Wonderful! - Wonderful! 295: Hide Your Vape, Here Comes Street Rachel

Episode Date: September 27, 2023

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Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. Hi, this is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. This is a show where we talk about things you like that's good that we like them and we're into. It's a podcast by two marrieds like yeah yeah yeah yeah um i wanted to ask you yeah do you have any clue as to what our son is going to be for halloween this year wow um we've kicked around a few ideas i brought up a few things with him but he doesn't seem committed to anything yet he doesn't which is surprising because it's almost the end of september i feel like typically mid-july we're already you know emailing with spirit halloween last year he was sonic right last year he was uh sonic the hedgehog

yeah yeah from the video game series sonic the hedge. And the books, the novelizations of Sonic the Hedgehog. We've had, you know, some classic stuff from him. I feel like this year we've talked a lot about Ash Ketchum, who he calls Ash Ketchums, which is great. It reminds me of the Key and Peele sketch. Does he know that you have also been Ash Ketchum for Halloween? No, I did. I was, wasn't I't and in fact i was pikachu and i was pregnant with him that's right and people brought up a lot of sort of confusing imagery that we had maybe introduced into the

ash ketchum's pikachus i bet pregnant pikachu oh yeah we'll get you some stuff on the internet. Pikachu will, you know, buy a carton of milk at the grocery store. I bet you there's lots of results for that one. I bet you Ask Jeeves is like, oh, this again, huh? No problem. I have a button, actually. I have a macro set up. The thing we have noticed that's really kind of frustrating about the world of Pokemon, at least what we can access here in the Western part of the world,

is that a lot of it is for adults. Yeah. And it is difficult to find clothing items and costumes. So frustrating. That fit a child. Yeah. Henry really wanted a Pokemon jacket. And I was like, no problem.

Nintendo, you got me? And Nintendo was like, I got you. You specifically. What about my little, my small, wiry son? And they're like, ooh, we don't know about that. Can he wear a big shirt like pajamas? Anyway, thanks for nothing. We got there, though.

We did get Henry a Pokemon jacket that he loves and a pair of Pikachu headphones headphones and together when we had ordered them and he knew they were coming at the end of the week he was like i can't wait to get my hands on that pokemon drip and yeah that made me feel so proud yeah to have a son like him yeah the other day he i believe he was wearing a few pieces of Sonic outfit. Yeah. Like a hoodie and a shirt or something. And he did refer to it as his drip. I love this. I didn't teach him that.

That's great. Of course I didn't. I know you didn't. So that's great. No, I don't know that I've ever heard you. Refer to drip? Yeah, an outfit choice as your drip. No, no.

I mean, if anything for me, it's more like droop. Am I right? You have a small on her. Hey, you got any small on hers? I think I can address this here. Okay. And that is my enthusiasm for the Golden Bachelor, which is coming very, very soon. Yeah. I've got a lot of fingers crossed for this one um a lot of what i have found to be challenging about the franchise

i am i am hopeful will not be present in the golden bachelor yes and i can return to a franchise that once brought me so much joy i think maybe that's tonight actually, or maybe it was last night. Yeah. Yeah. I am cautiously optimistic. I'm not optimistic. I don't think it'll be very good, but I'll probably,

we'll watch it. We have dipped into, let's say a bit of senior romantic programming this year between Love Village and Love After Divorce. We mentioned this last week, I think. I don't know that we did in the context of, I mean, we talked about our dalliance with Korean reality television programming. Love Village, I believe, was a Japanese show. um but it it is a different spice when the people are you know a older set than you get the the bachelor franchise typically so yeah i'll be curious to see i mean these people they got their priorities are different they're at a different place in their lives hopefully they

can handle their liquor pretty well at this point. You would hope so, yeah. I don't know. We'll see. You know how sometimes on Bachelor and Bachelorette, they'll bring out like an old person from the limo and then another young person will come out and be like, I got you. This is my grandma.

I wonder if we'll do that in reverse. We're just like. Oh, that's fun. A young woman will get out. No, I feel like if a young woman walked into the house that the golden bachelor lived in she would be she would be destroyed summarily by everybody else that is there that would not go down smooth yeah i mean for those of you that enjoyed when we did rose buddy for a long time we also enjoyed it uh and i i do yearn for a time when i can talk about

a reality show similar to that you know and and feel okay about it oh i'll talk about love after divorce all day long we just polished that bad boy off uh last night season finale dropped on sunday i'll go and make that my small wonder here we go back door. It turned out pretty good, I think. It certainly, the pace was a bit slow for my case. Well, it's not finished yet.

It's not finished, is it? Yeah. Oh my, yeah, so we got a surprise. We don't even know. A special surprise.

Yeah, we are now caught up so that we are not able to access the newest episodes yet. We have to wait. We're watching it weekly every Sunday when new episodes drop.

We made the assumption, like a lot of people would, I think think that the show ends after their exciting week in cancun but there seems to be the suggestion that they will live together and we will watch that too which is great that show if you didn't hear us talk about it the first time a bunch of divorcees live together in a house and go on dates and some of them fall in love we got a few successful pairings out of the set and they very slowly intentionally reveal information which is cool so like at a certain point the show runners will decide that they can tell each other what their age is or how many kids they have which is a big one which allows you to play along at home yeah and think like all right i going to guess that this person.

Really was fine because we were quite wrong. We were always wrong pretty much. Pretty much every single point of data. Like, oh, that guy's 27. I'm 46. What the fuck? Yeah. That person's got maybe no kids.

Although I think. Three kids. Oh, shit. I think we were pretty right on who had kids, though. I don't think so, man. There were some surprises in there. We're not going to spoil it for the folks at home. But yeah, I am enjoying that show.

I can't wait to watch the people be taken out is not present in a lot of the other reality shows we've been watching recently is that kind of like producer manipulation. And I am hoping that that happens less with these people on this show. But I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, reality TV. It's popping. You go first this week. Yeah.

Survivor also starts back up this week. You know. I follow a lot of Survivor contestants on Instagram, and it's just so exciting to watch everybody abuzz. Abuzz with excitement. Do we know, are there any new gimmicks or twists? They all get knives. Yeah, I'd watch that. Yeah.

Also, Jeff has started to say guys again. That is a very specific joke. That the survivor head, I know there's probably lots of survivor heads out there. That's nice. Oh, I enjoyed that. Thank you. Thanks, that's a good joke.

What's on the plate today i'm hungry i wanted to talk this week about leggings leggings i have no feelings about this you are one of the few people that can say that okay uh this is this is um let me hmm Few places I can start. One thing I will say is that obviously during the pandemic when I didn't have to go in front of people very often, I chose comfort. And often that meant I chose leggings. Okay. And now it is difficult to choose anything else. Are you describing the ensemble you're wearing right now as that, is that leggings?

Yes. I guess I don't know what the difference is between leggings and tighter pants. When we were kids, they were called stretch pants. Does this seem familiar to you? Or is this maybe a regional thing? I mean, when I was a kid, most of the pants I wore did stretch. And so... Well, there's sweatpants, which are looser.

And then there's a legging, which tends to cling more. Yeah, it's the cling I think that does it for me or rather doesn't do it for me on me, does do it for me on you. Thank you. You're welcome. The other thing I will say is that now that I have actually started

to participate in fitness, I appreciate the utility of leggings. Oh, I bet. In that I am able to move my body in a lot of ways. Yeah. And also for a curvier woman, the thigh rub is non-existent with the leggings. Interesting.

I don't think about that. I didn't think about that either. One time when I went to the gym, I wore just regular shorts and I got, not regular, like a street short. Yeah. regular shorts and i got not regular like like a like a street short yeah rachel rolled up in her street short and her dad what's up you guys use the internet i'm picturing like those like like bugs bunny taz graphics with like the hats on backwards

and their street short oh shit hide your vape here comes street rachel no i'm talking about an athletic short but like one that like doesn't provide any kind of like thigh protection and when you're running like you do get you do get a little chafing yeah you know and so anyway so the legging not just comfortable protects you while you're running does sound valuable i that is an issue for me. Why exercise is like down there. It's a mess. You were talking about the lining and how the lining is useful to you.

It's a similar thing. I like the support I receive from a street short lining. Just to sort of like contain the zone so I can focus on my rowing and what have you yeah yeah um so leggings i probably should have realized that if i was going to talk about an article of women's clothing i was going to end up talking about how people had opinions about it okay um there was a lot like 2010s i feel like is when people started really talking about leggings and

whether or not it was acceptable as fashion to wear like out in the yeah yeah there's this whole like i don't know it's interesting because i find myself like feeling insecure about it too of this idea of whether you can wear athleisure in the world and it's acceptable if you are not participating in fitness and then like reading this article so vox did this article in 2019 called a decade of leggings controversy explained oh that's great uh service journalism that's inspiring where they talk a lot about like just the general policing of women's bodies and how this kind of represents that where people are suddenly very obsessed about whether or not leggings are appropriate. And then you kind of realize like why is this even a topic? I feel like I remember this conversation taking place sometimes before COVID and then when COVID happened and nobody saw anybody for two years,

nobody gave a shit anymore. That's very true. And a lot of it too, is just kind of the advances in leggings. I read about kind of in like the 2010 period when you started seeing like leggings, like three for $10 at like a wet seal or a Forever 21. They're very cheaply made.

And it was, it was like you would stretch them and you could basically see through them. And so there was a lot of like concern among people about like whether or not girls should be able to wear them to school because they're stretchy and you can see stuff, little iotas of skin and, you know, but the, like the But the dawn of leggings, from what I can tell, are you buckled in for this?

I'm just imagining one ape strangling another ape with a pair of leggings and then all the other apes jumping up and down in a primal celebration. and like a primal celebration? There is like a world of fashion that I am obviously very disconnected from. And so whenever you talk about a fashion trend, there's always people that can like pinpoint it. Okay. Apparently there was a Vogue photo shoot of Edie Sedgwick, who was like one of Andy Warhol's big models

and was an actress. And she did a photo shoot in leggings. I feel like I know this photo shoot. Really? Yeah. I feel like if I conjure an image of Edie Sedgwick in my head, there's just one, and it's this photo shoot. It is somewhat iconic. And then the 70s, it was like Olivia Newton-John in Grease.

Sure. The 80s, Olivia Newton-John again. In Greece too. Well, in a fitness context too. Yeah, I don't think actually she was in Greece too. And then the phase I mentioned where all of a sudden it was like you could get leggings super cheap at like mall stores and whatever. And then, of course, athleisure blew up. And then like every celebrity had their own line.

Like Kate Hudson obviously has Fabletics. Obviously. Obviously. athleisure blew up uh and then like every celebrity had their own line like kate hudson obviously has fabletics and then obviously obviously everyone knows this if you had asked me griffin what is kate hudson's athleisure brand call i would of course say fab letics uh beyonce i guess had an activewear line in 2016 reebok had gg hadid wait beyonce had a fitnesswear line she may still I don't know I was gonna say it doesn't seem like Beyonce has failed projects that are out there um there's any number of celebrities that you know have have their own type of legging Selena Gomez was in there um just a lot of people and it became just a really kind of like a fashionable thing

like a trend you have a sweater line uh and then yeah i mean throughout all of this people are like just issuing their concerns about leggings uh a lot of them as i mentioned was in schools sure um you know any kind of like uh dress code you know is usually designed in a way to isolate some some group of people right uh and and it but what is awkward and terrible is when these people are called to defend their decisions and you realize just how like poorly constructed they are yeah so for example in 2013 a california junior high principal called an assembly of 450 girls between the ages of 12 and 14 and stressed to them they were not allowed to wear leggings without a dress or skirt over them she later told abc news when girls bend in leggings the thread spread and that's really when it becomes a problem that's so clinical

just to see people like that's where the issue lies uh there's another example um a republican state representative from montana made headlines when he said that yoga pants should be illegal in public okay and attempted to redo his state's indecent exposure laws to prohibit any clothing that quote gives the appearance or stimulates butts genitals pelvic areas or women's nipples i mean i'll decide yeah what stimulates my butt what stimulates my hey guess what ginkgo genes stimulate my butt got you loophole congressman uh 2017 there's the big story united airlines you you probably remember this united airlines barred two young girls from getting onto the airplane because they were wearing leggings jesus christ which is supposedly in

violation of a dress code that the airline wrote specifically for its employees and their children. And it's their children? Yeah, so that was the thing. Why did United Airlines get to decide what? These two people, I guess, were children of employees. And when they fly for free, they have to like wear a certain.

What a creepy hill to die on, United. I know, I know. know i know and then of course like delta came out like we don't care about like you know uh yeah and then then like a lot of like college like you know there's always been this issue about like college kids dressed too slouchy when they go to class and we need to be training them to be professionals in the world and they should whoever gives it no one gives a shit i don't know you remember like i remember those people that actually came to class real dressed up and it was like you had this impression that they were taking it super seriously but then you remember like oh wait none of that actually impacts your ability like it isn't like also literally no one at marshall like literally i never saw anyone at marshall like

the only people who did were like uh you always knew in the journalism school at marshall who was about to anchor mu report which was our like tv like local tv news thing because they would come dressed up and that was it that was it oh and was a big, so I went to Mizzou and there's a big Greek life community. And if I remember correctly, I feel like that was a thing. Yeah. On like a certain day of the week or something, they were supposed to wear ties.

I don't remember. Anyway, it's like a thing, but it's not common. No. So I will just end by saying, so this article in Vox talks about somebody from the Atlantic, Derek Thompson, spoke to University of Nevada fashion historian Deirdre Clemente, who told him that leggings as pants are not just about the rise of synthetic fibers or the trend of performative wellness culture, but a century-long journey towards a culture of casual. 100 years ago, you would have day clothes for the street, dinner clothes for the restaurant, theater clothes and so many genres of dress.

These barriers have come down. Athleisure is the ultimate breaking down of the barriers. Uh-oh. I don't have most of those. No, but I like thinking about it that way, of like this is an evolution. Like this. No, but I like it. I like thinking about it that way of like, this is an evolution. Like this is a, like, like I mentioned, like a utility of like, we don't need to have specific clothes for particular events in our lives, you know, and that if you are comfortable

and if you feel good about the way you look like that should be acceptable in any environment. I love that this conversation is taking place at the u.s house of representatives right now as well i don't know if you have followed the the news but they have adopted a a more casual dress no i didn't know that yeah like this this sesh um it seems so antiquated to me and it's i mean it's definitely there's like there's a class thing there's a race thing there's a lot of complications to this like gender as i mentioned uh but it's just just to be having these conversations to be so advanced in so many areas and to still be like is it okay if women wear this kind of pants yeah it's just it's wild. Anyway, super comfortable. I like them. I find them

useful. I really never want to wear anything else. Yeah. I have tried wearing jeans for an entire day. I can't do it anymore. No. It hurts the flesh. I will take a jean. I will bring it into the world as soon as I return. I will take off. Well, and if it gets wet, forget about it.

It was raining this morning. My jeans got a little bit wet i'm still wearing them and it sucks and it has sucked the whole day yeah and i should just go put some leggings on you should i would i would love to see you in some leggings i mean i have some sleep pants that are clingy clingy yeah and they're pretty good get a lot of compliments from i guess just you. Can I steal you away? Yeah.

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No, I'm going to talk about keepy yuppie. Oh! When we are trying to get our two children who have a four-year age gap between them to be active and play together when it is raining outside. Yes, this weekend was a real challenge. It was a real challenge, very rainy through the whole weekend. We did some indoor stuff, and that was fine, but we had long stretches. We were just at home trying to get them to be active and entertain each other and play with each other.

And if you got a balloon and a big enough open space, baby, here you got keepy-uppy possibilities. Can I ask, did you call it or hear it called that before we saw Bluey? Yes. Really? Yes. So in my house, in my experience, we worship the Lord and I've only ever played with a balloon. If you Google Keepy Uppy, you will, of course, get that one episode of Bluey that I believe was like the third episode ever of Bluey was them playing Keepy Uppy. There's also a Keepy Uppy Bluey board game, which is a lot of words to have to say back to back like that.

Of course, I have played this game. I'm aware of this game i love this game i don't know that we called it anything just balloons balloons let's hit a balloon around yeah um well if you google keep yuppie you find bluey and then you find a bunch of results about soccer or football, if you will. Because keepy-uppy, I guess, is a term more commonly used to refer to juggling a soccer ball with just your feet and shoulders and head and chest and legs, anything but the hands. When we play keepy-uppy balloon style with children,

hands is acceptable. Yeah. No, I'm just thinking about hacky-sack. Now, hacky-s sack is also a part of this keep you up each tradition i would count hacky sack as keep you up it's interesting how uh how i feel comfortable just calling that hacky sack but i wouldn't ever just say like balloon yeah do you want to do you want to play balloon with me? That's interesting. Do you want to play balloon with me? Would have been a really strong intro for when we met.

I feel like if at the concert we met at, you were like, Hey, do you want to balloon with me? I would have definitely said yes. I've been down for sure. I, I like soccer ball.

It seems really hard. Straight up. That seems too hard for me. I like balloon keepy-uppy because you can play with kids and it's accessible. I feel like if you had a room full of children, like at a birthday party or something, and they were all bored and you just tossed a balloon in there and you were just like keepy-uppy, you could run away. Yeah. And just be good for like a half hour at least. Yeah, no.

In that moment when they were playing with the balloon, I thought, we even buy toys why do we buy toys why do we do anything why don't we just have a house full of bullets because they get so into it all of a sudden not letting this balloon touch the ground becomes the world i know we really had to talk henry down for a while because he would get very frustrated with gus because gus didn't understand the rules and then the balloon would fall and henry would be outraged and be like it you know it's gonna be okay yeah he's chill about it now he has also gus has gotten better and gus has also gotten very intense about this and i will say every other thing else on earth um the soccer ball version of keepy uppie has a lot of world records associated with them that i'm going to tell you about because they're absolutely wild uh for soccer keepy uppie the player can use feet legs chest shoulders and head uh the official

record for the longest someone kept can i guess keepy uppie can i guess let me tell you is by victor erickson who just won the record just earlier this year, June 2023. How long did he keep a soccer ball off the ground? Not touches? You said 2023. Like, I would be like, okay, well, historically. No, I just wanted to impress upon you that this is hot off the presses. This is very recent. I'm not talking about number of touches.

The duration. The duration. I mean, touches would be impossible for me to guess. I have no idea on that. But I'm going to say duration. I'm going to say seven hours hours 28 fucking hours whoa erickson did that this past summer for 28 hours he beat the previous record by eight and a half fucking hours that's so impressive victor you know what i'm gonna ask right what's that how did he how did he poop poop and pee yeah probably just didn't or he did

and it was one of the two it was bad he was just like everyone please leave the room honor system you can hear me you can continue to hear me it's just i don't want you to see what happens next or diaper or diaper but even diaper like you're doing some stuff in there while keeping a soccer ball up off the ground that I do not think would be helpful I don't want to think about that anymore thank you so much I mean I'm already there you're already right there another fun wild record in Augustust 2016 abraham muñoz uh ran the entire 26 mile mexico city marathon in five hours 41 minutes and 52 seconds which is probably faster than i could do it while not playing keepy uppie but what abraham did was play keepy uppie and keep a ball off the ground for all 26 miles of it which boggles the mind um or other people in that race with them and like how

confusing well and like how would you control because i imagine people like aren't paying attention and they're like running right next to you question and you'd have to be like on your left on your left i'm keeping a soccer ball off the ground he didn't let the ball hit the ground for all 26 miles wild not the longest distance covered. In January 2010, Dan Magnus was playing Kipiopi. He played Kipiopi for 30 miles, visiting the stadiums of every Premier League team in London in the process, just in a circuit. That's so long a distance to ambulate, let alone kick a soccer ball around. In 2020, Imogene Papworth Heidel performed 1,123,586 touches over 195 days to raise money for charity. Obviously not in one long stretch, but still that's a tremendous number of times to make a soccer ball hit your body.

So there's obviously a big connection to hacky sack here, which could be played communally, albeit with a much, much smaller ball. Interestingly enough, keepy-uppy has historical roots. In Japan, during the Heian period, court nobles and other members of the aristocratic class played a game called kamari, which is basically hacky sack, like team keepy-uppy, where you only use your feet to juggle a ball, keep a ball in the air. The ball is like soccer ball sized, but it's hacky sack sort of consistency, like it's full of barley. I imagine it's quite a heavy ball, but they kick it around and it was considered a very fancy and dignified game that was in fashion for like a wicked long time, really until sumo wrestling became more popular in the Sengoku period.

In the 14th century, Kimari was like codified into an art form called Kimarito, which was taught to like the aristocratic class alongside poetry and like tea ceremonies huh so it was like expected for you to be very good at hacky sack if you belong to a certain class uh during that period of time can i ask you have you ever been in a situation where you have been asked to hacky sack of course what is that experience like for you i kick it in the air once and i'm like hey i'm

pretty good at this and then my second kick makes it go in some wild direction and i'm like i can save this and then i don't save it i think i have never been asked to hacky sack you've never like been walking down the quad and like a ball a wayward ball leaves its little druid circle i have i i have watched hacky sack i have tried to hacky sack on my own, uh, in the privacy of, you know, my own space. I don't know that I've ever been in a circle and been like,

all right, we're doing this. I think I have avoided it my whole life. It was a, uh, reward. You could exchange tickets for at the pub, which was our local arcade.

And I would get a hacky sack quite often. Cause there's only like 200 tickets. You know, I was always fucking rolling and I'm, and then I would go out with my group of theater friends and be like hey guys look what i got hacky sack and then i would kick it to someone and it would like hit them in the thigh and then they'd be like we're done and that was pretty much the extent that was the thing is that i i always felt like if it's kind of like slacklining in that you see people do it and they seem pretty good at it. And then there's there's nowhere for a beginner like me to jump in.

You know, that's not true. I bet there's you bet you could slackline. No problem. Oh, yeah. I think you'd be good at it. You can still watch people play Kimari today because during some festivals in the Kansai region, folks get dressed up in costumes, like resembling Heyen period aristocrats, uh, and they play Kamari at Shinto shrines,

uh, and folks gather around to watch them. And it basically just looks like a bunch of fancy bros kicking a big hacky sack around. And it kind of kicks ass to see. Yeah. I'm curious about that. Uh,

there's, I watched some YouTube videos of it and it kind of kicks ass to see. Yeah. I'm curious about that. Uh, there's, I watched some YouTube videos of it and it's delightful to watch people in like really ornate regalia playing hacky. It's very, very good. Uh, it's just, it's fun to kick a ball around to people.

It's fun to keep a balloon off the ground with children and have them hit it back to you in turn. And I just love love i love how many cultures across human civilizations have realized that it is what i love about like games particularly sort of folk games which i guess you could lump this into that category of just like independently so many people realize like hey it's actually pretty fun to do this thing yeah it just has all these different forms across you know all all of civilization we thought for sure because the the two things that are able to

unite our our children a very differing age is the balloon yeah and also the trampoline so we thought we'll bring a balloon out to the trampoline and it floated away so many times. Just constantly. Hey, you want to know what our friends at home are talking about? Yes. Here's a message from Alex who says,

bouldering is my new favorite sport to watch. It's athleticism meets puzzles multiplied by the tension of plummeting back to earth at any moment. Plus, all the competitions

are free on YouTube. I actually have a couple of friends who are like very into bouldering and it is a wild scene. Yeah. It is a wild scene like very into bouldering and it's it is a wild scene it is a wild scene to see people like put a rock on the ground the size of a paperweight and then they're like check this shit out and then they just like go up on it on like four fingers to just showcase their tremendous yeah i remember when when we were in Austin, there was like a rock climbing gym

and then like a bouldering gym. And it was like very clear, these are different skills, these are different communities with like different challenges. And it's kind of fascinating me to think about, like these seem like they'd be the same thing, but they are very much not.

I also don't know anyone who's kinda into bouldering. It's true, It's true. Seems like an all or nothing sort of sport, which I guess, you know, I watched Free Solo. I get it. Yeah, right? I mean, you know, just in the same way that I'd be good at slacklining, you'd probably be good at bouldering. I mean, we did go to that. I mean, we went to a rock climbing place that was mostly for kids, but i did pretty good that it uh mia says my small

wonder is the big brother season 25 it's been a chaotic wilding season uh wilding season with great players and a guest player sari fields from survivor it's been a great way to get through my year and i've been sharing it with my partner yeah your parents are very big they do and my my dad did make a point to tell me that sari was on it all right which like if anything was gonna entice me that would be it yeah uh but no we still haven't watched it not i think it's i i worry that if we put one more big reality franchise on our plate the whole thing's gonna fucking topple over true um did love sari in traitors can't wait for season two yeah it's gonna be hot shit

who did you tell me was on it they just announced the cast for Traders season 2 oh Sandra oh yeah is gonna be on it

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