Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 014: (SNW S01E04) Memento Mori
Episode Date: May 31, 2022This week The Gang watches Star Trek: Strange New Worlds episode "Memento Mori." Drew and Brad take a back seat to this episode while Majeed hosts right after a rigorous morning work out. The episode ...has something to do about the Gorn, there is a brown thingie too, not really sure what's going on, a bit distracted right now with how much energy Majeed has. I'm pretty sure the crew of the Enterprise survives. Listen in and find out what the show was about! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Instagram | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at YetAnotherSTPod@gmail.com! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau
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Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of yet another Star Trek podcast.
If you can't tell, I'm pumped.
My name is Majeed, I'm pumped.
We're recording super early in the morning today.
I just got back from the gym, I have a nice post workout high, and I'm going to share my
energy with my two cohorts, Drew and Brad for the evening.
Drew, you there, buddy?
Yeah, I'm a little confused.
I don't know who is this?
This is Brad for the evening of the Jeep.
I have been, so we've been doing this together
for this is our 14th episode.
I have never heard this much energy from you
the entire time that we've done this.
So, are you okay?
What kind of pre-workout did you shake?
So, in the morning.
If someone is like, how's your abducted,
say, banana, and we'll go, we'll get help.
Oh God, I did have, so thank you, Brett.
That's a dimer.
Anyway, so, I'm up at five o'clock in the morning.
Normally, I'm up at five o'clock in the morning. Normally, I'm up at five o'clock in the morning.
And I'm in the gym normally at maybe 6'15, 6'30.
I'm in the gym.
I'm start working out to scoops of pre workout, my creatine,
and I kind of, I get all this out.
It is 11 o'clock in the morning right now.
You and I, we normally record at what, nine? I ate at the clock? Eight o'clock at the morning right now. You and I, we normally record at what, nine?
I ate a clock?
Eight o'clock at PM, yeah.
Right, so, no one ate PM.
I am drained.
My energy level, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel.
So, you got me at like a post workout high.
So, you know, enjoy this because you may not see it
until we record again in the morning.
Maybe we should just record recording the morning all the time
Hmm
Maybe
And then we have my my Atlanta friend Brad Brad. How are you buddy? I'm doing swell. Thank you for asking you
You can't say Brad for the evening because it's morning. So you're Brad for the morning
That's sure. It's true. I'm Brad for the morning today. I mean, to be fair,
we don't actually know what dimension breads in. So it could still be evening
where he is. I could be in a time, a different time zone. Yeah. He is a time
traveler and multiplier. Mm hmm. Yeah. Um, he is Legion. He is Brad.
You know what? I'll just I'll just go with that. That's that sounds correct.
Guys, so happy Memorial Day. Today's Memorial Day, 2022, guys. Yeah. You know what, I'll just go with that. That sounds correct.
Guys, so happy Memorial Day.
Today's Memorial Day, 2022, guys.
Yeah.
You have anything planned after we're done?
My parents are coming over.
We had a small gathering yesterday.
So that's part of the reason why I'm so exhausted.
But yeah, today just my parents are going to come over
and then just do a little
bit of editing and probably watch a ballgame.
All right.
What about you, uh, Brady, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, perking.
All kidding.
Oh, they said you're kidding.
Okay. No, no appreciate that. Thank you.
Yeah, and for everyone out there at turkey burgers, I have to eat turkey burgers because it's
just better for me. Have you ever tried a black bean burger?
It would depend. No, I've never tried one and I would be willing and open the
try one depending on the amount of protein, the amount of carbs, just the nutritional value
it depends. So I'd be open to it.
The take a look at the Morningstar ones,
not that they're sponsoring the podcast or anything,
but they're pretty good.
They could, they could.
They could.
This episode potentially sponsored by Morningwind.
Morningstar.
Morningwind.
That's just what happened before you jumped on the air.
Morningwind is when you wake up and just start farting uncontrolled.
So that was me last night after four beers.
Oh, buddy.
It's been a rough night.
Well, you poor wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I will try some morning wood.
When God.
Star? Morning star. But yeah, okay. Let's, I think we should morning wood. Wood. God. Star?
Morning star.
Yeah, OK.
Let's, I think we should move on to this point.
I'm so used to saying the word morning wood
for unknown reasons.
Anyway, so I'm excited, guys.
I'm super excited.
I'm pumped.
This week, we watched the first two episodes of All We Want
Kenobi, and we've been waiting for this for so long
It takes place in between episodes what three and episodes four and the time where Obi-Wan Kenobi is is is in exile
Brad do you like do you want I haven't I haven't
Watch that show yet. Should we tell them? I
Think I think you may have watched the wrong TV series.
Are we not talking about Obi-Wan?
Kenobi this week?
No.
No.
Or Stranger Things, even though it's like our release, too.
Ooh, I have not finished Stranger Things episode
or season three.
All right, well, that changed things.
I think we're watching a different entirely sci-fi
series altogether. I've changed his things. I'm going to have to pivot a little bit. What's Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.
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You know what?
We still watch a pretty good episode of, of, of strange
the Worlds.
By the way guys, I don't want to bury the lead here, but in this series it's so much better
than I thought it would be.
Agreed.
I expected a good solid show.
I didn't expect a show that was going to be this solid.
Star Trek has a history of having week season one,
season basically just in their entirety, right?
And certainly not four back-to-back strong episodes. This is like knocking it out of the park.
Yeah.
I remember watching season one of Discovery
and thinking, man, what is this show gonna pick up?
And for me, season one of discovery didn't pick up until the mid season break, where you
kind of get that twist and it's a whole different show.
With Picard, I couldn't even get through.
I can't.
I have not finished the first episode of Picard, but I'm all on board for a strange new
world. episode of Picard. But I'm all on board for Strange New Worlds.
I feel like there's a certain amount of energy that Strange New Worlds really takes and pushes.
And it's not like a full-on, continued storyline through each episode. There's, you know,
a continued storyline through each episode. There's, you know,
you know, bread crumbs,
hints and pieces here and there,
but it does like such a good job
of giving these very self-contained episodes
that you don't need to watch the previous episode
to truly understand what's going on.
I'm quite surprised with how well it's been going.
Yeah, and so I think Drew and I,
and we've talked about this before in the past,
this show, when Daddy Pike came on on Discovery Season 2,
there was no intent on giving him his own show, right?
Like that wasn't the intent.
No, not that I'm aware of.
Right, so for them to turn around and come out with a show
that not only focuses on the aftermath of what
he went through in season two of Discovery,
but focusing on his crew or every single story
that we've seen so far, what have we gotten to sing
in this episode or number, and Yehura,
everybody has had solid arc, solid stories.
It's fantastic.
It's a little weird having the ensemble cast
getting their stories so early in the series as well too.
In previous Star Trek, first of all,
you had larger seasons, so 26 plus episodes in a season,
you kind of had to flesh it out, but for the most part, the main character was the Captain, right?
Our Janeway, Cisco, Archer, whomever. And you would only get those other little side stories about,
you know, the rest of the bridge crew kind of sprinkled in here and there, but it was always kind of
going back to the captain. But this one, like so far, four episodes in and we've had four
completely different stories that, well, it's still a crew problem that's being solved, like
you're definitely deep diving into,
you know, one or two characters specifically
in each episode.
Yeah, yeah, and, you know, again,
Kirk in season one of,
of, you know, the original series,
he's putting himself on the line.
He's with the landing party every single time. Yeah. And Pike hasn't been doing that. Pike has been, you know, he's been in command.
I think that's because he is like the star of the show in the original series.
Yeah. Oh, Kirk Spock. Yeah, Kirk Spock and McCoy were that like main pivotal,
they got top billing, everybody else was just sub.
There was a whole point of discussion in next generation though between Will Riker and
Captain Picard. Because Captain Picard was like, oh, you know, I'll go down on the away mission
and Riker's like, no, you're not. And that was something that kind of carried through,
I would say a little bit, you know, into some of the other
Out series as well too, not a hundred percent, but you know, it was there. Well, I'm excited to to eventually get into
Enterprise but wait, is it in price? No next generation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and we have to get to the movies first
We have to get through what six movies. I'd like to. I mean that would be that would be my goal I think the movies first, right? We have to get through what? Six movies? I'd like to. I mean, that would be, that would be my goal.
I think the movies are worth watching.
Yeah, the more we learn about Sing, right?
And her relationship, her, what,
she's akin to a con.
Yeah.
Granddaughter.
Yeah, I have to, I'll have to confirm that,
but that sounds about right.
Yeah, but she has some lineage. She has
lineage. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I'm excited because they're wevenous and ancestors. She's not a
grandfather, but it is, it is an ancestor. Okay. And Khan is already well known at this point of because of the year. Well, so if we're going chronologically,
we have not met Khan in Star Trek yet.
He'll be coming up on Kirk's Enterprise,
which happens after this.
But Khan, as a character, has already existed,
because he was like cryogenically frozen and they basically
thought him out 100 or 200 years after he had been frozen.
So it's a thing.
It's kind of a thing.
So without coming into this boiler territory, but I am curious now that you said that.
The story of Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness
with the Calvin Timeline versus the story of Khan overall.
How is that similar, is that the same?
Did he have a crew of 100 people stuck in torpedoes?
They weren't in torpedoes, no, they were on a ship.
I called the body back.
Yeah, like I thought the whole movie
was like startfully doing the torpedoes back. Yeah, like I thought the whole movie was like
startfully doing the torpedoes thing.
Yeah.
Well, that's, weren't they like launching
the torpedoes at the Klingons or something to?
Yeah, because there was like some sort of
super weapon, I remember correctly.
Well, they were the super weapon.
In a, in a, in the Calvin timeline or the original?
Calvin. Calvin.
Gotcha. Kelvin. Gotcha. Well, it's trying not to think of the Abrams movies
in these terms.
I'm not saying dismiss them entirely,
because I mean, I enjoyed them.
But when we're talking like Prime Universe,
those movies don't exist.
Think that they just basically use the original series
as like source material and then changed
a whole bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But remember that's my entry into the series though.
Like that's how I got...
Oh yeah, yeah, no.
I'm just...
I would say other than the names, everything else has been changed.
Gotcha.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
Some of the behaviors are similar but for the most part, like it's a bit different.
Yeah, I mean like basically, basically imagine, like,
if you're first entry into the Marvel universe,
was the MCU and not the comics.
It's not basically your entry into comics is the MCU?
Me?
Yeah.
No, I don't read the Marvel comics.
I don't really read comics at all.
But you watch the MCU, though.
I have, yeah.
So that would be the same thing with, yeah, for Drew.
So it's like the opposite for us, because you and I
grew up on comics, we're comics today, opposite, right?
Yeah, I told my wife, we want to go see Dr. Strange.
And again, I won't do Dr. Strange spoilers.
But she had issues with some of the themes in the movie.
I won't, again, I won't go with the spoilers. But she had issues with some of the themes in the movie. I won't, again,
I won't go with the spoilers, but she had issues with some of the themes and she's like, well,
I don't understand this. This is evil. This is demonic. And I'm like, oh, well, you know, in the
comics, it's, you know, X, Y, and Z. And she's like, well, the normal person wouldn't know that.
Well, you know, that's why you ask. That's why you ask. That's what they're trying to do. That's the interest to get you engaged, to get you talking, to get you
anticipated, you know, the next move. But I digress. I'm sorry. We went off into a tangent.
That's what we do. Yeah, this is this is post workout me going off into a tangent and I'm sorry.
I think you're actually like causing time travel
as we speak because you're talking like
twice as fast as you normally talk.
So I see I can actually see.
I can actually see not getting a dimerad for this.
I can actually see I can see two brads forming
in Brad's webcam because you're talking so fast, Magid.
That's just pack a lot of brads.
Oh.
Oh. How has he not been given a dimerad for that Magid? talking so fast, Majid. That's just packing lots of breaths. Oh! Wow!
How has it not been given a dimmer for that Majid?
Let me come on.
Because I love him more than you.
To be clear. For this week's episode, you watched Memento Mori.
The tenant's saying in a crew of the Enterprise travels to a colony planet for a routine supply
mission.
Immediately upon arrival, they discovered that the colony was under attack by an unknown
enemy.
The crew quickly discovered survivors on board a cargo vessel used to transport radioactive
ore.
Unfortunately, they are forced to dock with a cargo vessel due to its protective shielding.
While seeing assist, the survivors off the ship, she realizes what happened to the
colony.
Quickly taking action, she warned the bridge and struck them to raise the shields.
Due to the cargo ship being connected, they are unable to do so in our attack by the alien
race known as the Gorn.
I had to do research on the Gorn going in.
Well, after hearing that man, I'm like, it's so familiar.
I, you know what's funny?
I was kind of surprised by... All I know is the...
I think they were in an episode of Enterprise,
but I really remember from the original series
because it's like such a famous scene
for when Kirk fights the Gorn.
Were they in Enterprise? I haven't seen that episode.
I think they were.
Apparently the Gorn were a big presence in the Enterprise,
but Kirk also fought them on the battle planet,
the arena planet.
I think the title of the episode was called arena.
I believe so.
I believe so, yeah.
And that was what season three?
Uh, no.
Let me find out.
Let me see what you can find.
And by the way, didn't the Gorn alien race show up
as a bounty hunter in the original
Star Wars movie?
Yeah, that looks spot on, doesn't it?
Pretty close.
Arena is season one.
Season one?
Okay, great.
So we'll get to it at some point.
Yeah.
But again, Brad, that alien race, right?
It shows up in Star Wars, right?
That's one of the bounty hunters.
Thanks to BobaFat.
Yeah, yeah, it looks spot on to that.
It really looks.
Yeah.
Frank's can also confirm.
Yeah, I feel like Frank's is gonna get like a rage out.
Right.
Yeah, he's gonna rage out in the next boss.
He's gonna know specifically like the name of the species, that character's name and everything. No, he's gonna fake out in the name. He's gonna know specifically the name of the species,
that character's name and everything.
No, he's gonna fake it till he makes it.
That's kind of...
And that come out with a dad joke about it.
Um...
Where are you surprised that we didn't actually see
the gorn this week and did that make it better for you?
I feel like it's kind of leading up to this will be a reoccurring enemy in the series.
And I'm quite okay with that actually.
Because to me, the gorn is such a very, you, you, unknown enemy and it gives them base
upon the descriptions of being just killers,
you know, things just looking for meat to eat.
It just gives them a certain impression that you don't really have to relate with them.
And enemy, you can just fight.
So, I mean, here's the thing that I was kind of concerned with, right?
Like the original series costume, a little cheesy, right?
I think it's well done, but for the 60s, I think
they did the best that they could. Star Trek has really evolved their makeup game over
the past 50-something years, and their makeup teams have won awards for, you know, makeup in NextGen, DeepSpace9, all
that stuff.
So they have the potential to do, like, incredible makeup on the Gorn, and I am just terrified
that they're just going to see G the characters.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was my fear.
Yeah, that was my fear as well. So I am quite glad that they didn't show them not only because of that reason, but I think it was way more effective.
They took like the jaws approach, you know, yeah, the was an episode where, man, where Pike was
over the communicator talking to an enemy.
Yeah, it was the one with the comet.
Yes, children of the comet.
It's children of the comet.
Yeah, children of the comet.
Children of the comet.
Yeah, right.
So was that enemy CG as well?
I'm pretty sure it was.
Okay. I mean, it looked well.
It looked well done. I mean, it didn't find job, but it just, it stands out. When you have these beautiful
beautiful sets, awesome costumes, you know, amazing special effects, and then you have a CG character,
it just, it loses something to me. Yeah, speaking of losing something,
and speaking of sets, buddy.
When we get back to the original series,
Oh my God.
I'm gonna be so upset looking at how dull the lighting
and just the overall design of the ship is.
Compared to what they've done in strange new worlds
with the bridge.
Yeah. Like it's so, it's, it honors what they've done in stradging the worlds with the bridge. Yeah, like it it's so it's it honors what we've seen before
But yet it's it's so updated with the lights and all that
They brought it into the 21st century
Right, right, and we're gonna simultaneously get a downgrade. Yeah, I think to your point homogeneity
Thinking about this episode, I noticed when
Spock was trying to touch the control panels, they did a very good job of trying to interpret
the controls that he was trying to access so that it felt very similar to the original
series.
Because they did a close-up where it's like buttons, and it looked like physical buttons
he was trying to touch.
And, because I know that's like a similar thing
when it came to like Star Wars
when they were trying to like update the ships,
but they also wanted to give that similar feel.
So I think they're doing a good job
with trying to keep that level of a setisism.
So that it really matches still, trying to keep that level of setisism.
So it really matches still, even though you're filming it in 2022,
versus the 1950s and 60s type thing.
Yeah, you have to be able to be like,
well, this is the technology that we saw
in the original at this point versus we try to do it now.
Rogue One, Star Wars Rogue One to quickly pivot back
to Star Wars.
Star Wars Rogue One takes place immediately
before a new hope, but yet it honors
kind of the visual aesthetics of what we saw in a new hope.
So that was a really good transition.
Yeah. Just a really good transition. Yeah.
Just a really overall good movie, often underrated.
So I think Star Wars can get away with it a little bit easier,
though, because everything in Star Wars is dirty, grungy,
used, and have to get them right.
Easy, easy, easy, easy.
It's a compliment.
I mean, is it?
It is, because it feels lived in, you know,
whereas the federation is very sparkly and sterile and clean.
Well, it's maintained, you know.
Speaking of just really quick,
speaking of Star Wars, again,
last time I'm gonna promise I'll move back
out with the synopsis.
The opening intro of Star Trek, you know, where
we see the kind of the title and it's the Star Trek, I guess, the whole...
Oh, the love verse? Yeah. Star Wars did something similar.
So did Marvel's. Right. And actually...
And actually. Right. But the one that Star Wars did compared to the one that Star Trek did, they are very much,
they feel almost the same.
With the ship flying around, then it comes out.
Star Wars, this one is the first time I saw it in front of the Obi-Wan Kenobi episode,
so when you see it, don't skip that title sequence.
Did they do a new one?
Yeah, they did a new one.
No.
It reminds me of what they did for start after a peacemaker
I've been trying to watch all the intros
Cat peacemaker there was nobody's gonna top the intro for peacemaker. Oh, no, no
Yeah, that was by far the best and trouble ever seen in a PC and this is this is the part of the podcast where a jewel try to put
That song in the back of the episode. Yep right here. Do you really want to me want to taste it? Oh, no
I was gonna transition to our one of our theme songs so we can get back on top
Not bad
So you don't want to taste it. Okay got it The Enterprise badly damaged head towards a brown dwarf that is being sucked into a black
hole in an attempt to hide.
However, this is only a temporary reprieve due to the gourd ship following them.
Through quick thinking, the crew used their one and only photon torpedo
to damage the gourd chip. This turns up and be-
This turned up and be-
Oh right, they did destroy it. Yeah, they destroyed the gourd chip. I'm like, oh cool.
Episode's over, right? No, no.
Well, no, that's what I said to myself. Yeah, I am.
Sim here.
And I look at, you know, how much time we have left
and it's like halfway through.
I said, oh, okay, well, something else is going to happen.
And something did.
Yeah.
It turns out this was a trap and several more gourd ships,
even better, come into view.
Yeah.
The crew risked the enterprise being crushed
by going deeper towards the core of the Brown dwarf.
Thankfully, so do the
Gorn, destroying one of their own ships. Sing and Spock take a shuttle into the
atmosphere and attempt to find a location of the other Gorn ships. They
discover the two ships use some sort of light communication between each other.
Sing comments that the light patterns mean something but can't remember what.
Spock mind melts with singing,
but she was a child.
So, I'd go back to memory when she was a child,
and to go and attack when she was on the,
what, Puget sound?
I think that's how you say it, yeah.
Puget sound, okay, it just sounds like, you know,
a place where there's gonna be...
At first, I thought it was like, Punget,
and it was like, no, that's probably not right.
I might need to might be, who knows? Maybe knows maybe maybe have you ever smelled long Island sound this kind of
Pungent. Oh god. It's very there is very pugent. Okay
So
Through information and receive from the my meldy device a plane to get to the door
To get the door and destroy one of her own ships. Gorn, not Michael Dorn, not Michael Dorn.
Gorn.
I would love Michael Dorn to destroy the Gorn though.
I was watching Major League and one of the characters is Roger Dorn.
So that's a mistake.
I think this is actually one of the parts of the episode that kind of bothered me.
It was unnecessary.
It was. There was absolutely zero need to do it.
It was just kind of like that filler.
It was cool.
And then the other thing too was that,
for you remember, Crackley, in the original series,
we talked about specifically the first time
Spock attempted to do a mind-melb with a human.
And then this is like before that. So technically this is the first time he
attempted to do a mind-melb with a human. Yeah, Spock is a liar.
What? It is illogical for the folk and to lie.
Except when it's convenient. Well, at that point it's logical.
Sorry.
I don't know, Drew, you don't have the energy to deal with my nonsense today.
Then I still love you.
I love you, too.
I love you, too.
I have the power to edit you.
That's why you don't get to merits.
Oh, the truth comes out.
All right, so back on the enterprise,
they discovered that the brown dwarf will soon be sucked
into the black hole.
Pike devices a plan to use this to their advantage,
along with a device on board that was soon explode.
The enterprise heads towards a black hole
while ejecting a malfunctioning a piece of equipment.
Ultimately, the shoying and fooling the gore
to think the enterprise was destroyed, thus saving the day.
I mean, saving the day is kind of misleading, right?
Cause they were lost.
Would it head on?
Oh, totally. Yeah, would it head on battle? They would have lost. Would have had on. Totally.
Yeah, would have had on battle, they would have lost.
And if you see how damaged the enterprise was,
there was no way.
They're getting their ass whooped.
Yeah, badly.
Like, just really badly.
Like my legs all day.
Anyway, to sum up this episode,
the Gorn are Brutal and Relentless.
And this was the first human mind-built.
Brat, I'm sorry, I can't say this last time.
Go for it, man, go for it.
Did you just add this? No, I totally did. I did this for myself last time because I loved it.
I was like, all this is so wrong. All right. And according to Brad, if you're happy, you know it, clap your hands.
I didn't hear the clap.
Anyway, if you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
Clap, clap.
All right.
I can't believe you made me do this.
Because the hand got crushed by the thing
in the end of the year.
Oh, well, we didn't even talk about you.
Yeah.
And what was his name.
Hammer.
Hammer, hammer.
Hammer?
Hammer gets his hand crushed, yeah.
He does.
You could have made a Will Crusher joke.
Will?
There is no Will Crusher.
Is that his name?
Will we eat him Crusher?
Wesley.
Don't do this to me cut that cut that cut that cut that cut that
So guys, what do you think with the episode overall? I
Was quite surprised with this episode
Honestly like it it took me
of the one of the
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The other thing too is that when they
Focused on her I was also expecting it more on her ancestry with
Con but they didn't which which is actually a very pleasant surprise and it was more on her own personal history
Rather than foreshadowing or sorry not overshadowing with a calm.
Yeah, I mean, they've kind of just like, they've acknowledged the fact that she's a descendant of him,
but they haven't really leaned into it as like a writing crutch yet.
I'm still waiting for the hint. I am too, but I'm also kind of like waiting for the hammer to drop.
If that makes sense, you know, like I have to imagine like just there's a reason she's got that name, right?
So we're gonna find out sooner or later there's something going on there. And it can't just be like, oh, you know, my great-grandfather was kind of a dick.
You know, that's not gonna suffice. So we'll see. But as far as the episode goes,
really enjoyed this one.
I don't think I've been
this tense with the Star Trek episode in a long time.
Yeah, it was tense.
I mean, again, you know that everyone's gonna make it out.
Of course.
And by the way, a red shirt did not die, right?
There was a blue shirt.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, it was.
We're still not doing so great
on the CM Kirk is Kenny Theory.
He's still in a coma.
He's in a coma.
There's even shop, is that possible?
No, he hasn't seen him since he got launched
across the Cromit.
Yeah, he's still in a coma.
There was a lot going on.
So we had the main A storyline,
which was the attack by the Gorn,
and then playing, you know, hide and seek.
We had the B story of Yehura and Hammer,
and then we had a C storyline of number one
and Dr. Magunto.
What is his name?
Embattu.
Manga.
Manga.
I was so close, that was my third one.
So we had the A, B, and C storylines.
And I didn't care much at first about number one and Manga.
And then I was like, oh, that's kind of sweet.
He gave blood to help her. But didn't we establish that she can
just heal herself with light? Apparently, apparently just not with stabby things or something.
I don't know. Well, no, because it was like too deep and she wasn't able to recover.
But I did find interesting with like nurse chapel and when they're trying to talk about helping number one
Bango was kind of like oh you you had an interest in was it ancient
healing techniques just went that
referring to like our methods are a lot more
barbaric compared to theirs.
Yeah, so so that's something that Star Trek does quite a bit.
It's like, oh, when they refer to something in our time, it's ancient.
And it's just like, come on, you don't need to do that.
Just because you're 400 years in the future doesn't mean that, you know,
a suture is ancient.
Dude, you teenagers this these days are like,
man, it's 10 years old, that's ancient.
I know.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
Stop, don't do that because.
Yeah, you're living this right now.
Right, we're not me.
All of us are living this right now.
Mr. I have all these Nintendo 64 games,
or what was your,
Turbo Graphics, right?
Turbo Graphics.
Turbo Graphics, what is it called?
Don't read that sign.
I mean, we're all going through it.
You know, the classic consoles for us,
are NES, Super NES, Genesis,
PlayStation's now 20 years old, right?
25 years old.
We're living it right now, that's all agents.
If I showed it to my daughter right now,
she's not gonna like it.
Payphones are not existing to New York anymore.
Yeah.
Yeah, where the Superman change.
Where this Clark Kent change in Superman,
we don't know.
We don't have these answers anymore.
Do you even have a house phone anymore?
Like I don't.
No, no, there's no lane line.
What's the point?
My cable company is like, hey, try out the voice.
No, why?
What's the point?
I saw him the other day. It was like, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna
fax it over to you. And the guy's like, I'm sorry, I can't accept faxes where I live. Well,
why not? Well, Sharon, I live in 2022. I don't accept faxes in 2022. Yeah. Yeah.
It's just, sorry.
Listen, all ancient and thing, it hit me too.
I get it.
It's like we said before, old man yelling up the clouds.
Right.
Yeah.
How did you guys feel about the submarine battle around that dwarf planet.
It was tense, right?
It felt like, like in modern Star Trek we've so often gone to the very action-packed fight
sequences and they're fun to watch, but there's just something about that submarine battle.
And this is like straight out of Star Trek 2, Brad.
I know you remember that.
Yeah.
It really reminded me of, what was it,
I'm hunt for the Red October?
Very much so.
And it did a very good job in portraying the tension,
and not making it overly comical.
Mm-hmm.
Because that's one of the problems
that I've found in previous Trek episodes when they do stuff like that. It's like it's a waiting game and
they're just like super intense and it feels very off. Yeah. This one didn't
like honestly though like watching this entire episode it felt like a mini
movie. It really did. Yeah, it really did. The pacing was excellent. It moved along.
The stakes were high. The stakes was excellent. It moved along.
The stakes were high. The stakes were high, but they weren't unreasonable.
Like, if Hammer died, have Hammer died, I wouldn't have, I would have been unhappy with that. Yeah, but he's also not in the original series. Right. So, Hammer and Ortega's, if they die,
Hema and or Tegas, if they die, you know, it's expected.
It just a matter of when for me. Because to me, they're not in the later episodes
or not in anything.
They just gotta reassigned though.
That doesn't mean anything.
No, isn't though like number one, chapel,
all of them, except the only one people that you know are safe are Spock, Pike and O'Hara.
No, no, no.
Only ones you know it's fine too.
Chapples was she ever in, oh she was in the enterprise was.
Okay, so she's in a bunch of episodes.
But so here's the other thing too is that while we say that they are safe we don't necessarily
know they really are and I say that only because I mean Pike maybe you get a pass but if you think
about in discovery hum hum huge eyes and they bring them back so It's a little like, oh, all right.
The Anthony Michael Hall?
No.
No.
Oh, his husband.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
I like him.
I can't think of standards.
I can see that as Anthony Michael Hall.
That is pretty similar.
That is, that's the actor, right?
No, it's not.
No, no, it's a different actor.
Anthony Rapp.
I was close. I had you were close you were close
But he they did it for you were they killed him off and then he comes back and so I guess technically
You know it doesn't necessarily mean that the person come back
I mean you could always argue that oh they they replaced her with a clone or something like that. So you don't technically know anybody's really safe,
but chances are they probably are.
Well, by that logic, Pike can also come back.
True.
I mean, I'm just going under the impression
that everybody in the main cast is with us
until further notice.
And if somebody does bite the bullet,
like, maybe it's going to be Sam Kirk.
Maybe it'll have some impact, you know, like
killing characters off in Star Trek happens but it's rare. It's not a, it's not like a weekly
occurrence or at least it shouldn't be honestly you weren't sure. Yeah, so anyways, like I'm looking
through the like the episodes of the watch so far.
I just really want to know who directed this episode.
Dan Liu.
I don't think I've ever recognized him directing, but I really hope he directs more episodes.
To me, it was just so, I was blown away with how well the overall episode was.
Yeah, pacing was really well done.
Yeah.
I think he's done some work on the Walking Dead, so that kind of makes sense.
Oh, the show that everyone watched until he was in 10.
So he was the editor of the Walking Dead from 2011 to 2019.
So some of the best directors cut their teeth under better directors.
For example, Guy Richie directed what?
Statch.
Tent of stuff, yeah.
And I think Michael Vaughan, Matthew Vaughan,
was an assistant director.
He worked under Guy Richie.
So Michael, Matthew Vaughan got his start directing Layer Cake.
And it was so good that he went on to direct X-Men First Class and he's been killing it ever
since.
X-Men First Class looked really good.
Yeah, it was arguably one of the best X-Men movies and that he went on to, of course, to do King's Man.
He has a distinct style that he got from working
with a better director.
I'm really hoping to see more paced episodes like this.
I think this was done very well.
A lot of potential.
And it wasn't like a situation where it was like information overflow. And you know what, Tudru is to thinking
about discovery, you would have like the bridge crew. And you almost knew nothing about them
until like season four, right? Right. And I feel even like the unknown characters, because there's
just one guy that's on the bridge crew that we've seen a few times. And I think one, one
blue shirt guy who died, like pushed this, um, you know, I don't know what rank he is,
like pushed him out like through the door and say, yeah, yeah. And like, I've seen him.
I feel like I have more connection with this guy than I did for you three seasons of the discovery crew for bridge
It's it was I made a comment about that last week actually, yeah, you know, like we know more about
Lon noony and sing in four episodes than we knew about
a wowsokun and debtmer and
about a Welsacon and Debtmer and, uh, I'm drawing blanks to some of the names, but, but basically everybody that's not named Michael Burnham and Saru after four seasons. And by the way, I know
way too much about Burnham. Yeah. Yeah. I do, I do like how Burnham is not a main topic in this show for Spock
It occasionally pass you know comes up in passing
It's up to about once. It's all about her in the very presence in this
I mean it sounds like Lon got a glimpse of her in the mind meld so that's gonna come up again
Which which I'm flying with like it's to me though me though, I was a little concerned
with how this series is gonna play out,
because Pike saw his future,
knows how the accent's gonna occur.
And I was concerned that this series was gonna run
with Pike being woe is me,
I have to find a way to stop this
or alternate this or accept it or whatever. and mention it, they barely become up his topics. And when they do, it's really quick, really impassing. That's about it.
Yeah.
And at this point, they know that time travel exists, right?
I'm sure.
Because of what happened with the, what
do they call them, the angel in season two?
Yeah.
I would imagine Pike in spot you.
If I understand correctly, when it comes to Starfleet,
like, it's a generalization of time travel exists, and
if I understand correctly when it comes to Starfleet like
it's a generalization of some time travel exists by the on it is against the the was at the time travel in Star Trek. I don't remember what it is. I'm trying to blank.
I don't remember anybody having a specific,
because they've talked about it in Voyager.
Oh, no wonder I don't remember.
Yeah.
Is it do no harm?
But you need to avoid any type of contact or anything like that.
They talk about, it's come up in a few times.
Like, first contact, start track first contact,
when they go back in time,
they plan like a,
you'll settle here in this like no name area,
it's a little isolated island
and off in New Zealand I think it was.
I found what you're looking for.
Temporal prime directive.
Temporal prime directive.
Yeah.
And they, so like I think it's an overall understanding,
but I think very few members of Starfleet,
probably maybe like the captain or above,
know actually how to perform certain maneuvers
that will cause it.
I mean, it's just they never really got into like those sorts of things, you know, I don't think.
In which one in the press?
I don't remember. I think it's all of the surcharco, I think.
I mean, talk about too much.
Yeah.
Well, again, you know, time travel was a big topic in season two of discovery.
There's actually, that's about the question.
Does the Spock know that Burnham is in the future?
Or does he just think that she's dead?
No, no, no, that was the plan for her to take discovery into the future.
Pike and Spock were completely, you know, and that.
That's how memorable that show is to me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
However, there are some episodes in that show that really suck out,
like when Harry Mud shows up and does like the time travel one where it's like a
loop.
Groundhog Space Well.
Yeah.
Great.
Groundhog's days.
Space Well.
Right.
I enjoyed those episodes.
But yeah, strangely, let's stand topic.
I think that kind of connects to Stranger World's Drew
is that that episode was such just a self-contained episode
that it reminds me so much of Stranger World's
where these are so far been very well done
self-contained episodes.
It's a good point.
It's kind of interesting because
for such a serialized show,
yeah, that one does kind of stand out,
not you imagine it.
I hadn't really thought about that up to this point.
But it's funny, both users are another one too,
like with mud, and like both of those is really
Appeal more so the entire than the entire season which I think I think to me
This series is playing off Star Trek strengths of those individual stories
Rather than having a connected
Story I just I think what I'm just trying to do is like push the conversation away from beating a dead horse about them being self-contained stories because we talk about it a lot.
And it's kind of the whole mission of this show.
Like, you know, let's...
Yeah, the mission is to really like go boldly or no one else has gone before.
Right, right. Like that's the whole point of strangely worlds to do the episodic thing that people have been clamoring for. So rehashing what discovery has and hasn't done
isn't gonna really affect how I feel
about strange to the world, you know.
Fair point, fair point.
The one thing that's strange to the world
needs a little more though, is criticism, I found.
It needs more Jason Isaacs.
I don't think you're gonna get that.
Damn, although technically we don't know what happened to Prime Lorca, so it is possible.
It is true.
It is implied that Prime Lorca is dead, but it has never been confirmed.
Until you see the body.
Until you see the body.
It's true.
It's true.
Even when you see the body, check it for a pulse.
Yeah, I know.
Double tap.
Hey, let's talk about this storyline with you,
Hurrah and Hammer.
What you guys think of that?
It was sweet.
Good old was a, man, the actress that's playing you,
Hora is killing it, man.
She hasn't turned, yeah, every time she's on screen,
it's just, you know, it's energetic,
it's, she's, she's, she's magnetic,
it's just, she's a lovely screen presence.
And she's doing.
I think that was one of the things
that I'm truly appreciating it,
because it's, I was afraid that
it would be like oh you know I'm so used to the original series Michal Nichols
Michelle yeah I was kind of afraid that she would overshadow the actress but it's
it's never been the case so far it's she's really taking her own and I'm really enjoying the character.
Yeah, this is the third actress that we've had for Yehara, you know, so far as the
performance I know Laura Bell. Yeah, I mean, I really try to keep like the
the Abrams movies kind of separate. Yeah, they're playing the same character,
but they're really kind of not like this this Uhura is supposed to become the one
that we're watching in the original series right now.
They are one in the same.
They're just played by two different people.
But to your original question, Drew,
like I really like the interaction between her and Humber.
And I'm looking forward to get to know Humber more.
Me too.
He's such a very unique character I feel,
that they don't, I think there's a lot of opportunity with him.
The actor that plays Hemmer is actually visually impaired as well, right?
Yes.
Yeah, which is a nice touch.
Yeah, which I found really,
because I was keeping that in my mind when they were doing that scene with him walking down the hall.
And I'm like seeing like there's like this wall of glasses,
like these walking by and I'm like, man,
I wonder how they helped direct him,
make sure like he didn't like pump into the wall.
Well, if you've been visually impaired
for a good chunk of your life,
you're probably gonna know how to navigate around the world.
I have a friend that's losing his eyesight.
He has a eye disease called written eyes pigmentosa.
And basically his peripheral vision
is deteriorating more and more.
Eventually, you know,
unless they can find some sort of a cure
or a way to reverse it, he'll be completely blind.
And you know, a lot of the stuff that he does is by feel,
but like when he's in his house,
like he just knows where everything is.
Everything is in a spot and he can walk around
that navigate comfortably.
It's when he's in strange places that he's not familiar with.
That's when he starts needing help,
whether it's by a cane or a guide or whatever the case is.
So.
And that's like, I think the reason why I was kind of
wondering that is because this is a set. In sets change. They rip them apart. They move them around. And like to
me, like it was without like a was flawless. But the key is you also know how many takes.
Well, they're also predictable too. Like he has an opportunity to walk through the set.
And like, you know, he only when they're when they're walking through a hallway like it's a straight shot right maybe has a curve to it but all he has
to do is walk forward he doesn't have to worry about jumping over stuff for the other stuff
though like they're blocking off those scenes for cameras they're resetting them so he
doesn't need to necessarily traverse like over a ton of things to get to from point A to
point B within a scene.
Right.
They have rehearsals they have to hit their marks.
So there's a good chance.
I'm not criticizing him in that sense.
I'm just saying, I'm impressed
with how seamless he was in that scene.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Gotcha.
That's what I was trying to convey.
I guess I'm trying to like downplay it.
I'm like, don't give him, I'm like,
don't give him any credit.
I mean, that's how it's coming off.
That's not how I necessarily mean it,
but that's kind of how it sounded.
Hey, by the way, I still don't like Ortega's.
Yeah, I still don't like her character.
I think she's cocky and she hasn't in my mind earned it.
That could all change if she has, you know,
a backstory.
Well, I mean, sure we'll get to it.
We're getting there, I assume, you know.
I hope so.
Because again, everything she's done so far
just comes off, you know, cocky,
and it's not, it's, for me, it's not earned.
I don't think cocky is necessarily bad.
I just think they're just bad one-liners.
I mean, so far, we've gone through Pike,
who are number one in sync, right?
We love Spock, Chapel, Artegas, Mbanga, and Hammer.
Yeah.
And Baga, I hope we get more of him Bega,
because we had a tease of his backstory.
We don't actually know too much about him.
Otherwise, I hope we get more.
But again, I know more about him Bega,
who's been in maybe what, two or three episodes, really,
with a living amount of screen time,
compared to Ortega's, who's had more screen time,
I like him back a more.
He seems more human less
Less of a jerk
I don't I don't see her the same way you do, but I understand what you're saying. Mm-hmm. Yeah, right
All right, we have we have a dimensionally opposed opinions on Ortega's just like we had
Well, different opinions about those kids,
you know, whatever so was that?
Of TOS.
Oh, that was a knock knock.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
All right, Kirk should have Vulcan punched him in a face.
He should have.
Yeah.
I would have applauded that.
I would have applauded that. I am. So we have what Spocka mock next week?
Yeah, there's some Thursday.
We don't have a description for that, do we?
I am DB headed.
Oh, if I had to guess, Spock does stuff that goes
again, Star our fleet protocol.
I'll read the description for my MbB.
Spock a mock, a personal visit causes a comedy of errors during Spock and pikes crucial
negotiations with an unusual alien species.
At least, we need nothing to go on.
I know, right?
It leaves me nothing to go on. I know, right? It leaves me nothing to go on.
I'm hoping I laugh a lot.
Comedy of error supplies laughter.
I have a feeling we're gonna be disappointed, though.
I just hope some of my steps and falls in a banana.
Should we cover our rankings?
We have not, yeah.
We haven't covered our rankings yet.
And just before we do,
I would like you guys to keep in mind your favorite episode. By the time we're done with this, by the time we're done with the Shrank New Worlds, was it first part of the season?
I would like to hear your opinion on top three episodes in your opinion.
top three episodes in your opinion.
In your reasons why?
I mean, we're only this what four episodes didn't.
Yeah.
But you have a clear favorite.
I'm certain you do.
So keep those in mind. And when we're done, the last episode will rank them.
Okay.
Sure.
You're talking about the whole season or just the halfway point.
Halfway point.
I'm okay with the halfway point.
Because I was thinking it would be fun to do like a season or just the halfway point. Halfway point. I'm okay with the halfway point. Because if you're...
I was thinking it'd be fun to do like a season wrap up.
Yeah.
How many episodes are we getting?
This, uh, 10, I think?
10 episodes.
Which is, it's not the sweet number.
10 episodes is a really good number.
You are focused on, it's strong, right?
Because if you do an episode, a series of 20 something episodes,
you're going to have maybe 10, 15 strong ones.
I think I prefer like the shorter seasons like this.
Yeah. I think was it, um, the expanse did like one point, like,
I think 14 or 15 episodes. And like, I think that's the max I would want to go
ever. The what?
I want to do, I would say, 14 or 15 is probably
the maximum number of episodes in a season.
Only because I think the longer you draw it out,
the more things just get it,
the more filler episode you get.
Exactly. Yeah.
There's less actual content and it's more just going around in a loop.
We're going back to the same well.
So how many times in the TOS episodes we've seen the same kind of concept where it's like
an energy cloud or a godlike being?
Well, part of that kind of leans towards, I think, serialized nature of television in modern times, you know, a show like the Expans.
The what?
Damn it, Majid.
No, just keep going.
So, I mean, like, you know, that's telling a story from start to finish on, you know, so that they had 10 episodes, then 13, 13, 10, 10, and six.
For that show, Breaking Bad was another one
that had short seasons.
But every episode of Breaking Bad was just toit.
Yeah, Breaking Bad was a great show.
There's no filler, you know.
But when you have a 30 episode run or 26 episode run,
there's gonna have to be some, you know,
some disappointing episodes, just the nature of it.
Yeah, and I hope you don't get any disappointing episodes
with Trange the Worlds.
So far, so good.
Yeah, that being said, it's a nice segue
and getting your rankings, guys.
Let's start with Bradley.
Bradford?
You know what?
You totally messed up my name like three times, everybody.
You sure?
It's not bad work out.
Okay, well overall story was actually very entertaining to me.
As I mentioned before, it felt such like a self-contained mini movie.
There were certain points that kind of were just very...
There was one point that was very met, which was the spock in saying going out on the shuttle.
It felt kind of... That part felt very filler to me, but other than
that, I think the overall flow of the episode went very well. Getting the backstory behind
saying, getting her history going through the motions towards with Hammer and Aurora and I really enjoyed it.
I was, I think I'm at a nine for this episode.
Interesting.
I kind of even wanna say maybe 9.5,
only because I actually enjoyed it
more than the first episode.
That's interesting.
I'm gonna go with 9.5.
Because I, I, I, that one little point where that it was a little filler that, that was
kind of like met for me, but I'm not going to let that drag down the episode.
It was close to being spot on in every single point for me.
Mm-hmm.
9.5.
You know, if there's a better episode this season, it's probably going to be a
10 for me. I don't want to give out a 10, but honestly, I really enjoyed this one a lot
more than that first episode. Well, I don't want you to feel like you're compelled to make
something a higher score because you enjoyed it more or less. Just rate it on its own merit.
And you know what I mean?
I'll go with nine then.
Do a nine.
Final answer.
You sure?
I wasn't trying to talk you out of a 9.5 on this.
I was just trying to talk you out of potentially giving
something a 10 just because you enjoyed it more than this
episode.
No, I think that's the point though.
It's like I enjoyed it a lot.
But no, 9.9 is my final answer. I my pilot so 9 so 9.0 9.0. Yes, you sure wants to put the difference to 9.25 drew. What was your answer?
I'm going with a 9 on this one. I really enjoyed this. I like the for different reasons in the pilot, but this is
different reasons in the pilot. But this is like everything that I love about Star Trek, right? You have action, you have a tense situation, you have people working together using Star Trek science to
figure out a problem, drawing logical conclusions on how they can defeat an enemy that they're struggling
to defeat or deal with a problem that they're struggling to deal with. Everything that they did make sense,
they had this awesome submarine battle
surrounding a black hole and a dwarf planet or whatever.
We had this awesome side story with two characters
that are being highly developed each episode,
Hammer and Uhrah.
And I really like that, you know,
that the whole engineer talking the cadet
through fixing a problem and how she's reacting naturally to it
and how this, you know, crotch-deold man
for all intents and purposes is, you know,
showing patience and kindness and guiding her through
fixing the problem in his own way.
You know, he's showing that that snarkiness and that hard edge, but still has a soft side too, right?
He's not all pins and needles, I suppose.
If I would watch this episode any time it was on, I would not skip this episode.
Love it. I love the top to bottom
You know, I think I think it's a different nine than the pilot, but it's still a nine nonetheless. I
Am I'm so happy you guys are
That high doesn't make me feel bad for my score
He's gonna give you five you're not gonna ask me are you now? I'm waiting for you to say, hey, Mjie, what are you going to score?
What did you think?
I mean, you technically are hosting.
So therefore, you're the one that's
supposed to take initiative.
It took you a while to say that.
So you get it to mayor.
Maybe he just wants us to interrupt him.
Like last week, when I was hosting,
I tried to give my score for like 25 minutes.
I love that.
It's so funny to me.
Just to see the look of frustration in your face,
grow and grow and grow and see you edit me
out the entire episode.
But I'm giving you episode of 10.
Wow.
I'm going there, man.
Listen, so Drew has his way of gauging each episode, right?
So if the episode was on, he's scrolling on TV,
is he gonna watch it?
That's Drew's thing.
My thing is, if the episode is on, and I'm on my phone,
am I putting my phone down?
I like that.
So my phone was down the entire time.
Mine was shit.
I can't tell you how many times I would throw something on on the TV and just be like flipping through my phone was down the entire time. I can't tell you how many times I would throw something on the TV and just be flipping
through my phone the entire time.
Exactly.
That is such a pivotal moment nowadays.
Because you want to watch it, but you're just like, I'm not so interested that I'm going
to put in my full attention.
This was one of those episodes that really grabbed me and drew me in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, no pun intended?
No.
Okay.
Because we have a true part anyway.
So I think I started watching this episode Thursday, Drew or Friday.
When did I message you?
I think it was Thursday.
And we decided we were to record on Monday.
And I watched the first 10 minutes right before the title sequence. And I
messaged you guys saying, holy crap, what an amazing episode so far. And I had
to stop watching it. Because if I finished watching that episode that day, I would
have ruined every talking points between then and the recording I would have nothing to talk
about.
So, I watched the entirety of it yesterday.
My phone was not on.
That was it.
Yeah, my phone was down.
I was engaged.
I had, you know, nobody could talk to me.
Just let me watch this episode.
Let me just, the stakes were high.
Pike making a decision to seal the bulkhead and sacrifice one person.
You can see it destroyed him.
He did not want to lose anybody.
And the only thing that Fox said was you made a logical decision.
And even, I think that's an important distinction.
I'm like, just real quick. because you made the logical decision. And even, I think that's an important distinction,
like just real quick, like, it destroyed him,
but he still made the decision.
And he didn't hesitate longer than he should have.
Yeah, I loved that because he struggled with it.
What was it that's boxed at home, because like,
it was like something like,
you made a logical decision. And he's like, what does it feel so bad was like something like the logic of the decision.
And he's like, what does it feel so bad then?
Is like because you value life.
Right.
Yeah.
It was, it destroyed him and I don't know, man,
I just, it resonated with me because you know that Pike is going
to be badly injured by radiation saving cadets.
Right. I know this is going to be very probably premature for me to say something, but like so far,
this series has been really turning out to be one of my favorite Star Trek run series.
I don't know.
I mean, if it keeps the pace up, even with last week's episode like that was probably the lowest so far
If we get
More episodes that are on that part still like it would be a very good very good series
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is why I will stick to my guns. I will give this a 10
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me. Every, every, there's no part of this episode where I just kind of rolled my eyes.
The parts with Yehura and Hammer,
they, it was, it was emotional, it was,
it just worked, every part of this episode worked.
So it was a, it was a 10.
Even though like the least favorite part of the episode,
I, it wasn't that point where I was just like,
oh, come on, like that's so ridiculous. It wasn't that point where I was just like, oh, come on.
Like that's so ridiculous. It still worked. Right. It was just, it was a, a plot point that
really could have just been done slightly differently, but it didn't detract to a point where
I was like, okay, this ruined the episode. I just got a post on Reddit where somebody
called this a memorial day, Gorn submarine, black hole medical drama infused with more PTSD
than you could shake a stick at.
That also develops characters and interpersonal relationships.
I can see that.
So you know what, let's just call it a hunt for the red October.
Yeah, yeah, that was another thing.
It was, um, you know, sing didn't want to wear the memorial
badge.
And then at the end, she wore the memorial badge.
I wonder if they planned it that way.
Knowing.
Maybe.
It would be coming out like right before it's possible.
Maybe.
Can you add,
add, send mounts and ask them?
Sure.
We can try.
We can.
We can add nice.
We can add anybody.
I mean, he seems like the kind of guy that would respond.
Like, you know, Zadi Pike seems like a guy that is nice to fans.
Yeah.
So.
He's very active on Twitter.
Yeah.
Good.
So, maybe Adam.
And, you know, we can take bets on how long it'll be before he follows a restraining order against us.
But guys, next week we have Spacamok.
A muck. Spacamok.
That's a good question. This bet. That's what it's pronounced, right?
And there's a comedy of errors.
Once the negotiations happen with a alien species.
What exactly is a comedy of errors?
People fall on bananas, they get the merits.
It's a William Shakespeare play apparently.
They put diesel fuel in their cars, they'll always take some lead.
Let's see how true this description from IMDB is.
I'm DB's are lying load of garbage.
I know.
We could only watch episode and be like,
this is nothing like that.
Right.
Right.
It's not even about Spock.
Spock's brother.
He's not even in the episode.
Right.
It's about Sam Kurt in his coma.
Ha ha ha ha.
God, I hope we see Sam Kurt again at some point.
Because he's probably a true story. Drew's theory, it's still technically pretty south.
Drew's theory is that every time Sam Kirk is on screen,
he will get hurt.
I mean, I think that could work.
Let's check it through it.
Yeah, and we have some memes for you to go.
If that's the case.
So we'll see.
But until next week, guys, do we have a sign off?
Do we have a sign off we wanna do like,
hey, thanks for tuning in.
Or, thanks for listening.
Well, we'll love it ducked up.
We can't see him well, we'll love ducked up.
That's copyrighted trademark.
Cut that.
What was Brad's warp command? Smash it. Smash it. What's Pikes? Hit it. Yeah,
we'll smash it. Make it so. Smash it folks. I'm pretty sure it's just hit it. All right,
I think they're tired of her BS. Live long and prospect, guys. Thanks for listening.
Bye.
Bye.
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