit with a dildo take to my head and going up viral, ending up going up viral online. Love the pod, the Waffling Wombat. Tom Davies. Well, um... Thank you for your email Waffling Wombat. Tom Davis. Well. Thank you for your email Waffling Wombat. Yeah, yeah. It's a very difficult one this because I sort of whilst talking about being Kingstag

and myself feeling like this, also went through your scenario when I got married myself. So I sympathise with you. I also recently went on a lads trip and I found myself worrying a lot about it and also going along and I'm feeling like I'm not, my life's changed, I've changed as a person, I didn't feel necessarily like I was a part of a lot of the sort of banter and a lot of the stuff going on.

What I will say is I think actually being quite honest about that and actually saying how you feel to people is a good thing to do. Because actually what you will learn is how many people are actually empathetic to where you are in your life and how you're feeling and how many people aren't. I think all of us, I think it's a bit of a male trait, is that we'll all pretend that we're all involved, we all want that banner. And actually quite a lot of the time, if you stand up above the parapet and say, oh, I shouldn't really fit in this, quite a lot of people go, either am I actually.

And I think the people that don't quite a lot of the time believe, I guess, that there is some sort of... Like, you know, this thing, the whole thing about stag dudes and the whole thing about the lads, lads, lads is, I think some people almost feel that once that goes, who do that? It's the sense of identity within a lot of people and a lot of us all. I certainly, I think, probably hid behind that for a long part of my life. So I think it's actually quite refreshing when someone turns around and says that. And I think the thought of you being uncomfortable and you not feeling you're going to enjoy

what should be a really enjoyable time. I remember when on my stag day there were certain things, some of my mates were like, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. And I was like, I'm not doing that. That's just not happening. I have non-negotiables and I have things that I'm up for and I'll have a laugh with and I have things that I just, that's not me. And as lads do, they try to goad you and they try to wind you up about it, but it's like,

your character has to be like, this is the line to cross and I don't want to cross it. And I think the fact is that actually for you, I think it's just being, you seem like, although there's a lot of this stuff that's based around anxiety and a lot of stuff that's based around worry, actually a lot of this is growth. And it's you're growing, you're a dad, you're about to be married to your beautiful fiance,

you've found a happy place in your life and you've probably outgrown some of these people. And I think that the truth is actually, one of the sad things in life is that happens to us all. I think some people are quite happy just going, this is all I am in life is that that happens to us all. I think some people are quite happy just going, this is all I am, this is all I am. And then others are, you find yourself going, this is something I don't find interesting, this is something I don't want to do anymore. And I think you should be just honest. I think you should

just say that that is a non-negotiable, you don't feel comfortable doing it and you don't want to do it. And if they make a big issue out of it, that's on them. So, you know, that's my own personal opinion on it. That's how I acted with a few things of late and probably that's something, you know, look at yourself. But anyway, congratulations, best of luck and yeah, keep doing your friend. Congratulations waffling Wombat. I'm sorry that you've gone, you're going through a little bit of anxiety about this.

But I think, look, however Jack the lad your friendship group is, in my opinion, they want you to be happy. And so I think it's a matter of having a chat with them and explaining what the situation is in that there's certain things, like Tom said, explaining what the situation is in that there's certain things, like Tom said, non-negotiables, that there's certain things you're happy to do

and certain things you're not happy to do. What I would say is there might be certain things that you wanna rule out that actually might be a laugh. So it's probably worth having to think about what you feel comfortable about and what you don't. And if that means that you just want it to be completely, there is no dressing up, et cetera, I mean, I would hate any of that shit, to be honest with you.

I just think you need to be clear. It doesn't matter if they've gone to trouble to organize something or whatever. The fact of the matter is, the point of the stag deer is for you to have a nice time. It's become a little bit of a humiliation ritual, and some people enjoy that, and some people like being center of attention in that way, but not everyone does and it's totally fine to not be to not want that so I'll just say to them this is what this is what I'm cool with and this is what I'm not cool with and if they're your friends which it sounds like they are and you're like a tight-knit group they'll respect it I would if like if I was going on a stag do I've been on

stag do things where and like Tom sort of hit the nail on the head with sometimes you go oh god thank god somebody else has said it well like you look at the whatsapp group or ever you think fuck you now This sounds horrendous, but this is what the group seems to want and there's somebody guys I should we just turn it down a bit and then you go yes, please So I won't worry about it too much I would just but I would be clear about what it is you're after and You know at the end of the day they're trying to make this a nice time for you Some people sit as like this last

Harass being like whatever Misbehaving or whatever, but not it doesn't have to be that it can be whatever you want it to be nice Yeah, yeah, just a nice bit of time away. Yeah as Tom's one was I don't know I wasn't invited but Well, I'm not sure cut raucous, but yeah, yeah Yeah, you just walk free Berlin butt naked painted, butt naked, painted red, didn't you? Yeah, but that was my own choice. And then you turned up to the stag day. Waka waka waka!

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Hi Wolf Allen, what are you sniggering at? I like that name. Okay. Thanks for the countless laughs, you both kept me sane while I worked from home. I'm 40 this year. Whoa. And I kind of thinking about the choices I've made

to get me to this point. I'm a creative person, I always thought that something I've made would always have an impact in this world. I don't know why I've ever thought this would happen as I was super lazy Fast forward 20 years and I'm a dad of twins seven-year-old boys must be calmer for my laziness I've got an okay job at an animal charity get the occasional opportunity to do photos or video which I love doing I feel like the opportunity to make something cool might have passed me by Living in a small coastal town in Devon mostly surrounded by pensioners makes it more challenging

Then I was listening to an old ep and in it you and Tom were talking about having your shot in life. Rom, I think you said a professional footballer moved to London and you got in contact to hang out. Oh yeah, Nicholas and Elka. God. This is my moment. It makes me uncomfortable just trying to write this because I'm not the type of person that... This is not the type of person I am. If either of you sweet, sweet souls are making a television show I'd love the opportunity to be an extra or take behind-the-scenes photos. It would be

amazing to be part of this creative process and it means the world to me. My less selfish question was when you were 40 what goals did you have and have you reached any of them yet? Thanks for the pod. Rich the ring-tailed lemur. You're rich! You're rich! You've made two amazing creations in your twins, by the way. How do you know that? Well, I think every child is born with a miracle name. Forgive me, forgive me. I went in. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're all sort of like leathery. You pulled your belt out round your fucking... Regret! Regret! ...around your waist and flipped it at me. Like a snake slithering through the grass. Anyway, this isn't about Ramesh as much as he wants it to be. It's about you, Rich. Listen, this isn't about Ramesh as much as he wants it to be, it's about you Rich. Listen bro, I'm going to tell you now,

hand on heart, stay in touch. If I'm ever lucky enough again to film anything or have that call, then I'd love you to come along, do a day's extra work, Ramesh can verify it's a laugh. We have a laugh at the extras, right? Yeah, I don't know if that's what Rich wants really. Or come and do the pictures, Rich. Look, you're part of the Animal Pack, and for me that means you're part of family. You're my kin, you're my friend, God bless you, sir.

What are my dreams and aspirations at 40? Can't really remember what I'd sort of, I guess it was like, yeah, I think I tried to set myself all the time, all the time was setting different goals and different things and trying to, both personally and professionally tried to, you know, in a sort of series, I guess personal evolution is trying to sort of grow as a person, whatever that may be.

I think I probably have more things that, like you're talking about, is sort of trying to create or trying to make stuff that sort of lasts as any kind of legacy or stuff that you're gonna leave behind. But if I'm quite honest, I think at 40, the thing that I wanted to be most of all was a dad. And I think that's the thing that I'm proudest of. That's the thing that I've done since and for a long time didn't seem it was going to happen. So that's probably the thing that I'd set myself apart from that. I sort of

think it's good to have those goals. But also it's like, you talk about 40, almost like it's a cutting off. And I think like, you can like, you can still do amazing things. You can still, and I think it's also, we have this idea of like, creating things that have to be seen by millions or loads of people to have any kind of lasting impact. And like, my mum, for example, will paint and she paints every day since she's retired. She finds that the things she enjoys and she'll put her pictures up on Instagram sometimes and a few family members will like them. That's enough for her. It's not the high end creative thing, but she's creating something and she gets a kick out of it and she's enjoying it.

I think actually it's like when you make something, it's your own self of pride that you followed saying through and you got that thing done. And actually I think that's as big as anything really. I think like when I look back and think like I spent a lot of my life and probably one which was the same of going, oh, I might try and do this thing and then starting it and never following it through because I didn't you know, whatever just didn't Didn't finish it and and I don't have the weather all I didn't believe in it enough

and actually every time I finish any sort of work whether it's stand-up or it's um, You know like a sitcom or saying I think always that thing of just finishing something that yeah That's on you and that's saying pretty amazing. Obviously everything that might come with that and how many people see it, that's an added bonus. But actually just for yourself following through saying, oh, I've done that, I started it and now I've finished it, that's enough. And even if it's just your wife and your kids see it and they enjoy it, then that should be enough, man. Wise words from Tommy Day. Really good. Rich, equally, look, if you want to be an SA or an extra, take behind the scenes photos, that's something you really want to do.

Be great if it's a project of mine and yours together. Yeah, if we came to like a wolf and elf, it'd be amazing if it was like a... Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we'll bear that in mind. Look, if you want to do something creative, that's great, right? And if that's something you've always wanted to do, that's amazing. What I've slightly saddened about is you thinking that what you're doing currently is like a life unlived. Do you know what I mean?

The truth of it is, you're doing an amazing, you're bringing up twins, you're working for a charity, man. Do you know what I mean? It's like you're contributing to society, you're doing an amazing thing. And I think, you know, there is part of me, there are times when I'm reflecting on what I've done, and I think, you know, what I do for a living, and obviously life is not all about what you do for a living,

but I do think this is incredibly vacuous compared to something that you do. You know, that you do. What you do is you give something back. And I think that is something to be celebrated. And I feel like sometimes we get caught up in successes like putting something out there that loads of people know about or whatever. That should not be the be all and end all of what success is. Do you know what I mean? It's whatever your private thing is. And there's been some moments where I've thought about, I'm 46 now. I often have moments where I just

think, oh, I'm just going to jack this all in and do something else that I think is worthwhile. I have moments where I really, really do think that. And so I feel like part of that feeling that you're having is something that we all have, where you sort of think, you get to a certain age and you think, have I done what I'm supposed to be doing and whatever. Having said all of that, if you do want to do something different, why not go for it? There's no reason why you shouldn't. But do that knowing that it's not like you've not achieved already. You're doing amazing things.

What are you saying about Rich? Is he almost, he is maybe not a hero, he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Of who? I'm just saying Batman when he lived in the shadows. Did you just Google Batman? Yeah, I just Googled him. Right, about Batman, because it's in my head when we talk about Rich. Okay, fine.

That he's silently getting on with stuff, but actually he's a hero that we, not that we wanted, but we needed. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay. Yes, that's, so Rich, so rich your Batman I hope that helps But look, we love you rich one. We love you, bro Okay, should we do one more Just go for it. Oh that seems like you don't know. No, no, someone just message me quite sad sad text No, but not that sad, but yeah, I'm not gonna get into that but no

Yeah, do you want to carry on? Yeah, let's do it. No, no, no, it's not about me. It's just your face really dropped. No, no, it's not about me. All right, well, we'll leave that unexplained. I'm getting to this last email. Maybe cut that bit out, JT. Dear Wolf and Al, I've been asked to email you both by my two sons, the Capybara and

the Golden Lion. I love this, by the way. This just fills me full of joy. A family of animals. Yes, they've fallen in love with your book. They've fallen in love with your book. They've fallen in love with your book. They've fallen in love with your book.

They've fallen in love with your book. They've fallen in love with your book. They've fallen in love with your book. They've. I love this by the way. This just fills me for a joy. A family of animals. Yes, they've fallen in love with your podcast over the summer holiday. They're 11 and 9. Wow! Okay. As always, car journeys can be problematic with the two boys as they're either shouting, arguing or fighting in the car. This all stopped when I accidentally played your magnificent podcast. They enjoy the stories, non-stop laughs, and most of all the swearing. They even took a pebble home with them

from our recent trip to folk, okay, well I'd watch what they're doing with that, and has been safely stored in the freezer. The question is this, does using your podcast as a tool of peace for car journeys make me a bad father? Thank you for all the laughs. The cormorant. The cormorant, wow.

I'll tell you what, the exceedingly incredible knowledge of animals that your family have is absolutely, refreshingly beautiful. Sorry, Tom seems to have slipped into doing an advert for a soft drink for some reason. No, listen, if I'm going to be quite honest, it's dawned on me recently that I'm very nervous about my amount of swearing in the house. Me and Catherine have talked, Grace is now literally picking up word after word after word. Wasn't it you were saying to me, because you texted me the other day, saying she's picked

up loads of these racial slurs? Yeah, no, we've talked about those. I didn't know how she spoke to me on the phone the other day, if you don't mind me saying. Uncle Romy, bud bud ding ding. She does call you Uncle Rom, which is quite cute. That's very sweet. But yeah, anyway, I do worry about it.

But also, if I'm gonna be honest, it's very hard to hide away from that stuff. And you know what makes me smile? That your kids are getting a kick out of two of us at the podcast. If I'm gonna be honest, it's very hard to hide away from that stuff and I do know it makes me smile that you kids Are getting a kick out of two of us just the podcast I don't I don't judge you for playing I think is I think car journeys are tough and if I'm gonna be quite honest When when we do this this podcast? JT shout out JT get better soon. Love you G

He's got a cold at the moment He's got a cold at the moment. Well I think he's got more than a cold. But when JT sends us the clips and the animations, Grace loves watching them. And there is swearing in them sometimes, I've got to be careful. Well first of all, what an honour it is for us to be your parenting tool. I sort of am very chilled out about the swearing. I don't think it doesn't make you a bad parent. It's just fine, isn't it? You're quite cool when you say that.

You've got a cool vibe about you. Well, I had a bit of an embarrassing... So, do you know I was talking about... We were in the car the other day, me, Elise and the kids. This is really bad, this story. Okay, okay. So, I sort of... I'm not as careful as I should be about playing stuff with swearing into the kids. This is really bad this story. So I sort of, I'm not as careful as I should be about playing stuff with swearing into the kids. And Charlie, who is 10, said, can

you play that Tupac tune? And I said, which one? And he goes, oh, you know, I can't remember the name of it. And then how does it go? And then he goes, that's why I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker. Oh, wow. Jeez. Wow. Hit him up. Yeah. What? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That was a lot. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. Nice. I mean, I'm hoping he like, okay, imagine this. Little Gracie's nine or 10. Yeah. She has a friend around. Yeah. And you say to the kids, oh, do this. Little Gracie's nine or 10. Yeah. She has a friend around. Yeah. And you say to the kids, Oh, do you want some music on? Yeah.

And they go, yeah, I'd love that one. And one of the kid, the kid, you don't know, just come around and see Gray says, I love the one that goes, that's why I fucked your bitch. You fat motherfucker. It is an insane thing. Cause that's not just like that's, that's out of context. That's an awful thing. Yeah.

I mean, in context, it's not ideal. No, out of context. But. That's an awful. Yeah. I mean in context is not ideal No, our contact. So I also say an absolutely banging sure. Yeah sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean is I sort of said to him Did you say to him you can't say that out loud again? No What how did I was shocked did Lisa? What did Lisa do Lisa looked at me? Yeah Lisa looked at me like I just said that's why I fucked your bitch bitch You felt it's hard though isn't because if I'm honest with you What what year did um? the snoop the famous snoop album come out snoop dog album. Oh, what's my the

Doggie style. Yeah, 93. I think so. Yeah. Well, I'd have been me and you would have been 1314 yeah, I knew all that came out and I knew it all off bar. At that age, I mean it was two years older, but yeah, I was obsessed with that album. So what you're saying is it's all right? Do you know the tragedy of it, right, is you actually, not tragedy, I just fucking, I just wanna shoot myself in the face for even saying it at this point,

but the actual truth of it is, when did I first start swearing? I was probably eight, I remember quite specifically in middle school, probably being seven or eight and someone asking me what, saying, do you know what a fucking wanker is? And me saying- And you went, do I?

Mr. Philips? Yeah, Mr. Philips. Um, no, but it was, and I remember swearing being around around from yeah, my dad never swore at home He was very good at that. Yeah I mean I think but if I went to work with my dad you'd hear swear or football you'd hear swearing all the time I think the failure on my part and Doggie style is an example of this as well is my son saying that's why I fucked your bitch You fuck your book. Can I say but actually worse than the actual language and that is the connotation that it's about

Yeah, that's that's the point I was about to make the truth is the swearing is not the issue Yeah, the truth is referring to a woman as a bitch Yeah, right and that is something that I do to him about and and have you talked to about it? Yeah, because I think like you have to sort of Look is what it that's what it says in the song, right? But what I want them to appreciate is, is that women should not be talked about in that way, right? But also, rap music and hip hop was a lot more like toxic

back then, like if you go back and think. Well, there's certain elements of rap music that are still like that, but at that time, that was all everyone heard, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was that that type of thing and I think talking to them about that and and not normalizing that type of stuff is probably is probably more important than the profanity German yeah yeah yeah anyway and that with that a bonus episode done locked in the fucking yeah can I just say thank you

once again to all our emailers? Thank you, emailers. Yeah. Rich, stay in touch, friend. I can't wait to just feel that warmth of your handshake and go, Rom, Rich is here. And then someone hopefully will take the cue and go, Thank you for being a friend.

Travel down the road and back again. Your heart is full, you're a friend and a confidant. You would have a party and invite everyone you knew. You would see the biggest gift would be from me and the card attached would say thank you for being a friend. Rich. There you go. Yeah. Lovely. Thank you so much for listening. We'll see you next time. friend. Rich. There you go. Lovely. Thank you so much for listening. Cheers Rich. We'll see you next time.

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