Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 050: (SNW S02E03-E04) Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow & Among the Lotus Eaters (Dual Review)

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

Time Travel AND Memory Loss? In the same podcast? Whaaaaaat? Brad, Drew, and Majeed can't remember if they've gone back in time or not, as they discuss Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Season 2 episodes ..."Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow" and "Among the Lotus Eaters." Do tin foil hats help you get gains in the gym? Is Star Trek going Hallmark in season 2? Tune in to find out! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at YetAnotherSTPod@gmail.com! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Music Greetings and salutations, good afternoon, good morning. Good evening. Hi. Hello. Guten Tag. Welcome to another episode of yet another Star Trek podcast. I am Drew's second best friend, Gede, hosting for today. And with me, I go always are my two cohorts. First up we have Brad for the evening Brad for the afternoon Supper time Brad Hello there sexy beast. How you doing? All right, nope that's not one that's not one
Starting point is 00:00:56 sexy based and next and next to him in a different state and time zone drew Hey, buddy, listen guys. I'm coming in hot today. Can I do that? Of course you can. Of course you can. Yes. Of course. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Let's go. Now, buddy. The three of us have been chatting for approximately 34 minutes while we're getting ready for the show. You were making some edits to Bread Synopsis. And everything was fine. And at 2.30 on the nose, it's 2.35 Eastern time.
Starting point is 00:01:33 At 2.30, my neighbor's lawn mower turned on. And I am so mad. They'd have turned on by itself, but he turned on. I assume he turned it on because it is, it's moving back and forth. I can hear it go by the window and then it gets quieter and then it goes by the window again and then it gets quieter and it's just like,
Starting point is 00:02:00 buddy, I don't know if you know this, but they have like robot vacuum cleaners and they have robot lawnmowers down to that's a thing Can you explain to me how this is relevant? Well yours Do you actually see your neighbor cutting this grass because you're blaming him for no reason? I would have to get up and look, but I promise you that you not have a robot vacuum Drew, well, and if they did they did, it would be quieter,
Starting point is 00:02:25 because have you heard those things? Have you ever inquired? Let me tell you Drew, what you can do is you just go to your window and you stare judgmentally at your neighbor until they stop. I have a better idea. Why don't you just become Clint Eastwood from Gran Serena? And just yellow people from your yard.
Starting point is 00:02:48 I like in his underwear or something. Nobody wants that. Nah, hang on. There's a whole demographic, there's a whole audience, untapped potential. What is the audience? I mean, the whole point is to get them to stop, right? Would that get them to stop? What depends? What's Drew waving at them to get them to stop right? Well, when would that get him to stop? Well, the pens. What's Drew waving at him to get him to stop?
Starting point is 00:03:09 I'm not going to touch that. Oh, no. Brad, are you coming in half? I'm coming in. You know what? I'll go with yes, because I really, really, really annoyed with you, Magid. I think we need to just hash it out right now on air with everybody to listen. But Magid does this to me on purpose and noise the hell out of me in one of our discord rooms. He doesn't put his name as Bajid or GD or sexual chocolate or something that would be appropriate for the individual. He, what he does is he puts Drew loves GD.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I'm GD. So whenever he posts something in this discord channel, I think it's Drew who posts something and I'm like WTF. That's not true, that's Bajee. And it's basically... The picture is me. So basically you're getting excited because me, you're your best friend in the whole wide world.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You think that I have something like great to say. And then when you find out that it's not me, exactly, you're grossly disappointed because Majid just can't possibly live up to the post-quality that I provide. Of course, of course. I mean, I understand, I understand completely. It makes me upset too.
Starting point is 00:04:38 There's a whole level of nerdom that you and I share. And I swear, Majid, you know what? You and I have the comic book history, but man, it's gone long enough. I'm sorry, it's gone long, long enough. I don't know what you're gonna do about it. You're literally on a different time zone. You can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It is the same time zone. It, I mean, I'm in a different state on the East Coast. I know you're in a state of, uh, the amusements right now. Oh, I can't believe this is, I'm just gonna give you the title achievement now. Give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a,
Starting point is 00:05:21 give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, give him a, He doesn't have that power. He doesn't have that power. He doesn't have that power. He doesn't have that power. I think I have to. Magi, you have received an official Demarit from the Council of Brad. Yes!
Starting point is 00:05:33 So the thing that makes this worse, oh, yeah, oh no, I got a Demarit. But hang on, the thing that makes this worse for Brad about our names in Discord, I'm not the only one that does it. So our friend Franks, who's also in our Discord, he changed it. What is it?
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's, oh, Drew is someone else. I'm Franks. He did it purposely because he was frustrated with you doing it. It's so funny. It is a protest, yeah. By the way, I would love to pivot into a quick opportunity to give a cheap plug for the show's Discord, which there is a link to in the show notes if anybody
Starting point is 00:06:17 wants to come by and chat. Because we talk about it in the credits, but I don't think anybody ever makes it that far. Drew is a s, is, is, Sion Storm in there. And I'm going to change mine to Sion Storm's friend. Yeah. She's, she's not, she's not Brad.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I, I wonder how, I wonder how well that would go off in that channel. What do you think Drew? Uh, nobody, nobody make it. You'd be confusing a lot more people though. No, but I don't think anybody would be angry because nobody, I think one person that room listens to the show. Well, also the thing is, I mean, Brad is easily triggered. You know, well, aren't we all because he's from Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:07:02 which is in a time zone. Right. I love you, Brad. from Hatlanta, which is an in a time zone. Right. Right. I love you, Brett. I love every version of you. Don't stare at me that way. Hey guys, we had a good week of Star Trek, didn't we? We had a good two weeks of Star Trek. Yeah. Wanna talk about some episodes?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Let's do it. So we watched two. Right, clearly. Tomorrow, tomorrow, and tomorrow. And the other episode, which is, it called me off guard was, among the lotus eaters, which, I can't wait to get into that one.
Starting point is 00:07:57 That one is really deep for me, phrasing. Anyway, let's take a dive into this synopsis, shall we? So if you guessed that tomorrow, tomorrow, it was a time travel episode. If you had money on that, on trafficking, you would have won some money. You see, I thought it was going to be like Groundhog stay, where it's just like tomorrow, over, and over, and over again.
Starting point is 00:08:23 So discovery did that in season one with mud. And we talked about it last time. I think that was the perfect use of that mechanic with mud because Rainwellson, he kills it as mud. That's hard. I agree. That's true. That was a great episode.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Yeah. It was better than I expected. But no, this one just straight up time travel. Again, accidental time travel. What a bunch of pretty cool reveals at the end, right? But we'll get into that. We'll get into that, I promise. I'll give Drew a chance to spread his wings and shine.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Woo! So, Lieutenant Launcene. Love her, such a crush. Anyway, she comes across a wounded man who stumbles out of an archway. It's clear that the man that stumbled out of this archway was shot in his dying. But before he does, he gives Seng a device and tells that there was an attack in the past and she needs to get to the bridge. So she does literally that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 After a weird ripple washes over the enterprise, Seng heads directly to the bridge. So she does literally that. After a weird ripple washes over the enterprise, sing heads directly to the bridge. But instead of pike, we meet an alternate version of Kirk. Before you continue, I just want to say that I was disappointed that the weird ripple wasn't a combination of red and blue. Right, we know that. you know, to signify time travel, you definitely need red and blue after putting microwave tin foil and so microwave. So we actually meet another version of Kirk, which that was our cold open, right? And then we jump right to the credits, which, what a great, what a great cold open. After a scuffle in the conference room with Kirk, sync presses a button on a device transporting both of them to the 21st century. Man, was it actually the 21st century?
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah, it was 21st century. Yeah, it was 21st century. It was 21st century, okay. Upon getting to this area, this new time zone, time period? No, brides on a time zone, they're in a different time period. Anyway, Kerr is like, oh, no, this is totally New York. Even though it clearly says Toronto. And I chuckled at that. Ontario. Ontario.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Toronto. There was a Toronto or Ontario? Well, it was both technically. Oh, right. No, it was a slightly different bit to get rid of. So yeah, you've been everywhere, man. You've been everywhere, man.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Is it Toronto in Ontario? I don't know. Yeah, I, I, we can't do this. We have permission. Listen, we have zero engineers. We have permission. Listen, we have Googles in front of us. We can just Google's this. You know what, listen. If we have any Canadian listeners, I apologize.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I made it bad. My bad. I can almost guarantee you nobody in Canada will assist. And Drew just eliminated like half of potential listeners. Anyway, they were in Toronto, which I'm pretty sure is an Ontario, not a Vancouver. Anyway, I chuckled at the reveal that it was Toronto
Starting point is 00:11:30 and Kirk thinking it was New York, because if you didn't know, in a lot of movies and TV shows, it's cheaper to film in Toronto, doubling for New York, You get better tax credits. So I chuckled at that, and my wife was like, why are you laughing like, moron? Oh, I said, oh, it's kind of a double-on-tondray.
Starting point is 00:11:52 She says, nah, it's not how you use that word. Anyway, I had to explain why it was funny to me, why it was clever. And I wonder, just because Kirk was dumb to it, but it was nevertheless a pretty good reveal for me. Anywho, seeing as a term to correct what went wrong, but first a knee closed because they're inside of their Starfleet uniforms. This proves to be not really a problem, so they still close by framing another customer. And as for making money, Kirk is hustling just hustling people on the chess board. And tell me, tell me where on your
Starting point is 00:12:36 bingo score card you had chess montage. Never. By the way, there were a couple of montages. There was a lot of chess of montageages. There was a dress of montage. Guys, we got a dress of montage. Oh man, Kurt, you was hurt. Kurt, a little bit of a montage. Listen, Kurt coming out of the dressing room in the same outfit as Sing. I'm like, listen, I have a crush on Sing
Starting point is 00:12:59 but Kurt's rocking that outfit right now. Oh, they're worthy exact same outfit. The exact same outfit. Which by the way, this also turned into a bit of a love story, this romantic comedy. So what I like to call is Hallmark made a Star Trek episode. I love it. So Kirk conveniently leaves the door open while he's changing, but he comes back out in
Starting point is 00:13:28 the same stupid ass sweater. He took off his shirt with the door open just to seduce Laan. And it worked. And it worked. It absolutely worked. Spoiler alert for the rest of the synopsis. Oh crap. So while Kirk is hustling folks,
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm like, okay, well, this tracks, this tracks with his character because he plays 3D chess with Spock. And after they hustle everybody at the park, Kirk drops the little dime that he's never met an opponent that he can that can beat him. You guys catch that? Yeah. Well, he that's that's technically incorrect because he did stare face to face the spark. Earlier in the episode. Right, but they never played chess. Well,
Starting point is 00:14:22 remember, yeah, they played chess when they were on the same ship in the original series. And he got him to a standstill, to a stalemate. So by hustling in chess, Kurg is able to make gobs of money. Apparently, like billions of dollars. Right. I guess it's like a one bedroom suite. Yeah, I mean, it's Canadian money.
Starting point is 00:14:46 So it's worth like, don't don't don't don't you dare. That's that's a strike too, buddy. You're going to get a band in Canada. Why are you defending Canada? Because as a whole demographic for us, as a whole untapped market for us. Do you want me to load up the stats and tell you how many people in Canada listen? Well, that's now, but we can get there. You know, maybe we say we like Poutine and Trudeau. I mean, I like both of those things. There we go. So we just got Canada viewers. Anyway, all right. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Six. Six. That's great. That's fantastic. This is our 50th episode and we have six. Oh, is our 50th episode? Yeah, happy birthday. Hey, guys, happy 50th episode and we have six. Oh, is our 50th episode? Yeah, happy birthday. Hey guys, happy 50th episode.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Yeah. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads.
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Starting point is 00:15:45 Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads. Six downloads, thank you, Canada. Even though Judaism appreciates you, I do. So, after a good night for us, we find Kirk is reluctant to help correct the issue. But this changes when Singapore's Kirk,
Starting point is 00:15:57 that his brother Sam is somehow still alive. In her timeline, even, so I guess he's not in the coma in her time. He didn't get attacked by chicken patties. He didn't run headfirst into a wall. He hasn't died just yet. There's still time. So they from their hotel room, they notice that the bridge blows up.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And just then it clicks for a lot. She's like, oh, not gets to the Starfleet bridge, not gets to the Enterprise bridge, gets to the actual bridge in Canada. Strike one, strike one on. So they find evidence of a phototic bomb, a weapon from the future. And as they go to investigate, they happen to steal a car. And despite never having driven a car before, Kirk picks up on it within 20, 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:16:52 He becomes fast in the furious, man. He's basically done with his family. It's all about family. It is about my family to say his brother Kirk. But then he's racially profiled by the police. Almost immediately. Yeah, natural. You don't look like a Canadian. Right. Luckily, a crazy conspiracy theorist uses...
Starting point is 00:17:20 Was it BS? Is it, was it like just straight from the headlines? Completely BS. It was completely BS. Yeah, but she was investigating the police. What was her name? What was she though? She, no, she clearly was. She was clearly investigating them. She was recording them. She asked them about previous stops.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Like, she was going in. She was giving them the business. She was giving them bull, you know it. So, this conspiracy theorist. She goes by her by name Sarah. She helps them get away from the police and Kirk and Laon are able to continue their investigation. They make the way to Vermont to seek out Pellia and attempt to find the secret base where
Starting point is 00:18:00 that photomic bomb was being kept. Pellia gives them old divers watch that will glow when it's near Tritium. So, Kirk and Leon, Leon had backed the Toronto and Walker on Amosly in hopes of the watch glowing. This is where we turn into the hallmark for a romantic comedy episode. Apparently, Kirk and Leon are developing feelings
Starting point is 00:18:23 for each other, and they kiss. Lon, just Lon. What did I say? Leon, you've done it a couple of times. Lon. Leon's things. Lon. Yeah, I mean, you can start the pause in there if you want.
Starting point is 00:18:41 It's like Lon. Lon, like L.A. and like network. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's a land. Sorry. I'm so sorry, listeners. I've been pronouncing it wrong this entire time. 50% at a time, the entire time. The watch starts to glow and they immediately find a building where it came from. Once inside, Sarah shows up with a gun. He'll turn, nobody saw that one coming. Turns out she was really a Romulan disguise.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I didn't see that coming. I'm gonna tell you that much. Oh, well, I totally noticed because it was like, how in the heck did she get from the explosion to the police area? And it was like, that seems suspicious. Yeah, I just just I didn't. Joe, did you track that at all?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Did you did you catch that? Did you see a comment? Um, I mean, I was too caught up in the hallmark stuff. Me too. It was right. Me too. I was rude. I was not allowed.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like I kind of got caught up in that. Yeah. So when they did the kiss, I have to admit, like that was pure hallmark. And it was completely, that was expected. Like I saw that coming from, like right from jump. Right. But ever since Kirk tried to seduce her in the changing room. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:53 But I'm here for it. But as far as Sarah being a Romulan, I mean, I guess I kind of felt like something was up with her, but I didn't see that. I didn't see her being a Romulan, but I did suspect like she was a part of the whole thing. Cause to me, it was like, hey, unless they want to have this like, bodyless government organization being like the whole cause of the thing, it didn't really make much sense.
Starting point is 00:20:17 And so like, typically they're gonna need some sort of villain, I guess you could say. And that was the only person they really introduced unless you count the cops that are there. Right. Oh, you can't see the cops are bad. You can't see the cops are bad guys. Oh, so it's a cliche.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Oh, buddy. So Sarah kills Kirk. I didn't see that coming. I just, you know, Kirk never knows. That didn't expect. Yeah. And then she forces, saying to get into the building, to get further into the building. They come across a room that's labeled Khan, realizing that her namesake is just behind the door. I didn't catch it the first time, guys. Didn't catch it the first time. No, really. Didn't catch it. I didn't expect it. I just didn't expect that. I didn't think that they would go with it. So after a fight between Sarah and Singh, Singh is victorious and says, hi to a con.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And with balance restored, she's able to return to the future. Back in the enterprise, she's ordered by a time traveling star fleet officer to secrecy. And she's left to mourn the loss potentially love her life. And she calls Kirk and Kirk is like, oh my God, what did Sam do now?
Starting point is 00:21:50 And that was the only interaction that these two have had in canon. Fair. Yeah. Very, very emotional. Yeah. Yeah. She kept the watch, though.
Starting point is 00:22:04 She did. She kept the watch. she kept the clothing from the past I kind of assumed that this group would Have taken all that stuff I guess I deemed it like In consequential I mean maybe they didn't know about the watch, but I mean the clothing is kind of inconsequential Yeah, considering that she could just replicate that outfit. That's fair. Yeah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:22:30 What did you guys think about it? The episode overall? I really enjoyed it actually. To me, it was, it was a little tacky with the hallmarkness, but I, I'm a sucker for a good time travel episode. I guess the only thing that kind of bothered me was really just like the, the way they had the running against like this clock where it's like, hey, really, of this amount of time to resolve the issue, but they still have enough time to see, you know, a sneaker-cross-the-border bribe, like, some guard and then go to Vermont and find, was it Pellia? Yeah. And, to me, that was a little ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I don't think they needed to have, like, oh, it has to be within X amount of time. They could have just been like, oh, we've been searching for weeks or something like that because then that would have put more plausibility for the hallmark moments. They're like, hey, they're falling in love over weeks as opposed to it being like a matter of hours. I think it's a fair assessment, you know, it did kind of come together fairly quickly and conveniently. fair assessment. It did kind of come together fairly quickly and conveniently. But I don't know, like I didn't particularly mind it too much. You know, there has to be some sort of a stake and having them up against some sort of a clock, I think is probably the easiest way to do it. I mean, let's be completely honest here. There wasn't anything particularly original about this story, right?
Starting point is 00:24:06 And it's not just applicable to Star Trek. Like this is a fairly generic time travel plot executed brilliantly. Yeah, I really enjoyed this. And by saying it's generic, I'm not like trying to slight the writers in any way. I mean, this is paint by numbers, but they did it well. And I think it was a compelling story. You really felt for Lawn who is clearly going through some stuff based on her heritage and then falling in love with a man that she watched, first of all, watch, die in front of her. And secondly, she can never have, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:42 for because he doesn't exist. It was good. There's that group, the time travel keepers. Do they exist like in Canada or is that like the first? No, no, they exist. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. We don't really see them until deep space nine.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Was it deep? Did they, did we say I'm going to do this nine? I know it was a voyager. The first episode they showed up in, I believe, was the one where they went back to Triples episode. Oh, well, yeah. Now, that was a little different, because that was actually the current start fleet, right?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. Because the one I'm referring to is like, I'm thinking about the people from the actual future future. Even more so than we're discovery, where I think I think it's like 400 years past, because I know they were in Voyager and then this. Yeah. Now, I mean, they definitely showed up in trials and tribulations, but they weren't from the future They were you know just from present day trying to ensure that nothing got changed But I mean yeah, like this woman was was clearly from another time So theoretically that person Exists oh like the TVA.
Starting point is 00:26:06 In look. I mean, there's no, they never really went to details about like how they exist in function, but I think that's a good comparison. Man, just just really good stuff there. Yeah. What you guys think about her interaction with Khan? The agent's interaction with Khan? No, no, like Laon's interaction with her ancestor.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Ancestor, yeah. I thought it was, I don't know, it kind of set the tone for, hey, something, you know, you are where you're supposed to be. And I kind of feel that contributes to his potential attitude of like, you know, he's supposed to be what he's supposed to be doing, what he's supposed to be doing, kind of thing. Do you think the fact that she left a handgun, a loaded handgun in his bedroom is going to factor in
Starting point is 00:27:05 anything. Well, how does he end up killing folks? I thought that was his, he takes over with his leadership, right? And his superior strength. And that helps. You know, like he's part of a group of genetically engineered humans. And in Star Trek, and they take over, through strategy, superior intellect, and strength, and of course just gorgeous pecs.
Starting point is 00:27:37 But bad assery. Right, right. So we met the child. Ultimately, that child is going to grow up to become the con that we know. I think I was saying no one loved. I thought about it. It was on the tip of my tongue. Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, Lawn.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Lawn? Yeah. Lawn. Like saying Lawn. Anyway, Lawn had a choice. She could have... She could have just like let her condi. And she could have been free, you know, because that's why she connected with Kirk. You know, that was a big part of it. Kirk didn't know her namesake. He, you know, didn't, he's like, sing. All right, cool. Nothing trickered for him. That's why they connected.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, but I think that guy then goes against with what she ultimately believes in. And plus, you have to consider that if she kills Con, then she changes the timeline forever. And that timeline is what that Kirk came from, right? Because Con dies. Part of the reason that Starfleet exists as we know it is because everybody banded together
Starting point is 00:28:56 to work together to defeat a common enemy, and then they created a utopia from that. So by letting him die, whether it's by her hands, or Sarah's hands, or somebody else's hands, none of that exists, it all goes away. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Kirk's origin is a little different here too.
Starting point is 00:29:16 In the original timeline, was he born on Earth? Yes. Okay, so Iowa. In Iowa. Right, so in this other timeline, he was born in space. He had never seen. He was born. He was born on Iowa. He was born on the USS Iowa. I'm trying to confuse a man. Yeah. I could tell Brad, because he had like this, like this, this is grin on his face. Like he is up to no good. Started making trouble in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah. Yeah. He got one little fight and Drew got scared. So he ended in my episode. That's why I don't mess with Drew. I only mess with you. Did you guys hear something? I think I heard something that was muted. I don't know what that was. I don't know what that was.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Anything you guys wanted to hate about the episode? It just didn't like overall. I think to me it was the only just that one piece where it was just the ticking clock didn't, I felt it was unnecessary. Really, I didn't really have anything I disliked. I do wish that they leaned into the alternate universe thing a little bit harder. But I mean, that's a minor quibble.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I do think that it's very convenient that Pelia was there. And I'm starting to wonder if they wrote her into the series literally for one episode. No, this will be her third episode, right? Second, second appearance. I think, I think she's been in two episodes up to this point. So obviously you have to introduce her because you have to lay the groundwork for this. But now it's like, we, you know, she played her part here like she saved the day. What would they have done if she wasn't around?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Well, yeah, we've had more use out of Pelea than we've had of Sam. And in full honesty though, if she wasn't around, like that really wouldn't probably change much. Because to me, like the amount of, amount that she contributed was very little and they could have done it in a different way. And there was no acknowledgement that she knew, well, on. There should have been that knowing
Starting point is 00:31:37 glance or something because I have to assume that that's all the same timeline, right? No, the events of the timeline got restored. So everything went back to normal. Well, no, because Pellia would then know saying so that we're... Yeah. I don't know. Time travel's confusing. Yeah, Brad, I don't know how you keep it all together. Brad is the best at time travel, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah, by the way, I still chuckle to myself when somehow drew hijacked a thread on Twitter and just made it all about how many verses of Brad there are. And you know what's funny is I didn't even read any of that. Yeah, just give me your Twitter login, Brad. I will make sure you're up to date. I'll give you my threads, login. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:31 By the way, we're on threads. Instagram launched threads, which looks like Twitter, but I mean, I don't know, I'm still getting used to it. Everybody says it's better than Twitter, but I failed to see how it's literally any different except Twitter Functionally works. Yeah, did you but but it's the same. It's the same garbage. It's a nice catch nice nice nice catch Thank you. So Elon Musk threatened to sue Zuckerberg Which by the way, I think it's funny that didn't Elon Musk also threaten to get into a fist fight.
Starting point is 00:33:08 They sent the cease and desist letter to our Facebook or meta, I should say. I also just want to say that I'm not a member of it, but truth social looks just like Twitter and yet no one sued over truth social looks just like Twitter, and yet no one sued over truth social. Just gonna put it out there. That's because... Truth social's owner doesn't actually have a second episode to talk about? You know what we do, and just before we do, I want to, you know, the one thing I had a problem with in this episode was not enough pipe, but in the second episode, it's all about
Starting point is 00:33:59 pipe. I love it. This was called among the Lotus Eders. So we get a healthy dose of pike and some more take is sad trombone sound. Anyway, it startfully notifies pike in the crew of the Enterprise that they discovered cultural contamination from a previous mission to the planet Rigel 7. We're learning that this is an M-class planet stuck in the Bronze Age of Civilization, civilization.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And that scans come up in conclusive. On top of all that, during a previous away mission, several crew members were lost while trying to escape the planet. Pike decides to lead the away team to investigate how the cultural contaminant occurred. With Pike singing in Banga, love in Banga. Going as the landing crew, the crew of the Enterprise attempt to provide support from space.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Once on a planet, the away team starts to experience strange ringing in their ears and what seems to be a loss of time. We quickly discover that one of the thought to be lost crew members named Zach has taken control of the main castle on the planet. He explains that for unknown reasons, people can suffer from what they call the forgetting, which especially causes them to have the tonight's effect, the rain in the ears,
Starting point is 00:35:20 and can't remember what happened from the day before. Can I just mention with the ringing of the ears thing? So Metro was laying on the sofa with me. And every time that noise kicked in, it scared him. Oh wow. Yeah. He was not a fan. Yeah, Kylo didn't care. You know, when it first came up that ringing, that's anitis.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I was like, oh my God, there's an overarching arc for Laan. She has PTSD. She has some kind of emotional trauma from her previous event. And I'm like, this is going to be great. And then it just affected everybody. There was, there was ringing. I didn't hear any. Are you being... I'm just gonna affect that everybody. There was ringing, I didn't hear any. Are you being... My hearing is not that bad. Oh, all right, so.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Brad's got a filter in his implant. Yeah. Okay, I don't know how to respond to stuff like that, so it threw me off some fears. Brad, how do you do with dog whistles. I can find okay. We can find out when it comes to Connecticut. We can just like yeah, record a podcast and have your wife drew just in the other room. Just being on a dog whistle.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Super ad response. What the hell is it? I don't know. What the hell is that? I don't know, I don't hear anything. I have to, after the forgetting, the away team find themselves in a cage not knowing who they are, which by the way we should kind of explain that with the forgetting. All they forget is like short term stuff, right? Anything that's known. Well, no, like all their long term memories are like gone.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Well, so they don't know who they are or... They don't know who they are, but they still have... They remember how to do things that are like muscle memory. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's the determining fact. I think what was a nurse chapel explained it as... Like, she could treat a wound, but she couldn't do any complex surgery. Yeah. And then it went on to also explain that if you, if it's an emotional memory, you also don't forget it
Starting point is 00:37:31 or it's easy to kind of latch onto it and not, you know, forget what's going on. It helps guide you, I guess. Yeah. So on the enterprise, the crew is starting to experience the forgetting as well. It starts with Yehura, which I'm like, okay, cool. Maybe it's some kind of sound device
Starting point is 00:37:49 because she has that little implant. But no, it spreads to the rest of the crew. Things get worse and Nurse Chapel is unable to find a solution to help prevent it. Planet side, a man helps Pike discover a way to deal with the forgetting. This allows him to stable his mind, but is unable to remember his past. Singh ends up getting cut during escape attempts with Pike and Banga and Singh.
Starting point is 00:38:15 This puts her life in danger. With a refound determination, Pike leads the away team to the castle in a form of rebellion that try and get their memories back from a box. He forgot everything and he became gullible. He thought that they took his memories and they're kept in a box. All I can think about is now like that last scene from seven, what's the box? What's in the box? What's in the box? What's in the box?
Starting point is 00:38:46 If you're gonna do the impression, do the impression, just go for it. Come on, try it again. I can't, I can't do the impression. Do it, do it. Come on, just try it. Now all you can think about is, was it Ben Stiller's character, do it.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Do it, do it. All right, I'll try. What's in the box? That's pretty good. No, that's pretty good. Yeah, better than I think. Yeah. All right. I'm going to prize things have gotten even worse, right?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Because that's how things happen. Or Tegas is wandering off because she has now also forgotten her memories, forgotten herself. She eventually realizes that she is the only person who can fly the ship and with her muscle memory help prevent the ship from crashing. This episode with Ortegas, I've made it a well-known fact I didn't like Ortega's before this episode. And I, or this episode made me like Ortega's a little more. I thought you were gonna say,
Starting point is 00:39:53 this episode made me like her even less. No. No. Or after this episode, I still don't like Ortega's. That's something to that effect. You know what's funny? I put that in our discord and Brad's like, so team Ortega's, oh my effect. You know what I just want to I put that in our our discord and Brad's like so team
Starting point is 00:40:07 Ortega's oh my no we're not there yet. No we're not there. I like Ortega's or take is fine. She's yeah I felt bad for her because she was so determined to be a part of the landing party. Yeah. Yeah. And then Pike is like psych.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah. Yeah. Cause she was like she was full in a full get up for the disguise like she's like I got a hat and everything. It's like, psych. Yeah. Yeah, cause she was like, she was full in a full get up for the disguise. Like, I got a hat and everything. It's like so excited. Right, yeah. She was like, she's like, Juan gave me this great outfit
Starting point is 00:40:33 that she found somewhere and, you know, I was so excited to wear it. Right. He's like, yeah. I think you heard me find her for the hat, right? Like, you're really gonna wear the hat. Yeah, of course I'm wearing the hat. So Pike makes his way to the previously thought
Starting point is 00:40:48 to be dead crew member, Zach. Beat some in. What I have to imagine is the John Wikias moments of the series. There is blaster fire, there's hand-to-hand combat, there's torture, there's everything for everybody. Zach explains that an asteroid hit the planet long ago, causing the forgetting
Starting point is 00:41:11 and the only thing that can prevent them is the metal from the asteroid. So Zach and his crew have created the castle with that ore, which prevents them from the radiation along with the helmets, so they don't forget. And I guess what being inside this structure with the helmet for long enough time nullifies the effect?
Starting point is 00:41:34 All right, so. I understand being in the structure, nullifying the effect, but the helmets, this is like the equivalent of wearing a tinfoil hat to keep out the conspiracies. Ha, ha. I mean, why? It's just like the equivalent of wearing a tin foil hat to keep out the conspiracies. I mean, why is that a problem? Listen, the government, sometimes, with these new fangled angled satellites,
Starting point is 00:42:02 can read your thoughts. Why can't you protect yourself, Drew? You should turn your phone off. Why do you think I wear a baseball cap to the gym? Listen, I don't, I don't, secrets. Well, I can tell you why. There's foil on the inside of my baseball cap. Oh, okay. I wear a baseball cap to the gym because I sweat a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And it gets in my eyes and the hat helps. Yeah well you know I also think it's the other thing too because you don't want the government reading your thoughts. It's what about you? The government is preventing you from getting your gains. Oh god listen if the government were responsible for me not being able to bench 315 pounds, I would be so upset. I'm just gonna put it out there. Humble bread? Humble bread, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Humble bread. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. Guys, I love this episode. It started off really, really slow, but I had loved this episode. What did you guys think? I started off really good for me,
Starting point is 00:43:33 and then I got really bored. Oh, I don't know. There were some nice little jabs with the Rageal 7, being a part of the original pilot and referencing that, and then they referenced it in the Menadjuri. And honestly, I thought that was really cool, but then the more I thought about everything, I was like, well, this is an away mission years ago, and this is kind of what happened. Why didn't anybody experience
Starting point is 00:44:05 the forgetting the first time they were there? Did they forget that they experienced? And that's why I just, I don't know, man, it just, there's a lot of holes in my mind that it didn't really mesh too well. And it just kind of felt, it didn't really hold my interest. Wait, so Rachel seven was in, we watched the pilot, didn't we? All right, so do you remember when Pike was in his bedroom doing the Mean Girls thing where he's laying on the bed? And he's having a drink with the bartender. I mean, doctor, and they're talking about that mission where people died and stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That was a mission to Rijal 7. And if I'm not mistaken, the Tolozians even had him in a flashback fight with, remember the guy that looks like he was like, oh wow. What the fat teeth and everything. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Yeah. Are you saying that the menagerie just got, like, it just became crucial viewing? Like, that's wild. Well, I would say the cage more than the menagerie, but yes. Well, I mean, they reference it in the menagerie too. Do they?
Starting point is 00:45:20 Yeah, yeah, because they do the flashback, if I remember correctly. Right. The cage happens before before strange new world so they've been dropping little Details of that over time, you know Like they even talk about in this episode They even talk about so the cage doesn't really exist doesn't yeah Because the menagerie is really what they read they read con some of the Yeah, it does. Because the menagerie is really would,
Starting point is 00:45:45 they retcon some of the stuff from the cage in the menagerie. No, aside the menagerie, when they're on trial, Morse code pike is recapping the events of the cage. So the cage did happen. It was just a trash show. There were maybe some small details that they aired differently.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, I think that's what it was. But the gist of it, everything that happened is still canon. So, you know, I mean, like, the even acknowledged that number one was the original pilot. And I think they mentioned that in this episode that number one was the original pilot. And I think they mentioned that in this episode too, if I'm not mistaken. She said that she used to fly the ship. I thought that was just a throwaway line.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, but if, remember though, in the cage, number one was also the pilot. Man. What so many deep cut references? They're really tying a lot together in this series and nerd like me couldn't be happier. I do have to go stand by my same thought where was the forgetting, like how did that not come up before? I don't know, that's a good question. I don't have any questions. Because they're like, hey, an asteroid crashed. This is like recently crashed.
Starting point is 00:47:09 And since they went there, is that what they're trying to say to us? Because if that's the case, then how in the heck do they have that much time to build a giant freaking castle and to know that it's not, it's gonna impact the memory type thing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:30 I don't know. I don't know, I'd have to dive into that further and see if there were any prior mentions. I don't think you at the writers, maybe on Twitter. You think they respond? Give it a shot. I mean, we added the folks that developed the Star Trek game because Drew was loving it.
Starting point is 00:47:52 And they were nice enough too. Well, they didn't respond. We didn't ask them a question. We just sang their praises because it was a really good game. Yeah. Is a really good game. I don't think the episode was a bad episode overall. It just didn't Hold my interest like the previous episodes this season so far
Starting point is 00:48:12 Yeah, I mean there's there's been some Some waves as far as like I think the the quality of the episodes go in this season and I believe a big part of that is because they're trying to explore the other characters a little bit more in depth. I feel like as much as this could be said that this was like an ortekus episode, I really don't think it focused on ortekus nearly enough. No, it was more pike. She saved the day, but I mean this was definitely a pike episode. Yeah, I still don't know much about ortekus. Yeah. Yeah, I still don't know much about or take us yeah, and I don't necessarily think that I want to know more about it
Starting point is 00:48:47 Take us Sorry, not sorry. Do you want to elaborate on that though? I don't care for the character that much Yeah, I mean, you know, I like a little more because you know She she had the muscle memory thing. she's that good of a pilot, that it's just so embedded into her, like it's just a part of her that she was able to break free of the radiation spell. I mean, you got glimpses of that with lawn fighting,
Starting point is 00:49:22 you got it with Embenga treating her wounds. Yeah. So pikes compassion. Like things that are like the core of who these people are. You know, those were retained. Embenga is still far and away my favorite character on this show. I don't know what it is. Yeah, like give me more in Banga. He's he's great. He's Spock would have been mad. Um, so what I heard the, uh, the episode title, uh, Lotus Eaters. Uh, what does it call it? Valley of the hang on. Uh, it's, um, I just had it up among the Lotus.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Among the Los. Yeah. So you weren't familiar with the origin of what Lotus Eaters are, right? Or just kind of the origin. Yeah. So you weren't familiar with the origin of what low deceitors are, right, or just kind of the origin at all. Okay. So, what about you, Brad? No. All right. So, I love, loved and loved Greek mythology.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I loved it in school. And low deceitors is from Homer's Odyssey. In Greek mythology, the lotus seeders were a race of people living on an island dominated by a lotus tree, a plant whose botanical identity is uncertain. The lotus fruits were the primary food of the island and were an arctic.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So they caused the inhabitants to sleep in a peaceful apathy. So as that relates to what these folks were doing, Luke, was it the guy that helped out Pike? Yeah. He lived in, I guess, blissful ignorance. That was Zach. That was Zach. Zach. Okay. Zach didn't, Zach lived in blissful ignorance. All right. He didn't care about his past. All he cared about was just his own happiness. And that's what the load of cedars were.
Starting point is 00:51:31 No, you're right. It was Luke. You're talking about, you're talking about the, you're talking about the old man. The old man, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, right, right. Yeah. No, I'm sorry, I'm talking about the guy who was thought to be dead. No, the old man. The old man, yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, right, right, yeah. No, I'm sorry, I'm talking about the guy who was thought to be dead. No, the old man. I'm surprised. I'm surprised.
Starting point is 00:51:50 No worries, no worries. I'm surprised I got that in the first try. Yeah, it was, it was, I went to search for it and it spelled L-U-Q. So of course, control F didn't find that because nobody spells Luke that way. Not even Sean Luke. Well, he's French.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Is he? Well, John Lucas French. Yeah, but he spells it, LUC. Right, because he's French. Right. So what about this guy, LUC? He's from a different planet. He's an alien. Damn it. Coming in hot again, Mjid.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Right, so living in that blissful ignorance is just what the Lotus Eaters do. I'm coming in hot again, Regid. Right, so living in that blissful ignorance is just what the lotus eaters do. And being among them, you're going to be in that blissful ignorance. That's what they do. So this is like a very apt title then. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And it kept eating away at me. I'm like, is this something that we talked about in the pod before? And it just kind of clicked. It was one of those aha moments where you're sitting on a couch watching episode with your family. And they're like, why do I watch you scream? I'm like, oh, I just figured it out.
Starting point is 00:52:57 It was one of those. Did you point at the screen like, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio? Up, up, there it is. Yeah. Yeah, no, I do that all the time. I do that Washington Simpson's too. Nice. [♪ Music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in background, music playing in I also love that Pike just didn't want to be in a relationship anymore.
Starting point is 00:53:26 So he hit her with, it's not you, it's me. We should focus on our careers. Goodness. Number one calls him out for it. Yeah, yeah. I really enjoy Pike and Luna's relationship. It is wonderful that she is comfortable enough to just call out his BS. And everybody needs somebody like that in their life.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Yeah. Yeah. I have you. I'm glad it's her. Yeah. Yeah. I have you. Brad has the baby.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Sure. I'll take the baby. But Brad, do you call out the baby? Sure, I'll take the baby. But Brad, do you call out your baby's BS? I just change your diaper. I'll dare you. Yeah, pretty much. I'm like, why are you crying? I just fed you.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah. And your baby's age, those like three things that they need to be able to live in that kind of bliss. It's either crying for the diaper, crying for food, or the crying for sleep. By the way, I love that babies will cry because they're tired. Just go to sleep, baby. Just go to sleep. Will you try to impress? I'm sorry. I came in hot. I have PTSD there. It's like an episode. Yeah. Hey, listen, at some point, I'm fully expecting the enterprise to go through a downgrade. Like, there's no way. They have a freaking fireplace in Pike's quarters. Yeah. Come on. I think, uh, I think you're going
Starting point is 00:55:06 to have to get over it. Kirk lived, Kirk lived his, his quarters were like a box of shoe box. Uh-huh. He didn't even have his 3D chest table. He had to go to a different room to play that. Yeah, we, we, we, we, we find out what the clean-outs look like then. Yeah, didn't we go over this? Wasn't that basically blackface? Yes. Okay. So I saw a meme the other day where it was like saying how TNG
Starting point is 00:55:39 was basically somebody just falling in love with like shared carpeting and all the beige. And then they described the, what's the other universe? Is it the Kelvin timeline? They described what if Apple owned Starfleet? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha really good actually. Can you share that on Twitter? Or I'm sorry, can you have me share that on Twitter? Because you don't have your Twitter. Yeah, if I remember, I'll do that. So guys, I don't think we actually rated any of these episodes yet.
Starting point is 00:56:15 We haven't been rating this series. No, no, we didn't. No, if our good or host, I know that. But I mean, like as far as this episode goes like I enjoyed it but I think tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow was a better episode overall. Really? Yeah I mean this was a pretty another basic plot and I can't fault strange new worlds for doing that since it's episodic and I think they're executing pretty well. But there wasn't really anything about this aside from the canon nods to the cage and the menagerie that
Starting point is 00:56:53 really stood out to me. So it was fine. It was fun. But I don't know that if we were ranking these, I don't know how high it would go. Well, we've, we're four episodes deep right now. Do any of these top as your favorite for the season? The second episode.
Starting point is 00:57:17 The second episode, the low and older. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard to top that one. I think tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow would come in second. Yeah. Yeah, like Like and this happens with a lot of shows and this isn't a complaint But you you have a show that comes in Very strongly with one central character and a lot of peripheral characters and it gets rave reviews
Starting point is 00:57:43 And then they do a second season and they realize that having one central character makes things a little bit difficult. So they spend a season flushing out the supporting cast. And it's a necessary evil because to get to season three, you need to have that supporting cast have some substance to it, right? So season two kind of takes a hit in quality to make season. So when season three comes around in theory, like that should be as good as season one, but with an ensemble. Yeah. And that's kind of where I feel like we're at with this right now. And again, it's it's not a complaint just an observation because you can't just have Pike be the focal point of the show. Star Trek has become an ensemble show, and it's at its best when it's that way, because
Starting point is 00:58:31 it gives you an opportunity to explore these characters further in depth, and that's what they're doing here. And sometimes it hits really hard, sometimes it doesn't, and that's just part of the ebb and flow. Season 1 set the bar so high. It wasn't a season one hailed as like the best Star Trek show. A lot of people had it in that conversation.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I think it's right there with me, but I think to Truist Point, like not every episode is gonna be like that when you'll see it's like, oh, it's a solid 10 type of mentality. And then also to keep in mind is that not every episode is necessarily tailored for you as an individual. Like my taste are gonna obviously be different
Starting point is 00:59:15 than other peoples. And I think they also try to do these different variety to pull in potentially new audience. different variety to pull in potentially new audience. Yeah, I would agree. I mean, if we're being honest though, if this was a show all about Pike, I'd still watch it, 10 seasons in. Just keep the hair, just keep the hair.
Starting point is 00:59:39 We can just call it Pike's Peak. Yeah, no, I'm, I mean, I would totally find with a full, you know, show strictly about pike, but I like that they're flushing out these other characters, you know. Yeah, and they're, I want to know. They are. Well, because they have 10 episodes in last season was so focused on pike, you know. So it's, they are. But they're devoting a full episode, more or less. I mean, well, they can't even say that because they didn't do that with Ortega.
Starting point is 01:00:14 So they gave her like half an episode. Yeah, that was in time. There wasn't time in the first season. But what I mean was that taking their time is in the very first episode of season two, they hinted at the Gorn were mounting this Offensive and that they were gonna be the the main baddie of season two. That's the impression I got I haven't seen the Gorn since they have mentioned it
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah, I would hope that they may be like throwing little sprinkles here and there being like hey You know, we've got some weird communications from this area But then they don't mention it in the rest of the episode because it's not important, but it ultimately leads into some of that. Like that would have been really nice to see, but I don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:00:52 There's something that they've been doing in recent Star Trek's with the intro with the logo how they have the Enterprise Swooping in or if it's a different show, they have a different chip swooping in. They did this with Lower Decks, they did this with discovery. There's something in the background of all of these that is distinct and unique to that series. And in the Stranginal World Season 2 one, there's something that appears to be a comet in the top left hand corner, and I'm going to bet money that that's gone related.
Starting point is 01:01:28 All right, well, I mean, I don't have a lot of money to go in on that bet with you, but I mean, it's recorded. And I'm hoping that, oh, hang on, today is Saturday, July 8th. If Drew's rights, Brad has to give him money. Ooh, how about this? Wait, what? If Drew, hang on, I know. If Drew's right, Brad has to move back to Chicago. That sounds fair, right?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah, sure. It's all about how I was, you know, tell the wife, hey, we gotta move, I lost a bet. So, it should be fine with it. It should be fine I just another row and that another just just by her just by her something nice I'm I'm excited for the next few episodes guys. I'm hoping that we finally get that lower-decks live action show because I know I'm so excited. I've gone way too long without lower-decks content. I may have to watch it today
Starting point is 01:02:21 Well, I do some Photoshop work Do we have a title for next week's episode yet? Let's see. Yeah, didn't they release your title? Yeah, they're the title. Yeah, they're the title. Shurrades. I swear, I'll shout.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I don't think it is. Well, I mean, maybe I was pronouncing Laon's name wrong in the entire episode. Well, no, I was so... Shurrades. Shurrades, in this case, is correct pronunciation of this. Shurad is a person. Singular version, not plural. Okay, so Drew and I are both right.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Don't do that. Well, no, because the episode name is sure it's. So, you're wrong. Yeah. Well, let's create a disagree. Hey, I should jump on my handway. I completely BS to that answer to you guys. So, I don't even know if I'm right.
Starting point is 01:03:15 So, listeners, it's your job to figure it out. What? No. Objection, your honor. We're gonna get like six tweets. It'd be like, Brad is full of BS. Also, did I use objection right? I've been practicing in like normal conversation.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Are you playing, saying, what was it? Phoenix Ray? Phoenix Ray, Ace Attorney-A-Law. No, I just been watching a lot of like judge, Mathis. No, judge faith. I've been watching a lot of like Judge Mathis. No, Judge Faith. I've been watching Judge Faith. Who? Judge Faith, man. Judge Faith. No Judge Judy. Of course, because Judge Judy started Judge Faith. I did an internship for People's Court. Judge Faith is a TV show.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Her name is Faith Jenkins. And is she a real lawyer? Yeah, no, she's a real judge from New York. She was a litigator in New York. So, I don't know. All I'm saying is I watch a lot of that. I say objection a lot because I watch it. And I think I'm getting the hang of the term objection.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I think I'm okay. I'll keep practicing. Anyway, hey guys, in two weeks, we'll see each other again. I look forward to it, Majid. No, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Drew loves GD. I'm GD. For now, you have. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Thank you for listening to this week's episode of yet another Star Trek podcast, a part of the Retro Sessions Network.
Starting point is 01:05:13 This episode was recorded on July 8, 2023. It's hosted by Brad Drew and Majeed. Majeed also takes care of our social media. Brad takes care of writing our lovely synopsis for the episodes. And me, that's true. I'm responsible for editing out lawnmower sounds from my recordings. Still kind of bitter about that one. Anyway, we do have some people who would like to thank.
Starting point is 01:05:41 First of all, William Grubbelar for writing our beautiful music, orp speed, and to the stars, which you can hear at the start of this episode as well as the interstitials. Check him out on SoundCloud, there's a link in the show notes. I'd also like to thank George Rattau for making us look like Lower Decks characters. You can find a link to his Fiverr if you'd like to look like a Lower Decks character as well. He's wonderful to work with. That's awesome, awesome work.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Folks, if you want to follow us on social media, you can do that. If you are so inclined, there are links to all of our social medias, including our brand new threads account, which have no idea if we're actually going to do anything with you. But anyway, we have one. It's there.
Starting point is 01:06:21 So should come along and follow us there. We have an Instagram. We have a Twitter. We have a Facebook page. We have TikTok and YouTube. And all of the links are in the show notes. And of course, we have a website yet another stpod.com. Check us out there.
Starting point is 01:06:42 That's it for me. We'll see you next time, folks. Thanks for me. We'll see you next time, folks. Thanks for listening.

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