Wonderful! - Wonderful! 207: Boy Performer

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hello, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. This is a show that we do about things that are good and that we love. Yes. You can't tell us any different. You can't come in here and demand these changes. Like, the advertisers want more, you know, lewd talk.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Oh, I thought you were suggesting that people would come in and say, you don't like hot dogs. Oh, no. I'm saying, like, the advertisers. They want us to get raunchy yeah like raunchy they're like you're married prove it by talking by talking lewd dirty stuff and we're like we don't this is a family show oh we were raised to be shame driven thank you thank you very much i'm not gonna talk about my body. No way. We're sex positive, but- But terrified of our own parts.
Starting point is 00:01:06 But so scared. So, so scared. Yeah. When I take a shower, I have to have all the lights off. Thank you very much. Weird way to start the episode. I think it was your choice, though. I think it was my choice.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Yeah. Well, the advertisers sort of forced our hand a little bit. True, true. But DoorDash just wants it sexy. I don't get it. Do you have any small wonders? Oh, my gosh. I'm going to say the boy performer that came to our house.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Let's talk about the boy performer. I, you know, Henry just turned five, and we knew this was maybe going to be the first birthday party he actually remembered. And he started expressing interest in what the party would contain. And I wanted this one to be big. You know, in the past, like, for example, the theme of his first birthday was balls, just because Henry liked to play with balls. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:58 The second one was hats because Henry liked hats. It meant that I didn't have to put any effort into the upfront. But this one felt like important. So I reached out to an organization yeah the avengers that had connections with both princesses and superheroes and i said i would like a superhero and the person on the phone said which superhero would you like and i indicated the one that i wanted and they said let me check with our boy performers and get back to you such a fun phrase I'm gonna say that that is my job title like whenever somebody asked me like for paperwork or whatever like what's your job title I usually say podcast producer because it's the most official sounding way to refer to the bullshit that I do but I could also just say me
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm a boy performer I'm a boy performer uh there were pictures on the website and i i knew that this was going to be a professional operation just based on the photos but i mean it was exactly 30 minutes i was given an overview of the services that would be provided uh and there was a suggestion that this boy performer would basically take over the party for us and all the parents could stand around and just enjoy the fact that their child was being entertained that is more or less how it panned out by a person in costume who was very committed so committed yeah like could have been i would say toby's stunt double have i said spider-man i kind of i don't know i for some reason i decided to keep saying I know. I kind of wanted to leave it open. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah. But yes, correct. It was Spider-Man. Yeah. He did a great job. He did a great job. Should I talk about the video? At one point, he was playing Spidey Says with the kids, and I was filming it because it
Starting point is 00:03:37 was super cute. And then he bent down to tell everybody to touch their toes. Not his toes. Touch their toes. And his toes, touch their toes. And his, his, his suit was pretty tight. And so his butt was,
Starting point is 00:03:49 was out. And so I like panned down when he bent over to touch his toes. Cause like, I was just following the action. And then I realized I was like right up on his Heiner. Like frantically. Like, and then I frantically panned back up,
Starting point is 00:04:02 like instinctively. It's a pretty funny, I would never post it online because it is, I felt a little, a bit accidentally revealing. But my puritanical. Yeah, you like course corrected in a way that was so just like reflexive that it was very entertaining. This dude came here and is doing an incredible job to entertain our children. I don't want to creep shot Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:04:26 So, yes, that was that we got a hearty laugh out of my own hang ups there. Yeah, that was a fun one. OK, what's your small? I don't have. I really should have. I was so excited to think about and talk about boy performer Spider-Man that I didn't. I thought you might draw on just our experience from the past few days. We did.
Starting point is 00:04:43 We did a lot of exciting holiday celebration and birthday. Yeah, you know, putting up the tree to the Vince Giraldi trio. Like, you cannot really beat that. You know, we had a nice Thanksgiving meal. It was just, it was a nice, it was a very exhausting weekend. Got Henry his first vax shot, which was thrilling and came out of nowhere. Just like there at the annual checkup. And the doctor was like, we got the vax.
Starting point is 00:05:09 And I was like, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, we didn't have to go to a CVS. We could do it in a professional establishment with people that were familiar with our child. Yeah, Henry was a big boy about it. Can you demo your soothing voice that you use to calm our son before anything challenging yeah you know it was like now listen buddy remember it only hurts for a second and last time that you got your shots it only hurt for just a few seconds and then they put the band-aid on and it's all better then after he got the shot he was still upset and so i we held hands and i was
Starting point is 00:05:43 like you're gonna count to 10 and take a big deep breath in between each number by the time that kid got to 10 man i know man i gotta tell you like using that voice i would do almost anything for you so just keep that in mind in the context of me using it to soothe our panicked child that's not just the same and i'm not i'm not getting raunchy here as much as our advertisers would like i'm just saying that if you were like rachel would you take out the trash and maybe finish up the dishes i'd be like yes yes i will griffin you're making me sound like the quits that's hot like um i'm so glad that you can get those references now these days that makes me excited barely barely get them um it was a good weekend for me feeling really good about myself as a dad yeah we got a big boy in the house and he's turning out great and i think that's in large part
Starting point is 00:06:32 to you well and to you honey you know i like to think that i do the first couple years like i really get in there on the first couple years and then i kind of step back and you you're going to take over the rest of his life i mean i know how rough those first couple years are on you i think that is actually i'm still in recovery from those first couple years uh and i'm having to do them again so i'm happy to let you parent for the next i don't know 50 or 90 50 years okay fine uh i go first this week okay um i'm i am gonna talk about owls i am gonna get deep and talk about owls. Think about it, though. Your brain immediately went, owls?
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then you thought about owls for a second, and then you're like, actually, yeah. Can I ask what inspired your segment? What inspired my segment to talk about owls? Whenever you bring a segment, I try and go back through our week and figure out where this segment originated. this segment originated um i was thinking about uh things that got me excited uh just sort of knowing that they are around like sounds that make me excited for the thing and then i thought about like our house uh backs up to some some wilderness a small patch of wilderness and you know we will be sitting with our two baby monitors just on on lookout or sound out for a baby sound or a five-year-old sound knowing that like well we have to go you know turn off only murders in the building and go hang out with our
Starting point is 00:07:56 yeah child who's supposed to be sleeping right now but then sometimes you'll hear outside and it's like stop everything i have to know if there are owls around griffin gets really frustrated with me because his hearing is remarkably better than mine he'll be like do you hear that i'm like hear what that outside i'm like i have no idea what you're talking it was an owl it was an owl one time in the morning henry and i got ready and went outside to go to take him to daycare and there was a little owl just like sitting on our front porch like looking at our garage door and i didn't even see him until we got close and he like fluttered up his wings and like bonked into a wall and then flew away and it scared the shit out of me and henry a little bit but then when i realized like
Starting point is 00:08:41 wait a minute that was an owl We talked about it for weeks. Every time we went outside to, like, go to daycare, he would be like, I hope we see an owl today. I just love owls because they are top tier, coolest predator animal. Like, in terms of, like, predatory evolutions, these guys are killing machines, but also are so cute. Like, when I see one, I'm like, oh, look at the cutie. They are very cute. also are so cute like when i see one i'm like oh look at the cutie they are very cute they're so cute they're just like hunch shoulders little round faces with their big yeah i got the biggest eyes and the tiniest little tiny little mouths and they're just so squat and they hop around but then they will fucking kill you silently like a ghost and that's
Starting point is 00:09:23 awesome pass and pass your whole body through their system yeah well no about half your body goes through their system the rest of it comes out as a little now you're a barf fossil idiot it's like whoa insult to injury but so cute too i just love an owl man i love an owl man you know have you seen owl man before yeah he's at the blues games he's at the blues games i love his stuff every time they score every time they score he launches up a bolus it's okay so owls i feel like everybody knows some cool shit about owls but if you take yeah they can rotate their head really far right yep and they barf up the fossils that's all good when you take everything though in one big package owls are kind of it's unbelievable that owls are real and that they have evolved in the way that they have
Starting point is 00:10:08 uh they are solitary in nature they don't really fuck around in groups but when they do you know what you call a group of owls no a parliament of owls that's a good one that's a good one uh they are nocturnal duh and they eat small animals and other birds sometimes and insects and lizards and whatever uh so they're not too picky they'll gobble you up no matter what uh they are divided into two families i don't think i ever realized this there are true owls which are sort of the quintessential owl they got the big eyes the the beaks the eyes are like sort of cat eyes like predator eyes uh and they've just got feathers all over their faces you know a typical owl but then barn owls are the ones with those like
Starting point is 00:10:49 white masks like the big circle of of usually like pale feathers and those aren't true owls those are barn owls and they have like the black cold eyes like a doll's eyes not doesn't it seem like a little elitist they're like these are the true owls and those are the barn a little bit it's like a little city mouse country mouse yes it is two sort of uh taxonomy like level family families of owls okay uh not in the it's not like red state blue state no and not in like the uh fast and the furious context of families it's like in the scientific boring level of families. So owls, they have binocular vision, right? Which lets them see very, very, very far and very, very well from far away, which is why
Starting point is 00:11:35 unlike most nocturnal animals. Oh, that's great. Unlike most nocturnals, they don't use echolocation in the dark. Their eyes are just really really good here's the thing though they're farsighted which means like when something's up close to them they cannot see them very well so you know what they do they use their phylo plumes which are very very like small hair like feathers on their claws and on their beaks that they use as like feelers oh so when you and henry walked up on that owl it maybe
Starting point is 00:12:05 couldn't tell what you were yes i mean it didn't touch us and use its phylo plumes but that's rad that's like i can see you from very very far away and when you get up close i'm like you know on on some like snake shit like yeah yeah i know what's up and i know where you are uh they can rotate their necks very very far do you want to guess how far out of like 360 degrees oh my gosh i know it's like it's like 325 or 270 270 degrees uh which is kind of buck wild like i don't know why you would need to be able to rotate your head more than 180 degrees right because you can go 180 in one direction and then 180 the other direction and that's 360 degrees 270 is like yeah i can see all the way behind me and then some i can turn my head right and see to the left of me that's a lot
Starting point is 00:12:50 of that's a lot that you can do that that's so much the reason they're able to do that they have twice as many neck vertebrae as as we do and they're a little bit more spaced out so that you can turn them but also like that's not it right if it was just that uh sure you could turn your your head in that direction but you would also cut off circulation to your brain and die pretty fast but the like passageways that their arteries and all their blood stuff runs through are like so wide they are cavernous they are 10 times wider than the like arteries that are passing through them so they can do that stuff without cutting off circulation to their brain and dying. So like they are evolutionarily like, wow, that was a word completely built for that shit.
Starting point is 00:13:34 It's like they were like generation through generation. Like we got it. Why? We got to turn our heads further, further. This is very interesting, but all I've been thinking about is whether or not owls get stiff necks and or like if, you know, sometimes they're like a little sore and so they can only see like 230 degrees
Starting point is 00:13:53 and they're like, oh gosh, I really slept wrong. Yeah. Or maybe when they sleep wrong, they accidentally go too far. Oh shit, did you hear about Carl? No, what happened? He 360'd. Oh no, Carl. Uh-oh. accidentally go too far and oh shit did you hear about carl no what happened he 360'd oh no carl
Starting point is 00:14:06 uh-oh um so as if they were not like terrifying predators enough uh their feathers are specially built too they are like much bigger than usual feathers they are super velvety and serrated and i don't know why all of that when put together makes this true but it makes them completely silent in the air like other birds you can kind of hear them coming, but owls are, because of the way their feathers are shaped and it allows them to fly and sort of dive slower than other birds and be completely silent, which is awesome for two reasons. One, the prey cannot hear them, but two, owls, the sound of their own flight doesn't sort of like flood their senses they can hear their prey too over the sound of their own flying so it's like
Starting point is 00:14:54 a two-for-one death combo yeah you can't hear me but i can hear you completely because their hearing is so like powerful gosh and you can't even see those little ears. You can't even see those cute little ears. Their beak is very sharp. They have one sort of hook-shaped part of their beak on top, and the other one underneath is also kind of hook-shaped, so that when they clamp together, it does like a scissor-type motion that kills their prey instantly,
Starting point is 00:15:22 which is genuinely a favor they're doing their prey because then they swallow them whole yes yes see this is this is what i know about owls right it's like they're conscient they do terrible things to their prey but they're conscientious about like you can get the whole little skeleton sometimes in this little leavings in there right but it's not their poop right they snip you so you're dead they swallow you they digest what they can and the rest they barf up in a little conveniently shaped pellet and those pellets are so plentiful like they are so easy to find pellets and that is why they are so like typically like sold to schools for dissections and stuff so that you can like get an idea of what the owl tried to eat which is just radical which is just
Starting point is 00:16:06 it's they are these like genuine predator from predator predators where they can see you perfectly you can't hear them as they dive down on you they gobble you up in a second and barf up what they don't need they are eating machines the owls are yeah and i love all of that stuff when put together because they're also squat little goofballs that look so curious and so like you know sort of up to no good all the time like what are you thinking about little owl you're thinking about if you could swallow me you're thinking about if you could kill me in one bite and swallow me and if i would i you know if i could hear you coming or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's amazing. It is. They're like, they have a lot of similarities with snakes, but they're like so much cuter. They're air sharks is what they are. And the way that sharks are like evolutionarily sort of like designed to kill shit in the water and eat it so that they can keep on killing and eating shit in the water. Owls are just the same way, except sharks, and this may be a contentious sort of uh-huh not not the cutest ocean animal yeah but an owl adorable adorable and you can and they'll live in the barn with you and they they have the little graduation cap and that's how you know they're wise
Starting point is 00:17:22 they have the little graduation cap you know how the whole wise old owl thing and they're like sure sure i don't know for some reason the graduation cap just came to mind that was like a indication that it was learned yeah in the tootsie pop commercials was the owl the one that ate the the or was it the one because i know it hit one two three and then it would eat it in one bite yeah that's just like that's factual yeah yeah that's that's uh that's how they really do it that's how they would eat a tootsie roll pop just something to think about you know when you're super high later hey can i uh can i steal you away please
Starting point is 00:18:05 hey griffin yeah do you do you want to read the boop bop beams that was a little abstract and i don't you did a good job should it rhyme should it rhyme is that part of your criteria it doesn't have to rhyme with itself but like you, you know, jumbo dogs, you know, plumbo blobs. You want to hit that hard ah. Ah, okay. So the boop bop bombs? Yeah, that's better.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah, we're definitely moving in the right direction. Yeah, sure. Do you want to read the first one this time? Sure. As long as we're switching shit up. This message is for Liv. It is from Avery. To my beepus, I love you so enormously.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You bring so much joy and light into the world, and we are all so lucky to have you. I can't wait to keep listening to all the macros with you, whether we're driving across the country or coloring at home. You are kind, beautiful, strong, and amazing. Happy Jumbo Tron Day. I love you. Big love. Your Bopas. Now that's a confusing one because I don't know if it's Bopas or Bopas. Which one do you prefer? I don't know. I think Beep Bop a lot. You know, like when I'm thinking about a robot noise, I think Beep Bop. And so I'm thinking Beepus and Bopas. Beepus and Bopas.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, I guess it's, and that's what's so special about love. Yeah. If you really think about it, yeah. Here's, whoa, wait. Oh my God, Rachel. We were both wrong because this message is for Avery Beepus and it's from Liv.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Oh, Boopus. Beepus, Avery. I love you., Boopus. Beepus Avery. I love you. You fill my life and my heart with love and joy. You are a gift. I love listening to podcasts with you while we color, and I am so excited to keep doing that for many years. In adoration and admiration, Boopus.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I love when Max Fun does this. The stinkers. They both wrote any time frame. So these didn't have to be in the same episode. They didn't have to. But here they this. Those stinkers. They both wrote any time frame. Yeah. So these didn't have to be in the same episode. They didn't have to. But here they are. Here they are.
Starting point is 00:20:09 If this had been in the episode after and they were split up, we definitely would have forgotten. Completely. Completely. But here they are. Beepus and Bopus Boopus. Beepus Beepus plus Bopus Boopus Bopus. In love forever.
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Starting point is 00:21:22 The Pee Wee Herman Radio Hour was produced by Maximum Fun, and can be streamed on kcrW.com until December 3rd. Do you want to talk about what happened to your computer? And see, maybe there's some, like, IT folks in our audience that could, you know, have had this exact situation happen before. And can, like, offer you some advice of, like, oh, when this happened to me me here's what i did to fix it so it's a little embarrassing uh i i will assume that i'm not the only one that has ever done this sure gosh i hike so the other day our son was at daycare and i was um pumping the milk out of my body to make bottles for him. Yeah. And our five-year-old was in the bathroom calling for me.
Starting point is 00:22:10 And in kind of a frantic moment, I... And you're probably wondering, where was Griffin? I was in the other bathroom. Yeah. Doing my own bathroom stuff. Yeah. And some breast milk was dumped into my computer. Unceremoniously, not.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And so now some of the keys work and some of them don't. Some of the keys do different things than they used to. That's awesome. I didn't know that. So, for example, when I press the volume down feature, all of my windows go away. Cool. So all the function keys kind of did a switcheroo and the letter v won't work yeah and the letter c now won't work uh so that's where i am okay well you don't have to you just
Starting point is 00:22:55 can't copy paste like that's the only thing i know i'm having to go up to the menu up top like some kind of philistine yeah can i tell you my thing sure sure you and that's nice thanks that's nice uh it is the macarthur fellows program oh also known as the macarthur genius grant yeah although it has never been called that it's never been called the macarthur well not by them i imagine no i mean yeah so it was kind of developed uh in in discussion like you don't have to be a genius apparently the media coined that nickname in 1981 uh when the first when the first class of fellows was announced and it just kind of stuck um it's narrow because like the the genius thing is kind of narrow because, like, a lot of different people can get it. The whole point is to kind of advance creativity.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And so, yeah, so you don't, like, have to have some kind of score on some kind of, you know. Genius test. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to be, like, a Mensa member to get it. It is intended to, quote, encourage people of outstanding talent to pursue their own creative, intellectual, and professional inclinations. So recipients can be writers, scientists, artists, humanists, teachers, entrepreneurs.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Musicians, drawers, people who draw. People who draw. Yeah, there was a cartoonist that won recently. Yeah. It was fucking Scottist that won recently. Yeah, it's fucking Scott Adams. Dilbert.
Starting point is 00:24:30 People were like, oh, man, wait a minute. He could have just a normal tie that just sat against his shirt in a normal way. Takes a real genius to turn it up. Huge genius brain. And it wasn't only until recently when people like, wait minute this is commentary on like today's business i didn't really think about i thought it was just a funny comic but like this guy's saying a lot of stuff about business today i don't even put that together can i tell you more about this program sure i'll say real quick about scott adams though i don't know this dude but based on the things he says about
Starting point is 00:25:05 business i'm guessing he is like dyed in the wool pro-union like anti-work like super liberal uh you know humanist like watching out for your fellow man and if anybody deserves this granted it should be him am i right about that or am I right? This is maybe the second or third episode where you've chosen to go on a Dilbert rant. Just vociferously endorsed the super, super woke Scott Adams and the great work he does. Keep it up, pal. So this prize is awarded annually to between 20 and 30 people. It does not accept applications whoa so anonymous and confidential nominations are invited by the foundation and reviewed by an anonymous and
Starting point is 00:25:52 confidential selection committee okay so people aren't submitting applications to this thing like you just find out usually you find out when you have received it like you do not know that you are under consideration so where did the many applications i've sent for this thing i don't know is it like letters to santa you're applying to the mcarthur fellow program which is a mcdonald's program where you just get a lot of hamburgers well see i haven't gotten that either so i know i'll go to mcdonald's today so you have to be a genius for that one yeah duh okay uh the prize is 625 000 paid over five years uh which was increased from 500 000 in 2013 uh you know awesome the mcarthur genius grant is adjusted for inflation but not the minimum wage excellent good good good uh so the three criteria are exceptional creativity promise for important
Starting point is 00:26:54 future advances based on a track record of significant accomplishments and potential for the fellowship to facilitate subsequent creative work oh okay so the idea is like this money is supposed to help you right make bigger better things although there is kind of like a a rumored macarthur curse uh because the idea is that they you get all this money for you know like your significant accomplishments and then you're just so like bogged down by the fact that you want it and there's an expectation you're going to create more there was this interview in the los angeles times with this choreographer that won it and he talked about how the prize helped him erase his student loans and help provide his dancers with health care uh but then you know he got it in 2013 and he was just paralyzed by it of just this idea of like i
Starting point is 00:27:47 have to work super hard i have to make the best i've ever made like i have to earn this why did i get it like i have to demonstrate that i was worthy of it like it's wild it can be a total like impediment to actually creating which is the reason you got it in the first place because you're you're thinking like how do i demonstrate that this was the right call? Do people ever refuse it? I wonder, because that's a genuine concern of like, well, hold up, because I don't really work well with the kind of expectation that I have to retroactively earn this thing
Starting point is 00:28:14 that I didn't apply. I mean, so here's the thing. There are no strings attached. You don't have to report any kind of products or outcomes. There's no evaluation of the recipient's creativity during the term of the fellowship. It's not like you can lose it halfway through. So I can't imagine turning it down because they're not going to be like, and what did you do? Yeah. And a lot of really important people have won it. I don't know. It's exciting just to see the range too.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Like I've mentioned a lot of poets that have won it in the past, graphic novelists, puppeteers, neuroscientists, mathematicians, jazz composers. The friend of the show, Lin-Manuel Miranda has won it.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And it, you know, allows them to, oh, Jad Abumrad won it too. Okay. Jad Abumrad. There you go.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And yeah, it's been around since the 80s and has really changed the lives of a lot of the recipients. Sure. And just a quick shout out to John Donald MacArthur and his wife, Catherine T. MacArthur. McDonald MacArthur and his wife, Catherine T. MacArthur. Neither of them came from particularly, you know, magnificent or, you know, auspicious backgrounds. John was one of seven children and was born in a co-producing area of Eastern Pennsylvania and just made some really great investments early in his life, bought a life insurance company and then made some real estate investments. And then, you know, when he passed away, he had like a billion dollars basically built up and was convinced prior to his death to start this foundation. And then kind of left it up to
Starting point is 00:29:56 the board like, all right, you guys, I'm not going to make the call on this. You all can figure out how to best invest this money. That's fascinating because I thought all you could do once you had a billion dollars was use it to make more billions of dollars or go into or try and go into outer space. And then his wife was one of nine children born to Irish immigrants and she ended up keeping the books throughout the career and then did the records for a variety of companies anonymously under her maiden name, C.T. Hyland,
Starting point is 00:30:30 in the position of corporate secretary, director, or both. And then he passed away in 1978 and she passed away in 1981. And since then...
Starting point is 00:30:39 It's like the notebook. Sorry, it's not funny to laugh at people who died i'm just imagining that ending scene taking three years uh i just i don't know i'm always excited when there's an opportunity for creative people to receive recognition just for being creative uh without having to you know produce some kind of ROI. Yeah, like, well, show me how many cartoons you drew after this. Okay, I am betting that more than most people on the earth, though, that is of interest to you because it is antithetical to what your job is, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Like your whole job is securing grants that must be reported, that there was some level of success for the funds based on the sort of intention that you implied with them for. Well, and it's just, it's just, it's really prohibitive. You know, typical grants are really prohibitive to kind of grassroots efforts because, you know, in order to make a good case for yourself, you have to have a certain amount of resources to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah. You have to prove that certain amount of resources to do it. Yeah. You have to prove that you can do this shit. Exactly. Like before I give you your money, you have to show me that you can manage this amount of money. And it's a very kind of like suspicious approach to giving out awards. Whereas this one is like,
Starting point is 00:31:59 hey, you wrote a really great book and you've given some really great talks and I'm confident that you're going to do great things and here's some money and good luck. Yeah. I like that a lot. Yeah, I do too. Hey, thanks to Bowen and Augustus for the use of our theme song Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description.
Starting point is 00:32:16 And thank you to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. There's so many fucking shows on there, gang. There's like a thousand billion shows on there, gang. Uh-huh. on there, gang. There's like a thousand billion shows on there, gang. Uh-huh. There's a delightful little show called Just the Zoo of Us, where they debate
Starting point is 00:32:30 animals, and how great they are, and what different, you know, it's basically what my segment on this episode of Wonderful was, but way, way, way smarter. So go check that one out. Why don't you? Why don't you do that? We have a bunch of merch at McRoyMerch.com that I wish you would go check out.
Starting point is 00:32:48 And you know what? We also got our Candle Nights show. Oh, yeah. That is coming up very soon. Griffin and I made a little video for it that we really enjoyed making. And I think you will enjoy, too. The show is a pre-taped virtual spectacular for Candle Nights.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It's on December 18th at 9 p.m. Eastern time. Tickets are on sale now for $5 with an option to give more and all proceeds from those tickets go to Benefit Harmony House, which is an organization we love in Huntington that helps to support people experiencing homelessness. You can get those tickets at bit.ly
Starting point is 00:33:24 slash Candle Nights 2021 and the video on demand will be available through January 2nd. We got segments from all the shows in that. And it is it is always like if you are not feeling festive, I recommend a dose of Candle Nights because it always warms my heart. And we have beloved guests who sent in stuff as well. Dave Wal walters hank green uh gene gray paul and storm uh adam brody uh which is wild and wonderful to me so yeah go check that out again bit.ly slash candle nights 2021 we're going to be debuting it live at december 18th at 9 p.m eastern time yeah i think that's it that's it thank you so much for listening and being here with us and believing in us. That's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 A lot of people when we started were like, a show about things you like and things you're into? By lovers? Made by lovers? Get out of here with that. You know, we did that whole episode on what the folks at home are interested in. Yeah. And I think at that time we indicated we would continue to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And here we are. then we did fucking forget well we only forget stuff like that when our backs up our back up against the wall um in terms of like how much time we have to record uh which ah dang wouldn't you know it is true virtually every time that we record but we'll try and be better about it yeah thank you all goodbye go with god and also with you be find peace today and treat your treat the other people on earth pretty good uh-huh that's those were some of my favorite bible verses Bye. Hey! Hey!

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