Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 011: (SNW S01E01) Strange New Worlds

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

This week, Drew writes the episode summary because Brad is on a plane! The Gang watches Episode One of Strange New Worlds. Do they go to strange new worlds? Do they seek out a new civilization? Tune in to find out! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau Past Sadness by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5024-past-sadness License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Local Forecast - Slower by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3988-local-forecast---slower License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Theme from Jurassic Park by John Williams

Good evening, welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I am Brad for the evening i guess i you're always breath i think i think that's probably a uh... is an act with same as that i have always taken the breath but you know as always the folks we have it to amazing individuals joining me as usual we have well if if i were to say i'm silent bob he would be my j magi i was going to everybody i don't know I don't know why I be your Jay is it is because you're a skilled talented rapper

That's that's time. Oh right cuz I was saying more than 10 more than a time before we started you were doing a fantastic job Much better than I could right I was like 15 bucks little man, you know put it it in my hand and hit that money that's a show. True. Then you owe me owe me owe my jungle love. Oh, we owe me owe. And as you guys can clearly hear, we have the most fantastic man in the universe here, the true king of the castle that we are sitting in drew. How's it going there, buddy? It's pretty good. I'm really, you know, when we started this project, I didn't think this day would happen. Well, we should clarify a little bit to the listeners what's going on here. Yeah. So Brad lives out of town from Majid and I majid and I living Connecticut. Brad does not anymore anyway.

And he came up to visit for a bachelor party for a mutual friend of ours. And now we are recording in my living room, the three of us are sitting across from each other. And this is pretty freaking cool. And the coolest part of it all is this is also commemorating the debut of Strange New Worlds. Yeah. The very special day.

So not only do we get to hang out together and just, you know, be like idiots with each other, which is something we're very good at. But we also get to record a podcast together and we get to watch and talk about a brand new Star Trek series. Yeah. I think to the listeners, you just got to have to understand this episode is gonna be a little bit different than our normal format.

But it's gonna go smashingly well, I'm sure. Smashingly well. Yeah, you got to smash it, man. What do you, the father from Wild Thoramaries? Is that your warp command smash it? Smash it. Oh, you know command smash it? Smash it. Oh, you know what, that will be it. We'll just do that.

We can circle back to the first episode and make some changes. All that at that end. Yeah, I know, smash it. Hey, Brian, weren't you saying that today's like some kind of special day? Like, are you saying because this mother's day is special? Well, it is something that's very special for me

as long as I'm sure anybody else who has a mother, it's not that's very special for me. As long as I'm sure, you know, anybody else who has a mother, it's not just mother's day for me though. But Jews birthdays down to like June 12th. Well, your birthday was like a couple months ago. Wasn't it like in January? January 1st or something. Yeah. 19. I'm not a New Year's baby like that, but you were close. You're 18 days off. So is it really going to have to be me who announces it? Maybe it's my wife's birthday? Oh, it's Metro's birthday.

Yeah, it's Metro's birthday. And that's a birthday measure. It's tomorrow. That's lovely. Happy birthday, that show. And that's a Metro R Druskats as a reminder. Yes. But no, that's not what I'm referring to.

Is it your wife's birthday? No, it's not my wife's birthday. We don't get it. I give up. Does that, is that gonna leave everybody out? It's my birthday. Get out of here. No way.

What? Why are you here? Why am I here? And why aren't you like doing birthday stuff? That's fair. That's, you're being punished. So, I get to spend instead of spending it with my lovely wife, I have to spend it with my really interesting ex co-workers.

That is as cold as you could possibly get. But no, unrealistically though, it's probably my two very best friends in Connecticut. I feel like you have a stable of friends in other states. Well, technically my true best friend is just another version of me. That's fair. That is true. We are Bob, we are Legion. Or we are Brad, we are Legion.

Yeah. If you don't get that reference, that is a book series. Fantastic book series. Yeah. This book series I have book series. Yeah, book series. I have. We are a legend. Very good. Very good.

We try to get Drew to get onto it. But Drew, I tried listening to the audio book and I didn't like it. Drew doesn't like audio books. It's kind of hard to get into. Yeah. But I do want to read the actual books. And now that I work in an overnight shift and I don't speak with anybody for eight hours a day, I have plenty of time to read the actual books. And now that I work in a overnight shift and I don't speak with anybody for eight hours a day, I have plenty of time to read. Is that how Jack Nicholson went crazy in

the shining? Yes. Okay. All right. I'll work in no play, make Jack a dull boy. Just to avoid elevators with blood coming out. We do have elevators in my building. Do they have blood inside of it? No, but people have gotten stuck in them. I think I'm gonna say stabbed. I don't know why. I thought when you say, when you started that sentence, I'm gonna end up with stabbed. It is questionable. Can you go either way?

All right. Well, Majeed, I think you have an idea that you wanted to bring up at this point. Yeah, listen, I had an idea for a TV show. All right, I had an idea of two ideas. I didn't have names for the TV shows, but inside the Star Trek universe, two types of TV shows we don't have.

A, we don't have courtroom dramas. We don't have a Star Trek courtroom drama. So Star Trek Law in order. Right, we don't have a Star Trek Law in order. And the other one that we don't have is a Star Trek Medical Drama. Star Trek Law in order. Right. We don't have a Star Trek Law in order. And the other one that we don't have is a Star Trek medical trauma. Star Trek CSI? Well, no, no, not CSI, but like Star Trek ER.

So Star Trek ER? Yeah, Star Trek ER. We don't have a Star Trek ER, but I mean, don't they just like wave like an RGB wand at the person? So I think that's why there's not a Star Trek ER, because it would just be them be like, okay, again, the bed, you're good. I'm smarter within just that, but not much more.

Well, okay, sorry, sorry, all right, cool. Can you call for me? All right, now you're good. Yeah, I don't have a name for these shows, by the way. I don't know what I would call any of this stuff. I have a name for these shows, by the way. I don't know what I would call any of this stuff. Ah. He's dead Jim for the medical trauma.

I'm bad at this kind of stuff. Yeah, I am too. So if our listeners, what help me out, get me some names for a courtroom drama. And maybe a theme song. And of course, for the medical side of things. I'm going to tell you how I thought of this. Yeah, I was driving to church to, you know, to do the media stuff.

Oh, so you were sending on your throne? I was not, I was not in the bathroom. No. And I burnt my tongue on the T.O. was drinking. And for some reason, I was also thinking of you guys. And recording tonight. And for some reason, I was also thinking of you guys and recording tonight. And I said, hmm, burn my tongue, start trek, doctors, start trek. How come we don't have a start trek themed medical show? And then did you also think about suing the person

who made the T so hot? No, I thought about getting pulled over while I was screaming in pain because I burnt my tongue. Yeah, that was where my train of thought went. I'm not proud of it, but I'm not ashamed of it either. Well, if any of our listeners have suggestions for those TV shows that we have no capability

of producing, please shoot us a line. You know what's gonna happen is you guys are gonna leave. And I'm gonna be editing this thing like tonight or tomorrow, and I'm gonna come up with all these names and all these ideas. But right now I have absolutely nothing. It's embarrassing. Good, drop it on the Twitter for me.

Okay. If we can get, what's named La Forge, the reading rainbow guy, rainbow Randy. What is his name? Lamar Burton. Oh my God. Is rainbow Randy a real person? No.

So who's rainbow Randy? I have no idea. This is real name Randy. Nobody's named Randy. All right. Who are you talking about? The guy with the 360 sunglasses. Yeah, I thought he was rainbow Randy. His TV show. So anyway, Shelman, I don't know about you, but I'm really excited to watch this episode. Yeah, I've been excited since they since Zadi Pike stepped his way into the bridge of discovery. Yeah, this is something that I was kind of hoping that

they would do. Yeah, he should have he should have strapped the red shirt on burn on burn and and burn them and burn her up. Yeah, to predo to well, well folks, we are actually going to be now watching the episode. And if you want to, you can too on Paramount Plus. Yeah. Or any other places that are showing, I think overseas. I think they do Amazon. Amazon. Maybe Netflix is somewhere.

I have no idea. Anyway, you get your Star Trek TV shows legally. I want to stress that. We want to make sure we do it legally. So we're going to stop the recording. We're going to sit down and we're going to watch this thing. And then when we come back, we're going to talk about it. And I think the format of the show is probably going to be different from what we usually do because typically, Brad would take some time

to write up a synopsis for us and then one of the three of us would read it. And we would discuss but um it's just not a good use of time. We're gonna be winging it. We're gonna wing it. So Brad was too lazy to write us an option. I know I haven't gone like you know vented time travel to go to the future, get it back and you know you didn't invent time travel, a future. We'll see you soon. and and we are back thank you for all

sticking around and appreciate your patience on that all ten seconds I know I mean, for us, it was like an hour and a half. Maybe it could have been four. I don't know. Yeah, a lot of a lot of bathroom breaks. Yeah, Mijie was talking through it and everything. So it was a little bit of a different change watching it with my two best friends. I have a small bladder.

I've seen it. I've seen it. I'm how? Are you like going in and ex-ranking him while you sleep? I wasn't expecting to reply to me, but yeah. Well, we folks are going to do a ad lib quick summary of what this episode was about. So have fun folks because you're in for a wild ride because I have no idea what I'm going to say. But we actually start and we're seeing a blizzardry snowy mountain scape of a planet called

a Yarth. Yeah, the Earth. Oh, it's Earth. Oh, shit. Oh, I'm, what's it? Montana. Montana. Oh, I'm, what's it Montana? Montana. Oh, I thought it was called Montana.

Yeah, because they don't have win-mills of Mother Planets. Oh, that's how you know. My bad. So then, you know what that was really then? It must have been like Pike's audition video tape for Duck Dynasty. You're just trying to get the mountain look, you know, being part of the group, the gang. Hey, do we have to make fun of, you know, Zaddy Pike's beard? Well, well, of course, our lovely main character in this series, Pike is rocking a genuine

beard, not as good as Drew. I can tell you that. No, no, no, no, no, no, that beard was better than Drew's. That's true. The whole thing was, I'm sorry, I love you, Drew. I was trying to give you something, Drew. I can tell you that. No, no, no, no, that beard is better than Drew's. That's true. The whole thing was I'm sorry. I love you. I'm trying to give you something. I appreciate it. Well, listen, like we, we, um, we just recently stopped wearing masks, um, within the past couple of months. I've been keeping my beard pretty short because my job has, you know, the job that I actually physically have to go to unlike you guys That job has had mass mandates up until recently. So I can't have a long beard and we're a mask without it being like we're incredibly uncomfortable. So now now I have a goal

It's Christopher Pike Yeah, yeah, let's see if you can make that goal by the time we're doing this, uh, this series. I mean, I'm not going to lie to you, man. If Pike is what you're going for, you're not going to get it. That's Zadi right there. You're not, you're not getting on that. That's, that's just, that's top tier. That's goal. That's, uh, what, what, what are they called S rank? S tier? Yeah. If we don't, if we don't, a double, uh, double S, is that a thing double S tier? Yeah, all right.

It depends on which RPG you're playing. I know. No, but anyways, we cut to Pike. He's in a mountain cabinist with a lovely lady who I don't really remember her name. Did they give it to us? I don't. Yeah, he's a captain something. Yeah, he's a captain something.

Yeah, yeah. But anyways, she was a very lovely lady. And also another captain has, you may g'd quite kindly pointed out. However, apparently somebody is trying to contact him. It's picking up his phone. He's doing the ghosting kind of attitude right now. I'm not gonna answer it. You know, they can leave a message if it's really important.

Of course, apparently it's really important. So they actually come and go cat him. What was the guy's name? The pop-toe of the- That was Admiral Robert April, who was the first captain of the Enterprise. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes, I learned that last week, actually.

Yeah, so Robert April was only referred to by name up until the animated series. And I haven't seen it, but I believe there's one episode that they did about him. I'm not sure to what extent, but the character was actually drawn in an episode. Did he look like what we got in the show? No. No, they definitely took some liberties with the casting. I don't really have a problem with that. Yeah, that's about of me.

I don't have a point of reference for Robert April. It's been really more or less a footnote. I never saw the animated series out of nothing to go against. I mean, in the animated series, it was an old white guy. Oh, okay. I mean, you know, it was quite of improvement in this one. Yeah, with the old white guy. The one that we got.

Oh, I like them. Yeah, he was good, but I mean, again, like I don't have... It was on the screen for what? Three minutes? Yeah. Was it three minutes? Wasn't that long? It was brief.

It was really brief. I do hope that we get more of that. I kind of like the idea of there being that admiral that one isn't like a supervillain and two like gives the captains a kick in the ass. We got that a little bit with Cornwell and Discovery. Admiral Ross and Deep Space Nine which uh Brad you might remember. Yeah. Yeah. Uh GD you haven't. It was a I thought it was a woman in Deep Space Nine. I was gonna agree with you and I was gonna be on a state page. What was the who was the um wait was that was that Admiral in the Kelvin universe that was kicking that was that was uh Elz Rob elbow cap. Yeah Peter weller. He was a bad guy. He was a bad guy. Peter weller. Have you way? Oh, no, I'm thinking no, the guy who recruits pike and not pike. Um,

Kirk. That's pike, man. That's a pike 2.0. That's Kelvin Pike. That's the name of the convention we want to. That was pike in there. Oh, yeah, he was a brother to bar fight man. No, he's a captain. Is captain of the other price. Clearly, clearly, I am lacking in my trek knowledge. What's wrong here? I know. Well, I have a G here too, because he's the Kelvin guru. Kelvin guy. Yes, Thor, yeah, Thor's universe. And anyways, start trick four and more Thor. I like that. Unfortunately, Pike's little getaway was interrupted. He has about a week left before he needs to go to Enterprise, but we have a emergency.

Apparently, his number one, well, messed up first contact. And so it's poor Luna. I know, I know. I'm so excited for her though, and coming to the show. But anyway, she messes up. Oh, I convinced us. What's that?

Who's in it? Luna is number one. Yeah, they were back back over say her name. Well, they they they said before before this. So you guys are not just miss Bernal to U know. Correct. Who knows what her first name is canonically, you and a is that is that put to be some kind of cheeky in joke?

Because Uno was one probably. Oh, that could. Wow. I mean, that's I didn't get that. But that's entirely possible. I know you're trying to be funny, but I'm being I'm being pretty serious. This is one guy. I know that rocks the dead jokes on a sleeve. He's going to probably think the same as that thing. Yeah. More likely screw that guy. So so we cut to them going to the enterprise enterprise being in space stock. They do make a comment on How it hasn't gone through all the rundowns the checks and everything like that

I which I thought was gonna become a major point at some point during the episode Does really come up. Oh, you know what we missed? Spock got engaged. Yeah. That was a little bit thing. There are high ballers. It was jumping ahead there, but Spock got proposed to, by his, he has some booty. What's that?

He's getting booty. Yeah. He was trying to interrupt the booty session. I mean, he could have still gone back and done it. So to Pring is the name of the to Pring, the lovely lady that spark was with. And she does appear in the original series. Okay. I have not seen that episode, but it is episode of mock time. So that was one of the like we took a look at IGN's like top, you know, TOS episodes of mock time. So that was one of the like, we took a look at IGN's like top, you know, TOS episodes of all time.

Yeah. I mean, 30 on the original. Is it not the one that was not the one that computer generated like the actual article? I mean, it was absolutely AI written. Well, no, I mean, there was like reading through it. It's like these are some of the worst episodes we've ever seen. Well, no, Brad, you can't say that an AI wrote it

because you're basically an AI. Well, it was written by the IGN team, quote, unquote, the IGN team. Secondly, you could tell it was like just like, the article was written by an AI that just crawled a bunch of web pages. It's just like, it's really, it really, because I remember like,

was reading through it. And I'm like, I was reading through it and I'm like, I don't understand how this was like a top 10 episode. Cause I think it was like one of our worst. Yeah, yeah. It made me doubt our rating system because I hated a lot of those episodes. Yeah, yeah. And also all of the episodes were focused on like

the first half of season one. They were only a handful that were scattered throughout the rest of the show. Did it have naked time on there? It did. That sucks. Listen, if you're gonna put a naked time on a top 10 all-time list, you must not have seen naked time. Yeah, I would agree with that. Anyways, so we cut to the enterprise where Spock meets Pike on there and they're going through the crew roster You know saying that how they are a little bit late and they mentioned that Kirk is a lieutenant Kirk is going to be not able to join them which

Leads questions. Yeah, that I have questions at that point in time. They do give us some answers thankfully. And they go through, we meet the bridge crew, who are there, very lovely new actress, different hairstyle. Yeah, who is it, Cadet? She got it going out. She has 10 years. They have a substitute number one. Yep. Lieutenant, uh, Juan Nunean Singh. And then who are the other bridge crew drew? Because I totally do not remember. We have Adiris Elba in the, uh, in the doctor's role.

Oh, wasn't there, like, Lieutenant drummer or something like that? Uh, yeah, so, so I, I was joking around when we were watching that Lieutenant Lahn, uh, Nunean Singh was very commina drummer like for those fans with the expanse. I'm not the originator of that statement. A lot of you pointed that out the way. What? Anyway. So then we, we do go to a medical or we, no, no. Do you want me to talk about the other? Yeah, okay, yes. I apologize. Go ahead, go ahead.

Yep, yep, yep. I'm trying to get there. Let's see here. So we've got crap. Where is it? We have Ortegas on the wheel. Yep, yep. So we've got Erica Ortegas.

She's the Helmsman, right? Driver. We've got Ura, which we've already acknowledged. I guess that's it. Before we get to Sick Bay anyway. Okay, so then we go to the Sick Bay crew. I think we're, I'm going to skip a little bit here. Just go to the Sick Bay crew to introduce it.

So we have the doctor. What was his name? Dr. Dr. Dr. Interseoba Dr. M Benga and Benga. Yeah, it's M. Apastrophe Benga. Mm-hmm.

He he seems like an interesting character. Yeah, and I'm not sure if you guys noticed. He's not a bartender. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. It's still but he absolutely feels like the kind of guy that could be. Right.

I could see Pike and him getting a drink together. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. What? No, don't do that. As a kid said, don't know.

No, why says that? Everybody says nobody. We have one last addition. And that was one of the ones that I'm more excited for, Nurse Chapel. And that made me like really excited to see her aboard the Enterprise. Why, wouldn't she on like one episode of T.O. Which is, which is a, to me also kind of funny

with the fact that number one in nurse chapel in the original series was portrayed by the same person. Yeah, yeah. True story. Nurse chaplain of a one. Were they really? Yeah, yeah. Number one in the pilot, the cage, was played by, uh, Major Barrett, Rod and Barry. And Christine Chapel was also played by Major Barrett. You blew my mind. Rod and Barry. Yeah. Um, I think you we talked about this actually. We probably have. Yeah, we have. We have. We have.

I had a hard not to consider that she was married to Jean. I mean, to be fair, I don't remember what we record last week. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. But, I mean, she wasn't in a ton of episodes of the original series, but she was in quite a few, 25 episodes of the original series, nine episodes of the animated series,

two of the films, and now she's a regular in Stranger and Worlds. Just before we go on, can I just say that it sucks that Brad lives in Atlanta, because we could be doing this every single week. You suck, Brad. We could be like recording, we're in the same room with each other every single week. I don't think we would have the time to do that every single week, but every other week, every other week,

maybe once a month. You guys have more time than I do. No, I do not. No, we don't. I promise you. Yeah, I'm willing to, you know, lob off time to so so what would it be we like just make a permanent studio in Drew's living room basement I'm sure I'd your wife would love that I mean as long as I'm not in if it was in the basement she probably wouldn't care yeah we could yell and scream and good to karate this room for karate down there yeah karate for everyone. Anyway, so we, we, the crew. Sorry, sorry, Brad. It's okay. You're asking to murder me. This is why he doesn't have to. The end of rise or to the planet that where number one was trying to make first contact. What was the name of that planet? Stand by. Kaleos.

Kaleos. I'm working on it. I thought I'm close. It starts with the K. It was definitely a K and E. And then it's like iOS at the end. I want to bet Brad's car on it. EI, EI, EI, EI.

Kylie. Kylie 279. Kylie. I was right. I was car on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kylie Kylie 279. I was right. I was close. Yeah. Okay. So we we go to Kylie 279. And of course. Some sort of

Plasma weapon gets shot from the planet. Yeah, Plasma. Plasma tribus. Yeah, plasma tribus gets shot to weapon and shoot out the enterprise. I mean, when you hearpedoes. Yeah, Plasma Torpedoes get shot to the open and shoot out the enterprise. I mean, when you hear things are going wrong, is anybody really surprised though? No, no, no, no, because at that point, the episode will be 30 minutes. Yeah, I mean, it's like if they got there and it was very uneventful, then we'd be like talking about the credits.

While they're, they find the other ship that number one and two other scientists were a part of, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm correct if I'm wrong. There was only three people on that ship. That's the implication. And it was a, it was a decent size ship, right? Yeah. No, it was a very decent size ship.

It, we even asked, well, why is it, it looked so different, you know? Yeah, it would look like an actual federation ship. I'm thinking it was destroyed because they fired pleasant torpedoes at the ship when it arrived in orbit and they didn't have their shields up. That could be the reason why there's only three left, three surviving members. Yeah, but they implied that they were the only three on board from what I recall. Yeah, that's what they kind of implied So so I don't know I

I'm a big nerd when it comes to the starships I am going to have to find out as much as I can about this one. Okay, because they don't mess in that ship ever again so the Pike decides to take an away team down to the planet. It's him, Spock and Sing. The go to sick bay, Nurse Chapel is a fantastic disguise artist and genetic engineer who manipulates their genetic something, something something DNA there you go to To make their foreheads look different and their genetic code apparently to Right, you can't mess with some ice forehead, but I messed with their DNA, right, but she's she's not able to

Be as thorough with Spock because he's half human and half Vulcan yes thorough with Spock because he's half human and half Vulcan and blah blah blah dramatic reasons. And that comes up later in the episode. Well, a thing Spock and Pike all beamed down to the planet, which I want to comment on this part is that apparently in the future, the transporter will also address you. Well, so that's not completely unprecedented because there have been episodes of Next Generation and probably the other shows as well too, where objects have been beamed off of people. So for example, there was one episode

where data was firing a phaser and the phaser was isolated in transport So you know, I feel I feel like this though is a good opportunity For something that I really want so if you to ever have a gift to give to me I would love the Transporter dresser only no the only way you're gonna get one of those is if you're ever have a gift to give to me, I would love the, uh, Transporter Dresser only. No, the only way you're going to get one of those is if you're willing to record

in person on a weekly basis or a biobically basis. Or biweekly because I have no time. I'm brand. I'll buy a plane ticket and fly up here every week. No, use a transporter. Then yeah, I'm okay with that. Or just quantum leap up here. Whatever you do it.

I'll quantum leap into it. And I'll just be, I'm okay with that. Or just quantum leap up here. Whatever you do it. I'll quantum leap into it. And I'll just be recording as, I'll take over like Sam Beckett did. No, just just jumping to a Metro. Meow, meow. Okay, I guess I'll be sliding, right? I'm not sure, Sliders, right? Sliders, they,

Into a parallel universe, where you guys live in Atlanta and we do a podcast in Atlanta. No, that that that universe is garbage. I've seen it before. Anyways, so so the three beam down, they have civilian street clothes. Apparently the Plan is on conflict and they're warring and some sort of neighboring faction. Yeah, it sounds very much like a world Or the current by by the way, so drew like They showed clips. Yeah of what appeared to be the 21st century are worlds

So drew thought he saw the Ukraine flag. Yes, it's very well possible that Drew actually saw the Ukraine flag. So if everyone's listening and they happen to catch the same thing, let us know. I just googled the Ukraine flag and I am almost 100% positive. It was that because they were showing it was supposed to be a clip of like a newscast of the planet showing the strife between these two warring countries, right? And there was somebody that was waving a flag and it was two colors. The top color was blue, the bottom color was yellow. And that is not a coincidence.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure I saw stuff about auditing the vote. Yeah, well, that was in the part where he was showing flashbacks actually of Earth. Wait, is that a spoiler alert? We're not there yet. Is that a spoiler alert? I mean, no, not really. No, I'm gonna talk about it at this point.

But I mean, but just to kind of clarify though, when we saw what I thought was Ukraine flag, that was supposed to be footage of that planet. So, I mean, it could have been. Anyway. I hope they have their own Ukraine. Anyways, they beam down, walk around civilians, they see footage, and they try to identify the source of the warp signature that they're looking for,

and they find two scientists, and Singh does this little oh no I've fallen and can't get up kind of vatitude or no wait she was sick or something she was a prey what she was no she was making herself be the prey like she was luring me and then she was trying to signal the spark to Vulcan sleeper hold Spock to Vulcan sleeper. Drew, you're gonna stand for that. He's gonna sit for it. accurate.

Anyways, Spock does a Vulcan sleeper roll that can do. That conveniently not the two scientists. That conveniently not so the two scientists. And they of course they don't they take their clothes, their credentials. And they all happen to fit by the way. Well no, they just beat because there's only two of them and there's three. So they they beam down the clothes. Oh, okay. They were trying to get it.

It was well we never saw it, but yes. Okay. Oh, okay. Oh, right. Okay. It was well, we never saw it. But yes, okay, it's implied. And then they beam the two scientists up to the planet or not to plan up to the enterprise. Yeah. And they sneakily make their way on to the base. However, it is important to note that that is when the time where Spock's genetic issues is starting to cause a problem. And he's not going to pass the retinal scan. This, which, which to me is a little bit. Oh, yeah, that's a little. I mean, if it wasn't going to be simple, it would have been a half hour episode.

They had to be some kind of conflicts. Yeah, it's a very manufacturing. And so when, so what their plan was was like, oh, no, let's try to figure out some sort of genetic, you know, a serum to give to the spot. They scan scientists one, nope, not a match. Scan scientists two, match, hooray. Of course, scientists number one wakes up.

Oh no, we gotta go put them to sleep. Number two wakes up and it's like, oh shit, I'm out of here and starts running. And then Nurse Shappel starts chasing after him. Yeah. She had a good stride on her run. I was very impressed with the way she was able to run. She does.

And it would appear to be a body suit. Yeah. So he put her in a onesie. So he does make his way away from her and into a turbo lift where who was who has a very nice conversation about one of their one of his favorite sports apparently. Yes, she just starts chatting this dude up about T ball T ball or whatever it was turbo ball something something. Yeah, some ball.

Alien baseball sports. Very smooth though. I like her. Oh, yeah, she's nice. She seems like a ball So far, yeah, yeah, I got to be honest with you, like I was not 100% on board with them putting her around the ship. I felt like generally, and this is like a complaint that I've had with a lot of the new track, I feel like they're kind of going fanfiction. He was some of the stuff they're doing the way they're tying in stories that weren't ever really there, putting characters in situations that were never written for them. But so far, I'm on board with this.

I'm willing to give it a try, but I understand what you mean, because to me, I would rather have them create new characters rather than just solely base upon certain aspects around older fan favorites. And while I do feel that who are definitely from what we've seen in Star Trek doesn't have that much of a story as that in the original TOS, I feel like it could have been expanded upon giving more detail or more in depth. Maybe that changes later on the episodes. But I would rather have them create a brand new character. Yeah.

That's just how I feel. Speaking of new characters, like, or character new adjacent, there's that one at the end, you know, the one with the mustache. Yeah, well, well, I'm sorry. I mean, you know, it was a nice segue. Don't yell at me, Brad. Just as an aside, too. And I did not realize this until just now,

but apparently Dr. Mabenga and Vega, it herself. Yeah, he's also somebody that has an appearance in the original series. Get a lot of here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is shocking to me. It shouldn't be shocking to both of you. Well, I haven't really we haven't watched all the.

Yeah, there's a lot of T.O.I. T and G DS9. That stuff like we've seen all of that for the most part. So that's why this has been like such a fun project for me because it's given me excuse to sit down and watch this show. Yeah, same here. But I see like I'm okay with them taking characters that did those one-off episodes. Totally.

And then expanding for it, like Pike, I think has been fantastic because it's, we've had the just the cage and the the menagerie. That was it. And Calvin. The Kelvin does in this context. Calvin doesn't exist. Yeah. So so having like an image more expanded, you know, background towards it, even nurse chapel, like nurse chapel is not like a starring major character. Right. And to have a lot more. I wonder if we're going to see Dr. Corby. not like a starring major character. And to have a lot more. I wonder if we're gonna see Dr. Corby. Why would we see Dr. Corby?

That was the guy from the cage, right? No, no. He was where no man exists. No, no, no, no. Corby was the one she was in love with. It had the, it was a little girls' man of, yes. Mm. The robot.

Yeah. Ooh. I doubt yes. The robot. Yeah. Ooh, I doubt it. You're probably. You're just going into fanfiction now, you're right. You're right, you're right. Damn me, damn me. He's fine. Don't worry about the cat.

But either way though, it's, it would be, it is nice to have like expanding upon those characters that are lesser known. I guess maybe to my point though, before what I was saying is that we haven't seen the rest of TOS and who could be a really good character to really expand upon as far as getting an understanding. Yeah.

But so I'm willing to give it a try. What else we got going on this episode? Cause I have questions I wanted to nerd out, but you would let me talk. So they go down and they rescue number one and the two other crew and they just happened to dig out a hole inside the wall with a spoon, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like Andy, and it's like Andy did in a short check redemption.

They were trying to like use it as a means of getting a transport or signal through, but apparently they're just too far with these rounds. Right. So Spock was like, you wasted your time. Yeah. What a waste of time. Spock and Pike and the saying saying, right? Yeah. They, they start to escape, of course, in the moment that they get out of the cells, people come down, do some action. Pow. Right. Wait, do that again that again do more do more karate sounds bang pow Well, you forgot about the part where uh, oh, yes box transforming him back into that was funny

By the way, I'm I couldn't help but laugh. He's like hey the pain's unbearable He he lets out this gut roll like scream. Yeah, and then 10 seconds later. He's like, ah, that's better. Yeah Four heads all back Delivery on that was wonderful. I love it. I really enjoyed that There's a lot of levity in this. Yeah, you know what it is. I think his there's so much charisma coming from these characters man Again, Zadi mounts, Zadi Pike. We'll talk, I have some thoughts on Zadi. On all of that.

Just come Zadi. We'll get to. So they, they start going up the elevator, going back to the, the very top so they can escape. However, was a number one, it, advises what happened is to why this planet has the warp drive sensory or whatever it was. It was a warp drive indication that they have warp drive technology.

Was that their observations of what happened in, I think, season two, end of season two of discovery, was what allowed their scientists to figure out how to design warp drive. So, I mean, basically, what happened was, like, there was this huge war at the end of season two before discovery vanished off into its next adventure. And this planet, like, backwards engineered flashes of light. How is that even possible science? There are reasons are more reasons. I also, I don't know what happened. Why did discovery leave in season two? Because they had the AI control.

Yeah, and they had the um, was it the red angel thing? Red angel suit? Yeah, yeah, they were. Oh my god. Oh, confused. Yeah, again, the best part of it was, was pike, man. I'm sorry, it really was.

Yeah, but either way, they transport, and they go away, and apparently you're able to reverse engineer light to identify warp drive Anyways, so Pink makes this executive decision that They're not going to leave the planet as is and so him and Spock leave behind despite the fact that Spock's covered is entirely blown and everybody else beams a back board, which nothing to think about it, they never talk about what happened to those two people they beamed aboard. They killed them obviously.

They take a completely just drop that. I assume they got beamed back to the planet. At that point, the covers blown, you might as well. I mean, they already, you know, violated one rule. This is going to kill them. So you talked about violations. Should we get to that yet or with the general order one stuff? Well, they mentioned it in general, where I get that moment, right?

Where... So they mentioned general order one. Yeah. Later on, they changed that. Prime directive. Prime directive. Yes. So the, so, no, no, not Pike, was number one or saying.

One of those mentioned that what Pike was looking to do was against General Order number one. And that they shouldn't, because what he was going to do is going to make first contact with GoDirectly to whoever's in charge and explain to what's going on. Right. It's like Pike was trying to get fired. Yeah. Well, the thing with general order one is like they're not supposed to interfere with pre-warped

societies. Yes. And technically, while they have work technology, they're not using it for travel. So they're not like, I guess, really a pre-warps society. Or they're still a pre-warps society. Yeah because of any type of like weapons could quite easily just destroy the entire planet. They basically use, they're using warp drive to make a nuclear bomb. Yeah. And so Piken and spot go up to the very top and he goes,

take me to your leader. And surprisingly enough, they bring them to their leader. Yeah, it's just like oh, yeah She's just sitting right here in the building next door. Yeah, you know, I mean that's total sons Yeah, you know like if I said that to Our authorities it bring me straight to the president straight to jail. Well So Mike tries to explain the situation tries to cover everything with the leader She of course doesn't believe him, doesn't really care. Is there, there are war.

So that he's like, I want to win. I'm going to give these. She's like, I don't care how many casualties he's going to have to occur. Whatever. We've read shirts. I got to die. Yeah. Pretty much.

So, so of course, she's like, take him away. Pikes like, no, no, you got to understand. I got the bigger stick here. And he reveals the enterprise. Apparently they have like some sort of cloaking technology or something. No, they just they lower the ship. On that note, if you think about some of the other episodes we've watched through like Star Trek Voyager going into atmosphere is a big to do. Oh, yeah. And they're just like, yeah, whatever. We're good. It's just completely by. And it's it's hovering over a city entirely. And everybody's like, oh my god, there's a fly and salsa. So I totally get the Voyager reference.

All right. So in every episode of Star Trek where there's been sort of entry from orbit in outer space through an atmosphere into, you know, Earth or any planet, is basically a situation where that ship is probably not getting out of it. Voyager was an exception because Voyager actually had landing gear, shuttlecraft also has the ability to land and take off, most starships don't so once a ship like makes it beneath The atmospheric layer first of all it's like this huge thing with like the ships like blowing up Everything is shaken the shields are struggling Bobbie blah, and then most of the time they can't get out of it because gravity This Did none of that. Yeah didn didn't apply NA, not applicable.

Think about like when, you know, Daddy Musk launches one of his SpaceX things up into space. Don't call him daddy. But yeah, think about like the orbital reentry, you know. Sure. Because he's burning up with a reentry. Right. They didn't kill him but yeah, to to that point There was none of that it's just the hey, we're here and it's like that's usually like a whole action sequence

Yeah, they really emphasize like oh my gosh I can't believe we're doing this and then this one is just like no it's good. I mean to be fair. We just saw it from Pike's point of view We don't know what they would do with this ship. Well, I don't think he would order the ship to go into the atmosphere, though, unless the amount of time that it was, he's like, make it so. And then we're like, what's that? Oh, the window. Sure. He didn't say make it so. He said smash it, didn't he? That's my line.

It's like orbital reentry. That's my line. Smash that orbital reentry. Do we talk about that in the podcast? What your go phrase would be? No, we did, we did, but it wasn't smash it. I think that's my new catch phrase. Smash it.

That's just. Okay. I'm going to get into this one again. So anyways, that kind of brings the attention to everybody watching my cat going a bag he should not be in. Oh boy don't get stuck please thank you. So anyways we we cut to the the ship in the air that apparently you know scares everybody shitless be like oh my god there's aliens are alive because now the whole public knows about aliens.

And then the two boring factions decide to make some sort of talks, which apparently don't go anywhere at all. And Pike has a discussion with Singh, gets a little philosophical and then figures out, oh, I know what I need to do. And he beams down to the talks and shows them Earth's history and where they could go, which is what Magi, you're referring to about the, the, the, some of the stuff you were seeing on the screen.

Yeah. Which was pretty interesting. They were like, oh, okay, I guess in this universe, people still tried to hang members of the Senate. Well, the one thing that they don't, I don't know if they've talked about in some of the stuff you watch is, but there is like a World War three. Yeah, it's a thread that's done with a throughout Star Trek. Yeah. And I'm not mistaken, it's supposed to happen pretty soon. In our world or in Star Trek world?

In Star Trek world. Oh, okay. But also in our world. Well, yeah, I mean, like, you know, they're in Star Trek world, the date that it happens is close to the date that we're at now. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken.

Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not so worried about it. If it was a Simpson that says it might happen in 2024, that's when you get worried. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they said something like that. Distimpsons? Yeah. Yeah, in 2026 to 2053, according to...

That's a long world war. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, so they go down, they show them the footage, and apparently that scares the crap out of them. And he goes, you got two options. You can either make war with each other or you can join the Federation. Then of course, what do they do? They join the Federation. They join the Federation.

Yeah. I mean, well, you know, when you have a giant ship hovering above your capital, I guess. I mean, I think that's a kind of a good motorader. Yeah, do it or die. I mean, I think that's a kind of a good motor rater. Yeah, do it or die. We come in peace. But then they go through a montage of all the, uh, it's me pointing a gun. Oh, that was me doing gun hands. Gun hands.

Say we come in peace while holding guns. They're ahead. Yeah. Drew can see me holding gun hands now. Pew pew. Sorry, Brad, this is a gun hand. It's been you have your index finger and middle finger like like straight and then you have your thumb up

but you're ring finger and pinky finger. I don't know the reading sign. No, this is my reading sign. It was just the middle finger to you. I'm sorry, that was off track. That was inappropriate. I'm sorry Brad. It's okay.

Want want. Sorry. it's okay. Want want. We then go through the montage of them joining the Federation. We cut back to the Enterprise. Pike is being happy. We have our real number one back with us as number one. And then we finally meet Kirk. But it's not Kirk. It's mustache Kirk. Mustache Kirk. And it's not mirror version evil Kirk either. It's his brother. Yeah, yeah. Samuel Sam George Samuel Kirk or Sam Lieutenant, right? Yeah, lieutenant Sam Kirk as Pike referred to a

Reporting to Spock no less yeah and so that explains why they're referring to Kirk And I guess we'll see more of him in the upcoming season very much a red herring It caught me off guard. I was not expecting that. Well, I mean, you weren't expecting anything. You didn't watch you were, you went into this dark. I, I really tried to. Yeah. Same way I tried to. Um, so I, I, again, Sam Kirk is, uh, eventually in an episode of the original series and having not seen most of the original series, I was not, which episode

operation and Nile, that was also one of AI IGNs. I don't know. Well, it is, if I'm not mistaken, it's a season one episode. So we'll see it in a few weeks. Well, I mean, relatively. Yeah. Yeah. Um, at some point in the future.

Yeah, basically, but, but I mean, the, the thing that caught me off guard is it just It was well I guess it was just good case of misdirection, you know, they did a pretty good job. Yeah All right listen, I enjoy the episode I I Listen, I enjoy the episode. I will lie. I'm pretty tired like I'm exhausted. It was a long weekend for us I've been I've been yawning. I had my head on bread. Hey, you didn't fall asleep. That's what I didn't fall asleep I'm not like one of our other buddies who doesn't listen to the podcast So it's okay. We can talk about yeah, no We can call him wing

right about. Yeah, no, we can call him winged. Right, right. Maybe he's still on this. It is. I'm so tired. It took a second. Yeah, no, I fell asleep. I, for a second, I have my hat on Brad. I'm Brad shoulder, which was nice. Brad's told me I smelled good, but I need to hear it over there. He smelled really nice. Thank you. Dude, I love Anton Mount as pike. Dude, I'm sorry. He's great. He's charismatic. He's so far a good leader. He's not trying to kill a bunch of red shirts either. But what really shined for you on this episode? The whole thing. By the way, the ship's aesthetics, like it's kind of hard to think that this show, By the way, the ship's aesthetics, like it's kind of hard to think that this show, right, one of the show, but the ship is so technologically advanced.

But when we go back to watching the original TOS, and we're going to see the downgrade, it's like, um, it's like the meme or gift you, or video you showed me of the pre-release of Cyberpunk. of the pre-release of Cyberpunk. Da- epic version epic score and then they switch to the at the time release version and it's the kazoo. There's a PlayStation 4 version. Go right. Yeah. It's such a downgrade.

Yeah. But the red, I love when they say red alert, the whole ship turns red. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Um, I don't know, man. I'm loving the show so far, which is something. Drew, how about you? Um, yeah. I mean, you know, I'm loving the show so far, which is something. Drew, how about you?

Yeah, I mean, you know, as far as pilots go, I thought this was a pretty strong one. Although, I will say that most pilots don't have the baked-in characters already established like with Pike, Spock, number one. So this show is already coming in with characters that we're familiar with and characters that the actors have already played. There isn't that like Warming up period getting to know you period of of these characters or at least not those three. It's like a pseudo pilot I think a very good way to say. Yeah, I mean like see it in a way season two of discovery was a pilot for this It's a spin-off a back was a pilot for this. It's a spin off a backdoor pilot and

it's kind of like when Michael Dorn joined DS9 and you didn't need like a full introduction to him. Right. Michael Dorn was the guy with the mountain range on his forehead. Yeah. Yes, worth. So I mean that said like you know we have a lot of new characters that we're being introduced to, and those are gonna take a little bit of time to kinda get to know. And we have, according to Pike, we have 10 years, potentially 10 years, to spend with him before he ends up as a fax machine. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. Beep. Wow. Beep. Wow. Beep. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

No, you have a good point. That's something that actually you didn't really touch on in your No, I didn't have this. But I mean, that's, you know, that seems like he's haunted. He's definitely. He's haunted, man. Yeah. I wasn't expecting him to lean into that quite as hard as they did.

Yeah. I mean, I'm glad they are. He's got to be just do something so totally like to to me. He saw his own death. Well, well, no, it's not he saw he felt it Yeah, right when it wasn't technically his own death. It's more of just him being Parallel-sized for rest of his existence. It's not a word What let me put this way like if you if you know that you're going to turn into what he turns into because of an action that you take, wouldn't that haunt you? You're saving kids though. He is saving people.

But I think what he's doing is very, it makes a lot of sense because he took that time off away from Starfleet and became a mountain man. That's essentially what he did. Well, as we've seen in the cage and in the menagerie, you know, well, so just background, no. We have watched menagerie parts one and two. We've recorded episodes for it, but they won't air until after Stranger Worlds. So, but the three of us have that backstory. We know that Pike has a thing for horses and living on the farm and all that stuff. So they're grabbing these little threads

of his history and just expanding on it, which I think is- Oh my God, they mentioned that in the cage. Yeah, was there any technique? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. Oh, the horses, remember? Man, yeah, I might be burned. I'm tired. I can tell, I can tell. Oh, okay. This is remember. Man, yeah, I might be burned. I'm tired.

I can tell. I can tell. Yeah. So I hate the cage so much. Yeah. But I mean, like if we needed the cage in order to get what we have, like I'm okay with it. Yeah.

And we talked about it during the recordings. Well, one of the recordings I haven't aired yet. We've already met Vina because they landed on Tallos 9 in season 2. Four. Tallos 4. What did I say? Tallos 9. Did I really? Yeah. You guys must say in DS 90 entire night so twice. That's fine. So we've already landed on Tallos 4. He's already met Vina. His virtual self is still there and Burnham also already landed on Talos 4. He's already met Vina. His you know, virtual self is still there. And Burnham also went to Talos 4. Right. So timeline wise, we have the cage. We have season two of discovery. In which in in part of season two, they also go back to Talos. Right.

The rest of discovery, then this, and then the menagerie. Yeah. I want to comment on the menagerie. Remember, I know the audience hasn't got to the episode when we watched it, but there's a point, a comment in it, like you can't go back to Tellos 4. Yeah, but they've gone three times. Yeah.

Brad, what do you think of the episode? I was very pleasantly surprised. Yeah I had hoped that was gonna be like a really energetic different pace and I was I was rewarded with something better in my mind because it is one of the things that I do miss from our original run of Star Trek series is that episodic feeling and this is a lot more episodic. I don't know how the rest of the season will turn out if it's going to maintain something and have like an undertone of some sort of background or anything like that. But I really am hoping that it keeps this pace up. Do you guys think that this is invoking the feel of the original series so far?

Yeah. Yeah. The adventure of the week type thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely do. So since Majid is falling asleep on myself, I'm falling asleep on yourself. Do you guys want to just give us a score and wrap it up? Nine. I think that might be a good idea for you, Mijin. Nine. I love this thing. It was a nine for me.

It was, I got to see a Zadi Pike in action. We got a very likable version of Yehara, which, again, I didn't get that from the previews. Oh, by the way, um, Spock misses his sister. Yeah. Burn him. Yeah. I'm kind of hoping though that's the last time they refer to it. Right. Because not because I don't think it's an important part of his story. I just think they need to move on and let strange new worlds be its own thing. Right. And the less's be talking about discovery and how bad it's gotten. Yeah.

Well, I don't think it's that. I think it's just, to me, if you keep bringing it up, then you're basing the show around that. Yeah. I mean, like, the other thing too is like, I know there's a lot of new listeners, hopefully, that are tuning into this and listening to this for the first time.

And I don't want to be like like we're back. Right. No, no, totally. Yeah, sure. Like we have strong opinions on discovery that we haven't fully discussed on the show. You know, personally, I've been very disappointed with it lately. But I think there's a whole bunch of reasons. Yeah. Why? And this isn't the time or place to discuss fair. That's fair. To explain all those things, we would need a higher different series. Yeah. But Drew, what about you, man? I'm tempted to give it a nine. I really enjoyed what we saw. I've been a fan of Pike since the first moment, handsome mount took the chair. I love what he does

with the character. Um, Ethan Peck, I think is really coming to his own spot. And, you know, hopefully we get to see a little bit more of, uh, uh, number one going forward. She really kind of had a very small role, uh, in this episode. But I'm not sure if, if I, I'm giving it a nine because I got to sit here and enjoy it with you guys and it was a whole thing. Or if, uh, you know, it's just kind of got swept up in the hype of the episode, or if it's just, it really was that good, but I really enjoyed it. And I'm just going to go with it. And, uh, you know, I, I want to watch this again.

Me too. I would watch this episode again. I would. Like tonight, if I could, you know, I can't. No. So, so I mean, like, you know, in comparison to like other stuff that we've watched recently, you know, yeah, this is I'm going to go with the night. All right, what about you, Brett? So I was kind of in the mentality of going through it and trying to think of like, do I really want to give it such a high score for our first episode in this series? Yeah.

really want to give it such a high score for our first episode in this series. Yeah. That would potentially set that every single episode would have to be perfect in a sense in order for it to be like a high score. There were some flaw points that were kind of just ridiculously silly for no reason to manufacture drama. Sure. Like as much as I enjoyed it, the the whole manufacture drama where they beam the two scientists up and the one like You know the the sleeper effect didn't like take hold and so what like one of them ran through the ship

That was kind of that was so manufacture drama and then when they finally get the serum to fix spot they Beam it down into his eyes. Is that what that was? I didn't get that. Yeah, it wasn't it. I think it just implied they beamed it into him. Yeah, and it reflected in his eye. I don't know.

So, thinking about the entirety of the whole episode, there was a little cheese. And so I think I think I'm at an eight. I just want to make sure that when you're reviewing this and the comments that you have aren't just you being nipicky. Well, so I mean, like here's the thing is like, yes, I 100% agree with everything that you said. And I think on our normal circumstances, I would probably use that against the episode. But I don't know, man.

Like, I don't think any of them had long-term consequences to my enjoyment of it. Yeah. No, no, I don't disagree. But I feel like if this series is setting the pace and tone, that there's going to be episodes in there that I'm going to like more. Yeah.

And should I change mine to an eight then? No. You do what you feel is better than that. And to me though, what if I do an 8.5? I will, I will. You will sleep. You will sleep there. Yeah, I won't do anything.

All right, well, I mean, if you change to the 8.5. 8.45 is reasonable. That's fair. Yeah, because I mean, like I understand the rationale for leaving a little bit of room on the top. Like, don't give me wrong. Like I really enjoyed this episode. Like this was like far, it was a nice, fresher breath there.

This was the most fun I've had with the Star Trek episode in a while. I wasn't asking you that next. Like if you had to take a look at all the modern. So we have discovery. We have now strange new worlds and we have Picard. See, like the one that we have coming out? Well lower decks. Well, well, I was just keep a live action.

Okay. So all the modern live action shows you got, how would you rank this one? It's just not enough body award. Well, first episode. I think there is. Because like to me, when I compared to like discovery and Picard, this is a very high episode.

And the only thing I feel went above this were the episodes and discovery where mud was in there. And those two episodes were hilarious. Well, just this first episode aside, how would you rank the first episode of each of those series against this one? Oh, God, this would be like a 10.

If you compare those between discovery and Picard, this to me is a 10. This is a better pilot, yeah. Okay, if you look at, forget about the pilot part, and if you just look at the first episode of each season of each season for Picard, each season for Discovery, this is a definite 10 for you. Yeah, because I, listen, I told you,

I told you I tried to watch Picard twice. I can't get, I't gotten through it. There's a lot of talking. There's a lot of dialogue heaviness, you know, you know what? I'm gonna go with the night actually. All right. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, because to your point though, is that like, I am nitpicking, which is, because that's, he's unfortunately dead. Yeah, I'll take you to my score back, dammit. Man, you are sheep. My hand. No, the whole point though is like,

I'm nitpicking to a point where I'm trying to find the things I didn't care for when I really did enjoy this episode. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of where I was coming from. Originally. So maybe, you know what, I think, definite, I'm good with this all at night. Because you know what, it was fun. It was fun.

Yeah, it's just locking in now because I'm not letting you change the plan. Yeah, I'm not changing it in this version. But like, I just like, yeah, we can nitpick. And yes, like, I think there will come a point where we probably will, right? But I think like for today sitting down in the sofa with you guys watching this show, like I was I was just wrapped up in the episode and everything that they did. And yes, it was flawed. It was imperfect.

There were things that just were done for the sake of television. But it was still fun. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't tease this this big bad at the end of the season. No, I'm so glad that there does not appear to be a galactic ending event. Right. Yeah, which is, again, it's a... There's only so many things, like you can only have so many galactic events. Right. It just becomes ridiculous.

Right. And like, there's still drop in seeds of like an overarching story with Pike going through the stuff that he's- Pike is so haunted, I love it, he's flawed. And like, we have a sing who, you know, that name is trouble in Star Trek, Connunian Sing. What?

Yeah, so Nunean Singh is the last name of Khan Who we will see in space seed wrath of Khan start our trip get the hell out of here. You serious? Yeah, yes Wow, so there's something that's gonna go down with that. Oh, wow. That's don't know what but it's there I'm loving that you know and and Khan is is one of those Genetically enhanced humans. So Singh is also genetically enhanced well. So, sing is also genetically enhanced? Well, we don't know. By Nappy. And then there's also a ton of threads that have tied

Nunean's soon. Yes. Data's creator. Singin' soon. Right. There's a ton of threads, some a little bit more overt than others. And I'm avoiding spoilers intentionally here. But yeah, they've tied that in as well. So like, I'm looking forward to seeing how the series develops. I'm looking forward to

learning the new characters. I'm really really excited to see more information on the characters we already know. I mean I mean, I think you know It's really funny. I know it's a fan favorite. Spock is the one that I'm least interested in in the series Yeah, isn't he he's not trying to have him so much in TOS The he's not trying to emulate anything that Leninimo did no no I think acting wise Ethan Pack is doing a fabulous job. Yeah, but but I to what Brad's point is is like we've already gone down that road with Spock.

Spock is the one we need the least. Sure. Um, learning about the history and like, um, knowing the character. I mean, I'm sure from what it looks like, they're going to go into more about Spock because they, they start off with him getting proposed. Right. And I would like to, I wouldn't be against learning more, but there's all these other characters

I want to learn more about, like number one, Pike, Nurse Chapel. I'm saying, give me all of it. Yeah, exactly. It's just, to me, you know what, even Uhura, like I would much rather have her take priority over Spock. Yeah, they haven't really done much

with her in the original series yet. Yeah, so like, unless they change things drastically, like in, in TOS, like I've almost zero knowledge about her as a character in the original series. Did um so her performance now we've gotten the original which was the show Nichols. Yeah. And we've gotten Zoe Sadana. Oh Zoe Sadana.

Sorry. Listen, Zoe Sadana in any color. I'm all there for it. But um we got Zoe Sadana. We got the show Nichols. And then we have the new actress. I'm all there for it. But we as always, Adana, we got the show Nichols. And then we have this the new actress. I don't know. It's a silly a good thing, I think. Sure. Um, so Zoys Adana said that she took inspiration from the show Nichols. It doesn't look like this new actress is trying to emulate

anything that the show Nichols did. Yeah. It doesn't look like it looks like a different thing. Think about the US. We're watching. It's very soft spoken. Right. But I mean, this one seems to have a sense of humor. She seems to be light. She's having a conversation with the with the prisoner.

No, is that well, is that her, you know, being different? Or is it that we haven't really been exposed enough to the two S or 12 episodes into TOS with our OG, Yehara. And I've gotten more from this very first episode of Discovery, oh, that Discovery, strange new worlds, and this new or her and I've learned so much more about this Youhara than I have in 12 episodes. Actress's name is Celia Gooding, by the way. Celia Gooding.

I was close. Any relation to Cuba goodin? Uh, that I do not know. Okay. But I understand like where you're coming from, but I also feel like if you think about how much air, airtime she's gone in this, she has probably twice as much air time in this episode, then a lot of the TOS. Um, that's true. Even if you take away her, um, elevator, turbo elevator conversation with the prisoner away, and you kind of just, that line she had where, uh,

where she's on a bridge and, and Pike is talking and Pike's like, yeah, we're gonna go kick some ass and take names and chew bubble gum or all that bubble gum. And her was like, yes. That shows a lot more personality than the original show. I get it, but I think you have to, again, it's like the TUS did a really poor job of focusing on her. And I want you to say it's like I'm not disagreeing

with you like I really like this this version a lot. I'm just saying like I feel like they unfortunately the original series really neglected that opportunity. Sure. But but I do agree um overall gentlemen though a good good first episode wouldn't you say yeah yeah I think it's made all the all the better that you know, we're just here together doing this Yeah, I mean this this couldn't have worked out better. Yeah, you know Brad being up here for Party yesterday the debut of the show and then you know the special day of course we can't forget his mother's day Yeah, of course and and in Dax's birthday birthday, Dax's birthday, your birthday next month, he's sitting right next to me.

He's having a nice snuggle. Drew looks like a supervillain right now. Drew's having a wonderful time scratching his butt. Wait, no, no, he's scratching the cat's butt, guys. That's make sure we have that differential statement there. Well, gentlemen, shall we say good night? Yeah, let's. Yeah, I'm still awake.

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