Wonderful! - Roze Buddiez: Beauty and the Geek

Episode Date: April 26, 2016

Beauty and the Geek is like a little, mean time capsule of an era where reality shows just needed to be hateful and literally nothing else. It put a weird and bad taste in our mouth, and made us miss ...Are You The One — and, oh yeah, The Bachelor — desperately. Enjoy the episode! MaxFunDrive ends on March 29, 2024! Support our show now by becoming a member at maximumfun.org/join.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Maybe you should go and do some contemplating. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. Right reasons, right reasons, being a good girl for all the right reasons. I'm the bachelorette and I'm rapping to your poolside. Here to find true love, one man for the whole. You ready? Uh-huh. Hi, this is Rachel McElroy.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I said I was ready, but I had a mouthful of ginger beer. Go again, start from one. Back to places, places, Rachel McElroy. I said I was ready, but I had a mouthful of ginger beer. Go again. Start from one. Back to places, places. Curtains in 15 minutes. Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy.
Starting point is 00:00:34 This is Rose Buddies. Tale as old as time. Come here, my little teacup son. My little teacup son. What's the next line? Strong as they can be. I don't think it's strong as they can be. Barely even friends, then somebody ends.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Bends. Unexpectedly. Harmony. Harmony. Ebony and ivory. That's not what that song's about. No. Welcome to Rose Buddies. We're talking about beauty and the geek. I know you're hearing us say that, and you're saying to us right now, or maybe in the Facebook group, that it's not a dating show.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Listen, here's the thing. Part of me had my reservations about Beauty and the Geek, because it's not a traditional reality dating show. However, in this first episode... Romance. Fucking romance. So I think a lot of people are going to eat their words and eat their hats. fucking romance so i think a lot of people are going to eat their words and eat their hats and i think part of the reason that people may have reacted and said that this is not
Starting point is 00:01:32 a reality dating show is because they explicitly tell you in the narration this is not a dating this is not a dating show which is fair yeah um but to be fair their next sentence is this is a social experiment. We're very much into that. I mean, here's the thing. If we close off the social experiment door, then we will lose the potential of us doing a full-blown, full-series rewatch of Utopia. Which we're going to get back into someday. No, Griffin. I know it.
Starting point is 00:02:00 We're not going to do Utopia. This is Utopia. Let's make a brand new start. Who was it who did that? It was, oh God, it was the guy who was on American Idol and he became like a rock man. Son of. Chris Daughtry. Daughtry, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Is that right? Yeah, I think it was Daughtry. I don't think I ever knew that. No, I think you did. I think you know more than you think you do. I think you're much like the beauties in this house and that you know what's going on okay uh so this is beauty and the geek season one episode one uh year premiering 2005 on the wb terrible year no this is back with the wb was was pretty hot no i'm just saying the year was bad. Oh, okay. The show's premise is there are seven, quote, geeks.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Okay, you don't got to quote that. No, actually, you do got to quote that, because I had some reservations about the geeks. These are some fake geek boys. Yeah, seven geeks, seven, quote, beautiful women. At the beginning of the episode episode we watch their casting tapes in which they say things that i guess they're supposed to suggest we picked right um here's the thing let's talk about let's diagnose before we dive into like what happened in this first episode which by the way i don't think we're gonna watch episode two
Starting point is 00:03:21 yeah i'm not planning on it um let's talk about, like, the weird sort of, like, casting decisions that were made here. First of all, the premise of the show, it's kind of gross, but it's also not kind of gross, because I think a lot of people who are on reality shows are, like, they say some dumb shit from time to time. And that's certainly true here. But it's weird that that is, like, the characterization of the, like, all of the women on the show. Like, that's the whole thing. It's like, these smart, these women are very pretty. And you know what that means?
Starting point is 00:03:53 They're also idiots. And it's like, that's actually, like, they do say some dumb shit because they're on a reality show. But, like, that's a, that's very gross. I mean, that's a good point because a lot of the professions you see listed below the names are not all that different than you would see on The Bachelor or Bachelorette. Yes. You know, I don't think they're necessarily
Starting point is 00:04:13 a totally different breed of people that they brought on the show. They're just really highlighting stereotypes. Right, and don't get it twisted. Like, the challenges and situations that both squads are put in in this show are designed to embarrass them. And that, I mean, for the geeks, it's like, I don't know, I feel like that's such a, maybe I'm betraying my people right now. But like, that's like, that kind of just like water off a duck's back just rolls right off my shoulders but like seeing it like hey attractive women what's the what's what is the you know capital of what does dc stand for in washington dc let's see if you know this one and to be fair the woman did know that yeah so there's like a lot of situations
Starting point is 00:04:57 the woman was like are you what state is ia like fucking iowa yeah like i'm yeah there's that it Like, fucking Iowa. Duh. Like, I'm... It depends. This is kind of the classic debate, is whether or not you think skills like dancing and socializing have the same value as knowing state capitals and geography. I did love... I think her name is Kristen? kristin or there's a crystal crystal uh got a question wrong about states and we're already jumping like way way into the episode but she got a question wrong about states she was like i don't give a shit like why why do i need to know where states are that's not valuable to me in my life i'm like yeah crystal you do you
Starting point is 00:05:40 that's awesome um so anyway that is that's like the that's the part of the show that is like kind of gross it's like it's meant to embarrass them and considering one of the team is all attractive women and the way that they embarrass them is like these women don't know anything like it is built on a foundation that is like fundamentally pretty gross um but the other thing is a lot of these geeks are handsome boys. Yeah, I don't know if that decision was made because it's a WB show and they didn't want, like, nobody is, like, uncomfortable to look at, you know? Well, okay, here's the thing. I mean, there's a lot of webbed belts.
Starting point is 00:06:21 That's how I put it. Braided belts uh they went to they went to a fucking marshalls and just like bought a a in surplus a bunch of web belts and then distributed them are you trash talking marshalls right now to me to me of all people i know uh i'm trash talking web belts and i'm saying you take the webbed belts off well hey it was 2005 they weren't too far off trend i guess that's true um but if you take the web belts off these boys they're just like their pants fall down and everybody laughs um one of these guys is like kind of a handsome dude and also like a neurosurgeon med student and it's like look at this fucking nerd like he's an attractive soon-to-be neurosurgeon med student and it's like look at this fucking nerd like he's an attractive
Starting point is 00:07:07 soon-to-be neurosurgeon well i think for this show the metric that makes you a geek is a lack of social ability but that even also not doesn't do it that's not it's not not doesn't do it it doesn't like because like there's like a hot tub party night two it's not. Not doesn't do it? It doesn't, like, because, like, there's, like, a hot tub party. Night two. It's like, these guys, this. Now, there is one, there is, of course, Richard, who is, I'm pretty sure, a character actor. Yeah. I want to go through some of the occupations.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Let's go through. For these people. Let's meet these geeks and these beauties. Okay. Let's meet these geeks and these beauties. Okay. So we meet the geeks first, and we find out, here's a variety of the descriptors we get. So there's the med student, as you mentioned.
Starting point is 00:07:56 There's an assistant Boy Scout master. There is a computer programmer. Computer programmer who says, you can't program a woman. I know this from all the artificial intelligence studies I've done. And it's it's like oh boy if you just waited and done this show in 2016 you oh if only you knew the possibilities there's a mensa member he's the one that looks kind of dreamy to the women yeah he's like a handsome man brad is a mensa member which from what i can tell you just take an online test and then then you're in mensa i've never understood mensa it just seems like a kind of a club for people who like want to prove yeah that they're smarter than everybody uh-huh so it's exactly it's like a dick society then exactly uh and then our favorite
Starting point is 00:08:36 the vp of the dukes and hazards fan club um did you say the dukes and hazard dukes of hazards it's just the dukes of hazard it's hazard county they don't they're not the dukes of the mult there's they don't live in a county where there are many hazards like oh we got i mean they do jump the general lee over like a creek but it's not like a it's not like they're on a fucking golf course like oh no here come the caltrops we gotta drift around those and then here comes the lava flow we got to dodge those and oh my god a minefield oh piranhas we got to run away from that and oh boy there's two tornadoes i did just come up with an idea for a new hit weather channel sitcom though which is dukes of hazards okay and it's just very now what is a weather channel sitcom look like is ashton Kutcher in charge of that as well?
Starting point is 00:09:26 Hazardous weather conditions. This was an A plus K production, right? The Beauty and the Geek. Isn't he involved? Ashton Kutcher, yes. Yeah, A Kutch. Weirdly enough, I think he's also in the Dukes of Hazzard's movie. You're right.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He is. I wonder if this dude came to A K came to a he studied him came to a coach when he sat in the director's chair he's like a coach you got those connections i gotta tell you what's gonna be a great duke brother sir i don't actually think he was in that no i think it was johnny knoxville and sean william scott sean william scott is kind of like the ashton kutcher of that time period they were, they existed in the same time window. I feel like Ashton Kutcher was a little bit later. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Maybe you're right. I don't know. I was never a big fan of his work, to be honest. Yeah, A. Kutcher's not in Dukes of Hazzard. Okay. My apologies. Seems like he should have been. Maybe they should reboot that one again.
Starting point is 00:10:19 This sweet Dukes of Hazzard boy is, well, first of all, he's not 51 years old. So, like, what the fuck is your obsession where did that come from and it's not even like sci-fi you know where like there's a timelessness to it that like nerds really get into it's like a very specific type of show i mean i get it it's just like they're having fun out in the country and then there's an attractive woman and she's wearing these shorts are very short the shorts were very very short and there were car stunts like i get it it's not my thing but like i get it i wish there were more hazards though um this dude is like so there's prize money for beauty and the geek um 250 000 and it's like what would you spend what would you spend the generally
Starting point is 00:11:02 what would you spend your 200 generally i would buy the generally um yeah griffin mentioned there is prize money the winning team gets 250 000 but we haven't even talked about the teams yet let me just really quickly get through the women did we talk about richard richard i don't know what richard's thing was his thing was like i'm a virgin or i've never kissed a girl i don't remember it wasn't thing was. His thing was like, I'm a virgin or I've never kissed a girl. I don't remember. It wasn't like an occupation. It would show a thing, like it would show a woman eating a slice of pizza. And it'd be like, Richard, never eaten pizza. Never been invited to a pizza party.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Like, oh man, Richard. Richard's just like, I felt like Richard's just like playing that shit up to the maximum. Yeah, it's like he, in order to study up on his best chance of success for the show, he watched a bunch of Woody Allen movies and thought, like, I can do this. And that's what he's bringing to the table. One of the women on Richard, I think, captured it pretty well. And she called him a white Urkel. Like, over the top.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I mean, he's on some fucking Jerry Lewis, like, Nutty Professor shit. Like, nonstop. And it's like, that's not how humans are. Yeah. Also, you're wearing a web belt that's holding up some crazy parachute pants. I did not know you had such a campaign against web belts. It's just like, what a look. Everyone go through, this is a Griffin McElroy fashion tip.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Go through your stuff. You don't remember that look, though, in 2005? Of course I remember that look. I had a fucking web belt. You know why? Because it was handy. It was like no matter what, Thanksgiving dinner, I gain a pant size. I just move it one weave down, and I'm good to go.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Let me talk about the women. And I'm going to read these descriptors and please know these are not necessarily words that i would use but how they were described we don't own any of this shit so there is a quote sorority girl there is a beer spokesmodel an nba dancer a quote aspiring fashion expert that one was great because she and her introduction actually said like i aspire to be a fashion expert which i guess makes sense chase your dreams you can't like nobody's you can't flip a switch like i'm a fashion expert now i mean i clearly yeah it doesn't happen overnight you just got to make the decision of just fuck web belts and you're so far ahead of the pack uh there's a lingerie model and then somebody who's described as a life-size barbie
Starting point is 00:13:26 model which i didn't know that was a thing or yeah what the fuck's that mean yeah i don't know i mean needless to say she was a very attractive tall blonde woman with a lot of makeup so and a lot of accessories yeah and you know her feet were trapped in that high heel position and no genitalia and her fingers wouldn't separate yeah so it seems about right crazy yeah uh so those are the people we're talking about so if the very first thing that happens is they get led to separate rooms by a host by the host did we get his name uh bright that's brian faden he was a mtv vj on trl total request live for three years um and boy he was he was just kind of phoning it in he was not doing a great uh a great job with the hosting duties because it was like he walked both groups of of contestants
Starting point is 00:14:22 into the house and separated them into these like separate rooms divided by these big red velvet curtains and he would literally be like geeks welcome to the house i know you guys don't know what you're here for but uh follow me uh into the house and we'll figure it out and he walks them into the room he's like all right sit right here and walks out and leaves it's like that's it that's it that's how you intro that's like your intro to women ladies welcome to the show. I'm going to walk you into your room and everything will be revealed in just a second. Stay right here. Like, that's the level.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's it was very, very charismatic. No charisma at all. And I want to talk about the room that the men were led to because it looked a lot like a Spencer's Gifts. It did, didn't it a lot of puzzles and lots of plasma balls of various shapes sizes and colors it was a chess board i was afraid of plasma ball anytime i go into spencer's gifts i would always like i would touch the plasma ball because like how can you not but i'd be afraid that it was gonna like make me sterile or something because like what is even what the fuck's even going on in there nobody knows nobody knows i wonder if spencer's gift has to get like a special permit to sell
Starting point is 00:15:30 them if you work at a spencer's gifts just forget about it like it's going to fry your seed 100 guaranteed um and so the men sit there the women sit in another room that isn't specially decorated from them for what i can tell no and they are told to take turns one by one going into the other room alternating and then they introduce themselves they leave and then the man or woman that wants to select them will come out and meet them in the foyer kind of a weird draft process but okay uh the first guy that goes is like a med student right so they tell the they tell the the women like hey okay uh so we got some nerdos and you're gonna help them become sociable and then the host goes to the to the men and it's like all right you're gonna teach them how to spell or something uh just like
Starting point is 00:16:21 as as insulting as they could possibly be and then the first guy walks over and it's the handsome med student and the women are like oh all right well i guess this isn't gonna be that bad you know the way they say it they're like women you know you don't have any experience getting a 1600 on your sat none of you have ever been a valedictorian but there are men in the other room that have had these experiences and then they go to the men and he's like uh you know none of you have ever gotten anything because of your looks none of you has ever gotten a free meal because your looks it's like oh and that's the only value that the women in the other room is their ability to get some free nachos.
Starting point is 00:17:06 I... Whenever I talk about shows like this, it's like I don't even know where to start. I feel like as a feminist woman, I should be saying something to just kind of protest this whole conceit, but I don't even... I mean, where do you start? It's a fucking garbage show
Starting point is 00:17:25 right it's we know that it's a garbage show compared to a lot of the shows we've watched it's a garbage show and it came out right in that perfect sort of window of just like let's make these fucking people let's just tear these people to the ground and let's embarrass them but then like let's make it seem like they grow a little bit during the thing. And that's sort of the little spoonful of sugar helps that medicine go down. And we saw that. There was a trailer before this first episode that shows, like, one of the women crying. Like, these are the types of men that we just ignore, but they're some of the best men we've ever met. And the guys don't say anything like, these women were so smart all along.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Of course not. They don't say that. These women were so smart all along. Of course not. They don't say that. But you get that, like, this social experiment is, like, bringing out some really important... Yeah. That was the formula for shows from this era. So, like, it's trash.
Starting point is 00:18:14 It's trash. And, like, I don't think this kind of shit could swing now. I don't think a show of 2016 could come out and be like, look at these dumb women talking to these men who are geeks. I hope not. I mean, there's still some gnarly, nasty shit going on. The point I'm trying to make is 2005 was just like, television execs were just like, go for a while. That was Blind Date, Elimidate. That was that time period, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:46 blind date eliminate like that was that time period i think but it was more like the uh the fucking swan which was like a reality show where you had competitions and whoever won each of the challenges got plastic surgery and like it was it it we were on some idiocracy shit yeah in a major way and it was stuff like this that was kind of just part of it um so it's trash like i think we just gotta lean into the fact that it's garbage and is not are you the one and it's not the bachelor no no there is very little strategy involved in this show none at all um but uh but yeah, so the med student decides to go first. Chuck introduces himself. He says, as a med student, I'm used to explaining complicated things to people that aren't familiar with the terminology.
Starting point is 00:19:36 And the women are all excited about him because he seems so nice and sincere. And I'm going to try and say her name. Okay, yeah, this one's a real mouthful i think it was kaitlyn it's spelled like caitlyn it's spelled c-a-i-t-i-l-i-n okay so not so then it's not spelled fucking at all like caitlyn no women that spell caitlyn that way no there are women who spell no you're right there's women who spell their name c-i-a-t-l-i-n that extra i that pops in they're just like hey guys what's going on in this name oops oh no i ended up on the birth certificate here i am introduces herself she decides i'm gonna go through the curtain meet that med student in the foyer hi my name is kydalyn i love it it's like
Starting point is 00:20:19 that's what scorpions have on them to protect protect them from birds. That's a good pickup, right? Like, you're on a show called Beauty and the Geek, and let's just, like, roleplay it, because obviously I think we both fill those roles pretty easily. Griffin. No, I'm the beauty. You've made this joke before, I feel like. Okay, so you're the beauty, and you're sitting in the room, and it's like, there's a bunch of fucking huge nerdos sitting in there.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I'm talking about a bunch of Urkels, not Stefan Urkels. I'm talking about the unsexy supplicant Urkel. Just a bunch of Urkels. Anyway, you got to jump fast when you see one you like. Anyway, here's a handsome med student.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Like I, if I was any one of those seven women, I'd be like, Oh me, me, me. I'll just take that. It's like the,
Starting point is 00:21:03 it's like the, what is it? The let's make a deal problem of you have three doors and I'd be like, oh, me, me, me. I'll just take that. Yeah. It's like the, what is it? The let's make a deal problem of you have three doors. If they open one, then you should switch. It's like, definitely go with that. If there's a handsome man in this show about dating a bunch of Urkels, like, yeah, I'll take him. Yeah, the Mets doing him.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, yeah. What was surprising, actually, was that it was like a civil organized process. Women would volunteer and there was never any argument. Like, no, no, no, I want to be his partner. It was just like somebody would jump up. See, those other six women were probably greedy. They probably saw that guy and just like, his hair isn't very attractive.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm going to wait and see if there's one that comes out with more attractive hair. And then Richard wearing three web belts at once, including one across his chest like a bandolier, is like, what's up? You fucked up. Should've taken door number one, homie. Oh. Yeah, his entrance is almost unwatchable. It's literally, it's, guys, it's fucking,'s guys it's fucking like he does a lot of arm gestures and hand gestures and he's like he's doing that thing that caricatures on television shows do
Starting point is 00:22:18 where they try to be suave but end up accentuating how not suave they are professor frank professor frank i'll make you laugh i'll make you think like it was it was but it's like that was it was like acting right but like maybe that is how that dude just kind of gets through the day-to-day which is like yeah i mean somebody at some point told him his best quality was that he was funny. And so he just thinks, like, I'm going to lean into that. Yeah, it's a very big humor. Yeah, that's a good way to describe it. You remember that episode of the OC where Seth meets, like, his evil counterpart? And it's, like, a guy that everybody thinks is funny, and they stop thinking Seth is funny, but his humor is so big.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And him and Sandy talk about how Gentiles just like can't can't hang that's what it's like just I don't remember that oh man it's such a good episode um one of the women the next woman to go in is Crystal the NBA dancer and she makes the smart point of like I'm gonna volunteer to go in that room because then I get to see all the men at once and get to know what we're working with. But she has no agency over who picks her. So she could go in and be like, well, there's five handsome dudes left and one total swamp monster. And then that swamp monster walks through the curtain.
Starting point is 00:23:36 No, she actually gets picked by Brad. She's picked by Brad, the fucking handsome, handsome man. Yes. Which, like, it doesn't matter how they look, right? Like, it doesn't matter how any of them, it doesn't matter how the beauties look or how the geeks look. Like, this is not a, they're not going to hook up. This isn't, are you the one that they're picking to match? Well, but here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:23:52 They have to share rooms. And some of them quite literally have to share beds. Yeah, that's rough stuff. Which seems unreasonable. The first couple that matches up, like, the woman literally sprints up the stairs looking for the room with two beds in it and it's like this this is it oh this one just feels right doesn't it this one has a great energy to it don't you think what kind of stuff do you think that they sign when they agree to be on this show because it seems like a lot to ask a contestant hey we're gonna make you share a room and share a bed with somebody you just met today
Starting point is 00:24:22 yeah i don't probably the same shit that they make them sign on any show so mindy is the one that calls richard the white urkel and she picks him shit man uh scarlet is a salsa dancer which by the hold on wait let's just get into the like if we're going to define this thing a white urkel is a Minkus. This is known. We know this. Minkus didn't have as many fun sort of inventions that he did, although I thought that was sci-fi bullshit. You know what I mean? Was Minkus on the college years?
Starting point is 00:24:55 He comes back for, like, one episode for, like, just a sight gag. Does he age into? First of all, Minkus wouldn't go to this fucking public college that they all went into. He's definitely Ivy League. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. But he comes back for, like, a single, like, gag.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I think it's the finale. Okay. He's like, hey, I miss you guys. Is he like Richard when he ages? No, he's actually... He gets, like, really handsome and buff. Like, he's, like, you know how Jonathan Lipnicki is, like, torn up and his body's, like, insane right now? Have you seen that fool?
Starting point is 00:25:29 The little kid from Jerry Maguire? Oh, no, I haven't. Oh, my God. Um, I think a white Urkel is a pretty apt comparison. Because I don't remember Minkus being especially over the top. Um, no. I guess that's true. Here's Jonathan Lipnicki. Ohnicki oh my god i know right break me off a piece of that lipnicki bar no now you're just staring at it longing he
Starting point is 00:25:55 was the little boy in jerry mcguire you can't want that okay i'm now clicking between a picture of handsome jacked abercrombie and fitch model Lipnicki and little boy Lipnicki. In like a... He's dressed up like Sisko or something. In a gold chain with like bleach hair back when NSYNC was really cultivating that look. Okay, anyway, back to the show. Okay, so I'm just going to go through these quick lists. I'm going to enjoy these Lipnicki picks while you talk about the rest of the teams.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Since we're not going to really watch the show again, I'll just go through quickly. Scarlett is a salsa dancer. She ends up with Sean, who I don't know anything about. Joe, who is a very small, fair man. I say fair in that he is fair-complected. I would say he's also fair from an ethical standpoint i also said uh when we were introduced to joe that he looks like a maybe a 10 year old that a genie uh fortune teller machine turned into a doll overnight yeah yeah he a sweet lad sweet lad he has a very boyish face he introduced himself since he's from
Starting point is 00:26:57 minnesota that he has studied in london that he likes to make films and tutor kids at the elementary school erica chooses him and I think just finds him adorable. He is adorable. He's a little bundle of fun. Lauren comes in and introduces herself. And you can tell that she is aware that she is on a reality television show for a very specific role. Because she says, I love to party, love shopping, I don't like to read. Reading, not so much.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I love to dance and I love to have a good time. I love to meet men. But my SATs, guys, they're so bad. And I would love one of you nerds to come and teach me and make me better. She must be an aspiring actress, because it's like they sat her down, and they were like, you're here because you're beautiful. And you are going to be on a show with all these very smart men. And she thought, OK, all right. So my role is to be, okay, what's my motivation? Yeah. Okay. So I'm pretty, but I'm not very smart. Okay. So I'll introduce myself and I'll say that I,
Starting point is 00:27:55 um, I don't know that I don't like to read. There were so many seasons of this show. There was an Australian version of this show. Like I saw that when I was looking for it, there's like a bunch of different. It's an international fucking sensation. And it's like insane to me. Because like how easy were we bamboozled 11 years ago? God, I can't believe 2005 was 11 years ago. How easily bamboozled were we 11 years ago that we watched that shit and weren't like,
Starting point is 00:28:20 well, this is all funsy, fun, fun play acting. And obviously there's some of that in like every show we've watched ever on reality TV. But this one, man, it's just like between Richard's just constant sight gags and the multiple women who are just like, I don't know how to read. I mean, if you think about it, okay, so let's say I'm an executive. And I am noticing there's all these reality dating shows. And it's always very attractive people who don't have careers, let's say, in the sciences. And I'm thinking, how do I do something new?
Starting point is 00:29:03 How do I bring like a new twist to this format? And I've often thought it would be interesting to watch a reality dating show where people seem more like people I see every day. Like disparate backgrounds and not just like, 20 handsome people. And because it was 2005, maybe they were a little crass in their casting. Still extremely crass all right we're at a half hour we need to okay all right all right sorry we need to get busy um so dukes of hazard uh enthusiast picks lauren um and cheryl and eric end up together by default so the last ones left so the challenge is uh they're going to go to an elementary school and they're
Starting point is 00:29:45 going to go to back to fifth grade uh the women are going to have to compete in a challenge where they'll be asked questions about history and geography and spelling uh the men will have to compete in a dance competition all right okay here's some shit like some of that shit that they asked again obviously designed to embarrass and humiliate both of them um some of the shit they asked fifth graders the fifth grade questions was like i'm actually having a tough time with a couple of these that shit drives me crazy like that whole like are you smarter than a fifth grader and it's like a lot of these. That shit drives me crazy. Like, that whole, like, are you smarter than a fifth grader? And it's like, a lot of that stuff is like, yes, it's stuff you learn and then you remember it forever. I was in fifth grade 19 years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So, yeah, there's going to be some of that stuff that just, like, didn't stick around in the old memory banks. I don't know that it has anything to do with intelligence as much as it is, like, I was real deep into Pokemon back then. And so the parts of my brain that was like a rasputin i should remember everything about this fool uh i was like no actually i should probably remember that at level 36 charmelian turns into charizard like well to be fair for example one of the questions was what state is east of west virginia yeah that was rough but one of the questions was like well no that one was pretty bad too what's what state is more southern, North Carolina or South Dakota? That was the one that made Crystal, the NBA dancer, say, like, I don't give a fuck where states are. She's like, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Like, that's a good point, though, if you think about it. Like, if you get on a plane to North Carolina, you don't need to know where it is. The plane's going to get you there. The plane's going to get you there, all right? We're not old-timey pioneers. We don't need a fucking sextant and an astrolabe to get from place to place. There are people who do that for us now. Yeah, but if you're in a bar and you meet somebody and...
Starting point is 00:31:35 And you're from, like, I'm from North Carolina, and they're like, where's that? That would actually be kind of strange. Yeah. The art of conversation, Griffin. It's important. I will say, one of these fucking questions was it garbage and it made me angrier at the host which i didn't know was possible he asked one of the women what is the what city is the state capital of new england and i heard
Starting point is 00:31:55 that and i was confused griffin and i both looked at each other like what is this question asking well it was a trick question designed specifically to trap the woman garbage garbage they're like new england is not a state should we talk about the word calendar oh yeah it was a spelling word calendar yeah the women were asked to spell various words one of them was tattoo uh one of them was what she did she did t-aT-U. Because that band was really hot back then. No, she didn't. All the things she said. All the things she said. Running through my head.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Running through my head. Running through my head. Whoa. Yeah, I couldn't really get up there. I was in chamber choir. One of the words was calendar, though. And she got it wrong. She did D-E-R there at the end.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I don't think. Rachel was like, well, that's a toughie. I don't think that's unforgivable. No, I don't think it's unforgivable, but like, it's Calendar. All right. Well. Maybe she's spelling it. How does Marie Calendar spell the last name?
Starting point is 00:32:55 That I don't actually know. Okay. So the women go through the flashcard challenge. So the women go through the flashcard challenge, and there's questions about name three states that have new, the word new in them. It's a tricky one. I actually had to think about that. Yeah. I don't think I would have gotten New Mexico, despite the fact that that's probably the closest state to us. And then what state's abbreviation is IA?
Starting point is 00:33:26 That one's tricky, though, because there's a lot of I states in there. Idaho. Illinois. Illinois. Iowa. Indiana. Oh, Indiana. Indiana could be I-A.
Starting point is 00:33:37 The M states are tricky, too, right? Because you've got Maine, Michigan, Massachusetts. Missouri. Missouri. Like M-O-M-E-M-I-M-A. It's like you got almost all the vowels covered there. Montana. Montana, shit.
Starting point is 00:33:49 What even is... See, now I don't even know. No, let's... No, we're doing this shit now, because now we need to know if we're smarter than a fifth grader. Maine is M-E. Massachusetts is M-A. Is it?
Starting point is 00:34:04 Oh my God, no. No, it is. Because Mississippi is M-A. Is it? Oh my god, no. No, it is. Because Mississippi is M-S. Mississippi is M-S. Missouri is M-O. Yeah. Michigan's M-I. Montana. I don't know what Montana is.
Starting point is 00:34:18 M-N? M-T, maybe? M-T? That would make sense. See, that's what I'm saying. Okay, do you see what I'm saying? Some of this is bullshit because it's's tricky and they were on a timer and i know we're gonna get like a billion comments on this on facebook saying like i'm from montana you fucking idiots but um it's tricky it's hard like some of these questions are like genuinely tricky
Starting point is 00:34:38 i find i i mean i find anybody who like does this shit to embarrass people to establish their own intellectual superiority which is should be the fucking subtitle of this show, I find that really exasperating. But the whole, like, are you smarter than a fifth grader is, it's, like, not a good metric for. It's like not a good metric for... Well, it's the sweet spot, right? Because a lot of people watch reality television because they like to sit at home and feel smarter than the contestants. And so watching people fail on television is kind of a hobby for a lot of viewers.
Starting point is 00:35:17 In fact, I would go so far as to call it the great American pastime. So Mindy wins that challenge on Iowa. And then it's the men's turn to the dance competition. Now, maybe they were clearer with the contestants than they were with us as the viewer. But I didn't realize each team was going to be choreographing a dance number. And so the men came out with partners on the auditorium stage and did a dance number. And so the men came out with partners on the auditorium stage and did a dance number. And I wrote down a little bit. I mean, it's kind of hard to talk about dance numbers. The med student gets his second nosebleed of the first episode while he's dancing. And his partner, who's very sweet, keeps trying to wipe the blood off of
Starting point is 00:36:08 his face and this was just savage this was just some like he like says to her he's like oh i'm starting to get a nosebleed while they're dancing and they're doing a pretty complicated number uh and and she's like do you want to do anything he's like no just let it drip down and she literally reaches up and then like wipes his face but then, do you want me to do anything? He's like, no, just let it drip down. And she literally reaches up and then, like, wipes his face. Yeah. But then she doesn't know what to do with her bloody hands, so she just kind of holds it upright on his shoulder. Like, not trying, just trying not to touch anything or anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:34 That's a rough dance, man. Yeah. I don't know. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know that I would do that for you, my husband. White blood off my face? Yeah. I don't, I don't think I'd, like, the dude's...
Starting point is 00:36:43 Not nose blood. Maybe, like, if you cut yourself shaving you would touch my blood yeah but nose blood it's all the same blood you understand this right it's like a special kind of gross to me um this dude also didn't want it because he said like i'm not crazy about anybody coming in contact with my blood um but he's backstage holding up a towel to his face and he's like that was a lot of fun though was it because you were on stage in front of a huge crowd of people doing a dance that you didn't know how to do and then your nose started bleeding and a woman touched it fun it was a fun night for me because for me that doesn't sound like fun night as much as it sounds like the thing i'll be having nightmares about for the next like two years have you ever gotten a public nosebleed
Starting point is 00:37:20 i get them on airplanes like almost every time i get on an airplane yeah uh the macaroys get a lot of nosebleeds i've noticed uh i feel like justin does a lot yeah uh travis does too travis does mostly when he flies i think for me yeah it's that barotrauma son i get it up there and they shut the cabin doors and it's like goosh spaloosh oh. Both nostrils at once. Okay. So Richard is Mindy's partner, and she is already safe. And he gets up, and Mindy tells him, just be really funny while you dance. up and Mindy tells him, just be really funny while you dance. Which again, Richard is just getting that feedback of like, just play up how ridiculous you are. So he does a kind of a goofy
Starting point is 00:38:14 dance that you would expect. And he gets 35% of the vote and wins. So because both him and mindy won they get to choose both teams that will go into the elimination room which seems like a bad prize well this is maybe the place where you could make the one argument that there is strategy in this game because they were talking about like who's our biggest threat how do we take out how do you establish what a fucking threat is that you know i'm saying like in this show this first challenge was spelling history and geography and then dance well and the next challenge based on the trailer that we watched it was uh auto auto repair and uh what are the guys even doing we don't know what the guys are uh to do. Oh, the guys are massaging the women or something?
Starting point is 00:39:05 The guys are massaging the women. So, like, how do you establish who... Oh, we got to get rid of them because they're going to be good at changing tires and rubbing women. Like, what? No. Well, if the woman seems particularly smart and the man seems particularly savvy, I could see them being a threat. This is when they have the hot tub party. And the fun thing I thought i think it was joe
Starting point is 00:39:27 that noticed this so they're all in the hot tub and the men are all excited because they're in the hot tub and the women are feeling like aren't we doing these men a great service by being in the hot tub with them and they go around talking about what they look for in a partner and i think it's joe that notices that nearly every woman highlights trustworthy and spontaneous and just like I guess I need to become more trustworthy and spontaneous hey how the fuck do you be both trustworthy and spontaneous doesn't seem like those two are at ends with each other no no no no no I think trustworthy is you're not going to cheat on me. And spontaneous is you do nice things or plan nice things for me that I'm not expecting. Okay. Am I that? Do you think? Do I fit that bill? You're very trustworthy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 But not being spontaneous, that just means that I'm consistent. And a lot of women like that, too. Yeah. A lot of women like consistency. So in the hot tub, Erica and Brad spark a little romance. This is, okay. Specifically in that Erica is attracted to Brad. And so she, meanwhile, you know that they're sharing rooms with their partners, but she goes into the room where Brad is sharing it with his partner and gets in bed with Brad and they stay up all night. Just smooching. Just smooching, apparently. This is what I'm like.
Starting point is 00:41:04 It's nice to watch that love can bloom in the battlefield. I love it, right? Yeah. But it's like, he's a handsome Mensa member. And she's like, he's, like, hot. Like, not the guy I typically go for, but he's hot. Yeah, like, if I saw him in a bar, I would think he was hot. Yeah, so we're gonna make out all night.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Beauty and the geek. Like, the whole, like, the whole, like, premise of the show kind of comes tumbling down a little bit,'t it like how would you cast this show i would get on like reddit and then just fucking just randomly pick seven users off reddit and be like go nuts and whatever they look like like whatever their shit is like go for it maybe not go for it because like i don't know but like this it's no okay so so most like the whole thing is like this team's really attractive and this team's really smart and then there's some smart people on the attractive team and some attractive people on the smart team do you know what i mean i guess like well that's to teach you as a viewer no no it's hey this is a bad show um so then the next morning erica decides she should tell her partner joe
Starting point is 00:42:12 that she kissed brad sweet sweet and we see this awkward exchange where joe knows what's going on but erica's trying to dance around it and joe's like joe was not being very sweet actually in this moment joe was actually being kind of a prick. Because he was like, he said in the behind the scenes, he's like, I know that her and... What was the guy's name? Brad? I know that Michael... But she wanted to make...
Starting point is 00:42:33 I mean, he wanted to make her say it. She was like, be like, Doe, did you hear anything? Maybe about me and somebody else? And then he was like, No, what are you talking about? And he's like, just say it. Just...
Starting point is 00:42:42 Between you and who? Between you and who and what did you do? did you between what did you like i i get it but it was also him like fucking psychologically torturing his partner because she hooked up with another guy in the house like joe joe may be somebody that kind of plays up um his lack of good fortune. Because he does say, you know, if I got upset every time a woman I liked liked somebody else, I would just be upset all the time. Sounds like that might actually be... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:14 What is happening? Yeah. Let's get to the challenge. Well, so... Richard and Mindy decide to send Cheryl and Eric and Erica and Joe to the elimination room. And the way the elimination room works is the women and men each get questioned separately. The women go in and they're going to get questions similar to the ones they got at the elementary school about history. And the guys are going to get questions about popular music and so then the teams go back to their rooms they get a chance to study
Starting point is 00:43:52 and then there's going to be six questions and the women and men are going to take turns picking questions and answering them this is a weird thing for me um because it seems like the geeks are going to be first of all like quizzing the geeks on shit like i feel like a geek somebody who like does well in school and like their whole thing is they've tested well on the sats like that's all studying so like it seems like there's an imbalance there of just like that's a good point and also they were asking them essentially pop culture questions yeah hey guess what like yeah like if you turn on a television geeks nowadays like the term geek nowadays is no longer reserved for like people who do well in school it's for people who like can tell you
Starting point is 00:44:35 every piece of lore from world of warcraft yeah because they like have studied that shit or or to be like there's they make a sports joke at some point she's like they're the dancer for the who does she dance for though she's not a laker girl is she 76ers oh that's right she dances for the 76ers she's like you know the 76ers and none of the guys are like i don't know guess what like sports geeks are some of the biggest fucking geeks in the whole world yeah people who go to baseball games they don't watch the shit happening on the field they just trace the numbers yeah like fantasy baseball yeah that's like that's like pretty hardcore fucking everybody plays fantasy football and people get really into it like big ass geeks about it but not only that there's like people who are geeks about movies and people who are geeks i think that is a new concept though right like it's not entirely a
Starting point is 00:45:16 new concept but it's like it is definitely like the idea that it's acceptable to be geeky about a particular thing i think it's just it's just the word the definition of the word has changed right because you watch freaks and geeks and back then like they're all obsessed with star wars they can tell you everything there is to know about star wars but also they did well in school i'm saying there's a whole genre of people now who like i would classify myself in this like i did pretty well in school but i'm i was far down the valedictorian list like i was not a what i would say traditional geek but i can name basically every species from the star wars universe you know i mean like that that idea
Starting point is 00:45:50 like a pop culture geek is like that's now what the shit is primarily it is you're right i think it's a skill that you hone as a geek where you're able to catalog and classify information because that is something i always noticed for me is that i would be really really excited about a show let's say like quantum leap for example um not for example that's like but i wasn't ever very good at like naming all the actors that have been in the show or all the episodes in order or you, the kind of stuff that real geeks, I feel like, specialize in. Of like, I have very specific information. The point is, like, they would ask the women in their challenge, like, who is the current prime minister?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Yeah. Who's the current prime minister? And they would say, you know, I don't actually know that. The woman said Robinson, which I thought was a pretty fair guess. Yeah, just throw it out there, whatever. That's a name. But then they'd ask, like, one of the guys, like uh what movie did john travolta star in the 1976 that started a dance craze he's like fucking tally i fever like i'm a geek like i've seen movies
Starting point is 00:46:52 1976 is like i don't know the year the first star wars came out i can tell you every movie that was the box office hit in 1976 like i can tell you every movie that john travolta's been on like do you know what i mean like that's the that's it's a weird, it's not exactly an even playing field. No, it's not. Do you want me to go through some of the answers, or do you just want me to skip ahead? Was there a particularly funny question? Well, I was going to do the... The Robinson one was very good.
Starting point is 00:47:17 The Madonna song. Holy shit. This is going to undo, actually, my whole, like, pop culture geek thing, because this was a, this was a crime. This was a felony. So the guys, I think it was Joe actually gets asked, name the Madonna song that was also a dance move and the title of a popular magazine. This fucking fool. And he pauses for a second and he does recall a madonna song but he recalls like
Starting point is 00:47:49 a virgin first of all hysterical that that is the only madonna song that he could think of uh second of all oh baby don't forget to remind me when we're done recording we have to re-up our subscription to like a virgin magazine And then we have our dance class so that we could learn the Like A Virgin dance. Maybe I am a little filthy at my core, but I would not be surprised if there weren't a Like A Virgin magazine, specifically in the adult area of the convenience store. That's all I'm saying. It's possible. Don't Google it.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Griffin, don't Google it. Please don't Google it. Oh, my. Oh, no. It's just risque pics of Madonna that have popped up. Okay. Who loses? Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:39 So the points are combined, which I didn't realize at first. So the women go, they answer questions about history. The men go, they answer questions about history. The men go, they answer questions about music. They add the scores together and, um, Erica and Joe easily win and Cheryl and Eric lose and get sent home. Uh, rip. I had,
Starting point is 00:48:57 uh, actually said earlier on, I like, I think I like Cheryl. And of course she's the first one gone. We didn't break up the love quadrangle of Brad and what's her name? Brad and? The other woman in this challenge.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Erica. Brad and Erica still stay together. Brerica, as I call them. Yeah. Interesting. Cheryl and Eric, the couple that went went home were also the couple that didn't actually actively choose each other yeah see that's they just got paired by default so next week we get a commercial for a show we're not going to watch which was the men are going to
Starting point is 00:49:35 massage the women gross and the women are going to change tires and do some basic auto repair shit you know real geek shit yeah that's how i knew tire Yeah, that's how I knew. Like changing a tire and like. That's how I knew Griffin for sure was a real geek because he changed my tires for me. How do you not fucking get, that's the opposite of the thing. Yeah. You never go to a mechanic.
Starting point is 00:49:57 You're like, look at these fucking nerds. What would be a better challenge for the women to like really get them in touch with geek traits? for the women to like really get them in touch with geek traits um i mean i could do like a star wars species trivia challenge well they already did like a challenge well what was his species admiral akbar what's the name of the wookie home planet what was jabba's species see that would be like the difficulty i can't answer any jabba's java's species hut you got it really yeah he's java the hut that's like his whole thing it's his whole shtick i thought maybe that was like a derogatory thing because he was so big they just call like overweight people huts this they
Starting point is 00:50:39 probably do to like be mean but this creature is as big as a hut so you know this from star wars games um i don't know how i i think it's in my blood i think i got a lot of midichlorians in there the macaroys are just boring do you think travis and justin know this stuff as well as you do uh i don't know if they know like deep lore about the trandoshans but oh my god what's wrong can we tell the story yeah it's so key in our relationship quote This is a quote-unquote fun story. This is in the first year of our relationship. Maybe the first six months.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, we hadn't been dating very long. Maybe even first three months, because it was summertime. Yeah, it was early. We were watching Star Wars. We were watching Star Wars. I don't remember which one. Playing Scrabble. I think it was the first one.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I was just rattling off shit about the native flora and fauna to Kashyyyk. And Rachel was like, you can remember all this shit, but you can't remember my birthday. No, no, no. I didn't start you off at a disadvantage like that. You were speaking about Star Wars minutiae. And I said, what's my birthday? And I was like, please, March 30th. Yeah, it is not.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Close. I was so close. You were very, very close. As close as I could be. It was March 29th. Yeah. Which, by the way, listeners, you missed it by a few weeks now. Rachel was heartbroken.
Starting point is 00:52:01 You missed Griffin's birthday. Well, no, you didn't, actually. Some Rosebuddies fans mentioned it. Oh, yeah, that was sweet. That was because I really sounded the trumpet on your birthday. It's true. Beauty and the Geek, final thoughts. I'm glad that...
Starting point is 00:52:17 I mean, whatever. It's a free market. Shows like this don't exist anymore because they're fucking garbage and really low production quality and horrible ideas and people watched them for a minute and then fell off because they couldn't live with how gross they felt. I'm no fashion expert, but I aspire to be one.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I will say that there's something about watching a show like Are You The One, which is modern day, kind of reflects our modern sensibilities, our modern fashion interests, let's say. There's still some yucky stuff going on, but as a show structure, there's interesting stuff in the structure. Going back and watching any show from this time period,
Starting point is 00:52:53 like the Of Love franchise or Beauty and the Geek, 2005 doesn't jibe with the way that we approach reality television these days. Because there has to be it used to just be the webbed belt of fashion let's say back when this shit was just novel you could just like get a bunch of different people in a room and then make jokes about each other and be like mean right like there used to be reality shows the point of which were just let's fucking be mean to everybody and they were so cynical cynical and like so hostile yeah and people would like tune into them and uh it's i think it's
Starting point is 00:53:33 actually a better reflection on our society if you want to look at it this way the shows like this don't really get made as much anymore like now we're more like hypothesis on what changed that i mean the only thing i can hope is that we were on some ghost busters 2 shit like beating the mood slime of just like everybody like i don't watch that show anymore because it's gross or maybe it was obama that changed it yeah i think it's probably about america started to hope again there's definitely some gross shows being made i don't want the point of this to be like griffin thinks that all reality television is as good as it's going to be and it's making us all uneduc educated and better society.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Like, obviously, that's 100% not true. I'm just saying, this show is the, like, archetype of the dark ages, where it's just like, reality shows came out so fast and so furious, and they would make them on a shoestring budget over the course of like three weeks and the point of the reality show could just be look at these fucking nerds and look at these like dumb women and just let's just fucking harangue them and then at the end but then at the end last episode we're gonna be like i think we learned a lot from this you can't like did you learn a lot from this are you just trying to flip it because you basically made a show that was just like fuck all these people fuck all these people for real though a lot of people like
Starting point is 00:54:49 suggested shows and it's like fine like I don't think we've established we have a not great track record of the shows that we've watched between Bachelor Bachelorette seasons in terms of being like high quality non gross programming but like I don't want to watch a show where like they trick a bunch of women into thinking that a guy is a millionaire and then like pull the rug out from under him.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Ha ha. Got you. Got you. Look at all these shallow things. You know, it's not like shows are gross nowadays when they focus on gross subjects and they represent them in gross ways. But that's I think that's a little bit better than the shows that used to be just like, look at these fucking morons. Yeah. just like, look at these fucking morons.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, well, and maybe it's just a taste thing, you know, because I think there are a lot of people that still watch reality television to kind of laugh at, you know, people that are making poor choices. But I think Griffin and I like shows like The Bachelor and Bachelorette. I mean, obviously, there's that component of entertainment. But, you know, I want to see people like have hard decisions to make and to see what they do. The difference, I would say, is that Bachelor and Bachelorette don't actively invite you, as part of the show's core premise, to fucking, like, despise and pick apart people just based on who they are. Or not even who they are, but these, like, broad categories that they fall into. Yeah, the broad categories.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think that's true because there are villains every season there's villains every season that you're encouraged to dislike right but that's like just them playing a part it's so so so very very different from just like all these guys are fucking geeks well that guy's actually like really handsome and kind of smooth and he's like no they're fucking geeks fuck these guys right fuck these guys look at all these dumb women like actually like a lot of them actually know some stuff and like you're asking them trivia questions that a lot of people would have no no they're fucking dumb you gotta hate them hate them like that's that shit oh god yeah no that's a good point it's i i i feel like i didn't watch
Starting point is 00:56:39 any of those shows growing up i didn't watch like i watched like survivor i liked stuff that had a competitive element we've talked about this on the show like we like shows where people who are good at shit do shit they're good at and we like shows where there's like strategy and teamwork you did tell me you watch flavor of love though i didn't watch a lot of flavor of love um but there's something like even compared to this flavor of love it was super exploitative but there was something joyous about it like it was there was a lot of gross representation which i was talking about earlier like and that we still definitely definitely have that and i think maybe a lot of that is symptomatic of flavor of love um i wouldn't be surprised if they uh they
Starting point is 00:57:15 didn't invent the idea certainly but they definitely perfected it maybe uh but it they didn't go like to all of the women in the house, like, in flavor of love. Like, look at these fucking dummies. You know what I mean? Yeah. There were certainly, like, goofy situations that were meant to embarrass people who were making bad decisions. But it wasn't like, minute one, look at these fucking morons.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And that's what this show does. And it's like, it sucks, man. I don't want to give it another second of my day. Should we mention, we're not planning to discuss it on the show but we are watching season two of are you the one right now it's still very good um they're doing they're doing a lot better a lot more successful at finding matches uh the truth we were on episode seven i think and there have been been three truth booths successfully matched.
Starting point is 00:58:06 And the last episode we watched, they had six beams. Yeah. So, like, they're kind of crushing it. But I don't love the people in the house. As much as I... Season three had, like, oh, man, you had everybody in that house. Season two, like, I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:20 There's some good characters. There's a whole mechanic that is also kind of gross where there's an 11th woman in the house. Yeah. There's some good characters. There's a whole mechanic that is also kind of gross where there's an 11th woman in the house. Yeah. And she knows that she is part of a two-person match with one of the guys. So one of the guys has two women that they match with. And whoever matches with that guy in the truth booth, the other woman has to go home. And that seems like just like, hey, fuck you, women team.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah. You all have to be constantly worried about going home if one of these people matches. And every time there is a match, Christina has to worry that she's the one that's going to be going home because she's the other part of the match. Part of the reason I think they're more successful is there's no penalty for blackouts. So they're able to take a lot more risks. Yeah. They've learned so much from them. They've had two blackouts.
Starting point is 00:58:58 They had one week where they only matched one person. And now they know who that one person is. So essentially, they've had three blackouts. Yeah. That they can use to, like, they crack it right they would be so well i had somebody spoil for me oh no crack it um i i kind of want to spend the 20 bucks or whatever to watch season one oh man i know it's a tough proposition but justin and sydney are so crazy about it no and also we know that one of the people on season one gets married and has a baby. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:59:25 I want to see that shit formulate, you know? All right, we'll talk about it. That's it for this episode. Thank you guys for continuing to stick with us. I'm wondering if some people
Starting point is 00:59:37 dropped out when we stopped covering The Bachelor or Bachelorette. Yeah, probably. We can do. What day is it? It is a month to the day.
Starting point is 00:59:46 We're recording this on the 23rd of April. May 23rd, I think, is when Bachelorette comes on. I think so. Did you see the first image with JoJo? What, just of her wearing a dress? USA Today ran this picture with the headline, Tear-free JoJo looks stunning as the star of The Bachelorette. Oh, God. And the promo image for The bachelorette and the promo image for the
Starting point is 01:00:06 bachelorette the woman's not crying can you believe that just look at her out there she looks great she looks great ready to have some fun ready to great arms great arms powerful mind um they also announced bachelor and paradise will begin in August. Oh, that's going to be another break, huh? Well, that's fine, because that'll shorten that harsh winter break. Yeah. What are we even going to fucking do? I don't know. I feel like we've watched all of the shows.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I know that there are more shows, but I don't know if I could keep up this kind of pace of just just the dredges what if we arrange our own you know how wrestling has like amateur semi-pro circuits okay what if we establish our own austin local dating live show rachel's smiling right now giving me two big things that's not true at all so so we identify the contestants and we force them to date each other we wouldn't we would cast them we would cast it like people would come to us cast is another way of saying identify okay but we would cast them there'd be an extensive casting process we would have hot young singles or not maybe old average looking singles okay just like a fucking grab bag you know what i mean get as much diversity in there as we possibly can and then maybe we do it at like the draft house and we
Starting point is 01:01:30 can just get like we just have we just do speed dating but everybody's got microphones so we can hear everything so you're listening to like 12 dates going on all at the same time and you have a little uh clicker you're like secret headphones and they've got a dial on them you can switch between the 12 channels and listen to any of the conversations and at the end you have to guess who the matches are did you get some vitamin water sponsorship money that i didn't know about uh no i you know i haven't drank super water and that's like my my creed he really hasn't yeah when we started doing rose with the z buddies with the z i've been trying out new bevs and maybe that'll be like what's griffin drinking this week they that can be a new segment right now it's trader joe's brewed ginger
Starting point is 01:02:07 beer too sweet for me too sweet for rachel i love it gives me strong kidneys um that's it for the show thank you for listening guys we'll talk to you next week we'll let you know in the facebook group to go to the facebook group rose buddies it's just called rose buddies i think it's just called rose buddies it's on facebook we talk about what show we're gonna watch next there you got over what we got like four thousand i mean it's over two thousand i don't want to say four i'm gonna say four thousand it's not four thousand two thousand two hundred sixteen members halfway there halfway there over halfway there um but that's it it's gonna do it for us. Until next time, I'm Griffin McElroy. I'm Rachel McElroy.
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