Wonderful! - Wonderful! 339: A Meditative Grappling

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Rachel's favorite official Olympic poet! Griffin's favorite ringtone tune!Music: “Money Won’t Pay” by bo en and Augustus – https://open.spotify.com/album/7n6zRzTrGPIHt0kRvmWoyaWorld Central Ki...tchen: https://wck.org/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Rachel McElroy. What's up? This is Griffin McElroy. And this is wonderful. What's up, punks? This is Griffin McElroy and this is Rachel McElroy. And this is wonderful. What's up, punks? This is Griffin McElroy, and this is Rachel McElroy with the podcast Wonderful. Here to talk to you about things we like that's good that we're into.
Starting point is 00:00:31 And this is a tough one. I am about to leave my lover's side. In like an hour, I'm leaving for the airport. You act as if this is not something that happens multiple times a month now. Yeah, like twice a month it started to be about that I leave my lover's side. I hate it every time.
Starting point is 00:00:49 But we usually spend the last hour of our time together before I travel in a sort of deep embrace. Yeah, sort of deep. Sort of deep embrace, a meditative grappling that happens where we affirm each other. We do not kiss on the mouth. These are all rules I didn't know we had. That would explain why you have transgressed upon them so many times.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm always kissing you on the mouth. Do you now think it is less weird when we're in our deep final hour lovers embrace and you try to smooch me and I'm like, sorry, babe, I can't. I can't do that. I can't go to the airport with your smooches still on my collar.
Starting point is 00:01:31 What we feel is deeper than kisses. What do you think about that? Oh, are you writing a song right now? Deeper than kisses. As I am happy to make it real. That is a good song though. I remember I heard that song, is I am happy to make it real. That is a good song though. I remember I heard that song, More Than Words by Xtreme,
Starting point is 00:01:50 before I knew the name of the band or what they looked like. So I like heard that song and it's saying I love you. And I was like, I know exactly what these dudes look like and what their vibe is. And then I saw the music video and was like, I was. I don't know that I've seen the video. Oh shit, don't look it up.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It'll be my next wonderful segment. Are they as extreme as they? I won't tell you anything. This is a perfect wonderful segment. And I'm definitely going to, I never do this teaser, but I think if I have not done extremes more than words yet, I'm definitely gonna bring it next week, because it's wild.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I'm picturing probably something similar to what you were picturing, which is just like two dudes sitting on two chairs, just like nobody else is around, maybe there's like a lit candle and they're just. Okay, so you've seen the music video then. Oh really? No, that's just what I was guessing.
Starting point is 00:02:43 What is extreme about that? What is wild about it? It's just their vibe, just their vibe. I don't think this song is like the rest of their songs. I think that this was back in the era where you could just do, no, we're talking so much about it. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:02:58 People are gonna be like, haven't they done this before? And it's like, no, they set it up in the previous week. I'm just so curious. You really are. I'm curious if you have any small wonders. Oh man. I will say, I don't know if this is common. Since we have moved here to DC,
Starting point is 00:03:14 our school district uses this site where you just order everything you need for your classroom and they put it in a box and they mail it to you. So tight. And I don't know if I'm getting the best deal. I'm probably not, but what is happening is that there's just a list of everything you need and the, and then they mail it to you and then you're done shopping. It's not one of those school supply lists where you have to go to like three
Starting point is 00:03:38 different stores and you have to find the specific kind of folder. Like we still go, we get the big stuff. We get that custom backpack. We get that custom munchbox. But you know how they need hand sanitizer. The boring shit, like Kleenex. Paper towels, which is freaking sad that I have to supply paper towels for my child's classroom.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That come from somewhere. But yeah, all that stuff that you're supposed to give to your teacher because nobody else is. Yeah. It all comes in one box and I don't have to do anything about it and I love that. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I have been playing a game No Man's Sky and I've talked about it a lot on Besties so I'm not gonna talk a lot about it here. But something happened which is that Gus climbed up in my lap while I was playing the game on Steam Deck and he wanted to see what was going on because he's a little kid, he likes rocket ships and stuff. This is a big open world space exploration game
Starting point is 00:04:24 that's all it's about is exploring this vast, randomly generated galaxy and like, you know, it's landing on planets and checking out what kind of animals are there. Anyway, he told me to land on this planet. We found this giant green teddy bear looking alien that we then adopted. His name is Chromo.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And so now like if Gus sees me playing the Steam Deck. That's why Henry kept talking about Chromos. Yes, that's why if I'm playing my Steam Deck and Gus sees me, he'll like run at me and be like, where's Crumble? He calls him Crumble. And so he wants to run around all these alien worlds with Crumble.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I had a day where for like 20 minutes, Gus was sitting on one side of me, Henry was sitting on the other side of me, and I was just playing No Man's Sky, and they were watching me, telling me where to fly to, and trying to find other types of cute aliens. It was a really fun, really fun time. I wanna make clear to our listeners
Starting point is 00:05:14 that Griffin is not domineering about video games. He is not like, this is a family tradition, and you must follow in my footsteps and play this game. I think we've covered on this podcast, maybe exclusively in the Max Fun Drive bonus episodes, your dalliance with all video games. I'm open to it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But it is not my lifestyle. And it, I would say, is a big part of yours. But our children are free to practice as they like. Sure. And they just seem to have a predilection for it. I get that stuff from Henry a lot. Henry is a capital G gamer.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And identifies as such. And identifies as such. Gus, not so sure about it, he's a little guy, so it's hard to tell. Does like screens and games. Does like screens and games. I guess that's really kind of all you need. Anyway, it was just a lovely little moment.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Yeah, it's nice. The games I play with them are usually pretty low intensity. And so it's fun. I should hope so. Playing a game that like, I don't know, I play all the time now and being able to share like that gaming experience with them is very cool. You go first this week and I cannot wait to hear
Starting point is 00:06:20 what you've prepared for me, my love. Thinking about it, you want laptop or phone? How beefy are these notes? Well, I started doing this thing. I cannot wait to hear what you've prepared for me, my love. Thinking about it, you want laptop or phone? How beefy are these notes? Well, I started doing this thing. I used to just to show you my process. Okay. I feel like I got a pretty good look at your process
Starting point is 00:06:34 when you did the whole segment on when your partner takes a picture of you. I got to watch your process in real time like jazz. This is a more typical process for me in which I just find a bunch of articles, cut and paste what I like, and then kind of go through and make it one document. And then it's kind of a nightmare when I have to present it
Starting point is 00:06:54 because I have to like speed read and try and find the thing about the paragraph that I wanted. But this time I was like, you know, I'm just gonna highlight some key points. Cool, thanks for taking us so deep inside the bit. I do appreciate it. It's nice to know your process. So all that to say, I won't necessarily need my laptop
Starting point is 00:07:09 because I have pre-highlighted the points and I can use my phone. Incredible. All of that was not necessary for you to know. Okay. What is necessary for you to know is that we are taking a trip to the poetry corner. Oh, baby. It's been a while. I hear the blues are calling.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Toss salad and scrambled eggs. Sometimes you change it so it's more poetry. Yeah, that was one of those. Did you like it? Well, no, but you take out like scrambled eggs. I said scrambled eggs, I just said it like scrambled eggs. No, but you would say like scrambled rhyme. Oh, yeah, I didn't do that this time.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I hear the verse call. Yeah, I didn't do that one this time. Okay, well. It was a poem. Most poems don't usually have to have like, and this is a poem in it. You know what I mean? I'm sorry to our listeners for the rocky landing
Starting point is 00:07:54 into the poetry corner. Has there ever been a smooth one? Sometimes I feel like you're really on your game. Okay, but this is not one of them. Excellent. The poet I am going to talk about I do not expect you to know about. It is Caroline one of them. Excellent. The poet I am going to talk about, I do not expect you to know about, it is Caroline Bird.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Nope. She is a- I shouldn't say nope there, it sounds like I'm denying Caroline Bird's existence. It does sound like a poet though, right? Like don't you buy that as a poet? Can I say every poet you've brought to the show sounds like a poet-ass name.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I don't know what a non-poet name is like. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. It's like Stuart Jenkins. I feel like I brought Carl Phillips, which doesn't necessarily sound like a poet. I don't know, Carl. It's a beautiful name.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Caroline Byrd is a poet living in London. She grew up in Leeds before moving there and she had her first book of poetry published when she was 15 years old. Yo. Isn't that crazy? I wish I could have gotten some of my 15 year old poetry published.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I know. Why doesn't she look at me? It would just be dashboard confessional lyrics that I have not cited properly. Yeah, good point. I know, I don't think I did anything that I would wanna share with anybody at the age of 15. Yeah, good point. I know, I don't think I did anything that I would wanna share with anybody at the age of 15. No, God no.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I did, I will say in high school, I did publish some of my poems in our high school literary magazine, but I felt safe because literally every other poem was like mine. Like I'm sad and lonely, and the petals on the rose fall at my feet. That's good sharing. That's every high school poem.
Starting point is 00:09:26 So her interest in poetry, so she started to become interested in it around age 13, 11 to 13, and she took a course at 13 and got really excited about it because she's like in a room full of other kids her age, everybody's like into poetry, it seems like a thing that people like.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And she was talking to her instructor about how she writes more than she reads. And she's like, oh, no, no, no, you have to read a lot more than you write. And so she said that she went to Borders and just bought a bunch of poetry books and just picked the ones with like interesting titles like Howl by Allen Ginsberg. Hey, yeah, great choice. And then she started submitting her
Starting point is 00:10:12 work. There's this thing, I don't know if you're familiar with it, called the writer's handbook. Yeah, sure. Yeah, they have one for poetry. And it's just a list of all the poetry magazines and like a little bit of information and then how to submit. And so she just sent out a whole bunch of stuff and she got published in a journal that happens to like have a connection to a publisher. Genuinely inspiring. I always like, when I think like, I bet I'd be good at this thing.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And then I look at what the process is to start doing it regardless of how much effort it actually requires. I'm always like, I don't wanna do this thing. That's too much work and it probably won't even work out. So. Yeah, exactly. No, she talks about that, about how she kind of wishes she still had like the enthusiasm and kind of uncertainty about the process that she had when she was younger.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Don't we all, dude. So she now has seven books of poetry. By the way, she was born in 1986. So she's just four years, probably 36, I guess. She's 38. 38? She's one year older than me. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Seven books of poetry. She was also, this is not something I was aware of. I don't know if this is a common practice, but she was one of five official poets at the London Olympics. That's cool. Apparently they took poems and like erected them outside of the Olympic site, outside of the main stadium.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Yeah. And just like put those poems around the stadium. I don't know if this is a thing that other people do, but I thought that was really cool. They should bring back artistic competition at the Olympics, like writing and drawing and sculpture. And wasn't there one, there was like an architecture event at like the early Olympics.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Some of them would be more thrilling to watch than others. I'd watch an architecture contest. Yeah, I don't know that I would watch somebody write a poem as much as I love poetry. I don't know that I would. They'll just all get the same magnetic tiles. And we see who can do it.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's like a Rubik's cube, like whoever moves their hands the fastest. Yeah. So I wanted to read a poem from her sixth book, The Air Year, which came out in February, 2020, and it is called Sanity. I do kind gestures, remove my appendix, I put my ear to a flat shell, and nothing. I play the lottery ironically, get married, have a smear test. I put my ear to the beak of a dead bird, nothing. I grow wisdom teeth, jog, I pick up a toddler's telephone, hello, no answer. I change a light bulb on my own.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Organize a large party. Hire a clown. Attend a four-day stonewalling course. Have a baby. Stop eating Coco Pops. I put my ear right up to the slack and gaping bonnet of a daffodil. Get divorced. Floss. Describe a younger person's music taste as just noise. Enjoy perusing a garden center. Sit in a pub without drinking. I stand at the lip of a pouting valley. Speak to me. My echo plagiarizes. I land a real love plus two real cats. I never meet the talking bird again or the yawning hole. The panther of purple wisps who prowl inside the air. I change nappies, donate my eggs,
Starting point is 00:13:32 learn a profound lesson about sacrifice. Brunch. No singing floorboards, no vents leaking scentless instructions. My mission is over. The world has zipped up her second mouth. Jesus. I love that last line so much. I love a zipped up her second mouth. Jesus. I love that last line so much.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I love a lot of lines from that poem very much. Yeah, there's so many different ways to look at this. I've been kind of like noodling on it. I was breathless during like the back half of that poem. I realized, I just had a deep sigh and I was like, wow, I needed that. There's so many different ways to approach this. And I was like scouring for criticism
Starting point is 00:14:05 because I was curious how other people are interpreting this. And one person had suggested like, you have this kind of like mystery and wonder as a child and then you become an adult and then you don't have it anymore. But the poem is also called sanity. So there is a suggestion that like,
Starting point is 00:14:21 that the life that she has now is more reflection of what I guess is commonly accepted as sanity as opposed to what it was. Well, and that there is a great deal of reality kind of imbued in her day-to-day life now. That, I don't know, I think that you could describe that kind of like magical aspiration as a bit more detached ultimately.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I feel, yeah, I mean, that hits home in a big way. as a bit more detached ultimately. Yeah, I mean, that hits home in a big way. I feel like this is stuff that after you have kids, like especially, you think about a lot, like the way that your life is fundamentally different and the way that you interpret where your life is kind of going is totally different. Yeah, yeah, I just, there's a lot for me
Starting point is 00:15:07 to like kind of explore in that poem of like, because there's also for me, when she talks about those opportunities that she had to like put her ear to something magical and nothing happened, it like speaks to this kind of like, for me that creates kind of like an anxiousness. Yeah, sure. Like things don't make sense. Like things aren't happening.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like I'm not getting any feedback. And then to have this lack of mystery in some ways is like, oh, it's gotten easier. I'm not as scared. Right. But that may be my own disposition. I mean, if it happens anyway, I think it's nice to be grateful for it
Starting point is 00:15:46 instead of kind of mourning the, but there is like a sadness to this poem and I think that stage of life where it's like, it is easier to kind of keep your head down and focus on what you need to do and it's less confusing in that way, but it's hard not to miss that. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 No, that was my reaction. So she has a seventh book that just came out June, 2024. Wow, okay. So this is like hot off the presses. It's called Ambush It's Still Lake. And this is what the description says. It is a collection about quote, marriage, lesbian parenthood, addiction and recovery
Starting point is 00:16:22 in which a recurring dream is playing out. A world where mums impale themselves on pogo sticks, serial killers rattle around in basements, baby monitors are haunted by someone else's baby and through it all, love stays and stays like a stationary roller coaster that turns out to be the scariest, most thrilling ride in the amusement park.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That sounds pretty intense. Yeah, so I can't, there's not a lot about Caroline. And maybe that's just because we are in the US and she is not. And that was why it was difficult for me to find. From what I can tell, she has a four-year-old. I know that. I saw interviews where she indicated she has a four-year-old.
Starting point is 00:16:58 She has a partner that she may or may not still be married to. I don't know anything more than that. But I do know that this book does have a lot of poems about parenthood, and I wanted to read one more really fast, if it's okay. So this poem from Ambush at Still Lake is called Stick Parent. Cran oozes out over the lines of myself.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Wow, a voice says, now that is art. I look around, nothing but the thick blue stripe of the sky, my triangular house, the flat grass. It's so good, says the voice, let's stick it on the fridge. I feel my world lift then darken as a giant magnet clamps the sun. I smile through my eye dots. I'm art, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That's fucking great. You're lovely. I just like,. I'm art, I'm good. That's fucking great. You're lovely. I just like, when I found Caroline, and I found her because there was a poet that I brought to the show before named Rachel Long, who took courses from Caroline Bird, and she referenced her as like the instructor that made her feel like not other.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And so I looked at Caroline Bird and started reading her poems, and I was like, I want to- those were both incredible. I want to get all of her books now. Yeah. Um, so yeah, I would encourage you that book just came out. I'm sure you can find all of them. I don't know that the one that she wrote when she was 15 is still in print, but, um, I would encourage you to really, there's also a lot of, she does spoken word, she writes plays. So you can find a lot of stuff on YouTube if you're interested in learning more. Awesome. Can I see your way? Yes. Awesome. Have you been looking for a new podcast all about nerdy pop culture? Well, I have just the thing for you. Secret Histories of Nerd Mysteries!
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Starting point is 00:20:14 about ringtones lately. I'm glad that you, Griffin sent me what he's about to address in advance and I thought I recognized. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The piece of music from it, yes. So I was gonna like talk about ringtones cause I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:31 It was such a, Rachel and I have been sort of like able to live through the introduction of some pretty like central pieces of technology. Like it is crazy that cell phones were in a thing when we were born and now like everyone. And they didn't do much of anything. They didn't do much of anything.
Starting point is 00:20:51 The same for like, you know, the proliferation of the internet. Like there's stuff that, I don't know, I don't think of myself as terribly old, but I do think that when people find out like, oh, there were no cell phones when you were a child, like that makes us seem extraordinarily old. So I was thinking about ringtones because it was such a means of customization and personalization of your phone.
Starting point is 00:21:15 If you were lucky enough to be sort of like an early mobile phone adopter, people would look at you with your cell phone clipped to your belt. And I imagine it's what it's like when medieval people saw a knight walking by with a sword. They'd be like, oh damn, they've got a cell phone. I wonder what we're gonna hear when it rings. That's always the big question. Yeah, because there was not a lot you could do with your phone.
Starting point is 00:21:40 There were a couple games on it, usually. There was a really bad camera at a certain point, but not in the beginning. And so the only way you could really make your phone your own was- You could change the background on some of them. Yeah. But yeah, it was basically like a Tiger Electronics game
Starting point is 00:21:57 that you could make really shitty sounding phone calls on. But everyone that I knew that had a cell phone took the ringtone consideration very seriously and the earliest phones didn't have the ability to download ringtones. It would just come with kind of the 13 ringtones that you had to pick from and that was all you needed. But I feel like you could tell a lot about a person
Starting point is 00:22:19 based on that decision. Do they just use a straight up ring-a-ling sort of sound? Do they go with some crazy high-pitched sonar beep? My dad has had, since he has owned cell phones, has the worst habit of having the worst ringtone, the shrillest, loudest ringtone ever. For a really long time, it was, I think, FM radio by Steely was, I think FM radio
Starting point is 00:22:45 by Steely Dan, I wanna say. And it would just come on like, no static at all. Like anytime you got a fucking phone call, it was a nightmare. But the goat, the original ringtone is of course, Nokia tune. Nokia tune is the most recognizable ringtone
Starting point is 00:23:04 in the history of the world. It is a 13 note piece that was included in every Nokia phone, starting with the Nokia 2010 in 1994, not in 2010, where it was originally labeled ringtone type five. Real ones know about. Nokia was like the only game in town, it felt like. It was, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Everybody had a Nokia. I think AT&T had like their own, I don't know. Nokia was the only thing that people had. I think Samsung kind of got in there with phones for a while. And Blackberry was a thing, but only for like political figures. Yeah, no one in my high school had a Blackberry.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But it was, you know, the 13 ringtones or whatever on an early Nokia really would be like, this kind of sounds like a phone. This sounds like just like really high pitched beep. And then there would be, there was cool, was the one that was like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. That one's actually pretty tight too.
Starting point is 00:23:58 But once I found out about Nokia Tune, I only had one Nokia phone because I didn't have a cell phone until I was pretty old. I got that Nokia Tune on there and that was my jammer. So it changed numbers a few times after 1998 from ringtone type 5 to ringtone type 11, but in 1998 it was relabeled Nokia tune and became sort of the company's official ringtone. It was reported, I think in a TED talk in 2009, that the song was played 1.8 billion times a day.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I don't know if that was at the height of Nokia's power because I haven't heard this song come out of a cell phone in well over 20 years. Are you waiting to reveal what this sounds like? Because you haven't said what it sounds like yet. Well, it's not what it sounds like, it's what it is. That is my next point. Okay. Anyway, the song reached this place of prominence in the company and became the standardized ringtone largely because it was essentially royalty free. So there was a 2001 BBC interview, this guy Thomas Dolby who co-invented
Starting point is 00:24:55 the Nokia ringtone synthesizer described this process by which Nokia tune was selected. He said, one night a marketing guy stuck his head around the door of the engineering department and thought he heard somebody playing tunes with a phone. In fact, the engineer said, no, no, I'm just trying to tune it to get the most annoying frequency. The marketing guy said, well, could you make it play some tunes? So he knocked up half a dozen and they said, these sound great.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Let's ship it. It turned out the lawyers then stepped in and said, you can't ship a pop tune. There's royalties to pay and clearances to get unless the composer has been dead for 75 years or more. So they said, are any of these by dead composers the one that became famous as the Nokia theme was actually composed over 150 years ago by an obscure Waltz composer, and that was the one they went for
Starting point is 00:25:35 to become the most successful jingle in history. There's a lot of wild shit in that story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was confusing to me when you sent me a link to this song because I was like, are you gonna talk about this artist this long ago? This classical Waltz composer, as he is credited in this quote, was the Spanish classical guitarist Francisco Tarega
Starting point is 00:25:57 and the song is called Grand Vals, I probably, or Grand Vals perhaps, one of those two. If I said it wrong, just pretend it's because of my Appalachian accent. This song was composed in 1902, and if you've never heard it, you probably wouldn't recognize the rest of the song
Starting point is 00:26:14 aside from the 13-note Nokia tune that comes in like bar 13 of the song and then does not repeat. So the most famous ringtone in the world came out of this one very, very small section of a pretty obscure waltz from the early, like from the 1900s that just happened to be one that somebody composed while messing around
Starting point is 00:26:36 with the synthesizer chip on a Nokia phone. That seems like a lot of random accidents that led to the universe we live in in which the Nokia tune exists and is the most memorable. Are you gonna play it? So yeah, I wanna play some of Grand Falls because I think it is absolutely gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:26:52 ["Grand Falls"] I love classical guitar actually a lot. It's not like a type of music that I seek out, but I will get in phases where I will find like a classical guitarist who's like stuff I vibe with and kind of have brief affairs with them. And I remember I heard Granval's proper like 15 years ago or so. Oh really?
Starting point is 00:27:44 And I was so blown away that something that is so chirpy and I mean by the time that Nokia phones kind of stopped being the popular phone, like everybody was kind of annoyed by that sound. I feel like that sound was played for laughs as like the annoying cell phone sound. Isn't it in that episode of the office where Andy's phone gets thrown up into the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Oh yes. I don't know if it's the Nokia tune. No, it's not because it's like his acapella choir. Yes, that's right. But I remember just being so blown away when I listened to the song and I was like, listening to it and then you hear the ba-da-boo-ba, ba-da-boo-ba, ba-da-boo-ba.
Starting point is 00:28:21 It's so surprising. But then it keeps going on and on and on and you're like, wait, there's more song to the Nokia tune? Like that's not like the chorus of the song. It's not, it's one, that's what I'm saying. It's crazy, this one riff from fairly early on in the song just became the most popular like 13 notes of music. It could have been, you can't touch this.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Could have been. If they had just invested. A little bit of money. Yeah, that's my favorite part of the story is that someone had to tell them like, hey, you can't just sell a pop song on your cell phone. That's crazy. There's like rights and stuff to that.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But anyway, that's my whole segment. I just, I genuinely do like this song a lot and. That's magical. It's so like, it was so funny to receive this song from you because a lot of times Griffin will send me a song before his segment so I can become familiar with it. And so I didn't know what I was about to hear. And you didn't have to wait long, did you?
Starting point is 00:29:15 And then, yeah, and then when the little like ringer- It's like eight seconds into the song, it hits you with the ringtone. So surprising. I love it. Hey, we got a couple of submissions if we have time. Jeff says, my small wonder is getting cheap bagels from the day old bakery second at Randall's.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Not only are they great, I habitually buy them on the way to carpooling with a friend. I cut out for some reason that their car smells like fresh baked bread when they get out of the car wherever they go. Their bagels in the car. Love that, love Randall's, Ms. Randall's. Kenna says, my small wonder is tomato toast in the summer.
Starting point is 00:29:45 At the height of summer when the tomatoes from the farmer's market suddenly taste so bright and flavorful, I toast a piece of good bread, add a little butter or cheese, slice tomatoes, and salt and pepper, it's simple perfection. Oh, that's amazing. Bruschetta is like the only way in which I fuck with like big tomato pieces.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Yeah, when they're like all tiny and chopped up. Yeah, I like that a lot. Thank you so much to Bowen and Augustus for the Ysar theme song, Money Won't Pay. You can find a link to that in the episode description. We got a bunch of merch over at macaroymerch.com that you should go check out. We're doing a back to school sale
Starting point is 00:30:12 on all of our book bags and Taz notebooks and stuff like that. We have some live shows coming up in Orlando, in Atlanta, in Phoenix, in Indianapolis. We're also gonna be coming up pretty soon in Portland for real city Comic-Con. So go to bit.ly slash McRoy Tours to find out more information about those.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And that's gonna do it for us this time. Goodbye my lover. Goodbye. Let the embrace commence. Money won't pay, work can't open. Money won't pay, working on pain. Maximum Fun, a workaround network of artist-owned shows, supported directly by you.

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