Wonderful! - Wonderful! 208: Any Food is Sexy if You Work With It Long Enough

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hey guys, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is Wonderful. Hey. Hey. Hey, welcome back. Ooh, I like this guy. Do you? I bet you don't.. And this is Wonderful. Hey. Hey. Hey, welcome back. Ooh, I like this guy. Do you?
Starting point is 00:00:27 I bet you don't. No, I don't. I knew it. I can always tell when you're humoring, like a voice or a character that I've generated. Well, after eight years of marriage. Happy anniversary. We are so tired that we didn't plan nothing to do today Yeah, I think we kind of knew though, right?
Starting point is 00:00:48 Like when Henry was born on Black Friday Yeah We knew that our anniversary was going to kind of suffer as a result And that has been pretty much universally true But that's okay We have plenty of time coming up to shower each other. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:08 In water and in love. Yeah, yeah, yeah? Yeah? When our shower's almost finished in our new bathroom. Yeah, sure, I can't wait. But also, you know, right around the corner
Starting point is 00:01:21 from that Christmas. From that Christmas creep, yeah. And then it's birthday season for you and me. Uh-huh. And Gus. And Gus. Who was born the day after my birthday. So, yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:01:31 We fucked up a lot of timings, didn't we? We did ruin a lot of things by having children, huh? We should have. Like, August looks pretty good to me, the month, not this child. Hello. That's going to get confusing, too. He's kind of a cutie. And so, like, we could have gotten married there
Starting point is 00:01:46 or yes uh to circle back i died you don't like that voice that you did okay do you think we should have planned our conception better so that we would have had a child like in i i don't know may late may that would have been great but for all those out there with may birthdays town in i think in august for all those with may birthdays though i'm sure they would tell you that their birthday often gets uh not as celebrated because a lot of for example school is out of session in may and maybe you know like having but i don't know anyway we couldn't really plan much with the having the baby because we really did try for a very long time in both cases. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:27 But I feel like we could have done it, you know, like super good in August. Like I think we can both agree we were really phoning it in for most of the time. This is very personal. Thank you for listening. This is wonderful. It's a show we talk about things we like, things we're into. And do you want to talk about a small wonder? Because I know what mine is.
Starting point is 00:02:48 You should go first. Fucking Encanto, my man. Oh my God. Or Encanto. No, yeah. See, I've been wanting to say Encanto and I have had a lot of people correct me and say Encanto.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And I feel like one is maybe Americanized and one isn't. Yes. And maybe I'm trying too hard when I say Encanto. I don't, I'm not 100% sure. But I feel like that's how they say it in the film. Yeah, I think so too. Anyway, this film is astonishing. We saw it with Henry all together.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And yeah, it's so dope. Like, I hope this doesn't come, this endorsement doesn't come off as biased because, you know, we adore Lin and enjoy him so very much. But this movie, it's the first movie I've seen in a long time that fucked me up. The last maybe 25 minutes of it
Starting point is 00:03:37 just had me leaking from all my head parts. For me, it was almost the whole film yes um and i think that's because it works it works very nicely on the level that your kids will appreciate which is just like oh it's this family of people with superpowers and there's great music in it but then there's like a deeper level about like family and and and feeling and feeling inadequate when compared to the family and the pressure that like those superpowers or talent or whatever put put on the people that they like aren't allowed to talk about or surface like yeah like if you have ever had a complicated uh relationship with a family member uh which is probably 100 of our listeners i would assume right
Starting point is 00:04:22 uh that movie is going to do things to you. It is also like an exploration of magical realism to a scale that I've never seen really in an animated movie before. It felt like a classic from the very first scene. And I can't endorse it enough. I think it's my favorite movie of the year for sure. What about you? This is gonna sound a little commercialism of me, but I like a good gift shop when you're visiting a place. Sure. You know, so we went to the aquarium in Seattle,
Starting point is 00:04:57 which was perfect for our children. Yeah. And they had a really nice little gift shop at the end. They had a bunch of like cute clothing items and toys and stuff. And it was just really nice because, you know, our son is of an age where anytime we go anywhere, he is interested in whether or not there's going to be a store there so he can get a toy. And sometimes you get to the end of these places and they're just- It's like, here's some buttons and shot glasses yeah like here's a magnet
Starting point is 00:05:27 and something that you could probably buy anywhere but we stamped our name on it the Seattle Aquarium gift shop was really great thank you Seattle Aquarium gift shop I bet you never thought you were going to get highlighted on this particular podcast but here we are
Starting point is 00:05:44 hey do you want to tell me about your thing yes cool so inspired by our recent uh trip to seattle my first thing is oysters yeah largely in the fact that we were not able to get them but but i love those slimy little guys yeah they're they're it's it's like um it's fun to eat it's like a lunchable i was really excited because i think i like pacific oysters i did maybe better i do as well they're that's probably my and it's boy how do we sound hoity-toity when we say that we've had oysters maybe 10 times total at restaurants we are not like experts but i don't know if this is true for you but for me like i don't think i really started eating oysters until i met you yo are you fucking kidding me i was eating fucking hot dogs and ramen like non-stop and taco bell
Starting point is 00:06:38 does taco bell do oysters let me try and remember no they don't do i mean there is a shell uh that that is crunchy but it is not a oyster shell yeah for me it didn't we took a trip to new orleans shortly after uh we had gotten together with all of our friends and we ate oysters a lot that's when it really uh that's when it really hit for me i was like oh shit i like these slimy little fellas yeah i feel like griffin and i are a relatively food adventurous uh and that has led us to oysters yeah um and i was trying to figure out why i liked it because it's difficult to kind of explain because they are unlike anything else you know like you can't really compare it to anything like if you were trying to sell okay here it's good exercise if you were
Starting point is 00:07:23 trying to sell somebody on oysters, what would you say? I mean, oh, God. I would probably just like quote the intro chapter to Anthony Bourdain's, what was his book called? Kitchen Confidential. Oh, yeah. It like talks about, honestly, reading that probably is the biggest reason I got into oysters because he talks about like how he just went out on an oyster boat when he was
Starting point is 00:07:44 a kid and he didn't give a shit about food but then he like saw people just lifting these shells up from the sea and stabbing a knife in them and just slurping them down and it felt so like forbidden and like seductive and transgressive that he's like i've got to try one of those and he did and he's he like is the thing he quotes as being like the reason he got really into food and i think that all checks like you don't need anything else like that and it's just like a concentrated flavor blast of whatever water they came out of yeah exactly and that's dope that's incredible yeah i think that is one of the things i love about it is that it's just like oh i'm eating
Starting point is 00:08:21 the ocean right now yeah kind of like it's really transportative for me. Like, I could eat oysters anywhere and feel like, oh, my gosh, I've just, like, traveled through time and space. But I don't really know anything about them. Okay. You know, like, whenever we order oysters, they always list out where it's from. And I'm always like, oh, just give us a sample of all of them because I don't remember what I like. And so I wanted to do some research to see if maybe I could remember. So first of all, oysters have been like cultivated for consumption since at least 2000 BC in Japan.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This is not a recent trend. Although New York used to be like the place to eat oysters. And when the Dutch arrived in the 17th century, the island was covered in oyster beds. Oh, interesting. Like you could get oysters like at street vendors. But they really kind of ravaged those oyster beds. Right. And now, unfortunately, that is not the case.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I also didn't really know how oysters work, you know, which is kind of fascinating. So they usually reach maturity in a year and they are protandric, which is not a word I was familiar with it, but it means they have male and female sexual organs. The male organs when they're young and then female later in life. young and then female later in life so uh they spawn as males in their first year and then in the next two to three years they spawn as females by releasing eggs uh they usually bay oysters usually spawn from june to august uh because of the increase in water temperature and then like all of a sudden like everybody everybody's going and the water is just, like, clouded with eggs and sperm. Awesome. Fucking spring break, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Exactly. So then the oyster larvae, they're, like, less than an inch long, and they kind of are nowadays, like, stimulated to adult status. Where the shell come from? They actually, I was reading something that suggests that they find shells, like kind of like hermit crabs. They like cozy up in there. Where though? Well, I mean, there's shells everywhere in the water.
Starting point is 00:10:42 But they don't grow their own shell? No, I don't think so. So they just go to a shell they find and they jizz in it and they're like, this is your home. Bye. Good luck. Now you're Googling. Do oyster grow its shell? So here's what I read that made me think that.
Starting point is 00:11:00 So I read something that said the eggs become fertilized in the water and develop into larvae which eventually find suitable sites such as another oyster shell on which to settle but they also do definitely grow their own shells oh they do yeah for sure i mean something would have to come first right like at some point right the first oyster didn't wasn't just flopping around like a you know little bundle of snot in the ocean. It was like, oh, check out that dope shell. Let's live in that one. I was picturing like a hermit crab scenario, but you're right.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Like that ultimately doesn't make sense going back to the beginning. No, not. Yeah, not. I actually, I only knew that because of Ethersea because I did a clam based sort of episode. And I also thought like, do clams just find shells laying around and go for it? There are marine biologists listening to this who are just rotating wildly and screaming. I'm gonna get so many links on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah. But I didn't research the shell part because usually what I do is I eat the inside. I don't know if that's unique to me. You should try the outside. It hurt so bad. Okay, so there are kind of two kinds of oysters. There are true oysters, which are the ones that are edible,
Starting point is 00:12:15 and then there are pearl oysters. It turns out almost all shell-bearing mollusks can make pearls, but most are not very valuable. It's just sand that they just kind of goose together. Well, here's the thing. Pearls can form in both saltwater and freshwater. That's interesting. Yeah, which I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Five species of edible oysters. There are the Pacific oysters, or sometimes called the Japanese oysters, the Kumamoto oysters, the European flat oysters, Atlantic oysters, and Olympia oysters. What makes them different is kind of like the size of the shell. So European flat has a large straight shell. Pacific oysters are smaller with wavy casings. Kumamotos are also smaller, but the shell is rounder.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And Olympias also are kind of smaller and rounder with some iridescent coloring. Oh, and the Atlantic looks, in the description I read, the Atlantic looks like a comma or teardrop and tends to be on the larger side. Okay. So that's like helpful, right? I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you go to a restaurant and they bring you out, I don't know if this happens to everybody, but for us, they'll bring us out a little tray. And then they'll very quickly tell you what each one is.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And then they walk away and I immediately forget. It's all gone from my mind. So it's helpful now at least to have like the shells as a reference point. Oysters also supposedly taste better in the winter. Just because they are colder. And the colder they are, the better. Especially before refrigeration. And the summer months, as I mentioned, is when they're spawning
Starting point is 00:13:47 and they have kind of a weaker watery flavor. So yeah, so there are certain places like oyster farms and companies that don't even bother to bring in oysters in the summer. Not as fascinating. They used to say in months ending in R was the advice on when to eat oysters. Let's really throw our hat over the fence here. What is your favorite way to dress an oyster? I just like lemon juice.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Yeah. I do lemon juice and sometimes I will do like a molecule of horseradish. Yeah. Because it really ignites the whole thing. It's like oyster nitro. I think if I had been eating oysters for longer maybe i would be more adventurous but like i still feel like i'm figuring out what i like about them yeah so i don't want to like put a bunch of other flavor it's what's so fun about
Starting point is 00:14:34 eating oysters is we don't know we really don't know i feel the same way about wine sometimes although like i've definitely had oysters i did not enjoy the taste of but most of the time it's pretty good and I don't know I can say that about wine some of which tastes like um stinky like stinky medicine um so oysters are also rumored to be an aphrodisiac well yeah uh but there's like no real evidence backing that up do you remember when I bought oysters for us to eat at home and we couldn't, we couldn't get into like most of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And most of them were pretty dead by the time, like had been long, long dead. That was a big bummer. Yeah. I still like, I still want to figure that out though. Cause I feel like there's a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I don't have to go to a restaurant. Do I, do we have to move? I think we'd have to move? I think we have to move. Oysters pack a wallop of zinc. Oh, my favorite. I'm just reading. Good for the bones, I think.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Which is good for keeping up your energy. And that energy is kind of, I think, what people think of as connected to your- For boner energy. Yeah, for boning. Boner energy. Bone zone. kind of i think what people think of like as connected to your energy from from yeah for for bone boning bone boner energy bone so are you okay i'm so tired you always get so uncomfortable specifically when we talk about boner energy well i i just like as somebody who uh doesn't have that accoutrement, I feel a little excluded, I guess I'll say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Well. Oysters also have iron, calcium, selenium, vitamin A and vitamin B12. And they're very low-cal and rich in protein. Yeah. So apparently two oysters can get you all the zinc and vitamin B12 you need for your day. That's why every morning. I was reading this article that said, oh, oysters are associated with being aphrodisiac. And then it said partially because they resemble female sex organs, which I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:16:40 That's not. That's not. I don't. That's why? Maybe you. Are you? That's not. That's not? Really?
Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't. That's why? Maybe you, are you? I mean, you could say the same of any food if you work with it long enough. Yeah. Why are these mashed potatoes making me so horny? Look at it. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Which is a great time to introduce our new cooking show. Uh-huh. Which is, any food is sexy if you work with it long enough each week it look like a sex organ each week competitors are tasked with creating a delicious dish and then shaping it into a sex organ that i would yeah i'd watch that our judges are our judges are prue still prue still gotta have prue who is nasty now um i really want to eat some fucking oysters i know see i was maybe gonna go buy some today but now now you're acting like it would be it would it would be a bad idea can you get carry out oysters i imagine it's like a
Starting point is 00:17:37 transporting a human heart for surgery yeah they give you like seven minutes to get there i don't know we'll have to do some, but I would really like to eat some today. That's oysters. I love those slimy little guys. That's oysters. The shells are pretty too. They are. Can I steal you away?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Yes. Got a couple of rumpled prompts here, and I would love to read the first one because it is for Tyler. And it's from Kelsey, who says, From Space Jam to Apple Jelly and all the memories we've made together in between, each moment is a pinpoint for all the reasons that I love you. I'm forever happy you are my last and final Tinder match. I can't wait to eat dinner standing in our kitchen listening to the McElroys with you forever.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know, I ate a whole jar of apple jelly while watching Space Jam once. Can I tell you that Space Jam and apple jelly? It is symmetrical in a nice way. It's nice. And also, I feel like a whole poem could be written just about that phrase. Yeah, and I want to talk about apple jam and space jelly. Yeah, and I want to talk about Apple Jam and Space Jelly. Space Jelly would be a fun sort of like parody, like scary movie style parody of Space Jam. I'm trying to think about how that song would go.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Like, come on and... Jelly. Jelly, and welcome to the jelly. Space Jelly. I don't know what's so hard about this. It's easy, and it flows right from the tongue. Can I read you the next one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:09 This message is for Sable. It is from Max. Hi, I love you. Won't you tell me your name? Oh, sorry. You're my very best friend. And these past four plus years have been really nice. I hope you're listening to this while knee deep in plant dirt so that I can remind you that you're gross and sweaty and need to take a shower when you get inside.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Let's do sushi for dinner. Love, your freezer. Listen, I have no green thumbs, right? But I'm pretty sure that you should not be burying your the lower half of your legs when you are doing gardening I'm pretty sure if that's happening you have made a mistake somewhere
Starting point is 00:19:53 I love the utility of the jumbotron in that you can tell your partner that you love them and also that they should take a shower yeah and also that hey it's sushi tonight I like that the most the whole to do list crossed off Also that they should take a shower. Yeah. And also that, hey, it's sushi tonight. Yeah. I like that the most.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's a whole to-do list crossed off. Sure. Well, Manolo, we have a show to promote. It's called Dr. Game Show. It's a family-friendly podcast where listeners submit games and we play them with callers from around the world. Oh, sounds good. New episodes happen every other Wednesday on MaximumFun.org. It's a fast and loose oasis of absurd innocence and naivete.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Are you writing a poem? No, I'm just saying things from my memory. And it's a nice break from reality. Are we allowed to say that? I don't know. It sounds bad. It comes with a 100% happiness guarantee. It does not. Come for the games and stay for the chaos.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I very much enjoyed researching my thing for this segment. I want to say that at the top. I was waiting for you to prompt me, though. Because you're always got to be like, please tell me about it. Hey, Griffin. Yeah. I would really like to hear what you brought this week to us.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I brought cosplay this week to us. Oh, my gosh. So we just went to, we were working at Emerald City Comic Con, which was a blast, by the way, if you came out. We met a bunch of wonderful fans, and that was rad. And we did shows that went great, by the way, if you came out. We met a bunch of wonderful fans and that was rad. And we did shows that went great. And the city is gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's also my first convention ever. Yeah. Either as like an attendee or like a guest. And wow. It was really fun to watch the show both through your eyes and Henry's eyes. Yeah. Because I've been to so many of these, both from like the gaming side when I was working at Joystick and then's eyes. Yeah. Because I've been to so many of these, both from the gaming side when I was working at Joystick
Starting point is 00:21:48 and then Polygon, and then for the graphic novels, like doing San Diego Comic-Con every year and Dragon Con and a bunch of cons that I'm pretty inured to it. Something clicked in my brain because, you know, I have been to events where people are in cosplay. And I always was kind of like, how did this happen? Where did this start?
Starting point is 00:22:13 Like, how did they put together this idea to come dressed as a character? And then when I went to the Emerald City Comic Con comic-con i was like oh this is it right this is where it starts right here right i actually have some stuff on the history of cosplay that i'm like excited to talk about it is especially at these like specifically comic-cons like the cosplay is so is so strong um but i've been again i've been to so many of these shows that like it doesn't necessarily register with me unless the cosplay is like buck wild that is what is crazy to me because so we went on when we started with the joko cruise which is like a cruise for people who are usually interested in things like you know nerd shit you
Starting point is 00:22:58 can say right yeah comic books and video games and all that stuff and and that was kind of my first experience of being somewhere where people were in that stuff and and that was kind of my first experience of being somewhere where people were in cosplay right and i remember just kind of i feel like i was looking around like is everybody seeing this yeah and you were like not reacting in that way and i was like griffin is so comfortable with this immediately and now it makes sense that you like started at this convention life yeah early uh but with henry specifically this time we took him to the show floor like once or twice and it was like we had just transported him to fucking imagination land where anything was possible because he just like uh he was just running around feverishly like
Starting point is 00:23:39 there's a big snorlax there's a big pikachu he went he got um he got an action pose with what he called a guy with a big sword and it was cloud strife from final fantasy 7 and it and he looks so cool and it's like action pose right next to it and and for him like i think he knows for him it's not just people wearing costumes although i do think he knows that on some sort of level because he saw a Snorlax with his head fucking off in the elevator and he didn't have a complete like meltdown. Like what? What happens?
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's interesting because for his birthday, as you may recall, if you've listened to a recent episode, we invited a Spider-Man, a boy performer, a boy performer that was dressed as Spider-Man. And i'm wondering if something was happening in his head like wait wait a minute there's spider-man's here too right yeah it it's amazing though because even though he knows i think that they're not just that they're not the real guys like it's still like oh these
Starting point is 00:24:42 are those characters that are walking and talking because some part of cosplay not everyone but some of it it is like there's a role-playing element to it where they are not just they don't just look like those characters they are in in character and so i think especially in cases like that uh you know he walks away from cloud stripe saying man that guy was so brooding uh he's tortured by his past and anyway uh big thanks by the way to all the cosplayers who are like super nice to our son yeah i'm not like get the fuck out of the way kid i'm trying to meet john cena um so the term cosplay uh was originally a japanese portmanteau of costume and play uh that was coined by a guy named nobuyukiuki Takahashi when he attended the 1984 World Science Fiction Convention in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And by that point, what they call Worldcon had so much cosplay going on that he wrote about it for a Japanese magazine and that article kind of like set fire to this cosplay concept that already existed in japan to some extent but really like really took it to the next level uh in those days like early cosplay in america uh which again i'll get into in a bit they would call them like masquerade events but the japanese interpretation of the word masquerade like translates to translates to aristocratic-like costumes, which he didn't think was appropriate because, you know, it was nerd shit from 1984.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And so he came up with the portmanteau cosplay. And since then, like, you know, it took off pretty much all over the world. The practice of cosplay, though, is attributed to a woman whose name was Myrtle Rebecca Douglas Smith Gray Nolan, also known as Myrtle R. Douglas, and also known as Morojo in the cosplay scene. How can they trace it back to one person? That's incredible. Because she went to the first Worldcon in 1939. In 1939. This is like where it sources back to. She was a wild one. Like, she was big into Esperanto, like met her boyfriend at the time through the Esperanto community. And that's where Morojo comes from is it's like the Esperanto translation of her name's initials. translation of her name's initials anyway uh her and her boyfriend dressed up for this 1939 world con in what she called futuristic costumes in one again portmanteau smashed together in one word
Starting point is 00:27:14 so like a pair of jeans uh no hoodie no it was uh they wore these outfits based on this old pulp comic uh that were like you know green spandex and like a cape and like, you know, a costume. And then her boyfriend, a guy named Forrest J. Ackerman, is quoted as saying that he thought everybody was going to wear, like, costumes to this comic convention, but they were literally the only two people who did it. So they are sources, like the Adam and Eve of this, of this, like, entire concept of dressing up for conventions.
Starting point is 00:27:46 But then in the next few WorldCons, like more people did it, more people did it. What a great outcome. I wonder if they were like embarrassed that year and were like, oh, man, okay, we're not going to do that again. And then they come back and it's like everyone's like, that was a really great idea. Just based on the pictures that were taken of morojo at that time she does not look in fucking at all she she like wrote fanzines for sci-fi in like 1940 which is fucking bonkers like obviously there were sci-fi writers that were doing shit back then but this idea of this kind of fandom that is so recognizable today existing in the 30s is profound, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, no kidding. I mean, this is like an era where people like, you know, if they were going to wear a skirt to school, it had to be like below their knees or they would get in trouble. Like this idea of just like dressing in a totally like unfamiliar outfit and going somewhere. It was the same decade as World War II. People were dressing up in cosplay, and that's so rad. In Japan, cosplay took off in the 70s at fan conventions, especially after this article from Takahashi came out. It just blew up.
Starting point is 00:28:59 In the late 90s, that's when you start to see things like cosplay cafes in Akihabara. In the late 90s, like that's when you start to see things like cosplay cafes in Akihabara. And I mean, there's more and more we could go into here in terms of like the industry of cosplay. Because there is an enormous industry for cosplay of people who make costumes and makeup and hair and all that stuff. Can I ask you, have you... Have I ever cosplayed? Yeah. No, I don't. No, I have not.
Starting point is 00:29:26 What do you think's going on there? Because it seems like you really enjoy it. Is this just not for you, personally? Honestly, do you want the real truth? It's a confidence thing, I think. Yeah. Like, I would not... First of all, whenever I'm at a convention, I'm working.
Starting point is 00:29:41 So that's kind of a... That's true, but not when you were little. Not when I was little, no. Well, when I was little no well I did when I was little the only convention I ever went to up through you know till I graduated high school was mid Ohio con and at those like I wasn't all about you know walking walking the show floor I would do a lap and buy a sword um I was mostly in it for the Pokemon card game uh tournaments oh yeah and that was all business too that was all business too you i was mostly in it for the pokemon card game uh tournaments yeah and that was all business too that was all business too you know i was in it i was a little briefcase of cards i had to win the prize money to bring back home to help support the family uh no yeah i'm i'm
Starting point is 00:30:16 i'm curious about it but like when i think about doing it myself it sends a chill up my spine like i don't i just don't think uh it's not just a fear thing. Like I don't think I'd enjoy it. Yeah. I do enjoy, like I love, I love to see it. And I think after this, specifically this convention, you know, it has got me a little bit more excited to see it because I've taken for granted seeing like, oh, well there's a, you know, a super realistic,
Starting point is 00:30:42 you know, link or whatever. Yeah. I see that and I'm like, oh'm like oh cool but now i don't know there's there's a performer in there there's somebody who worked really hard on this on this thing and you get to you get to it's very generous in a way because you get to sort of benefit from the fruits of their labor well and also how crazy is it that people like cosplay as characters that y'all created that is another big thing yeah i you know i don't take that for granted like that still blows me the fuck away every single time yeah uh and there was some stunning taz cosplay
Starting point is 00:31:12 this year um but yeah it's it's it is a it is a neat thing but i feel like it is probably not uncommon to kind of tune out a little bit when you've been to enough conventions and the people who do this i imagine go to a lot of conventions. But objectively, it's a very cool thing. And it was really fun to kind of share that with all of you guys. Yeah. For me, I was trying to be chill because I could tell that y'all, as McElroys, were more used to it than I was. So I was like, oh, yeah, no, totally.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah, okay, cool. like as macklerys were more used to it than i was so i was like oh yeah no totally that's yeah okay cool this person's dressed as a character that i know of but i was i was still just like like i had entered like another dimension of just like oh my gosh this person in the elevator that i'm with or this person in the bathroom or this person in the restaurant like oh my gosh like it was still like wild there's something kind of fun about being used to it though because like you can it's not strange to you anymore that's i guess that i guess that's the way of putting it i see a big snorlax in the same elevator as me and it's not weird and so there is a certain part of it that's just like when i am in this place at this event yeah it is a kind of other world uh than the one that i live in where i don't usually see snorla snorla sees which is the you know i saw that snorlax and i was like why is henry not losing his mind right
Starting point is 00:32:32 now and then i realized that he had seen the snorlax earlier yeah yeah so he's gotten used to it i know i'm just glad he didn't call him totoro because i know he gets those two confused a lot that would have been personally for me humiliating. Thank you so much to Bowen and Augustus for the use for a theme song Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that
Starting point is 00:32:51 in the episode description. And thank you to Maximum Fun for having us on the network. Hey, can you talk about Maximum Fun while I look something up on my phone? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Sure. Yeah, Maximum Fun has tons of great shows and they are adding new shows regularly. And I would recommend if you haven't checked it out in a while to go to MaximumFun.org. I'm sure they have something for you. Hey, we got the virtual Candlelight special coming up.
Starting point is 00:33:16 It's going to happen on December 18th at 9 p.m. Eastern time. It's a pre-taped video spectacular, sales for which benefit Harmony House, an institution in Huntington, West Virginia that goes to benefit people experiencing homelessness. I don't know why I call it an institution. It's a group that does really great work in Huntington. Tickets are on sale now for $5 with an option to give more. And you can get those tickets at bit.ly slash Candle Nights 2021. And there will be a video on demand available through january 2nd if you can't make that that date uh all the shows have done segments we did a fun cooking segment that is i really like i feel
Starting point is 00:33:52 like this should be required viewing for people that are trying to get in the holiday spirit because it is it is like a explosion it's like a gusher of holiday spirit sure it's a real gusher this one and we have a bunch of special guests that we're uh we're gonna not talk about keep it a secret keep it safe uh hey we also have the zone of adventure imbalance video series all three episodes of which are out now on our youtube channel youtube.com slash the mackroy family it's set in the balance universe we all play balance characters i still haven't watched it did you know that it's set in the balance universe we all play balance characters i still haven't watched it did you know that it's embarrassing it is it's me it's no it's fine you i know how busy you are it was dm by abria iangar who did a kick-ass job and we're really proud of it and you should watch it and also there's new merch over at mackroymerch.com that you should also go and check
Starting point is 00:34:39 out uh i think that's it huh i think that is all of it. Yes. Come to the end of the road. But I can't let go. It's unnatural. Is that what it says? Yeah. You belong to me. I think maybe to take us out, I'm still got that Seattle spirit in me.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Okay. So if we could just, Hey baby, I hear the blues. I'm calling. Sing it with me now. Toss salad and scrambled eggs. No. No, no thank you. Baby, I'll see you in a bit.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Baby, I got you, babe. You're getting better and better at that, which is uncomfortable for me. But I don't know what to do with those tostella and scrambled eggs. Can I say how proud of you and your brothers by association that nobody referenced that
Starting point is 00:35:24 when we were in Seattle. Oh, they'd fucking tear us apart. They fucking hate Frazier up there. I understand that. Fuck that guy. Thank you. Hey!

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