Wonderful! - Wonderful! 245: Ballistic Properties of a Tootsie Roll
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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy.
Hi, Rachel.
I'm Griffin McElroy.
And this is wonderful.
I'm feeling flirty this episode see this is an unfair
advantage you have why is that whenever you make some kind of content in the morning yeah you come
into the studio like super jized and i and i'm like oh um hi i i also make podcasts you know
we're recording this right after me and the bros stream some Fortnite.
And so like my situational awareness, my reflexes, my competitive instinct, honestly, are at their absolute zenith right now.
I know.
It's a weird energy to bring to a podcast with your lover.
But it could be fun, right?
You just need to you need to be able to harness it. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm going to bring this energy podcast with your lover. But it could be fun, right? You just need to, you need to be able to harness it.
Like, do you know what I mean?
Like, I'm going to bring this energy
no matter what.
I can't not put it all out there,
like on the field 100% of the time.
So I guess it's your responsibility
to harness the lightning.
I don't think, isn't it notoriously hard to do that?
To harness lightning?
Yeah.
Ben Franklin did it with a freaking key.
Okay.
Back in the caveman times.
It's a wonderful show.
We talk about things that we like, things that are good, things that we are into, things
that make us feel things for once in our lives.
Do you have one?
Do you have a small wonder?
Oh, man.
I just like the neighborly hospitality we've experienced.
Outrageous.
Like we have never lived anywhere where we have known our neighbors.
And we always took responsibility for that.
We're like, well, we're not going out and introducing ourselves.
Like we're not being friendly enough. We didn't realize there are communities where the neighbors
come to you. They come to you and they bring you cookies and baked goods. And it's good. It's great.
And like willingly give their contact information. Like here, I know I just introduced myself,
but here's how you can reach me at any time. Yeah. It's been incredible.
It's been really fun.
Our neighborhood absolutely kicks ass.
I'm loving it.
What do I got?
I don't know that I have,
I've been writing a bunch of music again for Taz
for this new season that Justin's running,
Steeplechase.
And I am exploring some new genres
and a lot of brass, a lot of brass work. And I am exploring some new genres and a lot of brass, a lot of brass work.
Uh-huh.
And I am head over heels.
I'm having so much fun with it.
How do you know, as somebody who does not compose music, I'm curious how you know when you're finished?
I mean, I've been doing it for a while.
And so for me-
It just seems like you could tinker forever.
Yeah.
It comes down to like recognizing what I'm approaching the point of like overcrowding the song.
And honestly, usually I will remove an element or two at that point and then just try to polish up what's already there so that it sounds like the best it possibly can.
polish up what's already there so that it sounds like the best it possibly can,
which was not anything I ever did until a couple of years ago, I think. I did that monthly class about music production with, I think, Andrew Huang and learned about mastering and actually
balancing out the audio for all
your different tracks and stuff like that. So I don't know, since I've learned that I kind of
have just a few core components that I know go in every song, and then I'll add a little
little splash here and there. And then I'll try and stop. But yeah, it's a it's a new it's a
totally new genre that I've not messed with before. and it's so much fun to goof around with.
And I think that season's going to start next month.
So you'll hear it sooner rather than later because we're halfway through, more than halfway through September.
Yeah, I know, right?
Wild.
You go first this week.
What do you got?
So this is something that I'm sure we have talked about
in various capacities but to my knowledge we have not done an entire segment on it okay um
and thank you to the folks that run wonderful.fyi because as of this morning it was updated thank
you all we we last week we were like what's going on then, man, like little elves just right away. Well, that's a pretty.
Okay.
Like magical.
Insulting like magical artists.
Yes.
Data artists.
So thank you for that.
Thank you so much.
It gave me confidence to talk about my topic this week, which is breakfast.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, for sure.
The meal or the genre, right?
It's a little of both, right?
Okay, okay.
Like for me, I don't eat a substantial breakfast every day.
Some days I skip it entirely.
But I will say like the weekends, I get really excited.
That's breakfast country, baby, yeah.
But I will say like the weekends, I get really excited. That's breakfast country, baby.
Yeah.
I get really excited when it's like I have time to dedicate to the art of breakfast today.
And then also the food, man.
So much of it.
There's a lot of it.
I love a bagel.
Yeah.
I also like a heavier like bacon and egg situation.
I love a farmer's breakfast.
I love like a yogurt with a granola and a cereal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That I'm into.
I've gotten really into toast.
You drug that out just long enough that I thought you were to say toes for a second.
I've gotten really into toes.
just long enough that I thought you were to say toes for a second.
I've gotten really into toes.
I mean, there was that one, like, four-month period when I was living in Chicago and was just sick to my stomach every day for some mystery reason I never solved, and I just
ate toast a lot.
And so my love affair really began there.
But I've just had so much good toast.
What are you putting on toast?
Jam.
Strawberry jam for the most part.
Or if I'm having egg, am I having meat?
I like a toast there with it too to kind of be like a little, like a barge that all the other breakfast friends can ride on.
Or like an extra utensil.
Or like an extra utensil.
Yeah.
That's fun.
That is fun.
That's just fun.
Uh-huh.
utensil yeah that's fun that is that's just fun uh-huh uh so i wanted to talk a little bit about like just kind of the whole concept of breakfast specifically in like the western sense okay uh
because as anyone who has traveled significantly will realize like people do breakfast different
ways in wildly different all over the world like For sure. Americans are pretty different, I would say, than most of the world when it comes to breakfast.
So is breakfast the most important meal of the day?
What do you think?
No.
Yeah, that's true.
It was apparently started 1960s.
There was an American nutritionist that suggested to be healthy, one should, quote, eat breakfast like a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper.
Yeah.
They say that on UID.
Oh, okay.
And have been saying it for almost a decade now.
I never heard that expression before.
I didn't know the origins of it.
I just knew that they said that nonstop.
That's funny that that's where that comes from.
nonstop. That's funny that that's where that comes from. Mostly when they've done research to figure out like how important in breakfast, the only thing they can really say is that a lot of people
that skip a meal miss out on nutrients. Are you telling me that the person who said the thing
about breakfast like a king, etc, was a nutritionist? That seems like a wild, wild statement
for somebody who is like a nutrition expert to say, right?
Well, I mean, I think the idea generally is that like your meals should be of decreasing
size as the day goes on, which is not an unusual concept.
It is to me. Dinner's great. Are you kidding me?
But eating, as you know, eating a big heavy meal before you go to sleep is not always the
best thing for your body.
No, no. I mean, it gives me the nightmares for sure.
Yeah.
But I mean, I'm not like hitting up Applebee's and getting their big skillets like every
weeknight, you know?
That is true in the sense like when I was reading about it, a lot more people are willing
to minimize breakfast than dinner.
Dinner is like where you really are.
You're like looking forward to the big,
the pomp and circumstance.
My 5 p.m. hungry,
like so far outweighs my like 10.30 a.m. hungry.
Like it is not even close.
I think it's because I know that lunch is right there.
Like I had a little breakfast this morning at like seven and it's
a good four and a half hours after that i'm pretty hungry but i also know that my friend lunch yeah
that's true my friend lunch is coming that's true uh but we're not here to talk about lunch griffin
yeah fuck lunch uh okay so so yeah basically, skip breakfast, but make sure you're getting your-
I mean, eat breakfast.
Do what you want to do.
We're not going to tell you to skip breakfast.
You hear talking about breakfast.
In the studies, the people that skip breakfast often fall short on things like folate, calcium,
iron, and then your various vitamins, A, B, C, D.
Dude, breakfast is also fiber time, baby. You're missing out on premium fiber journeys that you could be going on in the morning.
Yeah.
So that's anyone that's listened to Sawbones in particular would be familiar with Kellogg,
who started the whole idea of cereal.
And it was like basically this really ridiculous kind of, what is it, Puritan notion of like
people should be eating bland food to
help their digestion yeah to keep their thoughts away from spiritual experience yeah for sure uh
but i was interested in bacon i didn't really realize the kind of uh the marketing approach
of bacon huh yeah because you picture it as this like farm like you said like a farm breakfast like
people that were going to go like out and do work early in the morning would have these big heavy
breakfasts right uh but it was actually 1920s beech nut packing company wanted to get more
people to eat bacon uh beech nut was a producer of chewing gum peanut, Peanut Butter, and Ham. You know, your favorite pairing.
What you got in your lunch today?
Looks like Chewing Gum, Peanut Butter, and Ham.
And then the song, you know,
Chewing Gum, Peanut Butter, and Ham.
Chewing Gum, Peanut Butter, and Ham.
You put it all together and you mix it all did you forget the yeah i can't
put it all together and you mix it all up and you grab that spoon from just forget it
um so they hired a pr consultant uh who basically suggested that a heavy breakfast would be healthier because the body loses energy during the night and needs it during the day.
Okay.
They spread it out all over newspapers and everybody was like, oh, man, that makes sense to me.
So eggs and bacon it is.
Yeah.
It's also, you know, there's a focus on food that you can make quickly in the morning, which, I mean.
Bacon is not that, I don't think.
Well, you use.
If you want to do it right, you know, it takes a little bit of doing.
You can use one pan, though, right?
Like, there's not mixing bowls necessarily.
Like, you can just dump everything in the pan and cook it.
necessarily like you can just dump everything in the pan and cook it uh but so when we get to like the small breakfast we're talking industrial revolution people don't have time that's when
you start to get into your your yogurts and your granola bars and your cereals yeah in a big way
uh which is true also because you don't want a lot of dishes like if everybody's going to work
you don't want to have a lot of dishes to clean up
that's a big reason that i don't make a bigger breakfast during the week is that like i don't
want to leave all that stuff sitting and i certainly don't want to do the dishes in the
morning yeah uh so um breakfast food uh as a concept is kind of like a luxury and you see that more in the west of like the kind of the
fancy like frilly french toasts and and donuts um mostly throughout the world like you're just
eating kind of what you would eat at any other meal of the day yeah i remember that threw me
the first time i went to japan yeah it was although japan also has like or at least in in tokyo and and you know the cities
that we actually traveled to like has like a big cafe culture with like a pretty wild array of
of tall pancakes and other uh delicious baked goods that i usually avail myself of because i
don't i don't it's weird to me to not have breakfast food at breakfast time i don't know
why i can't i know really it's just like i eat breakfast at dinner time sometimes i don't, I don't, it's weird to me to not have breakfast food at breakfast time. I don't know why.
I can't, I can't really.
I know, but it's just like it's.
I eat breakfast at dinnertime sometimes.
I don't know why I'm so choosy.
Oh, for sure.
I remember when I went to Cologne, Germany, I was staying at like this hostel hotel situation.
And we came downstairs the first morning.
We had stayed the night and came downstairs and they were advertising Frosch Dick.
And I was like, what? but that means breakfast in german that was how i learned about that
about my good friend russ breakfast um yeah i don't have a whole lot more to say about breakfast
i i will just say that um i tend to prefer savory uh just generally um you know when avocado toast hit the world i
was like yes that's for me yeah uh but i will also say french toast pancake waffle i really can't
complain about a particular breakfast food of any kind i bet you could if you really thought about
it yeah but that's not what we do eggs bened Benedict is like way too. I love that. There's breakfast foods that like I cannot rectify how
shitty I feel after I eat. Well, yeah. I mean, biscuits and gravy, I love, but that's your whole
day. That is. That's a dinner food for me because then, you know, you can just sort of lay down
and you're done. You can be done. Do you know?
You can't do that at, you know, nine in the morning.
But nine o'clock at night, you just lay down and it's like, this is where I stop today.
Yeah.
The day is over.
I think it's good, too, because as I mentioned during the week, you know, I like a more elaborate
breakfast on the weekends.
And then during the week, we always have to remind ourselves, like, you know what we could have for dinner?
Breakfast.
It's like always like a novelty.
It's very exciting.
Can I steal you away?
Yes.
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I want to talk about local parades.
This past weekend, we went up to beautiful Poolsville, Maryland, where we have some friends.
It's like a 40-minute drive from the city of washington dc uh and they were having the poolsville day celebration there and we visited
some friends hung out with them and went to their parade and wild sort of after party with any number
of inflatable activities and food trucks and stuff. And it was just the best.
This parade was so well constructed.
It was like a feature film.
Like it started.
It had a narrative arc.
Yes.
It started very mildly.
Yes.
You know, and we had promised Henry lots of candy.
Sure.
I was expecting marching bands.
You know, I was expecting, you know, the things of a parade.
Because our access to parades recently recently, they've been very short.
Very short, very fly-by-night.
It's very jam-packed.
It's like here are the seven things you'll see in a parade.
They're all in a row, and now the parade's over. They had like a procession of fire vehicles that lasted maybe 10 minutes.
fire vehicles that lasted maybe 10 minutes this parade got progressively better and then finished with what i think you should i'll talk i'll talk about i've got i've got a breakdown of the
poolsville day parade because i know people are on tinder hooks okay uh did you grow up like with
with local parades yes yes i know the blues would like come out pretty hard whenever they had a
a good season right well they weren't a very like come out pretty hard whenever they had a good season, right?
Well, they weren't a very good team when I was younger.
They had incredible players but did not make it very far.
Okay.
No reason for a parade.
I'm talking specifically the parade that I grew up with was the 4th of July parade in Webster Grows, Missouri.
And this is the kind of parade where people will put their folding chair out in their spot and leave it there for 24 hours or more.
So it was the kind of thing where if the parade was on a I can't remember if it was on a Saturday or Sunday, but you put that chair out like on Friday night and there was just a respect to it.
Kind of like parking in Chicago.
Like you put that, you know, sitting situation where it's going to be and people leave it and they understand that it is Chicago. Yeah. Like you put that, you know, sitting situation where it's going
to be and people leave it and they understand that it is yours. Yeah. And I, as listeners know,
was in a marching band and did quite a bit of parade marching. Yes. I did a lot of parade
float riding for WTCR. Oh, yeah. I also worked a few parades as my bovine fursona cowabunga,
the WTCR cow mascot.
Did you have the opportunity
to throw out much candy?
Yeah, so the big one for our area
was the Ironton Memorial Day Parade.
Huntington had some parades too,
but the Ironton Memorial Day Parade
was always a big to-do.
And we would always
usually be in it with one of whatever radio station dad was working for at the time so i
did a lot of chucking chucking candy out you know what i thought a lot about because everybody in
this parade we went to was throwing out tootsie rolls and i thought like what is that and then
i thought like oh it's a softer candy ballistic properties of it's durable yeah it doesn't melt uh and if you get hit by it you're okay yeah there were some i would say
over eager athletes for the most part who really hummed some candy at us and our infant son the
street was not wide there was no not very. Not very wide. They were really, really launching them.
I am like way off my notes.
I love a big parade too.
Like I love a Rose Bowl with all the floats and shit
and a Thanksgiving Day parade
we've actually talked about on the show before.
But there is an enchanting kind of charm
to the local parade of seeing what a community thinks is noteworthy about itself
and then how it kind of features that in parade format like uh also the candy is also very good
we love getting henry involved in like community events because i think there's a lot of enrichment
that comes from that but he doesn't they're boring for the most part but when they're throwing candy at you like
it's exciting and scary and you really have to keep your keep your wits about you um so yeah
you know you get your local departments your your fire and police and i don't think i've ever seen
an amp actually there was an ambulance at the parade.
There was, yeah.
Because they had to stop and bust down an oxygen tank for somebody, which was like, I don't know, it felt staged to me, but probably not.
You know what was fascinating to me, too, is when people disrupt the flow of a parade.
Like this neighborhood was so close-knit that occasionally people would walk by
and watchers would just wander into the street and have a conversation would become parade for a
second it's like oh hey it's bill and then they'd like walk out into the parade and i was so aghast
i was like but this is a parade respect the the perimeter of the parade, please. What are you doing?
You get the whole sort of school category of teams that have had maybe a victorious season.
You get marching bands, which I will watch any marching band all day, every day. Yes, always good.
Just tell me where to go to watch the marching band and i will always be like a drill
team to a drill team absolutely uh and then you get like weird shit which is like every local
parade has to have something in it at some point that's like oh that's why is that there uh for
pools poolsville had quite a few they had a had a haunted house that had a nightmare clown
and living dolls and shit
that ran up and tried to scare the kids,
which was okay.
But then at one point,
the Batmobile came through
with Batman and Robin and Catwoman and Penguin,
and that was excellent.
And then for whatever reason,
I think the very last thing in the parade
was two adult men in souped up go-karts dressed as mario and luigi who were like tokyo drifting
like pretty close to our children like pretty fast and pretty close to the children and um i got a
great video of like mario just like stunting on henry and henry turns and looks at me and goes
mamma mia oh i gotta see that video i was chasing gust down at that point in the parade
oh his choice um yeah it makes me wonder i don't really know what is involved in getting
a position in the parade um because i mean one i haven't been a a watcher for most of them i was
in most of them as a member of the band which was just kind of like you didn't have a jockey for position.
Yeah.
But it seems like a lot of people, like, they've got their classic car and they just roll up and say, hey, I would like to be in the parade.
Look at my car.
It's so old.
I don't really understand how that works.
I don't either.
I mean, I would be remiss if I didn't mention the parade that we threw in Huntington, West Virginia for spiders for the McEwan Band TV show.
Oh, yeah.
How did that work?
I guess you didn't have to do it.
We had producers on the TV show who figured it out.
Yeah.
I mean, we've been to some great – I've been to a lot of great parades in my life.
One time we were in New York in June and just like walked outside and the pride parade was like
right outside and we're like holy shit incredible we just like hung out for a couple hours and and
watched the pride parade like danced with the kids and like it was the best yeah i think that's a big
like that's more of an iconic sort of thing than than the type of local parade that i'm describing
i think that i just think there's something so delightful about them.
I think there's something so neat about a community kind of like putting parts of itself
up on a pedestal like that and seeing like how the people who are now sort of foisted
into the spotlight like deal with this extremely short lived fame.
Because I'll tell you, being like up in the tcr
truck and like chucking candy and waving and smiling you have to be on for like yeah the
whole parade yeah you get tired it's exhausting by the end of it i bet do you i was really
interested too in how people portion candy uh oh sure Because we were at a point in the route that I think was kind of in the middle.
I don't know.
Do you have a sense of where we were?
Maybe we were towards the end.
I have no idea.
Anyway, it was interesting to see like how people figured out how they were going to
make their candy last.
And there was definitely a lot of stingy, stingy Scrooges who walked around with a bucket and said,
pick one, which is a very difficult concept
for a young child.
Anyway, that's local parades.
I love them.
Yeah.
Go to a local parade.
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so i'm i can only describe it as like eggs hungry right now because of you i'm sorry
it's a it's i don't know that i've ever been eggs hungry like this. We do have some eggs. Oh, yeah.
We do now.
So I go down there like Gaston.
Big strong arms.
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