Wonderful! - Ep. 40: Killed in a Terrible Passion

Episode Date: October 7, 2016

The Bachelorette Canada is spending some time exploring a drama that we just could not care less about, so on this episode, we do a deep dive into a very important subject: Which boys in the house have actually been ghosts the whole time? MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

Maybe you should go and do some contemplating. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. I'm the Bachelorette and I'm rapping to your poolside. Here to find true love. Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Rose Buddies.

It's a podcast where we talk about only the finest Canadian television shows. This week we're talking about The Bachelorette Canada, but tune in next week for a synopsis of Northern Exposure is the only one. That was Canada, wasn't it? I don't know that that's Canadian. I think it was Alaska. Yeah. Which is America's Canada. What's another?

Oh, Kids in the Hall. Shit, that would have been way better. Let's start over. Or SCTV. SC that that was pretty canadian let's start over i'm griffin man this is rose base kids in the hall what's your favorite mine's the squishing your head guy today we're talking about the works of mike myers my wife is staring at me and i'm not sure what she's expecting wait mike myer what are you talking about my works of Mike Myers. My wife is staring at me, and I'm not sure what she's expecting. Wait, Mike Myers? What are you talking about?

Mike Myers is a Canadian man. Yeah, but he's not Kids in the Hall affiliated. No, but he is very Canadian. This will start getting funny at some point. I'm sorry I disappointed you so bad. Can we talk about how we're both in Austin, Texas again? We're back in the heart of Texas, um it is so nice to be back with you rachel my wife um it's nice to be back with our cat who is a disaster it is good to be back where

blue apron is getting shipped to our house and i can cook cook tasty meals again this is not an advertisement it's just i really like doing it and it's nice to be back yeah that's it those are the only things i really came back all right if you'd brought the cat and a box of pre-portioned ingredients to huntington i'd be like well this i guess this is my home now i've noticed a lot when people advertise that they say it's that word they say pre-proportioned or they say proportioned so that's mostly pre-portioned i think it's because you listen to a lot of my brother my brother me and justin hits that word wrong every time he does it pre-proportioned proportioned is proportions not a pre that

just means pre-portioned right proportioned the word has lost all meaning proportion means pre pre-portioned which means there's somebody before the portioning step it's like let's really nail this one guys anyway should we talk about the bachelorette can wow that's a loud car we're gonna get back in the groove with things don't worry a little rusty uh let's talk about the bachelorette canada because i just can't wait to talk about the drew and chris thing because it had me on the edge of a seat in a different room because I didn't want to watch it. Yeah, if you'll remember last week, we were pretty much done with that conflict. And then they brought us more of it this week. I still like Bachelorette Canada a lot because I like all the folks in it. And it's it's new

and exciting. And I turned to you at a certain point today. I was like, Jasmine's the best Bachelorette, like period. I don't, Jasmine's the best bachelorette. Like, period. I don't think there's anybody who could argue against that. And it sounds like I'm saying it because I think she listens to the podcast. But I swear to God, like, she's more entertaining than anybody else. But... She doesn't seem at all uncomfortable on camera. No.

Like, there's no part of her that's like, hello, gentlemen. Welcome to this date that I brought you to. She's really good at it but that that said like real really getting worried that we're about to hit like this show's main bad habit which is like here's a completely manufactured conflict let's see if we can make it last four fucking episodes well the here's the thing though at the end of this episode we only have let's see two four six eight guys. There's eight boys left. So, I mean, yes, you're right. There can't be that much left.

We have the sweet release of the death of this season of the show to at least someday release us from the Drew and Chris drama. But, like, I'm just over it. Yeah. It did make me realize what I like about this show and, like, how it could be fine without this shit. This shit doesn't have to be in every season, especially when it's like completely cut from like made up from whole cloth because if you rewind the tapes y'all show me the receipts there was one episode where drew was just like i just don't like that chris guy for literally no reason let's make that the main conflict arc for the whole for the whole season it takes two to tango you know like as much as you might think that that's true that's being pushed he is participating he's participating yes and it's but like

this show there is no other television show it doesn't matter if it's reality tv or otherwise there can't be like an episode of breaking bad where like uh walter white and jesse are just like having a a fight that came out of literally nowhere that takes them like five episodes it takes them half a season to resolve like that shit has to be bottled like give me new stuff every week and the show is giving me new stuff every week except for this like except for this drama and it's not just the season of bachelor at canada it's every season of this show ever. And guys, like, your show would be so much better without it. I don't know if that's 100% true, though. If we take out conflict...

I'm not saying conflict. I'm saying the conflict that, like... Oh, okay. The conflict that gets dragged out. Yeah, just like... And it's no joke. It's like, it has to be every single season now. Yeah.

And it's just... It's really exhausting. If it's organic... Like, Courtney, single season now uh and it's just it's really exhausting if it's organic like courtney i think is a good example of like she was a shit show and she was a villain but it was like i think it was legitimate and because it was legitimate it was interesting and so the conflict that happened there was like a lot of tiara from sean season maybe less so because that i think was i think tiara was probably putting on for for tv just a little bit more than courtney was but like it's it's certainly better than like this which is just like we're fighting now deal with it america and also canada mostly canada okay we should probably talk about the episode yeah that was uh five and a half minutes of scenes like uh so we are in uh montreal now where in jamaica is that

that is in canada oh interesting they're back in canada you can tell by all the sweaters and hats and let's let me tell you about the boys that can speak french one benoit benoit the one that's been speaking french the whole time this is benoit's stomping grounds he is very excited to be in montreal there was somebody else who was at least making a run at speaking some french uh thomas This is Benoit's stomping grounds. He is very excited to be in Montreal. There was somebody else who was at least making a run at speaking some French. Thomas. Thomas. Thomas was just like, bienvenidos.

No. Bienvenue. Bienvenue. Mi amo, Thomas. Sweet, Thomas. You're giving it your best shot. Griffin took Spanish in high school and college. Si.

Si, claro. It was not his core competency. No. Not even a little bit. I think I probably know more Japanese from the one hour of Pimsleur course that I took last year than I do from the like six years of Spanish I took in high school and college. Oops. The like six years of Spanish I took in high school and college. Oops.

So we get a little bit from Jasmine about how Montreal is a very Parisian place in Canada. Just because I don't know anything about Montreal except like it's in Quebec where. Well, they showed some old buildings and cobblestones. Yeah. This is. I do like sometimes. I like travel shows like a lot for this like oh i want to now i didn't know this but now i want to go to that place and it's where the bachelor and bachelorette can be the ones to deliver that experience to me because it's like

sandals jamaica like i think i know everything well to be clear montreal is no nema colon that was the place i was also literally also thinking about. Man, Nemecon looks ballin'. Foggy as fuck up in those mountains. And Jasmine says that she finds Montreal to be a great place to fall in love. Word for word. Slam dunk. Thank you, Jasmine. So the first date card goes to one man. It is a single date.

And Drew decides that he wants to read the card yeah so i think kevin one of the kevins one of the kevins card and drew's like oh no no you've gotten too many dates let me read this one and immediately i'm like okay he's about here we go he's about to dunk on chris again and it's not gonna be funny so the first time he, quote, dunked on Chris, it was a group date. And Drew said Chris and then paused for a long time and then read everybody else's names. This time. New twist on it. Everyone knows it's a one-on-one date.

He says Chris, pauses, and he's like, nah. Nah, I got you. Just got you. Nah, it's Mikkel. Which I'm excited about, but that's like nah i got you just got now it's mikhail which i'm excited about but that's like chris is very upset and why does he have to watch it watch this keep watching re-watch the episodes that have already passed if you want but continue watching the season and watch every time a boy reads a card there has to be some sort of accompanying shtick sweet mike gets up there and has the card and does a little hoedown dance and all the boys are laughing and it's like whoa why is he why is

he this why is he this hat why is this why why are you doing this why the fuck does drew have to do a tight five every time he stands up in front of a group of boys he's not the funniest man. There's this, like, there's this bro dynamic. Yeah. But it feels false for everybody. It seems like everybody has agreed, like, oh, we're just a bunch of guys hanging out in a house together and we just do crazy guy hijinks. Yeah. But, like, none of them are naturals at it. The bro dynamic is unique this season.

It's uniquely Canadian. How is that? It's clearly Canadian. I don't actually season. It's uniquely Canadian. And how is that? It's clearly Canadian. I don't actually know if it's uniquely Canadian. But there's some tattling that goes on a bit later in this episode. And it's one of the only times I can think of where, like, one dude tattles on another dude who has been kind of a shitheel. And nobody else, nobody's got his back. Absolutely nobody's got a back.

In fact, everybody has the back of the tattlie, the recipient of the tattle. Well, they might going forward, though. They might going forward, but they defo didn't this time. No. And I can't think of another situation like that. We're talking on Bachelor or Bachelorette. You think of when, like, people were ratting out Jubilee. There was a squad of people who were like, oh, I want to get in on this tattle party.

Usually people, like, build momentum. Like, they build confidence. They're like, oh, I want to get in on this. Well, because usually people like build momentum, like they build confidence. They're like, yeah, he's the worst, right? Yeah, no, you're right. You're totally right. Like, I'm not off base on this. No, no, no. Yeah. And that didn't happen.

They didn't consensus build prior to reveal. Sure. Okay, so Mikkel gets the date, which we're very excited about. I love this sweet boy. And this is when our friends from McDonald's make a little appearance. Very weird that, okay, she brings in two McCafe cups. And for a moment, so many thoughts run through my head. No, no, no, let's set up the scene better.

Okay, so Mikkel is in bed, and she sneaks into his room. His nipple garnish is floating in a glass next to the next to his bedside table you don't want to sleep with that in right like no way i mean no way women sleep with their navel rings in all the time that's different but it's also very dangerous. And why would it be dangerous? Because if Freddy shows up, that piercing is going to be a key player in your nightmare torment. Kruger from the Friday movies. Scary Friday? Nightmare on Elm Street.

I think it was Scary Friday. Oh, okay. In Canada, the movies were called Scary Friday. Okay, because Nightmare on Elm Street, they were like, Elm Street. I think it was Scary Friday. Oh, okay. In Canada, the movies were called Scary Friday. Okay, because on Elm Street, they were like, Elm Street? You probably would know more about Canada than me. Why? I don't know. Because of my hockey enthusiasm?

You do love hockey, though, for real. Anyway, I don't know if he's got his nipple piercing in or not. Okay, anyway, so she brings some coffee as like a little, hey, we have a date later, and I just wanted to bring you this coffee. Sweet. See? Funny, kind, caring. And it's a McCafe.

It's a McCafe. So maybe not as caring. Because like, why that? There's the- Griffin, it's a sponsorship. I know it's a sponsorship. I know it is. For a second, I thought it was just like the worst Greek-ing like myths of all time.

Like, guys, this is a McDonald's logo. You gotta blur that one out it's mcdonald's yeah but then later the guys at the house uh all get uh coffees and pastries and a little mccafe like banner pops up after that but like canada is known for its coffee and like places, like Tim Hortons. Yeah, but McDonald's loves the Bachelor Bachelorette family. As you'll recall, was it Ben that took a woman on a date to a McDonald's? And wasn't that woman Lauren? I think it was. And they ended up together.

So there you go. You bite that egg McChchicken that's not anything you gotta hamburger your heart you got a trip to mcdonald's rubble rubble you're in trouble because we're in love now will you marry me yes will you please marry me grimace oh i'm sorry i thought you were talking to me no it's very hot in here and i've almost drank a whole bottle of champagne it's a little one it's a little bottle i'm hallucinating okay uh so mikhail and jasmine go on their date which uh the premise of their date is that they are going to create street art under the guidance of a couple that are professional street artists.

They've been together 19 years. And so when they arrive at the- Vandals. I mean, let's just call it what it is, vandalism. Here we might call it graffiti artists, but I'm wondering if that's derogatory now for people who legitimately receive approval. Yeah. Which is what I'm assuming was happening on this episode.

That are the worst banksies ever. Yeah, we'll be on TV. So for some reason, in order for them to participate in the street art, they have to change into street artist clothes. I'm guessing because they didn't want to get paint on their other stuff but these street artist clothes were like but they were very stylish very very little black beanies and like in and street art inspired sweatshirts how much do you know about street art by which i mean graffiti or vandalism or spray or sprayed paint i watched a documentary about it oh yeah and now i can't remember what it was called but it was about graffiti in new york oh was it um jet grind radio no was it mark echoes getting up i don't know what you're doing now these are spray paint video games i'm not sure why

okay i was throwing those at you okay but i do i just want you to know there's a japanese it was a rollerblading um spray paint game called jet grind radio and it's pretty balling but then mark echo is getting up i think mark echo made a video game it's called mark echo's getting up which is probably the best name for a game ever because it it also sounds like a thing that Mark Echo's wife would say every morning. Like, oh, it looks like Mark Echo's getting up. Because he's getting out of bed. This isn't doing anything for me, and I'm sorry. There's like two nerds at home.

They're like, I fucking love Mark Echo's Getting Up. Okay. This segment was for them. Their names are Joshua and Bradley and bradley oh good and oh there's a third one mckayla she really liked it too yeah thanks for listening thanks guys uh and so we learn that mckayla has been brought on this date because jasmine really wants to see if he can take charge no he, he can't. He cannot. She draws a very competent rose on the wall.

Straight up? Sprays, I should say. She gets up on that wall really, really good. I was blown away. This thing looks good. Is she a painter? Well, she's a hairstylist, which means she has some kind of artistic competency. She has some sort of aesthetic eye.

Yeah. She crushed this rose it's beautiful so mikhail's supposed to come in with some shading he does not perform he does okay i think he's okay but then she says that um that he is very very bad and he does that she makes this beautiful rose and then he like kind of makes like a half circle around it and it's like oh dog why are you doing that that's a lot of spray paint you just put down. You did a bad job. He's like, I wanted to seem confident. Oh, you confidently fucked up my beautiful rose paint.

But, okay. They also, infuriatingly, she wrote J plus, and then he wrote M, and then equals, and then they didn't put anything up to the equals! Did you notice that? Drove me crazy.

No. I saw the M and the equal sign i thought that was his tag oh no it said j plus m equals did you not see the j plus are you colorblind because it was purple on red i don't know oh my god how have you not taken one of these tests before no i think i thought the j was part of the rose shading i load up a colorblind test on my computer right now and we can like get to the bottom of this right now? All right. I'm definitely not colorblind, though.

I'm going to scope your cones out. Scoping your cones. This begins our new segment. Scoping those cones. Scoping those cones with Griffin and Rachel. It's a colorblind test. Can you see what number is in there? Seven.

How about that one? 42. How about that one? 74. That one? 10. That one? Two.

All right, you're good. Yeah, see? Babe, you can't be mad at me. I had to scope those cones. We're about to have a baby together. I need to know what his cone situation's like. Yeah, and our baby's most likely perfect vision would be compromised by me i've been okay that's mean uh i've been doing podcasts for like six

years now that's the first colorblind test i've ever done so you can't get that on on griffin's other shows you just ladies and gentlemen colorblind tests okay so um they're still on the date but meanwhile noah arrives at the house uh and says there will be two group dates this week um and he's leaving the first card and on this group date will be kevin p benoit andrew and david who then dabs upon announcement of his name. Thank you, David. Thank you. A note about Noah. I have a dark theory. Okay. I think he's a ghost. Why?

Have you seen, other than Jasmine, who maybe can see ghosts, I'm working on this theory. Oh, because nobody interacts with him? Nobody's ever had, nobody has said something to Noah and then Noah respond to it or vice versa. Nobody's ever like laid a hand on Noah and Noah has never touched anyone? I'm not joking. When this dude walks into the room

and it's why I don't have, I still don't have a feel for him. It's because I haven't watched him answer a question or like address anything. And I know that Chris Harrison doesn't do a lot of that stuff but if somebody like does something goofy chris harrison will be like good one we don't even get either these things are being filmed like months apart from each other or noah the host of bachelorette canada has been dead the whole time well he has a twitter account he's fairly active

on if you're murdered in a terrible passion your ghost can still tweet that's nice i'm just saying that look help me out here just look out for it okay i mean i'll keep an eye out i don't i don't want to be too hard on noah because he can only work with what he's giving i know i'm not saying it has anything to do with noah i'm just saying i'm not saying he's doing a bad job i'm saying i think he's been dead the whole time. And I think, let the boys talk to Noah. And then Noah can answer the questions that the boys have. It's not Noah's fault. Noah wants to talk to the boys, but he can't.

Murdered in a terrible passion 10 years ago at the train station. They can see him, though. They acknowledge that he has arrived. Can they see him? They're like, when Noah arrives in the afternoon, you know that there's trouble. You know, like they've referred to him. Maybe Noah is. Okay.

Maybe they know he's a ghost, right? So they know Noah's a ghost. And so when a date car comes floating into the room, they're like, shh, shh, shh. Do you feel that? It just got really cold in here. I can see my breath. All the cabinets are open. Noah?

Noah, are you with us um well okay that i believe okay thank you that's a good that's a good theory um i'm saying he's murdered terrible passion 10 years ago at a train station okay why a train station i i'm he asked himself that question like every night and he will into eternity as he tries he tries to just wail down the halls just you're just searching for release but he'll never find it why in the train station 10 years ago i don't know i don't know maybe okay okay all right new theory here we go new theory because i'm trying to figure out how was he fated to host this show yeah sure so i'm guessing he's at the train station

and he was supposed to meet the woman that he was in love with oh shit and then he stood her up noah and as on his as he was running out of the train station he gets hit by a car not not a train no that's that's yeah that's the shamalan twist i love it and uh and his punishment is to help other people find love find their way he's like he's like sam beckett oh see now now i'm bonding with noah because i again i don't have very much to go on. I'm sure he's a very nice man. But I think it was murderly terrible passion. A car accident passion?

Now I'm confused. Yes. We need to be consistent. It's a very passionate car crash. Because if he hit him, it was like, mmm. Oh, God. All right. I hit that man with my car.

This passion is terrible. Mmm. Okay, we have to move on. Oh, yeah, we've been going for a while, huh? So back to the Mikkel date. Oh, my God, it's still the first date. Yep. Sorry.

Sorry, everybody. So they go to the Chateau Vieux. You want to hit that one again for go to the Chateau Vieux. You want to hit that one again for me? The Chateau Vieux. That's good stuff. Can I put my ear really just close to your face when you do? It's just, you know, those sweet French nothings. They're at the Chateau Vieux.

There are candles everywhere. A band is playing. The band is called the Franklin Electric. They're pretty good. Which, yeah, I don't know if across the, uh, across the border, the tradition holds of bringing a band on that nobody's heard of. Uh, but I had not heard of this band. Yeah. I find that, um, I like Canadian music very, very much, but I think there's a lot of stuff up there

that everybody knows about that I've never even heard of. Yeah, it's very possible this is a very popular band. Sure. So they dance a little bit. It's very romantic. Did you have a Canadian music fetish growing up? I feel like there was a time there where I was like, Canada's the only people making good music.

Like Sarah McLachlan? Were you a big fan? Basically just Sarah McLachlan. Alanis Morissette? Alanis Morissette alanis morissette she's canadian that counts i was really into the weaker thans and uh bare naked bare naked ladies they were oh yeah right uh-huh uh and bare naked ladies have actually been on the bachelorette before. Holy shit, you're right. The American one. Follow. Follow the clues to solve Noah's murder. Follow the clues.

We're so close. We're so close. I just need one more clue. Griffin's got a series of thumbtacks and string up on the wall of his office right now bachelor bachelor in paradise bachelorette bachelor mysteries who murdered noah okay uh so they're on a very romantic date together. And then they go to this hot tub room and they drink champagne.

They get as sweaty as I am currently right now. They're very sweaty. You can see Mikkel's nipple adornment very well in these shots. They went from, this stuff doesn't, you know, chase your bliss. They went from a level of clothes to not clothes. And, like, it was jarring how quickly they weren't having, they didn't have clothes. I mean, they were in swimsuits. Yes.

But it was just, like, a smash cut to just, like, wow. Yeah. All the skin. No, we didn't get any kind of prep that this was about to happen. And then Mikail tells us a little bit about himself uh he was born in india he moved uh over when he was four months old uh jasmine says i think it was really cool that you were born in india you know okay sure it doesn't uh he talks about his parents and his family. He makes this argument of just like, but I'm very, very Canadian.

Like, I don't think she was worried so much about that, but. Yeah. Well. And they do a lot of making out. And she gives him a rose and tells him that she's very happy he's there. There's a shot. Because, again again the production values are a bit different for bachelorette canada and i've i really enjoyed that so far

there was a shot that was killing me that they were doing from like 20 feet away from this hot tub like filmed through some candles and the whole thing felt so voyeuristic and like creepazoid that it made me really it was really difficult for me to enjoy the very sweet bonding that was happening between the two of them. Yeah, I didn't really notice it, honestly. Oh, man. It was driving me absolutely nuts. But yeah, they have a really good date.

Yes. And it's exciting. I like those two a lot. That's probably my, Mike, sorry, you got bumped. It's all Mikael now, I think. Do you think, this is maybe not worth speculating over, but do you think somebody like Mikkel could get on American Bachelorette? Yeah, I think somebody like Mikkel would do okay. I don't think we've had a pretty bad run of it now, but I don't think that Softboy

I just don't think he would even get on the show. Because when you look at the guys on Bachelorette in the US that are a little more intellectual and a little more quiet they're more like chris than they're like mikhail yeah they're like exaggerated like i'm the sensitive intellectual one whereas mikhail just seems like like a good dude who happens to be sure i would argue that he wouldn't get pigeonholed like that because i i think he's got more going on for like that's a weird thing chris in this season is filling the role of like the intellectual quiet dude mikhail is like a fucking helicopter surgeon like he's probably wicked smart it's just not like that's the only

thing he's got going on he's also got a beautiful nipple ring just a beautiful nip i just like i find him very refreshing yeah and i think it's just because you don't see a lot of guys like him on shows like this. I find a lot of the guys in this season really, really refreshing. Yeah. Because it's just a good batch of boys, like, across the board. Like, most of the boys are just very good. Yeah, that's fair. Well done.

Bachelorette can't. I guess if it's your first season, like, we're just, we're moving through the snickle fritz now here in the USA. Like, every boy that was going to be on The Bachelorette has been on The Bachelorette, and now they are just diving into the fucking, like, they're getting into deep Craigslist where the fucking crud hides and just scraping it off the walls and putting them in a suit. You know what I mean?

Yeah, no, that's fair. I mean, I think there's still good guys on our version, but the ratio is much less impressive. It's whack. It's whack. Like, the ratio of, like, entertaining guys is whack. I think a lot, and maybe it's just because we had fewer boys to deal with, so I know more about them in this season. But, like, I know more about them, and I, like, find most of them pretty entertaining.

find most of them pretty entertaining. Like, in this last season of Bachelorette, I'm having trouble now thinking about, like, who I really, really, who I really liked. Because I don't think there was that many folks. Yeah, no, there wasn't. You know what I mean? Like, nobody really sticks out,

and maybe this is just, like, my faulty memory, but, like, nobody really sticks out as being like, well, this guy was obviously never going to win, but I really found him entertaining and really liked. It wasn't that. And there's a couple of those here in bachelorette canada i really like big big kyle i really like uh uh mckayla a lot you know what i mean like i don't i don't know i don't know what it means i don't know i don't think it's like a broad difference between canada and u.s i'm sure it's a broad difference between like a single casting director on each show yeah but like it's a good difference between a single casting director on each show, but

it's a good batch of boys, and we would be lucky to have them. It's true. So now it's time for the group date. As a reminder, the group date is Kevin P., Benoit, Andrew, and David. And it is a Cirque du Soleil date. And it is Cirque du So Good

to watch these boys do circus acts. It was confusing to us, and this is justous so good to watch these boys do circus acts it was confusing to us and this is just maybe a fashion thing but it seemed like half the guys were suited up in leotard gear and half the guys were not which but then i wondered is it just like an all-black fashion thing no i think it's a i mean most of it was like leotard style stuff, which made me think, did every boy bring a leotard? Was there no, like, bring a leotard from home? Maybe it depended on the device that they got connected to. That's entirely possible.

With the gear they were supposed to wear. This was brutal. Everybody got their own device to play with. Yeah, so Andrew is on a bed that is actually a trampoline. Okay, this is, we have to address this because I don't know anything about Andrew, except that Jasmine says, I gave him the big bed trampoline because he has a lot of energy to burn off, which to me is the most savage, just like,

this sweet boy needs to bounce. I'm going to leave him in the ball pit for a while to really get his wiggles out. To my knowledge, Andrew has never appeared on camera and said anything. Again, maybe murdered in a terrible passion. Like, maybe, I don't know. Well, I'm not ready to attach that to, like, what is already a very solid theory. But this, like, teardown of, let's just let him play with his toy and get his willies out. Give him a pudding cup later.

out we give him a give him a give him a pudding cup later uh so benoit gets uh like a little bungee harness very very fun uh david gets the like the aerialist straps and uh kevin or kevin kevin yes the other deckhand kevin gets the pole kevin is on the pole. Which he, like, is sick at. I want to talk about David, too, because, like, you got a fun pole that you pole dance on. You got a big bed that you jump on and dive into a foam pit. And you got, like, a fun little, like, bungee thing. David essentially got, like, crucified on these, like, crazy straps that he just has to hold his whole body up from and be hung and swung around from the ceiling and get his arms torn off. It looked brutal. And it's like, he was like, I wonder if I'm just getting the short end of the stick for some reason. Because I've gotten like some shit every week since I've been here. And it's like, it kind of seems like

yeah, maybe a little bit. Yeah, it seems like ever since episode one, David said top that. Jasmine was like, well. Well, now I have to entrap him in my Machiavellian. I have to subject you to a series of punishments every week. It's brutal, dude. It's weird. Everybody else is like swinging around and bouncing. I'm getting my jimmies out.

This is fun. I can't wait for pudding lunch. And David's just like hanging by his arms like, please. Like rats nibbling at his chest. Like, please, God. So everybody's arms, like, please. Like rats nibbling at his chest, like, please, God. So everybody's actually really good, though. They all have to do little performances. Oh, well.

I would say that they're all, well, Andrew wasn't. Andrew just kind of jumps up and down on a big bed. Yeah, Andrew's not especially impressive. But I feel like they all do better than we're expecting. And Benoit really crushes it like jumps up really high and spins around this trapeze and and uh so he gets chosen for the one-on-one time which is like a guaranteed rose or a guaranteed sent home right that's like a lot of stuff riding on i did a good swing and bounce yeah yeah it what could fucking andrew have done on the big trampoline bed that she would have been like whoa dope a bunch of tumbles he didn't even

tumble he didn't i guess he like held on to the headboard and just bounced a bunch he did he was having a fun time and he was really i bet he took just the biggest nap right after that i bet he just went right down yeah what do you think he looks like sleeping probably exactly like he looks awake rachel he's doing his very best he is and he's having a good time he's having a fun time. I feel punchy this episode for no reason whatsoever. So Benoit and Jasmine get to go to Luzia? Luzia? You took this language for so long and it just dripped. Well, that's not French.

That's Cirque du Soleil. It just pours right out of your mouth. I made the point that I think any person who can speak the language of French, not just native people from France, but anybody who can speak French, once you know how to speak French, if you go to Cirque du Soleil, I think you automatically know how to do one of the acts. I think you can just walk on stage and just, like, pop off, like, one of the acts. I'm not saying everybody is going to get in there

and do like the motorcycle ball or whatever. I've never seen Cirque du Soleil. Okay. So anyway, so they go to this performance of Cirque du Soleil and then afterwards they go to like a little VIP tent, which is kind of circusy and has a couch and some champagne some little macarons they look really good and then they they spend some time together and then he tongue blasts her face mouth and it's like the worst he like he's telling us the viewer that he hasn't kissed her yet and wants to and is kind of trying to figure out his moment and she's kind of

talking about the sexy eye face that he makes at her um but she also wants to see that he's serious and so then he just says a few things like oh i i am looking for a serious relationship uh i'm actually kind of a serious person and she's like oh that's good and then they go back to wacky time uh and then they spoon there's like a blanket and he's like trying to get her to lay down but in like a whimsical way and he's wearing glasses oh that's the other thing a lot of glasses a lot of blink and you'll miss it glasses where i made the comment earlier the guy that she was super into that ended up being a dud yeah had glasses and i was like this i've already removed his name from my mind i feel

like it started with an s seth maybe uh he had glasses and i remarked upon how he was the only contestant i had ever seen wear glasses and then this this ep, two people. A bunch of boys wearing glasses. Benoit had the glasses, and then inexplicably later, Drew had glasses. But anyway, so they're having this kind of wacky exchange on the couch, and Jasmine's telling us about how he just is so fun and goofy. And then they're kind of staring at each other and then he just tongue blasts and then he says okay perfect and starts kissing her and she's like um he kisses in a way

that isn't exactly how i would do it but it was so passionate yeah um and then he tells us that he is french canadian so he french kisses that can't be yeah i don't know very much about french canadians or um france i guess in general if you haven't picked that up after this episode of the podcast and like i don't know how much clearer i can be but they can't that has that can't be a thing that you do that can't be a thing you actually say and do if you're French or French-Canadian, right? Like, I'm French, so I French kiss, booyah. No, it's a throwaway line. Benoit's not especially funny. But he's fun.

And she gives him the rose. I guess it's fun, but he like straight up tongue blasts that face, mouth, for like five minutes. And she's like, okay great she says that he makes her feel desired awesome so it gets him another week okay well good well done benoit uh so now it is the group football date which is drew. Which is Drew, Kyle, Thomas, the other Kevin, Mike, and Chris. And the teams are arranged as such. Those first three boys versus the other three boys.

It is the hotties versus the naughties. And you'll never guess who's on the naughties team. True. The bad boy. And they are provided the throwing arms of two very talented members of the

Montreal Alouettes football team this was one of the more whack sporting events that's ever been on this franchise alright guys we're going to play some football first to three touchdowns wins that's a weird way of keeping score in football but okay first to three touchdowns how are we well i'm gonna be the throwing man and all three of you are gonna run

out and the other three are gonna try to keep you from catching them and running them for touchdowns like okay it's like a cash way like like some kids in a park might play i guess so what like where's can you here's what i would have done when i'm on the defense team i would have run up and tackled the professional football man just like that's a sack that's legal that's a legal law in football i'm just saying there's a lot of defensive pass interference and where the fuck was the ref i think jasmine was the ref wasn't she well jasmine i'm sorry to say it a little referee outfit jasmine i know you're a fan you blinked on so much dpi out there it was driving me crazy

it was like inflate gate all over again i think is what that was in reference to did you call it inflate gate yeah he extra inflated the balls to get them like really super bouncy yeah so that's the thing i don't understand it because if deflates, it won't throw as far, right? If you inflate it, more air, floatier balls thrown for farther and better touchdowns. Floatier balls. That's good. You've cheapened my football.

You've cheapened yourself, Griffin. Yes, you're right. I'm sorry. That's the four ounce bottle of champagne talk so we find out as they're getting ready that chris has never really played on a sports team and has to kind of learn how to play football from kevin and mike who are very nice that's very yeah it's very this was it was sweet uh and kyle our man kyle gets the first touchdown because he got the ball fell over

and was in the parking lot and they're like i guess that counts i guess that works because he's so tall he's a tall man was the thing yeah uh who gets the second touchdown though i will say jasmine by the way just give me the play by play i'm not looking if i wanted scores i'd go to sports center i want to know what happened on that beautiful gridiron jasmine was really excited about kyle she wanted him to tackle some people because she was so big or he was so big jasmine that's a straight up irresponsible dog uh and you can tell kyle is is kind of like he's trying to go easy on the gentleman because he knows that there's a clip go back and watch it where they're like doing some training beforehand

and kyle like tackles one of those things that like offensive linemen like shoulder charge into to like i guess build up charging strength or whatever he lifts that motherfucker off the ground and throws it like you would throw like a small cat or something like he would never though he would never never i'm just saying like that is the way differential there if he had tackled one of these boys they would have hung out like on the moon for a while he knows that with great power comes great responsibility kyle thank you for not killing these boys uh drew gets the second touchdown so that's two for the uh for the naughties and drew when he gets this touchdown over chris he's actually really sweet about it just kidding it's a dick yeah yeah the whole the whole tension that's being built is like oh and now drew and chris have a

an opportunity to hit each other and they don't really doesn't they don't really do that uh but we do get to hear drew's evil laugh over and over again can you give it to me that's incredibly yeah that's it i think it's like it was like a combination of the two um and then oh god look at the audio waves shit sorry everybody i'm gonna turn both our mics down woofa dofa check hey okay this is much better

yeah all right now we're doing now we're doing a podcast um so the guys uh on the hotties team really have to get their head in the game. And Chris actually blocks Thomas getting the third touchdown. And then Chris gets a touchdown. It's a big moment for Chris. Yeah, he does a sport. He does a sport. We're all very happy for him. And then Mike gets a touchdown.

And then it's all tied up. Um, two, two, which is a very common football score okay this is insane both of you just got safeties and then i guess that was i guess that's the end of the ball game boy this sucks and then kevin uh captain canada rolls his ankle um and then gets a touchdown on his sprained ankle. The greatest football story ever told. And the guys celebrate, at which point Griffin tells me, quote, I love at the end of sports games when guys pick each other up and twirl each other around.

Yeah, it's like my favorite. Yeah, I really like that bit. And so here's the thing so typically in this scenario the winning team would get one-on-one time or not one-on-one time but they would get additional time with jasmine uh and the losing team would have to go home immediately but jasmine just arbitrarily decides hey you know what you know i thought there were stakes there are no stakes you all get to go on a date with me now so it it just it was all for naught if i was one of those winner boys if i was if i was captain canada who destroyed his leg yeah no kidding going in for the victory of the game destroyed his leg and then went in to play that final play and got that winning touchdown and then oh it didn't matter who would have been miffed kevin after this segment

of the date kevin has to go to the hospital and he gets a new leg sprained his ankle so badly they give him crutches and put a boot on him which was really confusing for me because he kept he was like yeah they had to put a boot on and i was like they had to put about what anyway that's some of my can that's some of my canada jokes it's okay it's not bad but Canada jokes. It's okay. It's not bad, but it's certainly not good. It was funny when you said it as we were watching. I didn't think you were going to retell it on the podcast.

Oh, God, I share this with my friends on the ear pods. Rachel kind of smiled, so I'm bringing it to the air. Literally, if I can get that reaction, it's probably pretty good. Bring it into the air. Literally, if I can get that reaction, it's probably pretty good. And so on this date, Jasmine says she's looking to see who's kind of a good sport. So the game is over. And it's important to her to see how everybody kind of carries themselves post game. But the first thing she does is say, you know, whoever pours me a glass of wine is going to get the first one on one time which she tells us she doesn't announce it she had said it out loud these

boys would have like murdered each other yeah so mike happens to do it so she pulls mike away and then guys this fucking this was when i was like jasmine is the best there ever was this moment she they sit down and she kind of talks about how her and mike or she's telling us how her and mike haven't really connected in any kind of like intimate physical way yet and so she just turns to mike and just says i heard you have an eight pack and mike is so sweet because he's like well yeah you know it just makes the job a lot easier to stay in shape. But like, I'm not like the first guy to like go around, you know, showing it off.

And Jasmine's just like, no, take it out. Take it out. Take your shirt off. Take your shirt off. And at first he's kind of resistant because he's like, well, I don't. And she's like, no, no, no. Just take it off. Just take off your shirt.

It was so fucking good. Like, no, no, no. Just take it off. Just take off your shirt. It was so fucking good. Like, it was so unbelievably good. Because then he does, and she's like, holy shit. She literally says, she looks at his ab muscles, and she says, can I touch it? In about that tone of voice, like. It was so fucking good, dude. And that's, I mean, and that's all he needed at that point it was it was such a unique moment because i i really like jasmine i think that was a really

funny moment but also there is no other dude who has ever been on this show that has an eight fuck it a six plus a four plus pack that would be on this show and not try to take their shirt off like first chance and try to take their shirt off like first chance and try to get their tummy skin. And do like a little sexy dance too. Yeah. Like really milk it. His like reluctance to like show off his stuff

and then her like demand to do it was like seriously one of the best moments of this TV show. Yeah. If we're saying this and it sounds like gross like it super wasn't like it was like weirdly very very charming and just like super sexy fun because because it was sexy i'm not gonna you know what am i gonna do lie it was fun because she was clearly trying to like find a new exciting thing with mike like she recognized that their relationship had been

kind of serious and wasn't really progressing and so you could tell she was just like you know what i want to see those abs get those abs out mike good shit man that's good and then he walks back into the room with her and his shirt is unbuttoned and like his and the guys are freaked captain canada season is like uh he comes back from the hospital to this. What's up? Still you, girl. Look at this.

I look like a lobster down here. Look at my carapace. You like that shit? Only two of my abs are dating her right now, but by the end of the night. I'll be up till all eight. the night i'll be up to all eight um so then there's this drew chris thing again uh drew makes some comment how chris deserves a rose because he was on the winning team and chris is like chris is is such a like beaten puppy at this point he's like yeah really you know he's just like he's so tired of being bullied by drew yeah and then drew's like yeah somebody on the

winning team should definitely get a rose but i don't think it's gonna happen and then this is like uh and so chris decides all right, that's it. I am going to tell Jasmine that Drew is awful. And so Chris pulls Jasmine away and says, you know, would you want to know about somebody who might not be here, you know, for the right reasons? And he doesn't say right reasons, but that's basically what he's saying. And she's like, yeah, of course. reasons but that's basically yeah sure and she's like yeah of course and he says to quote beware of drew and says which is a crazy thing beware says that drew said a lot of nasty things to him and tells jasmine about the like bait and switch on the single date today or the day before and um

jasmine seems concerned and it's yeah, that doesn't sound good. And so she immediately pulls Drew away and says, you know, some of the guys have talked to me and said that, you know, you're not who you seem to be and that you've been saying some bullyish things to uh some of the guys and drew i will say drew is a real smooth operator in this instance yes he doesn't do the typical thing which is like who who said that who said that to you because he knows no he owns up um and then he says yeah you know it was just a practical joke which like trying to include him in some guy stuff and she's like oh yeah guy's tough it's just like a lot of that we're guys guys you know and so we're just doing guy stuff

and um and she's like oh so you were trying to include him in your guy thing and she was like yeah yeah but i should have known you know like i should have read read him better uh and i you know i was too far and and i i apologized and like i regret doing it um and then meanwhile of course he's telling like us the viewer that like chris isn't a man and that like a man doesn't do that there's a lot of talking about what a man, and that, like, a man doesn't do that kind of tattling. There's a lot of talking about what a man does and doesn't do. And all the other guys are like, yeah, he crossed a line. Chris crossed a line.

You should never bring another guy into it. And that was what was weird to me, is you would think there would be at least one other dude. Maybe it's just there's not enough dudes, but, like, there should be at least one other dude who's like, oh, I hear you. That Drew, he's a real D-bag. There should be at least one other dude who's like, oh, I hear you. That Drew, he's a real D-bag. I think they're not... All the guys there don't seem as threatened by Drew, because Drew has very clearly singled out Chris. My thought is that if Chris weren't there, Drew would...

I mean, he'd be up in somebody else's biz. It could also literally be his bullying Chris is a complete work for the tv show and so like maybe just around the other boys he doesn't do it because a producer will come to him while they're doing one of those like behind the scenes interviews and be like oh say something shitty about chris i'll be like oh yeah sure okay here it comes like i don't think the other boys are getting getting a raw deal from from drew really i think it's just like chris now if i was one of the boys and i had to watch him do his fucking shitty prop comedy every time he got up to read who goes on a date i would be a little bit miffed at him yeah like you

remember when he came back from getting the rose and he did that whole i'll never forget it because it was the worst thing i've ever seen but like if i was one of the boys in the house i wouldn't like hold a grudge i certainly wouldn't tattle about Like, Chris just didn't put a case together. You gotta put a fucking case together. Yeah. You gotta do this. So it didn't work. Jasmine seems to, like, feel like she understands the situation.

It doesn't seem suspicious of Drew. And then kind of leaves the evening, and nobody gets a rose. But doesn't make a big deal out of it. And so Rachel and I are like, what just happened? Because all of a sudden it was daytime, nobody got a rose but doesn't make a big deal out of it and so rachel and i're like what just happened because all of a sudden it was daytime nobody got a rose yeah well she gets up and walks out and everyone's like oh man and then chris regrets doing this because there's there seems to be some kind of understanding that he might have gotten the rose but then he compromised his opportunity to get the rose because he spent his time complaining

about drew i feel like kyle should have gotten the rose on this day because he's the top he was the tallest one it just seems like if we're just playing calvin ball with who gets what for what reasons that seems like a really good one for me um i mean that's a weird precedent to set well the rubric would change every week so like this week it's the whoever is the tallest one I mean, that's a weird precedent to set. Well, the rubric would change every week. So, like, this week it's whoever is the tallest one. What would next week be, then? Probably most abs, like, you know, ab count out.

Because you know somebody's got a secret 10. Maybe Andrew had a secret 10 under there. No, I doubt that. Wow. I think if he had a secret 10, we would have... It wouldn't have been a secret 10. Yeah, we would have seen it. A lot of people have secret 10s, you know. They walk among us, and you see them on the street.

Maybe they're your bank or your grocer. And you just don't think about it. But under that shirt, oh, man. Where would the 10... Rolling waves of grain. Because I saw Mike's 8. Yeah. And I don't know where you put two more.

They flank on the left and right oh yeah they're just they're your little subdermal buddies like little parentheses like little parentheses it's a secret my torso looks crazy um okay so we're back at the house no arrives in a very large sweater uh ghost noah and they all acknowledge that he has arrived that he has been summoned uh and that he's there in the afternoon which can't be good because all the dates are finished why would he be there you know how in the one ghost movie that sean malone did he's like wearing a coat the whole time the guy i don't want to spoil it just in case there's somebody left at the end of the movie he like moves the coat and you can see there's a bullet wound and it's been there the whole time big sweater hello big sweater what's under that big sweater a 10 pack

it was him the whole wow wait okay all right kind of mixing it up a little bit. You veered a little. So here's what I think. You can be both a ghost from a terrible murder passion, but also keep it fucking tight. You know what I mean? Doing reps in the ghost gym. Mad reps. Getting ridged.

Just getting ridged out with my ghost bros in the gym for ghouls. This is a very Halloween-themed episode. How appropriate to usher in October. I'm just saying there's gyms out there where ghosts go to get fucking ripped

because they're going to have that body for... Oh, there's a good punchline there. are they called griffin oh jesus like boon asiums no they wouldn't call them that ghost nasiums that's much better you want to work on that for a little bit we can edit out the time while you think of it if it won't come to me i will forget that's what i'm saying okay uh or i can sit here and be distracted while you talk at the end of the episode that's what i'm worried is going to happen so noah lets the guys know there is no cocktail party that it has been canceled and that most likely means jasmine has already made up her mind and so chris tells everybody that his heart is beating very fast, which Griffin pointed out.

He says a lot. He talks a lot about the rhythm of his heart. Drew is like, while they're all sitting around receiving this news, Drew is sitting there with like a beanie and big glasses on, like tinted glasses. Big Elliot Gould glasses. Yeah, strange to see. Where do you get those things, bud? Kevin still has his crutch and his boot. And Thomas has his hair and a little ponytail.

I did not recognize the fool. Yeah, Thomas, here's what made a case to me. So Thomas I can very much see as a model because if he changes one aspect of his face or dress he's unrecognizable to me yeah i'm just totally blown away i mean that's model that's what modeling i know uh so we go straight to the rose ceremony and benoit and mikhail are going into the rose ceremony with roses. And so we find out three guys are not getting roses that night, which is big. So Mike gets a rose, of course, because of the abs.

Kevin lays down his crutch and hobbles over to her when he gets offered a rose. It's a very beautiful moment. Thomas gets a rose. The other Kevin gets a rose. It's very, it's very beautiful moment. Uh, Thomas gets a rose. Um, the other Kevin gets a rose too. And Chris and Drew, but before Drew gets a rose, she pulls him aside and asks if he's there for her.

And he's like, yeah, I like you. I can see something in the future. If you don't like me, you should send me home though. And then she gives him a rose. I don't know what she expected in that moment to happen yeah i didn't uh i didn't either it was yeah maybe she thought like i'm gonna ask him dead

on i'm gonna look in his eyes and then i'll know whether or not do you think we can hit a situation this season potentially we're i think we're the closest we've ever been to this situation where the final two are both named kevin it seems like it oh my god she's a big fan of both kevin's all i want is the tale of two kevins which one's gonna be the one to take it home and the winner is kevin oh god that'd be good kevin and the winner is kevin uh so that means that andrew kyle and david are going sweet kyle she didn't have enough love in her heart for you because you need just more. You need a woman with two hearts. It's a shame that she didn't get that big, that big love.

It's the ranking. I'm just saying the ranking is cowboy love, number one. Not even fucking close. Yes. Number two, apparently French-Canadian. It's somewhere down the list. Just that tall love. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's good. you don't know because i'm 5'10 yeah you don't know what i mean but i've seen tall people in love

and that's true and they seem so good they seem to experience it i think that's why people like celebrities so much just because like some celebrities are very tall and when they fall in love it's like oh perfect but i will say that some are not tall some aren't tall and when that happens it's like look don't make me look at it um so tom cruise and katie holmes before all that like before it got like really really bad between them just when that thing just started up i was like not tall enough you know don't mean you look at the not tall ones um okay so yeah so kyle andrew and david go home and then we find out that next week we are going to back to jamaica back to sandals i left my keys there we have to give back quebec city the qc baby i don't know

anything about quebec city i'm sorry i'm going i'm learning from this we are we're learning we're learning a lot um and then we get like maybe one of the best after scenes of all time and it's the completely awesome demented coach of the like cirque du Soleil sesh they all went to. That dude was amazing. He was trying to get them to move using the energy from inside out of their bodies. And some people were good at it. David was not very good at it. I'm surprised that David kind of fizzled out, right?

Because he seems like he fills an archetype that usually does very, very well on this show. But he did not. He didn't do great. I just think he said top that and it just poisoned the well and yeah that was every anyway this this coach was just like flipping these boys around and just having a really good time yeah you got to see the the men really express themselves through movement which was fun so i i like it like i like strings about the show the canadian version all the dates are like fucking great yeah the dates are fun the dates are amazing

um they're not like lame you have to run through this obstacle course yes i mean i like everything about about the show except for this like drama that's just like nothing demoralizes me more than i have another like i like this episode we have another fucking episode of this it gets me really really hard for me to like get psyched about the next episode when i know like it's just gonna have more of the same shit yeah and it just doesn't seem like it's ever going to come to a head and when it does it's not gonna it's not gonna be satisfying because it's not even like i don't it's not even like one of them is like a big big you know monster like drew's a dick sure but he's not like this big monstrous villain that you're like hoping gets slain or whatever i just neither

of them are gonna win the show so like that's not yeah exactly it's just not it's not interesting to me anymore but and it feels like the people who make these shows think it's just like perfunctory like oh we've got well we've got to have this but there's so many other ways to have like friction on the show and i get that like they do it because it's easier to get you know us weekly front page space if you like establish a long running rivalry like this but as a viewer of the television show who doesn't give a shit about that like oh man is it boring apparently drew and rod have been connecting on different social media platforms sick and good also bachelor at canada i'll put you on blast for having rod on your

after show after show which we don't watch and yeah i don't i don't really want to yeah uh well yeah especially not now yeah but um uh yeah come on guys get your shit together a lot of people have been asking us like what do you think about him on the ben and lauren show it's like, I don't... We're not going to watch it. We're not going to watch it, so don't really give a shit. Also, nobody's going to watch it. So, I don't have any feelings about that. Yeah. It's disappointing, obviously, but like, I don't know.

I'm disappointed that he still gets real estate, but I recognize that that's, I mean, that's what he was after. Yeah. And he's going to work the hustle, and there's not a lot we can do about it. It bothers me. I can just sit here and shudder with quiet, impotent rage. Yeah.

Oh, there it is. You're going to have to finish the show, baby. The rage has taken over. It's not, it's... It's not really quiet rage. It's fairly, I mean, in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, I guess, I mean, it could be louder. Cosmically speaking, it's pretty quiet.

I wanted to thank somebody that sent us something in the P.O. box. Oh, boy. So, Felix. Oh, Felix, yes. Felix Carlson sent us a series of Rose Buddies themed soaps. There was really nice smelling rose and Merlot soaps. So thank you. Between Felix and Erica, this house is smelling so nice.

Yeah, we got great candles from Erica. Great soaps. But so many different onesies. Our baby is never going to want for clothes. Yeah, we have a lot of Bachelorette Rosebuddies-themed onesies, too, which is very nice. Very sweet. Thank you all for listening. Thank you for your kind gifts.

Oh, Griffin. Yo. We need to talk about Saxman. I can't believe we almost didn't talk about Saxman. Just join the Facebook group on Rosebuddy, the Rosebuddy's Facebook group. You'll recall last week we were talking about signature dance moves, and I mentioned there's a photo of Griffin doing an air saxophone, which I then posted in the Facebook group. And I believe it was John Riddham took that photo,

blacked out the background, and turned it into the greatest Photoshop competition to ever have existed. And the most impromptu, like, there is no prize. This all started over the weekend and has continued to today. It's absolutely amazing. Now there's actually a woman in the group that has created a cartoon of Good Good Sax Boy, which she is going to turn into t-shirts, I believe, for purchase. Yes.

And that a portion of the proceeds will go to charitable causes. That's very cool. So if you want your own Good Good Sax Boy T-shirt or perhaps a Rosebuddies-themed lapel pin is another option. Yeah. I think that's available in the Facebook group. But get on the facebook group catch the sax boy wave it's so it's so funny they're so good i don't know if you notice

that lynn put it as his uh yeah hamilton theme one somebody put griffin into hamilton and then lynn manuel miranda appreciated it so much it's now his twitter background and i told him like i can't imagine how many people you are going to confuse with that because there's so many there's so many fucking layers especially because he's hosting saturday night live this week so if he keeps that up a few more days like a lot of people are gonna see it who is this well see there's this podcast and they cover a show about this show i don't watch about this show that most of the listeners of the podcast don't actually watch anyway

anyway one of the hosts played air saxophone like a complete fucking idiot at a wedding once no you know what I don't regret it

and if your goal if any of those people making those photoshops was meant to try to embarrass me or make me regret having a very good time at my friend Pete

and Eva's wedding no you're their muse you've inspired a lot of our listeners I think that's like 99% but I think there's probably one person who's like oh I'm really gonna stick it to him this time my friend Pete and Eva's wedding? No, you're their muse. You've inspired a lot of our listeners. I think that's just like 99%, but I think there's probably one person who's like, oh, I'm really gonna stick it to him this time. No.

Okay. They're all done so lovingly. Thank you guys. They're beautiful. Thank you all. But if you're trying to make me look like a boob in front of my wife and internet, it won't happen.

I will not be boobed. That's it for this episode of Rose Buddies. We're going to see you next week. Stick around. Dial in to Bachelorette Canada. Have a few problems with it, but I am enjoying the heck out of this television show. It's been a really nice break from, you know, what we've grown accustomed to here in the States. We're going to get really snobby about it, too.

Like, this would never happen in Bachelorette Canada. It's changed us. Yes. Anyway, that's this episode thank you for listening i'm griffin mcelroy i'm rachel mcelroy when you're ready stay with us on this journey of joy spoiler alert she is up with soldier boy