Wonderful! - Ep. 48: Terrace House

Episode Date: December 6, 2016

We're back from our week of parental absence, and we're here to serve as exasperating ambassadors to our new favorite television show on Earth: Terrace House: Boys and Girls in the City. MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

Maybe you should go and do some contemplating. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. I'm the best rat and I'm rapping to your poolside. Here to find true love, one man for my whole life. Hi, I'm Rachel McElroy. Hi, I'm Griffin McElroy. And we're parents.

Yay! That wasn't very enthusiastic. We have a very special guest in the studio today. Hi! Hello, hello! Go ahead and introduce yourself. I'm Hamley. That's, I didn't, it's, first of all, it's great to have you here.

Went through a whole lot just to get you in the studio today. A lot of schedule coordination. He's already got a book deal. He got a book deal. And understandably so, because you're what? You're like nine days old? Yeah, that's right. And you are talking?

Mm-hmm. That's pretty wild. Rachel, you seem pretty chill with this arrangement. I'm like surprised. This is Rosebuddies. Mommy, I'm a talking baby. This is going to be the whole episode. I hope you like this creepy baby voice.

I don't like it. You don't like it. No. Should we start over? You know what it is? It's his mic. His mic is wrong. We need to adjust his mic.

We need to put a pop filter on it. Yeah. I really hit my plosives. He knows the word plosives, babe. This is crazy. it's beautiful um we are back after missing last week and if you're upset about that i don't know what to tell you we've been going through some stuff um our uh our baby for those for those that aren't in the facebook group or on twitter oh you're being so quiet I think he's good to go. I don't think you, Oh no, he's moving. Um,

our baby, we're going to, we're going to be at about this volume. Our baby was born December 5th. Nope. Incorrect. That's today. That was when he was due.

That's when he was due. That's today, babe. Uh, he was born November 25th. Mm hmm. Black Friday. Went into labor on Thanksgiving.

Yeah. Thank you, Henry. Yeah. Um, everybody did. Everybody did great Six pounds nine ounces It's got some nice blonde hair Beautiful blonde hair I mean it's got Rachel's

My pouty lips I didn't get up on this kid at all Well we don't know that Well maybe he'll age Into my particular form of Maybe he'll have your nimble gaming fingers that's oh so that's all i've got that is my my nimble gaming thing yeah okay i'm glad that you look at me and you see sometimes i could crush some donkey kong sometimes some nimble fingers is all it's all a girl, hey, baby. Our child is in the room. That's close.

Yeah, thank you all for sticking with us. A lot of folks sent us some great gifts through the P.O. Box throughout this whole process. Yeah, we got some great swaddling blankets that we're using regularly from. We're using one right now. From Angie Stancil, I believe. Thank you very much, Angie. We got home and we we have like four special like swaddling pieces of machinery but very few blankets so that was actually extremely helpful

thank you yeah um so we have a baby now and the it's gonna be pretty wild for and there's a break in the bachelor bachelorette franchise right yes thank you i do want to say henry you did come on thanksgiving which kind of harshed my buzz. You did come in the evening. So we did get that lunch in, I guess. But you know what? I don't want to. Way to put our baby on blast, episode one. It's episode, like, 40.

But he was kind enough to wait one day after we finished the Canadian Bachelorette. So thank you very much for that. We literally, things popped off the day after that episode went up, so. Yeah, oh, and we got a real nice note from Jasmine. From Jasmine, the best in the game. Jasmine herself, just thanking us for putting this community together.

Take this jacket off, because there's another person in the studio, and like the body heat is like different. He's already messing with the flow a little bit, I feel like. Maybe this was a mistake uh so all that to say we needed something to watch in the interim oh and did we find it guys um we actually probably would not have thought to look into the show that we're talking about today without the help of some of our rosebuddies listeners who recommended it to us thank you all our lifesavers it's probably the most fun i've had watching television this year if not like

the past few years that is not an exaggeration yeah we're talking about terrace house boys in the boys and girls in the city and i have to really every time i say it people think i'm saying terrorist house but it's not yeah or tara's house no terrorists like the what what's a terrace even it's like a balcony or something yeah all right it's like that but house boys and girls in the city it is a japanese reality show that is on netflix and you go watch it go watch it immediately you know what i looked up today what did you look at i wanted to let our listeners know we'd be talking about the whole season oops we watched 46 episodes we just had a baby we had some time on our hands 46 episodes now they're

short right they're only 30 minutes so that's a little bit still an unconscionable amount of television to watch and because we started i feel like we started watching it like the week of thanksgiving yeah uh we started like that monday or tuesday yeah and now it is so over the course of two weeks we finished the whole show whoops um it is it is even if you think it is not going to be your jam i guarantee you it is going to be your jam it is one it is one of the most finely crafted reality shows i've ever seen complete with like narrative arcs that put scripted shows to shame it is it is the best reality show i've maybe ever seen and i'm so excited to talk about it yeah so so here's what i thought so since we watched the whole season i recognize that a lot of our listeners have not had the time or capacity to do so so i know that like our my family and your well your our family uh

specifically justin and travis just told me he's dipping travis is dipping into now and i know they're not finished so i don't want to spoil it for them and i don't want to spoil it for the rest of our listeners so i think maybe for the first 20 minutes we'll probably at least 20 minutes we'll talk about the show generally and then we'll start talking about characters and if you hear a character's name that you don't recognize you should probably tap out because here is the thing and i know there's some people who just aren't going to listen and they just want to hear us talk about it and you y'all can hang that's fine i would still encourage you to go listen some of the best stuff that happens in this show happens in the last like five episodes the last five

episodes of this show it's so good because i was so sad that it was ending because we don't have another television show to leapfrog to right now uh we're talking about getting back into top chef but um we're not gonna do a talk no no no no podcast um i mean it's just gonna be like a tom colicchio fan cast oh oh we're good let's drop it down a few decibels um the last five episodes of this show you're all worried like oh no it's ending it's ending and then the last five episodes of this show, you're all worried, like, oh, no, it's ending, it's ending. And then the last five episodes just come in like it's fucking miraculous the things that happened in the last five episodes of this show. So let's kind of let's so how how is this show different? Maybe. So there's a lot of comparisons to real world.

A lot of people talk about it as real world because it is boys and girls in a single dwelling. is real world because it is boys and girls in a single dwelling i was trying to think if i could do the whole intro that they do um for each episode which is konbanwa which means good evening that's like one of eight japanese words i know yeah maybe we should talk about like that like so um rachel and i went to japan on our honeymoon in 2013 for two weeks for two weeks we took a two-week trip went to tokyo we went to hakone which they almost went to uh and which is like this hot spring resort town about an hour and a half outside of tokyo and then we went to kyoto um which is the old old capital of japan and uh just like a lot more traditional and a lot more like older a lot of like historic historic stuff like that yeah um it's the best trip i've ever taken in uh like the best two weeks of my whole life and i think we both like are since we got back like

since the day we got back like we've just been dying to get back to some capacity it will be a while now yeah i don't know if henry will well if henry's book does really well that's a good point maybe his tour will take us there yeah i want to go to thailand we can go to both i don't understand why it has to be in either or um so i i don't here's the thing i'm trying to think of the best way to talk about this like i wouldn't say you and i are like huge buffs on japanese culture like the the way i was the best way I can describe it, and I hope this is not, like, reductive at all, is, like, I love Japan because we went there and it was, like, the best place I've ever been.

But I'm not, like, a huge, like, anime guy. Like, it's not coming from that. Like, I think there is probably an impression that, like, if you're a nerdy dude who plays video games and you're into japan stuff then you're into like i guess like otaku culture and that's that's not that's really not where it's coming from no it's not like i met griffin and you know he revealed to me his deep love of everything japanese no i mean i mean i've played fucking japanese video games in my life so maybe this

is like a weird caveat to put in there but But like, I just genuinely think it is the coolest country from like a tourism standpoint. And like, Japanese food is my favorite food. But we've never watched like a Japanese television show before. We watched a lot while we were over there. And you know, there's no very few subtitles. And so it was all kind of novel, I guess. Yeah. Well, so let's go back to talking about the format.

Well, all that was to say, like, I loved Terrace House, but it's not my, this was not our, this isn't our niche. No. It's just fucking great. Like, it's just great. No, yeah. Like, if you're listening to this and you haven't checked it out because you're like, well, I'm not a huge fan of everything Japanese.

Like, neither are we. So so the show so the show so the show is set up kind of like the real world uh three men three women live in a house together um and you follow them around as they live their lives it's in it's in tokyo at an undisclosed location in tokyo um yes and uh it takes place over the course of what starts as 18 weeks but then gets extended to like 36 weeks and i think it ends at 48 weeks and that's so almost a whole year that's about where the similarities end to the real world because there are a bunch of different components broadly speaking it is a show in which these six people three men three women try to date each other there's two things there's really two things that they just try to do

uh and that is either date each other or work towards their extremely lofty ambitions or towards their or or not not all of them are quite so lofty with their ambitions right those people date the ones who aren't lofty ambitions they they just date uh and that's fine you know chase chase your bliss um and what's what's really wonderful about the show is that everybody is supporting for the most part everybody's supporting everybody else in those two endeavors yeah so there's people come on the show, I want to be a professional ballerina, even though there's like three of those jobs per year. And everybody's like, you can do it.

Work really hard. Well, yeah. So that's one key difference. So unlike the real world where people kind of pick up and move their lives to wherever the season is, these people all live and maintain their jobs in the city that they already are in. Some of them come from outside of Tokyo. Yeah. But most of them already have work set up so unlike real world there's not you know there's not some big job that all six of them are expected to work at they have their lives

outside of the house and in fact um because the working day is like the the expectations of the working day are fairly you know long long hours uh there's a lot of time where you're just not they're just not at the house like most of the scenes don't have all six people in them because people are constantly at work yeah some characters um just like you never see like you don't you there will be whole episodes where they are not present they travel a lot to other countries so like do well and so each each episode is a week so what we're seeing is an entire week distilled into one episode uh so you'll usually see everybody at some point but sometimes they're only in an episode for a few minutes um another

thing and i we're kind of verging on spoiler territory here but i'm not going to reveal anything too much uh that sets it apart from real world is the cast switches out constantly. Yeah. So this is interesting. You know, on real world, a lot of times people will get removed from the show by vote of their castmates or, you know, they have some kind of tragedy or emergency. On this show, the cast will remove themselves if they feel they have accomplished what they wanted to while they were there if they've gotten everything that they think they're going to get out of the house or they want to focus on school or they want to focus on their you know baseball season or or whatever they will remove themselves from the house

which is which is staggering which is sometimes with almost no notice at all. They're like, I'm leaving Terrace House tomorrow. So the cast is, no joke, every two or three episodes, somebody's dropping. And usually the same day or the next day after they leave, somebody new comes in. And it's the same gender. So they always have that three on three. And that opens up a new dating opportunity. Like, this is a show about like shipping real people like and that's that's something that we do constantly when we're watching bachelor right

and bachelorette like oh those two are so cute together um and that's like that is all this show is i'm not kidding guys like there's no the big thing that we haven't talked about there's no fighting really and when there is fighting it is usually over something that starts out fairly banal and then like kind of snowballs into a bigger thing but there's no like i don't think anybody yells there's no yelling we watched 46 episodes of the show nobody ever yells there's no like yeah because it's a different and we have to be careful here because i really don't want to like, oh, well, that's just Japanese culture. Because this show is absolutely not representative of what every Japanese person is like. Yeah, they're still casting.

These people are still deliberately chosen. If we thought that this was representative of a typical Japanese life, then we would be saying that every japanese person is either a model or an entertainer or a student of some sort or a dancer or a dancer yeah um but there's broadly speaking there's no there's no like there's no artificial like drama and there's no like buck wild fights like it is the it is the antithesis of are you the one this last season of, are you the one where there were like fistfights every episode and there were, uh,

you know, people would just get like too fucked up and couldn't handle it. And then would like, you know, attack somebody else or, you know, there's no geo. If you combined all of the nastiness that happened across the entire,

like series that we watched, it would not equal one day of geo's nastiness on. Are you the one? So like, it is a very, um of geo's nastiness on are you the one so like it is a very um it's a very reserved show by which i mean like it's it you don't get a lot of stuff like if you want these two these two people who you think are cute together to kiss they're gonna take a dozen episodes to get there and i'm curious and this comes up later in the season i'm curious how popular this show is in japan because the cast members seem to have a real awareness of the responsibility of being on this show like like i am on display uh i want to be seen as somebody who

is a high achiever you know, and who is handling this appropriately. Judging by the number of followers they all have on Instagram, because I did definitely start following some of them, it's pretty fucking popular. Okay, good. It's a pretty popular show. The other thing I'll say before we get to the panel part of it is that there are no confessionals.

Yes. Unlike real world, there is no room where they go in by themselves and talk directly to the camera so if you're gonna find anything out about what people are thinking you're gonna have to hear them say it to somebody else which is a huge shift so that combined with i i i feel like everything we've said so far makes this sound like a very dry very boring show where nothing ever happens which isn't true the characters and i i feel comfortable using that word because like i can remember all of them i can remember there were there were i don't want

to reveal how many people are on the the uh what is available on netflix right now because i feel like there are more than six yes definitely uh that's yes um i feel like their characters like i can remember each and every one of them, and there's a lot of them. Yeah, because you find out, so when somebody enters, you find out their age, you find out their occupation, you find out if they're single or not,

and then what their type is, like right away. It's like the Walking Dead. Rachel made a point of it. It's like the three questions they ask on Walking Dead. How many people have you killed? Yeah. It's so like, the characters are so good.

They're so wonderful, and you're rooting for them so much i am i this is this is the god's honest truth and rachel can attest to this i cried watching this reality show yeah because of one of the characters me too um like you want them to you want them to date right like that's a natural response and like this podcast is built on the back of like oh man these two real people on this reality show should kiss um so that's not so weird you also want them to like do good you want them to like you want them to achieve this like some of their like impossible dreams uh so much and when they do it's fucking incredible like it's kind of like to make a tie to bachelorette canada which we just finished watching and we said you know you can watch a reality show where

people are decent and and still enjoy it because you're rooting for them and that's the way terrace house is like you're rooting for these people and they're easy to root for because they're like for the most part they're great like they're so great yeah um and there's no there's no intervention there's no producer intervention or if there is it is extremely close yeah it's just and and to like to a fault sometimes because there's some episodes where just like nothing happens it's just building up to these two are finally going to go on a date um so there's some episodes were just like they i don't think they got their story right but that just makes it so good well and yeah this is a good transition so the other reason you're rooting for them is because you're watching

it with a panel uh who griffin and i started referring to as our friends. Yeah, so this is one thing where I feel like I can say there are a lot of Japanese TV shows and reality shows where there is a panel, most of the time, sort of picture in picture in a little corner of the screen, sort of reacting to to things as they happen in the show itself so this is not a super uncommon thing but this was the first time where i really got the value of that yeah because it is these it's uh it was six uh people of various sort of roles uh in the entertainment industry i don't know any of them yeah we don't we don't know what they're famous for no uh i i know one of the guys uh tokue was is a host of some some different stuff yeah they

seem like very established like either comedians or actors there's five of them there's uh you who is sort of referred to as like the the mom of the group yeah she's the older woman on the show uh who makes some inappropriate comments about some of the younger some of the younger dudes which is really great uh reina trindle uh who i think is a model yeah i'm not entirely sure she's like a younger very fashionable woman and her role tends to be summarizing what just happened yeah and there's tokoe who's they he's the older man of the group uh and he's pretty hysterical uh azusa is just another super fashionable comedian woman uh ryota yamasato i'm looking at these on wikipedia i don't think they ever announced what their names are or if they do it's in like they talk each other, and so you can pick it up.

He's sort of like, this is reductive, kind of pervy uncle guy. He says things and everybody just reacts to him like, you gotta stop. He seems like purely comedic. Like that is his role. And he is hilarious. And then there's a boy. There's always a boy. There's always a teen boy.

There's two boys. And he is hilarious. And then there's a boy. There's always a boy. There's always a teen boy. There's two boys. They rotate between boys. There's a boy who Rachel and I refer to as the boy prince. Who starts out. Because we did not know who he was. Starts out the season. And he was just there. And he was like 14 years old.

And he'd be like, so what do you think, boy prince? And he'd be like, I like her very much. And it's like, what are you doing? You didn't talk this episode, boy prince. He gets replaced with, I think, a 16-year-old um who's a bit more verbose but still doesn't why do you think they have they have somebody from that demographic do you think it's just supposed to be representative both of them from what they said on the panel like both of these boys are like successful in the film japanese film industry but like putting butts in the seats do you think or do you i mean do you think the

viewership for example is is that age and so they're trying to have somebody representative i don't know i couldn't i could make some bullshit but i really don't know yeah that's kind of what i assume because yeah it's weird everybody on that set is is an adult yes and then there's just a team just a boy um the the panel uh i know that was kind of long-winded like telling you who they are but like the dynamic between this panel is fucking amazing it is and it's the the way that it is cut into the show it always comes at a point where like there's some awkward ass dates on this show there are some awkward awkward scenes because a lot of these like relationships are kind of shoehorned in together

and when they don't work out they fail catastrophically and rachel and i have a hard time watching awkward television shows and so when those dates happen it's like oh my god i need my friends where are my friends where are my friends and then they're there to like completely dunk on these people occasionally they'll make references to to characters or shows or movies that we're not familiar with but most of the time they're just reacting in or movies that we're not familiar with. But most of the time, they're just reacting in the way that we're reacting to something that just happened. And so you just feel like, okay, good.

I thought that was weird, too. But when something, like, funny happens on the show, they show up and they, like, add to it. Like, it multiplies what happens and it affirms, your what you think about and it also like as as american viewers who don't like understand everything about uh you know how generally how stuff works uh in in japan like it adds some context yeah oh and and they're very they're very aware they're very aware of the show and and the the platform uh so at some point they acknowledge that they're on netflix there's a whole episode where ryota does like little commercials for netflix everything he says

he's like you know they have a lot of other great programming um but they're yeah they are that's a good point like they know that this show is getting out to a more global audience and so like i i i was not there's no language barrier to the show there gen there genuinely isn't there were no times where i felt lost or like i didn't understand obviously like we watched it with subtitles that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about like the context of like the humor is it just like it's still it still works it's not like it's not i think that there's a gross characterization of like japanese tv is like they're so their tv shows are just so wacky like they're so zany and weird can you believe like whenever you hear about like a japanese tv

show like like pops up on a blog it's like look at this yeah crazy thing it's not that it's just like lost in translation is a great example yeah that's not this yeah it really it really isn't um so the panel is so so spectacular and adds to the show in a really great example like without giving anything away a great example and um justin mcelroy was just tweeting about this is the meat crime episode there's an episode about the meat incident and i don't think we should get into it here i think we should get into it in like five minutes the panel adds a lot of value to that yes yes absolutely i do i actually want to talk specifically about that after the spoiler break uh because it's it's the best thing that happens in the whole show um

i think maybe we've gone about as far as we can go talking about the show generally it is it's a show that will drip feed you good stuff yeah until something amazing happens and it is this release that is like so it's it's pure and wonderful it's also like if you are uh uh like as a person who wants to get back to japan so very badly and wants to travel and see more of Japan and who basically wants to eat Japanese food 24 hours a day, there is a bit of, like, tourism. They eat and they cook so much amazing looking food at their house. So that's the thing. The people that are selected for the show are generally pretty hip, it seems like. They're either, you know, artistic or in fashion or modeling and they're all you know like 18 to 30 so they seem to know all the cool restaurants and like cool

clubs and so you get to go to all these places that just look incredible uh so we've enjoyed that part too yes um okay i think we should talk a little bit more in detail if you thank you for joining us we'll be back with i don't know what we're going to talk about next week. We'll figure it out as we go. So, yeah. So, we're going to start talking about the cast in chronological order. In some of the moments. Well, I don't think we talk about it in chronological order. I think, first of all, thank you for listening to Rose Buddies. See you later. The thing about what I like about chronological order is that people can hop out when they hear a name they don't know. That's fair. Okay.

Well, let's give them, let's at least give them power rankings. Can we do that? Because I want people to know how they rank up. Okay. We'll start with the original six. The six people who start the house. And this should be fine for you to listen to if you haven't. Yeah, because you'll get this episode one uh there is makoto uh mako-chan who is a uh baseball player in a college baseball player who's in his

like last few months and he has this like tale of redemption where like for one year he like slacked off and quit the baseball team and now he's like working so hard to get back in his coach's good graces which is weird because we we're watching Friday Night Lights right now also. That's the other show we've been sort of binging. And there's a lot of similarities there. Yeah, so he's like a senior. Yeah, it's his last, I don't know how it works, but it's his last year playing baseball. And so he's trying to like, he's trying to work it out.

He's still kind of lazy. Minori, who is a model model one of uh let's see one two three four well this list says four but there has to be more yeah uh and she is she's also kind of a kind of lazy like she she uh comparatively right like compared to other folks working at the house and there's some conflict like because she has this part-time job. And so she's trying to, like, figure out how much time she wants to spend on that. And how much time she wants to be a model. Is she the one?

She ends up in the relationship. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. There's Yuki. Tap is basically what everybody refers to him as. Yeah, on the panel.

On the panel, they call him Tap because he is a tap dancer an incredible tap dancer so the best moment of his sort of role is like one of his uh last episodes and by the way now that we're after the spoiler break we can kind of talk about the fact that everybody's the the cast that you end with is there's nobody left from the cast that you start yeah it's literally i i was reserved in talking about that before the spoiler break, but they switch out so quickly that by the end of the season, it is a completely unrecognizable cast. And that's not a bad thing because it's a really great cast they end up with. But he is a tap dancer. And for six episodes, he's just kind of a very overbearing dude who wants to like comment on what everybody else's dreams are yeah he seems really judgy and wants everybody to be as ambitious as he is and if they're not

he seems to have like a very stern reaction in episode three he like makes two of the women cry because he's like your dreams are stupid yeah like like i don't understand your dreams they don't make any sense but then in like episode six or seven they go to see one of his tab shows and it is like this fucking like uh uh like shamalan like twist because it's the best thing ever he's like a prize-winning tap dancer it's it's the dopest shit ever it is such a great like rachel and i were just like mouth a gable looking at each other at this scene. There's Mizuki, who's an office worker who doesn't get, like, she doesn't get a lot of stuff. I think, like, she tries to get a couple relationships going with a couple of the boys.

Is she the office worker that also works as a barista? Yes. Okay. So that is her other thing. But, like. She's the one who tap makes cry right because she wants to open her own shop and he's like that doesn't make i don't understand how would you do that that doesn't seem like you have any plans in place yeah uh there is uh tatsuya uh or uchi because his last name is uh uchihara uh uchi is a hairstylist oh my gosh who works at like the

coolest looking hair salon that i guess is only open like two days a week and he makes a really bad first impression uh we saw a lot of folks like to talk about like they were kind of uncomfortable because in the first episode like uh i think uchi sort of leads this charge and is like well this is great the women can all cook and the men can and it's like oh dude no that's uh but he also like uh he also dates all three of the women in the house he has what's called uchi week in one of the early episodes uh in which he takes each of the women on a date to like figure out who he likes which is like bizarre but also like one of the dates is really sweet and then uh spoiler here uh this is the first relationship that we get

out of this show is is him and minori and there's some stuff that happens between those two that is so fascinating to watch uh including the meat incident which should we just talk about the meat incident now well let's finish the cast oh the sixth the sixth person uh in the original cast is yuriko who is a med student um who tap kind of tries to date but she uh she's like she's really busy with med school and also she wants to get back with her ex-boyfriend who is also a med student yeah so uh those are those are the first six that's what we start out with and we get a lot of pretty wild stuff with these six we get uchi week where uchi dates three of the women in the house in a single week.

And like the other two dudes are also kind of pursuing the other. There's very little jealousy in the show because there's lots of times where it's like, I'm interested in this person. Well, I'm interested in the same person. Well, let's both date them and see what happens. Yeah. But there's no, there's no like confrontation, really. There's no like, well, it's just like, oh, well, go for it.

And if she likes you better than that's just how it is. There's, there's no like well it's just like oh well go for it and if she likes you better than that's just how it is there's there's some serious conversations yeah there's not confrontation like fighting there's confrontation like yes but it's as long as that that stuff stems from like when you go behind their back to like bad talk the other person who is a suitor for the person that you're into which happens happens, which does happen a couple of times. Um, but like, there's a,

there's a weird stoicism on both sides of the aisle. It's not just like, I'm not just talking about the dudes, like the women also, it started when the show starts out, everybody's into Makoto, the baseball player. Uh, and they go on some dates with them and it's never like a thing.

It's never like a, a, a sticking point. Nobody ever fights about it. It's just like, well, let's see what happens. Uh, which I thought was really interesting. Like on you the one it's like you looked at the person i matched with last week so i'm gonna punch you in the neck now yeah it just like it

makes me really wonder about how this show is built like how it got started out because everybody goes on and the understanding is you are going to date other people on the house. Like, that's not something that, you know, most reality shows, it's like, oh, maybe that'll happen as a side effect of all of us being in the same place. This show is like, you're single, I'm single, let's go on a date. Let's talk about the mean incident. Now that we've gotten through the first six. And we'll go through some, I don't, there's so many cast members, I think we should just focus on our favorites and like their best moments. we'll go through some i don't there's so many cast members i think we should just focus on our favorites and like their best moments um but of that original six and actually it was after a

couple people had shuffled out because armon and hikaru and um i think arisa were in the house at this point there is the meat incident which is sort of the first like truly standout moment of the show it is a two episode dramatic arc in which uh uchi who works at this really slick salon uh there's a lot of scenes of him like cutting the other people's hair uh and he's fucking great at it like he's a very very good which somebody will like come back from work and they'll have like this fresh haircut and i'll be like oh yeah you know they swung by uchi's place uh but he gets this really fancy waigu beef uh from a client who came to a salon and like shipped it across the country to him as a gift and uh at this point him

and minori are dating uh the the model uh who's in the original sex are dating and they've been in a relationship for a bit and it's really cute well they have kind of a weird relationship weird relationship because they're both extremely quiet and somewhat passive-aggressive towards each other um but it's like the first sort of romantic payoff that you get in the whole show and so i feel like i was attached to it because of that um but minori uh while while he is at work minori's like oh we don't have any food in the fridge let's eat his fancy gift steaks and so they cook it up and and her and a couple of the other guys in the house eat all his fancy wagyu beef and then he comes home and is so pissed off yeah he's devastated um and explains like that client is like important to him

and send him the meat as a gift and sent like a letter explaining how to cook the meat and how to eat the meat properly and so his his minori is like apologizing and he's not having any of it and it's like a whole big thing and the best part about this is the panel's reaction to it because they just drag this they they drag everybody but especially uchi who gets so upset that his his his special meat got eaten now i'm 100 on his side on this if i got some fancy steaks yeah and you ate all of it i love you and i want you to be nourished but that that dog won't hunt yeah no it's it's funny because i think on most reality shows when this happened, it would be over-dramatized.

And on this one, the panel actually makes fun of the fact that it has become so dramatic. They do this thing a lot where they talk about scenes that they want to happen, which is an interesting thing. They're talking about it like it is a scripted show, but obviously it isn't. And so they talk about they want this confrontation between uchi and minori uh where uchi is like a like a jealous lover almost like did you cook the meat with oil

you didn't need to there was a fatty cut of meat um and it was like they keep going on and on and on about how this process could be how this this scene could be this huge dramatic flare-up which is sometimes i mean they're kind of right because it does turn into like a huge deal in the house so much so that it carries over into a second and it's just it's symptomatic of the other problems that i feel like uh minori and uchi have which is like they just they don't communicate well they don't want the same thing no and this is just an example of like him being feeling disrespected so this ends with her uh getting shot down by him he's like

i'm too angry to talk to you right now and then like he's he's like sulking for like a couple days and doesn't hang out with everybody else and some folks try to come and talk to him and it culminates in this scene where he minori goes to see him and he like breaks down in tears which is like not there's also not a lot of like raw emotion like that there's there's not a lot of like crying uh on that well i guess there is a little bit but uh uchi is this sort of silent stalwart dude and he breaks down in tears over this meat but he explains like it was oh it's just so much other stuff and it's been so stressful living and i feel like you and i don't talk anymore and yeah i'm worried about us and like this meat incident turns into like a very serious

conversation that they both walk away from with like an even better relationship and it's weirdly like it resolves in a really sweet, really tender way. Yeah. So, like, it's kind of a perfect example of, like, oh, this is a charming little kerfuffle that they've gotten themselves in. Oh, no, like, this is actually a big deal. And then it turns into, like, something cute. That reminds me. So the other thing that we get introduced to through uchi and minori is uh the japanese style room yes there's like a room in their house that they did not know about they're the first

couple it's it's it's kind of like a boom boom room if you think about it yeah it's like it is a japanese style room and that it's which means like the mats right on the floor that you sleep on. Yeah. There are other rooms where there's like a three bunk bed situation. Well, I mean, there's two on the ground and then one sort of positioned up above the two other ones. And that's what the boys' room and the girls' room looks like. But this is a room designed for like a couple to sleep in right yeah and so since they're the first official couple they go into the room yes um and and and it's it's interesting because the show is i don't want to say prudish

but is very conservative yeah uh again again compared to any compared to any show we literally any show we've ever talked about on this podcast yeah uh and and so it's interesting that they're like all right this is the room where you get to go be a couple and do the things that couples do um which it turns on a dime like like it is very much like did you hold her hand on this date yes i did and then once they're in a relationship all all bets are off like hey y'all fuck y'all fucking today um you know i was just thinking about it but i was thinking about the panel and how great it is is that sort of like like in america like i feel like we've only just started doing that with like talking dead and like i mean that's sort of chris hardwick's

whole like uh industry it's like the after show but this is simultaneous during show right yeah i guess we're kind of in that category too right like there are people who listen to this and get the same stuff out of this for the bachelor and bachelorette that we get out of the panel where it's like you know people talking about like reaffirming your things you wouldn't just watch the panel you know like people just listen to our show without watching anything i wish we could do it simultaneously i wish we could do it somehow a simultaneous rose buddies episode while i i can't the logistics of that are a lot yeah it's too stressful um so that was the meat incident we can't describe it in a way that is going to be good but like the panel's reaction to it rachel and i watched that our first day as

parents we were uh we were in at the hospital just sort of like curled up in her hospital bed with the ipad in our lap watching the meat incident episode and just i felt bad for you because like you were recovering like cracking up laughing at the meat incident uh because it's such a it was such a weird like thing for everybody in the house to get embroiled in this huge fight about that turned into like a really really sweet uh like makeup like oh man so good you just want to hit some of our faves let's talk about some of our favorite people and like some of the best like should we do here i kind of want to do like a top three boys like who's the best boys who's

the fate who's your favorite hottest boys you know freshest boys who's like funny and like cute oh is he waking up oh no oh god no he's okay okay um number three boy oh number three who's your number three boy and i think we should come to a consensus i'll say this he was a late for me you know who my number three boy is who and we can talk about this because this is another relation is it armon uh no god he ranks so much higher than that you should know that uh yuki yuki then but then again he was like one of the last people to show up so we are getting into like super spoiler territory yeah there's a boy named yuki he's very good let's talk about arman because like he's the next he's actually the next person that comes into the house so arman oh this is helpful the wikipedia page lists how many episodes he was on all of them um okay this is this this is this

won't give anything away so the least number of episodes that a person was on is eight arman was on 36 episodes hell yeah so my dude arman is uh i believe uh half iranian half japanese dude from hawaii yeah so uh whenever a new character is introduced you get this like sequence of like uh shots from behind them or like below their neck so you can't see them until they are revealed when they walk into the house for the first time uh and so he's having a conversation in english um and with some of his friends in hawaii like sitting on a beach um he is an aspiring firefighter yeah um and he just he just doesn't leave a lot of folks will if they get shot down in a relationship that they pursue or they have trouble sort of making progress with their career or their dream or whatever, they say. Or if it becomes clear that they're not going to match with anybody in the house. Yes.

Then they say, well, I've had fun here, but I've gotten everything I'm going to get out of this, so I'm going to bounce. My dude, Arman, is like, I'm good here. Like, this is a dope setup this is a nice ass house in like one of the most expensive cities in the world that i don't have to pay for uh and it's sick and i don't have to i i'm you know he doesn't work for some of the time although he gets a job at like a landscaping place his very first episode he shows up and he's got this very specific valuable skill which is that he is bilingual he can he can speak english and so trilingual he speaks uh i think farsi too oh yeah and so he shows up and and it's

like i'm i'm gonna i completely forgot about this first episode goes on an interview says i'm gonna teach english and everyone's like that makes a lot of sense that's a really marketable skill so there's a scene they filmed him going in for this interview and then like later in the episode he's down in the game room with the other boys and they're like how did it go he's like oh i didn't get the job and it's never brought up again he never ever tries to do this it makes it seem like there is only one place in which to do this and he doesn't get that job so he just doesn't do it he's there to party and he is he's really he's a funny like very very very charming dude um but it's it's just interesting that everybody everybody else

leaves everybody else is like i think i'm i think i've i think i've gotten everything i want to get out of this so i'm gonna go armand just doesn't leave armand is there for the rest of the season and that means like the whole you know him so well by the end of it. Like, I love this dude. And all I wanted was for him to have a girlfriend. I just, because he tried more than any other person who is in the show. He dates so many people and gets shot down so many times. He has a really great date with Arisa, who's the next woman that comes into the house. She is a, she's a hat

a hatter there's a word for a person to make uh who makes hats do you know it's like a fancy word oh uh haberdasher haberdasher is that right i think so uh they and and he tries to date her and it seems like it's going well uh and he has like he goes to some party and gets really drunk and is hung over and forgets the next morning while he's super hung over that they were supposed to go on this date at an amusement park and so this poor dude and this poor woman go on this date where armand is like sneaking off to barf every hour uh it is it's so but it's so funny that's what was so funny so you can tell like us as the viewer watching this date happen and we can tell he's not feeling well but we only find out that he has been sick like six times

because he gets back and he's telling his housemate about it and he's like oh man he's like i had to keep running to that bathroom and like this is something i want to like stress about like why i enjoy this show so much is when this dude got woken up by his date to go and he was hung over and still went to the amusement park and was like barfing the whole time I'm watching this I'm thinking like I can't fucking wait to hear what my friends have to say about this and sure enough the panel comes in and just like opens up on this dude they're they're really for a long time they're really hard on Armand because he is the exception

in that he does not have a specific goal. You find out at the end that, like, he gets a job at this landscaping company and you see, like, two scenes of him working, but he's actually working there, like, the whole time. And, like, for example, he enters the show as an aspiring firefighter. And the reason I laughed is that that never comes up

it's also a weird thing like just go to firefighter school i guess well yeah it's a weird thing to travel to japan yeah to be a firefighter in hawaii here's the thing dude like i if i was offered obviously not now but if i was if i was armand's age and i was like come to japan what's your dream and it's like i'll make up a dream if he needs to get to live in Japan for a bit. So part of the reason that he is fluent in Japanese is that he lived the first 10 years of his life in Japan. So yeah, he knows the lay of the land a bit. But Armand's just great. Armand is, I think Armand is great because he is, he's your constant.

At first I thought he was kind of a bum. I felt like he was kind of mooching off of the experience in a way that nobody else was. It wasn't until the very end of the show where I wanted so badly. Again, the last five episodes, something crazy happens to Armand. And then things get good for the boy his in like ah we were cheering we were we just finished it today we were or last night we were cheering for this dude like i i i've i've never been rooting for somebody uh i rooted for arm on more than anybody else in the house because he had the most he had the most to gain i guess griffin looked him up on

instagram i'm following that on instagram he might listen i don't know no probably not we could get i will somebody tweet at him um like i've never rooted for anybody like that on a reality show before because like he goes through some shit on this show and he's such a nice dude and he's there for so long that you get to know him and you see him fail in all of these different relationships and you just want it to work out for him so bad i've never felt that like empathy for somebody on a reality show before and the reason that it works is because i bought into it 100 because there's no there's no um interventions from from the people making the show and so the things that happen on the show you just accept wholesale like this is real like these two people are dating they're really dating they're not dating for like the show and so the things that happen on the show you just accept wholesale like this is real like these two people are dating they're really dating they're not dating for like the show and

they weren't forced together by some by some producer like these two are dating nobody makes them date nobody picks the location for them nobody sets rules around the number of dates or how long you know you have to make something work it's on them. So if they go on a date and it's not good, they just don't go on any more dates. So this is actually the second run. This 46-episode run, Boys and Girls in the City, is actually the second of the Terrace House saga. The first I don't know anything about

because it's not subtitled anywhere or available, really, to watch anywhere. But it also ran for a while as well. And we should also mention, because we haven't talked about it, there's a third run called Aloha State that takes place in Hawaii that is supposed to start airing. If you don't live in America, I think some of our Canadian listeners, lucky you, I think you can actually start watching it in real time right now.

I've seen that from some Canadian Rosebuddies fans. America, I think we're getting it in January. I'm waiting with bated breath. But as long as this show has been running, only like five relationships have come out of it. Most folks just leave. And they don't find romance or happiness in the house at all. So it's not like something that's just like a guarantee. So like, I don't know, man.

When it happens, it's just really good. Armand is the best. So my number two is yuki yuki's really great and yuki yuki is the last boy that comes in the house so i don't want to talk too much about it i don't want to talk no matter what i don't want to talk about the last five episodes because they're too good to spoil for anybody even accidentally yeah but he's just a good boy and we can talk about his you want to tell him what his career is oh so so we've seen a tap dancer we see a ballerina at one point and then yuki comes in and yuki is also a dancer um and an important thing is that when somebody comes on the show you don't see their intro in

the title sequence until after they've entered so when he enters we don't know anything about him and the cast is asking him like oh what kind of dance do you do because at this point they've entered so when he enters we don't know anything about him and the cast is asking him like oh what kind of dance do you do because at this point they've seen a couple dancers go through and he starts talking about crumping he's a crumper and he talks about how his dream is to be in the background of a chris brown video which is such a weird sentence to say yeah um and he's he is there are a couple times in this he also works at a burger restaurant he works at a burger restaurant yes he's a very good boy there's a couple times in this show where just the array of personalities that are in the house and at a given time things kind of stagnate there's a really bad dip in the middle and it's

still good tv it's still like fun to watch but there's a really bad dip in the middle and it's still good tv it's still like fun to watch but there's times where like the cast is really close and i love watching like genuine friendships get made that's actually one of my favorite things about bachelor and bachelorette is when they you know when you get that uh jade and carly like friendship real like i like watching people become friends and this this is a show where that happens a lot of times but there's certain times where things stagnate a bit, and people don't really talk when they have problems. And they're just not, they just don't interact with each other very much. And then somebody will come into the house and, like, put the issues up on the table.

I'm talking specifically about Natsumi here, who's a very controversial figure in the show. Yeah. I liked her. Rachel did not. I did not. But she got up in the mix, and Yuki does the same thing, where he's like, hey figure in the show. I liked her. Rachel did not. I did not. But she got up in the mix. And Yuki does the same thing where he's like, hey, this thing sucks.

Let's all talk about it or else we're not going to pull through. We're not going to be friends. There's certain people who are like, I want us to be friends after we leave this house. Let's stop being polite and start getting real. Yeah, can you imagine anybody on this season saying the cliche, I'm not here to make friends?

No. I feel like they all... If you're not there, leave. That's the only thing that's here. They're all literally there to make friends. Yeah. And so Yuki does that. And he also, like, he's also a great dude.

Oh, another one of his arcs is that he's trying to date one of the women in the house, but is having trouble passing his driver's test. Yeah. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. He's like, he's real funny and sweet. And he has this kind of flirtation with one of the women. And he, it's just adorable to watch.

There's a, we also learned that there's a little magnetic che Chevron, like, sticker thing that you have to put on the front and back of your car for the first year that you're a driver in Japan. Yeah, when he finally gets his license, they show him getting in the car and putting these decals on the car, which we found out you have to do when you get your license. I feel like that's one of like dozens of little things that like, cause I, we studied a lot about Japan before we went, I put together like a 50 page document that was like sort of our travel guide. And I took a Pimsleur class in the,

like, uh, and, and basically that just amounted to me like being able to say like, I would like two seats at this restaurant and two beers, please. Uh, I,

I, I didn't even approach fluency, but like, I feel like I learned a lot about not so much Japanese culture, but stuff like that and also, like, conversation. Not the language itself, but, like, how it works just from watching the show. But, yeah, I thought that was really interesting. Why don't we do that in America? I guess we have the student driver flag that we put up when they're like learning but like it's crazy to think like well i passed one test i'm good to go forever yeah that you can't identify

on the road who is brand new um yeah yuki's good he comes in at the end so let's not spoil do you want to talk about our number one i mean i'm sure it's the same person right so hansan is the only person that comes his name is San is obviously the honorific he's Yuto Honda but I mean I think his real name is said once yeah everybody calls him Hansan

which is another like everybody has nicknames so that was actually one thing that I had a hard time I feel I even feel like I understand how like those honorifics like san and and chan and stuff like that work but like rika there's a girl named rico that they called rico pin and i didn't understand i didn't understand that and it makes it hard because essentially like they have two names kind of yeah and when you don't speak the language like it can be kind of

tough to keep yeah that's i think a lot of people that maybe tried to watch this show but bailed had difficulty. Because I know I did. When you first start watching, it's hard to keep everybody straight and get used to the pacing of the show because it's so unfamiliar. But I promise you, I'm so bad with names. There are characters on this show who I never really learned their name. And I still enjoyed it yeah um hansan is the only person that comes into the house with a significant other he has a girlfriend he is not he doesn't bring her then bring her but he's he everybody else is the house single and ready to mingle he is not he has a girlfriend and so the whole and

he is an architect and he is a very busy man and he wants to go to graduate school overseas he is an architect, and he is a very busy man. And he wants to go to graduate school overseas. He is building a front facade for a cafe in Tokyo. He has all of these little projects, but he's always hunched over his computer working. But it takes the—again, I mentioned those two things that everybody's there to do, which is date and chase their dreams. One of those is not happening for him he he leaves the house and still is in a relationship with his his girlfriend um so it's not like there's any drama there uh he's not this romantic conquest instead he is like he is this leader of the house yeah he's like a guardian angel almost where like um he's in there with a fairly

uh he was in there with a in that dip i was talking about where like everybody was kind of immature and uh not not the best arrangement of cast members yeah like like nobody seemed to really know how to take care of themselves like nobody could cook nobody would clean uh they would kind of bicker with each other and he would just drop these wisdom bombs there are countless countless scenes yeah where my favorite is is the conversation with arman which one the one where they're all talking about their ambitions and he's talking he's talking to armand who you know we know is is supposedly wants to be an aspiring firefighter uh and hansan is like i don't know that that's really what you want or really what makes sense for you he's like you're not you're

not supposed to be a firefighter you're just supposed to be happy like he says stuff like that that makes it sound like you're reading this off of something he is impossibly eloquent and every like every time anybody has any problem you just see like you the camera will cut like the scene will cut to him like in the kitchen working on his laptop and you'll see like uh you'll see like uh arisa walk in and you'll be like oh arisa's about to get a spoonful of wisdom. And it's all so... He's the sweetest dude. The episode where Griffin and I both cried involves him.

Yeah. I mean, everybody else does. He leaves at a certain point in his departure, like, weeping, weeping, weeping. Us and the panel, and everybody. The panel loves him. Everybody on the panel and like everybody the panel loves him like everybody everybody on the panel wants to marry han san at first i didn't buy into the hype because oh babe there was so much hype and and i just felt like he's not there to date you know he he doesn't seem particularly like interested in being part of the house and i was just like i

don't know that I buy into him being this really cool character. But by the end... Fucking rules. For sure. He's got a studio. Yeah. The Atelier.

Is that what... I was going to say that word, but I feel like I was going to screw it up. Yeah, it's like his workshop where he does his architect stuff. It's just so fucking cool. Yeah. Oh, and him and Arisa collaborate. That's it. A couple times, like, people are like, I'm working on, oh, yeah, Arisa is having this

show for her house. Hat gallery. Yeah. And he's like, okay, well, let me design a display stand for you. That's another thing. We talked about how you're either there to help other people date or to help them achieve their dreams. For a couple of them, especially Arisa is,

is the, the tab tabard haberdasher tabard asher is nothing. And she puts on this show and like, there's so many scenes of like Hanson designing these display stands and people coming to her, like the, the place where she's doing the show and like painting the walls and like building these stands for like, everybody is so kind to each

other yeah for the most part there are some there's some kerfuffles i'll admit it there's some fights that happen from time to time um but it never nothing ever gets out of hand they always want to resolve it there's always a push whenever anybody has a disagreement there is a push to get resolution what's great about hansan is like when the fights become there's natsumi who i brought up and rachel's not a fan of and i i still like her there were like she had a few like kind of kerfuffles in a row and it would always end with hansan just like flying in like batman and just be like here's what i think of here's where i think the communication breakdown is happening yeah just fix it not to me

my problem with her so she is she lacks some social skills which obviously that's just a reality for some people you know and it seems like she actually has like a real problem connecting with people you know and i and i get that um but i feel like she also kind of used that to her advantage she kind of plays it up anytime she gets called on something that could be construed as you know antagonistic or um you know i don't know unfeeling she's just always like oh well i i mean what should i should i not have said something should i should i not have been honest or Or, you know, am I supposed to pretend? You know, and I just felt like, you're playing it up, lady.

You know what you're doing. But I will say, she is also like that type of person that I talked about. A really great example of this is her and Minori were in the house at the same time. Minori is the model who was in the house first, who was dating Uchi. And they didn't get along because Natsumi made fun of their relationship because they were constantly having these little passive-aggressive fights um and so there were like there were some conflicts in the house because of that and she made everybody sit down and was like we're all being super polite to each other and that is no way for us to like live

together for as long as we're going to live together because we're just going to be walking on eggshells and so they have this like agonizing conversation that was really hard to watch and then by the time that she leaves her minoria are like best buds and there's like this huge tearful goodbye like the friendships that form in this show and the relationships that form in this show like are so like i don't know they're they're they're tested and like really really they're just so great i we've i think we're we're probably i don't know what else there is really to talk about yeah like this this stuff that griffin and i saw at the end is very dramatic and it's tempting to talk about but i don't want to ruin it for you watch the watch the show please god watch the show it's

my favorite show of the year a lot of people were watching westworld last night we were watching the finale of this show because it's it it was it's soothing it's it's it is it was soothing at a time where things for us are not even remotely soothing yeah um it is it is justin called it a spa day for your emotions i think is an accurate way to put it but like it is also this ideal of the show that i have been talking about on this podcast for a while where it's like you don't need all you don't need a bunch of bullshit you don't need a bunch of like scripted bullshit you don't need a bunch of like artificial fights you don't need two rivals built on the back of nothing or people chosen specifically because they're terrible right you don't need you don't need you don't

need things that you put in a show because you think like this this has to be like there has to be a villain there has to be a villain you don't need that stuff like and i'm gonna get super preachy here for a bit but i feel like when people started doing reality shows it was like we've moved so far away from what that ideal was like this is just real people just like us just doing their stuff and we're just really looking and seeing what's going on here i think especially that was like the the design of real world when it started out which is why we make keep making this comparison but like bachelor don't do that no more it's not like i cannot watch and i still love this show and we're gonna talk about it very soon january 3rd nick vial what's he up to i can't watch it without seeing the angles because they're because they're

not it's not hard to see like come on like there's gonna be a villain there's gonna be a bunch of this artificial bullshit and maybe bachelor's not the best show to talk about because it is a completely different beast from what from what Terrace House is but like it is so refreshing to watch a show where it's just like people living their lives and whatever happens is is real and maybe it's not explosive and maybe stuff doesn't happen every episode but when it does it the payoff for that is it's on this show has created a void for me now that nothing else I don't think is gonna fill because there is no other show i've watched like terrace house where it's like

you know this this this friendship that just happened is is real because it you know wasn't there was no staging to it this this relationship that happened took so long to get to and is so good because it seems like it seems so authentic yeah and i don't think it's i i think i would enjoy the show obviously like i'm a i i like japan and and um there that was certainly a reason why i enjoyed it but like i would enjoy it no matter where it was oh yeah no i mean and we'll we'll figure that out once they do the hawaii season yes although they it will still be i believe japanese-speaking cast mates and i assume so um so yeah that's a good point like that that will that'll show us i mean not that in january not that hawaii is like you know some bland place

no it's gonna be dope as fuck but like it's not the reason why this show works is because it is reserved and that's not that's not i mean i guess that's maybe a japanese thing but it's like it's just a it's just it is the opposite of of these like these crazy staged reality i can't let go of the difference the lack of confessionals make like i think that is a big part of it it takes you out of that like when it cuts to a person just talking into a camera first of all the whole time i'm thinking like did this happen before this fight happened did this happen are they being coached into sounding worse than they you know because we watch a lot of bachelor bachelorette where people will say despicable things on those one-on-ones.

And you'll think, did they get led to say that? Or is that actually how they felt? Or they have opportunities to contradict themselves or to talk trash about other contestants. That very well could have happened in Terrace House. But since it doesn't exist, we don't, you know, we,

we just take it at face value. It's a weird, like the show shifts perspective when you, when you do that, where it's like, I'm going to comment on the thing that you're watching right now. Like you don't need to. I am also,

I also watching it. There's a better way to get that information out there. Maybe that's not a good, like in bachelor, like the bachelor has to do that stuff i feel like and the bachelor it has to do that stuff because like setting up the scene like we're in hawaii and having a great time i'm really excited to go on these dates but like i totally get i totally totally get what you're saying like it yeah i mean think about like if after lauren b went on a date with ben she came back to the room and we watched her have a conversation with her bunkmates

about how the date went that would set a very different tone yeah and what if that after Paradise or whatever the after show is happened intercut with the with the rest of the show live nah that probably wouldn't be good

yeah that'd be hard to do but yeah I love the panel so much i can't imagine watching the show without the panel they get really horny at the end inexplicably yeah they the show is so reserved and so then it's funny to cut to the panel and have them like talk very explicitly about like like all sorts of things yeah um yeah that's terrace house that's terrace i don't know that this was our most like uh explosive hysterical episode people people i think a lot of times ask us to do shows or do episodes about shows we love like oh wouldn oh, wouldn't it be great if Griffin and Rachel did this show?

Wouldn't we love a show? We get into book reports here. We're not doing that thing that I talked about. We are not the panel in this episode. We are fucking, like, huge fans who, like, don't understand everything about the show, but, like, fucking love it so much. This is a paid Netflix advertisement. I know. Like like it's so good

if you know anybody at netflix please get them to put the first run of terrace like the fact that i have a month where i don't have new terrace house is terrifying to me it's terrifying there's there's our first joke of the episode um so what do we so so yeah so that's all we're gonna do for terrorist house at least until aloha comes out you know we're gonna get crazy up in aloha uh so what are we doing next week well i mean we have a couple suggestions oh yeah what were the suggestions one great american baking show no we have to stick to dating there There might be dating that happens on like, hey, great pie. Let's French. Let's French.

That's a good biscotti. Come here. Touch mouse. I would like to talk about the co-host of that show that isn't Mary Berry. Oh, yeah. No, I don't even remember his name. I don't either. It's not Paul Hollywood.

It sure as fuck ain't Paul. You know what? It actually looks like a dude that would would have the name paul hollywood because he's got like a lot of um uh ed hardy wardrobe and a little goatee and black spiky hair uh so yeah so at least for the next couple weeks we're going to stick to shows that we don't have to take notes on uh so we've gotten some suggestions to do an episode on our love. To specifically talk about how we got together. That could be fun.

That would be a short one, I feel like. That'd be an easy one to knock out. Just be like... That makes our relationship sound uncomplicated. It was. It was just like, what's up, what's up? You gonna do this thing? And you were like, yeah.

And then you got me pregnant. A real junior situation. It was a real junior sitch. A lot of tubes. Another thing I've thought about is just talking about the Bachelor, Bachelorette franchise generally. But I don't know if that would be...

Yeah, I wouldn't know what to talk about. Well, one thing that you and I floated was we go back and we watch the first season. Yeah, which is on ABC. Oh, is it? I thought it was on hulu no i think it's on abc okay okay um yeah so we're probably gonna stick with this like we're not gonna go episode by episode because we've only got a few weeks left until the new season so i think we're gonna do some some big i think maybe the last episode before, the last episode in December, maybe we do a preview? Yes.

Preview at? 30 women, y'all. 30. 30. 30 women. 30. 3-0. Nick will be choosing between 30 women.

XXX. That's historic, right? That's the most ever. It is historic, yes. Not just for this show. For our nation. For our world world for history and time and stuff for our civilization it is it is momentous nick don't drop this ball nick's totally gonna drop the fucking ball in me well i mean what do you mean by that what is he's just gonna step in it what is dropping the ball mean he's just really gonna goof in it. What does dropping the ball mean? He's just really going to goof it up, isn't he?

30 women? No way. No way. Yeah, so we're looking forward to that. For those of you that are wanting to do a fantasy league, we recommend therosereckoner.com. It was made by our fan, Drew Davidson, who put together a website for people to use, which we may use this time ourselves, because it's so much easier than keeping score on pieces of paper.

Yeah, it's fun if you've never done a league with us. This will be what? This will be like the two-year anniversary, or the one-year anniversary, when we start next season, because we started with Ben. We did start with Ben. Can you believe that? We haven't even been doing this show a year yet. Yeah. That's bonkers to me.

We've covered so much ground. Like, do you remember when we were talking about, like, Please Marry My Boy? That was this year. I know. That's crazy. 2016 was a wild one for us. Yeah.

You know, we have this new co-host. He didn't add a whole lot. No, well, he's like the boy prince on Terrace House. He's the boy prince of Rosebuddies. You all should see

the fancy coat he's wearing. He is wearing a very fancy coat. Also, he's in three very popular movies. Three box office chart toppers. He's waking up.

Oh, God, babe. We gotta end the episode. Oh, God, babe, quick. Please watch Terrace House. It's important to me. I won't talk to you unless you do whoa that's it that's where it is travis literally started watching it because just and i made a bunch of terrace house references on my bim bam today we talked about the omurice oh my god that's so good guys see this is gonna be this is gonna be rose place we're gonna be talking about fucking nick's season of bachelor we're gonna be like remember the omurice and if you don't if you don't get it then like it is it

is the codex through which you will translate dan brown style our fucking podcast i'm just hesitant to be so assertive because it is 46 episodes 30 minute long episodes that's 23 hours the way you said that like rachel it's not a big deal we have in the last two weeks we had a baby and almost one of those whole days we spent watching this show um we're really hoping though that our baby is now bilingual yeah it was it was immersion language immersion i almost said language immersion therapy that's not what it's called um it's also we i mean it's tough it's not even an easy show to watch with a baby because we have to read the subtitles i kept doing this thing where i like get on my i'd be watching it and like hanging out with you and watching it and then i like get on my computer real quick and

i'd look up and be like oh i have no fucking idea what's going on i know that kept happening i'd be looking down uh at henry because i'd be feeding him and then i would look up and i would have no idea where we were we had to rewind like a lot especially that panel that panel moves fast yeah um please watch terrace house we'll let you know in the facebook group what we're going to do for next week so keep an eye out there and thank you all for sticking with us last week while we were out. And thank you all again for all the very, very kind gifts. I cannot stress this enough. It means a lot

and we are so set up now because our nursery is just stocked with all your kindness. So thank you. Oh, here we go. Oh, he's getting hungry. Okay. Oh, I heard him poop. This kid poops like a train uh i don't remember how we end the show uh thanks for listening i'm griffin mcelroy i'm rachel mcelroy when you're ready final rose

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