Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 053: (SNW S02E09-E10) Subspace Rhapsody & Hegemony (Dual Review)

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

We've reached the end of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Season 2, and we're wrapping it up with two very, very different episodes. We've got the epic musical "Subspace Rhapsody," and the epic cliffhanger "Hegemony." Is music the answer? Can anything stop The Gorn? Too bad they didn't try singing against The Gorn... We're taking a short break to recover from the season finale, plus get caught up on our production cycle for Season 2 of The Original Series. Stick around - we'll see you in a few weeks! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | BlueSky | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

Good day, everybody. Welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I am your host for the day, Brad, and as always, following to me, the two most spectacular friends a person could ever have. My lovely, lovely, lovely friend, Majid, he is here to my right. How you doing there, buddy? Hey, buddy, I'm on your left, actually. Upwards. You're on top of him. No, no, you're on top.

Hey, we, oh no, you're on top. No, that's for phrase. And of course, it's always my friend, Jiru. How are you doing there, buddy? You can't tell by the sadness behind his eyes. He is exhausted. Look at him. I'm always exhausted. You know, it's funny because like I hear you guys complaining about your babies and all this stuff.

And I'm just sitting here just perpetually exhausted. Nobody asks me how I'm doing. I hear my two. I hear my two. I hear my like where's Drew? Where's Drew? Not how's Drew? When was the last time you saw Drew? You saw Brad before. You saw me last. I see every time I close my eyes. I think I'm gonna come back. That's a little creepy.

I mean, you could have reciprocated a little bit, but I or whatever. You just use let me hang. You know that so I love this there. Yeah, it's not quite it, but yeah, it's there. So that was everything being anything new with the two of you guys. I got the offense installed. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. You joined the club like I did. I joined the club and I was overwhelmed with emotion

because you guys know, I've been busted my butt all year with those projects. Well, all projects, friends in the bulldozer and getting things cleared out. By busing your butt, let's clarify here, you're busing your butt by hiring people. I hired for the fence. The certain projects I won't do, yeah, right,

let's clarify that part. But when it came to the bulldozer, and clean the land out, getting the existing fence down, like that was all me, but... I didn't think they'd allow you to drive a bulldozer. Isn't that like a state law? So maybe bulldozer? No, but G's allowed to drive the bulldozer, isn't it, like a state law? And so many bulldozer?

Nobody jeez allowed to drive the bulldozers. I mean, I'm no lawyer, but I've watched a lot of suits. I think that I can argue the fact that I can drive it if I rented it. I can also drive it like I stole it, but that has, which is exactly what you did. Drive it like you stole it. I mean, not, not actually stole it, but that has which is exactly what you did. I drove it like you stole it. I mean, not actually stole it. Well, we don't really know that, do we? I mean, we don't.

I wasn't there because I wasn't invited. That's, that's, that's, that's take a second on this one. Hey, Drew, you want to hang up this weekend? Oh, no, I'm working. I'm working 18 days in a row. Oh Man, that sucks Drew. Wouldn't you have off again Christmas? I wish I had Christmas off I went to a I went to Long Island retro gaming X-bow this weekend. Oh, how was that? It was a lot of fun. I bought a bunch of video game soundtracks

and vinyl, which was pretty cool. Oh, wow. I got this cool badge and a pin and a patch. And generally had a good time. That's good, mate. You deserve it. Treat yourself. Yeah. You know, I didn't get to stay as long as I wanted to. We had some family obligations while we're out there, but that was fun too, although I love my in-laws, but they are exhausting. Do they listen to this podcast? Nope. They would get upset then if they listened to it. No, they know how exhausting they are. They're aware. They're aware.

They're fully aware. They're fully exhausting. And my wife is aware too, she'll tell you. We got the Connecticut gaming expo coming up in a aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it.

I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it.

I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I'm so aware of it. I like him. Yeah. He's good. I like him.

I don't think I'd ever recognize him in public. So I think what I do is like the term ranger did. He carried a picture of John Connor. I just carried a picture of some of the pitch. Well, I actually ran into him at the con. We were hanging out a bit too. And that was pretty cool. And my buddy, my buddy Nick, that's an alias.

I don't like that you have friends outside of this friend group. I know there's been a lot of jealousy over the years man. And it just doesn't seem to get any better. In a death match, this friend group can beat up your other friend group. Why would you want to do that though? Me, Frank, Wayne, Frank's. Sorry, Frank's, Wayne, bread. We could beat up the other front group.

But why? I would just bring a case of beer. I'd be like, hey, here you go. Just be friends with them. Just be friends with them. You know, I'd probably do that because Brad can't fight. Just be friends with them. Like, they're really cool people.

You've met them. You've actually met them. Like they're really cool people. You've met them. You've actually met them. Oh my God, I've helped them help you move. Yes. I met them. Oh, they're great friends. And at a barbecue. Memorial day, like three years ago.

Yeah. I remember a day, Claire's day. all white people look the same to me. Oh my God. How dare you read my mind? No, please, please God, no. Oh, I know, no, no, no, listen, editors, listen, that one in. I'm really on my own mistakes and leaving yours in. Oh, man.

So guys, I watched three episodes of Star Trek today. You should be proud of me. Three. Wow. How did you watch three? Well, yeah, we had subspace, rap city, hegemony, and those old scientists. How many times have you watched those old scientists now? I'm up to five.

Are you really? Wow. I'm up to five. I love live action, Boimler. I love live action, Mariner. I can't get enough of them. Oh, God. I would have loved to see live action, Tendi.

I've watched that episode once. Oh, my God. Great episode, but you know, I'll wait for the next rewatch of this series. Yeah, it was it was a it was a missed opportunity for ransom to to not meet number one. Yeah. Right. Jury O'Connell, that would be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his his wife, supermodel, Rebecca Romano-Conno. Does she hyphenate? I didn't think she hyphenated. I don't know.

Rebecca O'Connell? Rebecca Relade. I thought she was just Rebecca Romane. I thought so. Hmm. Romane. Okay. We take a journey on the Starship Enterprise in a tale filled with spirits' speculation and singing.

The crew start this marvelous journey investigating a subspace fold, spark the mad scientist's theorize he could triple the speed of subspace communication with this strange phenomenon. However, the results are a little bit not really working out so well. And UHRA is now back to being a switchboard operator. Because, you know, it's rather than routing a call directly, it apparently takes way too much operating power and is not possible for a assertion. I mean, this is like, you know, a nice little throwback to like the 1920s or whenever phone lines were invented.

I thought it was cool. Yeah, get off the bread. Get off the bread. It was great. Much is occurring on the enterprise. Pike and his girlfriend, Captain Patel, are trying to figure out their vacation together. Chappell is looking for new opportunities, which will cause her to leave the ship.

And James Kirk beams on board to shadow number one. With Kirk on board, Lonseng is acting a bit of sort due to her past encounter with him. She's got the hot form. Clearly, and, you know, what could possibly go wrong? Spock having little luck with this experiment, Pelea suggests transmitting music into the fold and who picks the show to him. This sends a wave through the enterprise.

Pike takes quick action, asking for status reports from the ship. Spock provides a set of check for engineering in song. This leads to each corresponding station providing a musical update of their statuses. Gentlemen, what did you think of that opening line man that opening sequence of the whole Hey, you know, this is the musical episode Do you want my I don't know to expect oh go ahead buddy. Sorry. I was gonna say do you want my my hot take now or at the end I want to know maybe maybe I should wait actually. No, no give it to me now. You don't tease me with it Give it to me now, you know, I think we should wait. I think we should wait. I'm gonna wait. I'm gonna wait.

Oh God, but, but, you know what, Hey, Mijee, you know what? What about that intro though? The the acapella intro for the the actual starsher enterprise. Oh my God. I loved it. You guys ever watched pitch perfect before? No. Yes. Jesus true pitch perfect before? No.

Yes. Jesus true. That's strike one. I mean, just give me the merits now. It's going to be one of those episode. Is it really? Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't give you, I don't give you the merits. I give you strikes. Well, whatever. You get unlimited strikes and they don't mean anything. I like the merits. Well, I mean, we can go with the baseball theme and like three strikes you're out. Three outs for a minute. Well, you're the editor. You can just edit out the strikes. True. Anyway, so pitch perfect, Drew, which is about a bunch of acapella groups and they compete on the big stage. This sounds like the plot of where in the world is Carmen Sandiego.

The video game? Well, I mean, the show is based on the video game. So sure. So the Achapella group has to find Carmen Sandiego by looking at the end works. Have you ever heard of a rock appella? Do you ever watch the show? No. Oh my God. Hold on. You never saw the show where in the world the Skirmish and Diego. I mean, we literally 30 seconds ago just established that.

All right, we'll talk about this later, but I'm blown away. So let's move back on to this episode, gentlemen. The crew attempts to solve the reason why they keep, or they start singing, Kirk and Una venture their way into Jeffery Tubes, and of course, that leads into a song, and a little bit of a dance, which inevitably leads to lawn seeing them together and she seems to be feeling very mixed emotions. Jealousy maybe or anxiety, I'm not really sure but of course that leads into more song and we kind of get like a music video-esque type sequence here that felt very I don't want to say country music, but it felt very country

music to me. The Kirk brothers eventually worked together on a plan to collapse the fold. However, things only start to get inevitably worse and it starts to spread through all of Starfleet. The crew identify that deep emotions seem to cause the thing to occur. Pike proposes the idea to destroy the folds, but after some quick calculations from Spock, he comes in collusion that by doing so would devastate the Federation. And wouldn't you know it? The Klingons have decided to show up at that time to destroy the fold. Lawn decides to finally tell Kirk what happened in the past and how they connected between each other.

And that's kind of also when we find out when Jim is in a relationship with Carol Marcus who is pregnant. That's I exclaimed loudly. I was like that spoolshit. Well, well, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Break it down to me. True. It's it's kind of spoilers for the future. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Break it down to me, true. It's kind of spoilers for the future. Which future?

TUS. Well, the movie's more specifically. Which movies? The movies from TUS. So number two? Yes, two. Yeah, the wrath of God. That's when we learn of Carol Marcus. I think that's her actual first appearance. It's her first appearance, yeah. And yeah.

Wait, was it didn't he not know he had a kid? Correct. But in this, he did. Correct. But in this he did correct Huh, I can see the mental math going on in Brian's head right now. It's adorable I don't know I'm just yeah, they kind of just they they went off course on that Did they you haven't seen anything as to reason why do you I have not know Well, I mean hey, it sets it up for the actual future so I guess in some sense Well, let's do a little bit of math here

I think it's like 20s when there is first appearance. 2259. Let's say this. 2259. And then let's say. So do you actually meet the Z. Yeah. So he was like 25. Okay. When we meet him. So so attracts, it it tracks like if we're looking at the timeline then yes. But yeah, well, I'd have to go digging, you know, for the specifics, but the gist of it is that, you know, this kid knows of Kirk but never meets him and then eventually

does meet him. And it's a plot line that runs through a couple of the movies. More than one. Yeah. I want to, I really want to just jump ahead and watch some of these movies. Yeah, I mean, there's a case to be made. If we're honest, honestly, you could watch all the movies and still go back to two S and it really wouldn't impact it too much.

It would disappoint you greatly, however. In what way, what do you mean? The movies are with minor exceptions. The movies are so much better than the original series. Okay, that's a fair statement. So I mean, you can, if you want to go ahead and watch the movies series. Okay, that's a fair statement. So, I mean, if you wanna go ahead and watch the movies, Magi, go for it, but yeah, the TOS and comparison,

I feel the movies are better too. Yeah. Okay. Back to Ujhara and Spock. They devise a plan that if the whole crew spontaneously sing together, they will be able to break the hold that the fold has over them. And through a suggestion of Pike, Ujhara gets the crew to go into a full ensemble of the entire crew. Yeah, with a show stopper of a musical number and of course the help of a Klingon boy band, they're able to break the free of the subspace hold. Oh my god. Essentially sum up the episode Klingons make a great boy band.

Pike apparently is very difficult to go on vacation with and Spock has mad singing skills. Listen, the... I figure who said, I think Kirk said it. Kirk, um, Pike said, nobody wants to hear a Klingon sing. I want to hear a Klingon sing. Now it's at the beginning of the episode and then when they broke out and sang, I lost it. I think I jumped into the chat immediately and said, oh my God, just, just, just, just, just, just, can't, client. Is the best thing ever. I last, I last my ass off when that happened.

I'm not gonna lie, that was, that was just, just hilarious. They see it as dishonor. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It's a crazy thing. I enjoyed, I really enjoyed that part, but I feel like that was a missed opportunity because it would have my mind been more appropriate to do Klingon Opera than a Klingon boy band just doing some sort of wraps. Well, the Klingon Opera has been established as something that they're into. I think the boy band aspect was a little bit more of a modern take, plus it was unexpected

and for them, like ultra-designurable. So I think it fits the vibes of everything Clans would be against. But from a in-universe standpoint, and what we know of the Klingonson, yeah, sure, I would agree that the opera, I think, would be a better choice. But I mean, this is an episode that clearly didn't take itself very seriously. So why would the Klingons take themselves seriously, too? It's, it's clearly K-pop. Brad got that.

Drew, should I have to explain it to you? I know what K-pop is, but then why don't you chuckle? It could be a sensible chuckle, like Brad gave me a sensible chuck. It's K-pop, it's clever. Editors. So, so Mr. Editor over there. Yeah. Yeah.

I get the feeling that you may not have truly enjoyed this type of episode. Guys, I hated this episode. What? I hated it. I hated it. I hated it. I tried too. I do not like musicals.

Oh my god. I do not like them. In a general sense, as in any type of musical musical or just more of only TV musicals. Um, I guess both. I have more of an appreciation for stage. I think, like, I've seen a couple of musicals at the theater on Broadway, things like that. And I appreciate them more. When it's TV or movies, I really dislike them. And I quite honestly would rather see any single play ever other than a musical, if given the choice. So that said, I tried to go in to this with a open mind, and I couldn't wait for it to be over. I could not, it couldn't end fast enough. The only thing that I genuinely enjoyed about this was the Klingon part. And that got that got a chuckle out of me. And then it was over. And then

the episode went on for another 10 minutes. And it was excruciating. Well, I know I'm not to get you for your birthday. A vinyl pressing of this episode soundtrack. Please don't. Please do not get that for me, man. I'll take that. Well, I mean, it's over. It can get to it first because you know, You don't have to do that for me, man. I'll take that. Well, I mean, so everyone can get to it first because, you know, Brad, if he gives it to me, I will give it to you.

So for cheered. You can't give it to me, man. How? I just did. But before you pivot to him, though, um, let me just add that, well, I strongly disliked this episode. I do respect what they did, right? I can appreciate the hard work, the cast is clearly having a good time. I think everybody had a lot of foam with

this episode. So for those that love it, like I'm really glad it exists, right? And I hope you guys enjoyed it and I hope anybody is listening, enjoyed it. I will never, ever watch this episode again. Really? Ever. Okay. That hurts me. Magina, how did you... I love musicals. I love musicals. I love musicals.

So the first time Ethan Peck belted out the solo, I had this giant spall of my face and I put down my phone, my phone was down the entire episode. I put on the surround sound, my daughter and her cousin were here. And they're like, what is happening? I said, shut up. I said, shut up. Let me let me enjoy this. And then my my my daughter's cousin, she's like, Oh, so and so Spencer from vampire diaries. I'm like, who you know, this guy? He's like, yeah, yeah, that's, you know, he's from vampire diaries. I don't know, he gets sing. Like, that's cool.

What was referring to Ethan back? Kirk James Kirk. You know, he's from vampire diaries. I don't know he gets sing Like that's cool Referring to Ethan back Kirk James Kirk Really yeah, but by the way Drew mentioned it briefly In our in our chat. We should have gotten a Kirk brothers duet Yeah him him and Sam yeah, that would be great. I Listen, I really don't see the point of Sam being an apprised. I don't. I'm sorry. I still don't. I, I don't know, see the point of Kirk James Kirk being on the enterprise. There is one. Yeah. Well, and we'll get into the next

episode. I have problems with that other thing, but we'll get to it. All right. Well, listen, I love musicals. I think a lot of that is Lin-Manuel Miranda's fault. So Hamilton in the Heights, the Enquanto soundtrack, Moana, every other musical that he's contributed to has been my jam. Secret time, part of my workout playlist is songs from In the Heighten Hamilton. So my shot by Hamilton, the Hamilton soundtrack, it gets me through my jump rope.

Nice. I can't sing it because we don't want to get, can we get them monetized? We're not. I can guarantee you that any of your singing probably would not get picked up by the things that determine that. And we don't get any money anyway. So I was kind of hoping you'd talk me out of trying to sing, but I'm not gonna do it anyway.

Nope, I'm not gonna do it anyway. I have nothing to prove. Listen, Drew, you want strike three? I mean, why not? Nah, I'm not gonna leave you strike three, but I love you too prove. Yeah, listen to you want strike three? I mean, why not? No, I'm not going to be your strike three, buddy. I love you too much for that. Well, thank you. But you should say, I'm not giving up my shot. I am not throwing away my shot.

Then I don't know the rest of the words. You're doing much better than I am, man. I think it's a little bit of translation. Oh, man. Great episode. Great reasoning, by the way. I just thought they're going to, like, encounter like this mysterious alien, like, Q. And Q makes them sing everything. But it was actually a scientific reason for it. And I did't, was this our first interaction between James T. Kirk and Spock? No, no, they had a minor interaction in previous episode. Okay, because I know they Kirk mentioned to Lon that, you know, Spock would want to, you know, do something different with the chest move. But I think think I remember this one being the first that they actually talk to each other.

He's like, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, that thing you explained was almost understandable. Good job. Great interaction. I wouldn't be fully opposed by the way, guys, of a show I wouldn't be fully opposed by the way, guys, of a show after strange the world tense, where it's basically picking up where TOS ends or even before TOS, I don't know, like something with this, something that's not going to waste this cast, you know, get some more Ethan peck up the screen, get some more, um, I don't know any other characters. I have some comments on that one. I'm going to hold off until the next episode though.

Well, I would just, I'm just going to disagree with you on that one, man. Like the cast is great, whatever. The cast is great, but like I'm sick of rehashing the original series. I'm sick of them trying to rewrite, or just color in all the lines, you know, before and after it. There's so much Star Trek that has yet to have been even broached. Like, what happens after the movies, right? Like, there's a whole, there's like what, over 100 years, 150 years, worth of Trek, two whole enterprises that have never even been explored, you know,

not to mention everything after that in the future. So there's so many places they can go and they have this, they feel compelled to constantly go backwards and it's just very frustrating. It's the law of diminishing returns. You're going to want to keep going back to the well. You're going to want to keep going back to the world. You're going to want to keep going back to the thing that made you money, that has made you a household name. It holds a safe bet. It is. It is.

It is in the hand type thing. Yeah. It's the reason why I'm not sure if you guys saw the flash movie, but it's the reason why the flash had all those stupid, got off of cameos because they played it safe. They played on people's nostalgia. They worked on the did cameos for properties that have already been established and just made them a lot of money. It's a thing. It's not necessarily. To me, from what I understand, the flashers in doing so well. Oh, the flash sucked. But in general, though, that theory usually works.

I think Christopher Reeve actually said it too. You're going to want to keep going back to that same well, but the more and more you keep doing it to recapture that same feeling, you are going to run into the law of diminishing returns. Yeah, I agree in that in that sense. And I think I think with rehashing the same characters is probably, it's going to keep going that direction. And I'd rather see new stories, new characters. I like the idea of, was it Star Trek Legacy,

where they have some of the old crew, but more of the new. And to me, that is more appealing than going back to a reboot of QS. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, but still, I would just love to see them explore the Enterprise B, the Enterprise C, or some space in between that. I think there's so much untapped potential.

Yeah, completely agree. I did love this episode, however. Me being a music, musical type of person, I really enjoy any type of whimsical type stuff like this. I never really realized how much I needed something like this. Honestly, I know this will upset you Drew, but I was hoping that this would be a recurring type of theme

and would love to have a musical episode each season now. Drew, yeah, Drew, we drop the podcast at that point. Well, I mean, here's the thing though. It's like, you know, people like to eat pizza, but if you eat pizza every day, it's gonna get kind of gross after a while or same with steak or whatever, right? You know, you have to sprinkle these things in periodically

otherwise they lose their specialness, you know? I get it. I've done chicken breast every single day for weeks. I don't want to say I got sick of chicken breast, but you know, you got to give us some different flavors every once in a while. It loses its appeal. So if there was a musical episode every season, we're talking about diminishing returns there, I think you'd start seeing them pretty quickly. Oh, I would totally still be up for another one. Okay.

The one thing I did find out that Ensenmo apparently is not really much of a singer. Yeah. And thinking about the episode, I feel that you could tell which actors were more comfortable singing than others, because they, they really focused on the characters. So, like, Lawn, Chapel, Spock, and number one, like, those were clearly actors who really enjoyed or wanted to be able to sing, whereas you got EmBenga and Pike kind of more off in the background. EmBenga was even like just a few, was more spoken singing as opposed to actual singing. Didn't he like come right out in the episode and say that he doesn't like singing or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Even if EmBenga wasn't comfortable with singing, you know, it didn't really show through. It worked well for the story, especially with Pike, right?

When Pike was talking to his girlfriend on the main screen, you know, it just got really unfriendly. Oh, that was, that was so great. I loved that moment. Yeah. Pike's reaction to when everyone started singing down the bridge, which is great. It was just really good reaction. I think it's the kind of reaction Drew would have. Like what they were going to do. And the interaction between the two, just hung up on her. Yeah. You're heard by the way, just singing at the end, just humming the song, got everyone scared. Oh yeah, yeah. See, this is the type of episode I would more likely watch over and over again

because I just love the song in it. I, if I have an opportunity to purchase the soundtrack for this, I totally would. I think it's, I think it's available. It's available. Yeah, it is. Oh man, I told you to get that. Yeah.

Do it, man. I'm gonna look it up and see if it's on Spotify right now. Spotify. Yeah, it's not Spotify. Do you have Spotify? Yeah, of course. I will drop you a link. Thank you. I appreciate that, buddy. And then I'm gonna burn it for more of it. As a fun note, Drew, you pointed this out to me, is that the Klingon who showed up in this episode was the same actor who played Hemmer. Yeah, Bruce Horak is the Klingon commander on screen. I didn't even realize, looks nothing like, he, I mean, he's wearing a ton of makeup. The character's name is Garcock, by the way.

Wait, who do you play? The Klingon commander. Oh, really? I didn't notice that. Yeah, Bruce Warwick. Well, I mean, he's under a pile of makeup, so, you know. Well, I don't know he looks like anyway, so. Right.

I would really hope they keep bringing the actor back and they just different outfits. It seems to be something they're, they're kind of doing, you know. I mean, he mentioned that he was going to be back in season two in some capacity. I don't think, you know, zombie hammer was on my, you know, scorecard, but I can assure you that seeing Klingon captain wasn't either. The, this is a very common thing for Star Trek, too. Just bring back actors in multiple different roles.

What's that guy's name who played wayune? Jeffrey Cums. Yes, he's been in so many different series and played so many different characters. It's just phenomenal. And it's funny when you look through through some of the credits for some of these people, they just keep popping up over and over again. Vaughn Armstrong, I think, is the one that holds the record

for the most appearances. You would know him as probably most mostly as Maxwell Forest, Admiral Forest from Enterprise, but he was also like, he's a Klingon, a Romulan, at least one or two Kardashians. He's been a Voyager, DS9 Enterprise. He's been in like 14 different things, it's absurd. So he's a popular one. I mean, there's a few other actors,

it's just like every time you see him on screen, it's like, I know them. Yeah, yeah. Bruce Horex he used to be the one for Strangely Worlds, which is, I love it, it's great. Oh, I think it's wonderful. Yeah. Well, I can't forget these, what these, uh, what is his name, um, the director's brother.

We just showed up again this season. Clint, Clint Howard. Clint Howard. Yeah. Another one. He's a repeat. Yeah. Right.

Same idea. I, I was really fanboying with Clint, man, that was just such a, like, I was like, oh my god, it's the guy. It's such a small role, though. I know, but still. It's still like anything else you guys wanna talk about before we move on to the next one. I cannot wait to move on to the next episode.

I'm so done with this episode. So gentlemen, let's move on to the season finale. We joined the USS Kayuga. Kayuga, right? Kayuga? I think that he was spelled it. I know you did and I was just like, well Kayuga and orbit of Parasas beta. Why didn't you do that one, man? You should have done that one. I figured that one was easier No, it's par nasa some an ass. Okay. I see how it is. Oh hold on. I'll fix it for you Par nasa

Asa a world modeled after Small mist midesterened towns. Well, not necessarily a world. It was just like a few, there's only a few thousand people there. I think, say, around like six thousand I think. I don't know, maybe, something around that. It's got a barbershop, a soda shop,

and absolutely no way to defend itself from attackers. It lies outside of Federation space, what could possibly go wrong? Well, Nurse Chapel hitched like with the Kayauga on her way to her fellowship, Captain Battelle, and company Swing by Pernasse's Beta to give them vaccines. But only half the population believes in science and chose to complain about the federation on social media instead. Too soon. No, no, I'm laughing at my own joke.

No. How you can tell. Chapel returns as a kayak after chatting up with Patel. Patel gets a long distance call from Pike. I'm sure the rates are through the roof because of that. The two have some friendly banter and just when Pike confesses to missing her, yeah, the signal dies.

It just kind of goes flat out dead, cuts off without really much of a warning and all of a sudden we see a shuttlecraft crashing to the planet followed by a massive ship entering the atmosphere. Back on the Enterprise, Uruha is getting a distress call from the Kaiguga. They are under attack by the Gorn. So it only took like 10 freaking episodes for that final The Gorn are coming from the first

episode. You know, that's all, that's all took. Pike orders the enterprise to Pernassus beta and they hide behind a moon where they see the Kyoga has been destroyed. They quickly realized the sensors, transporters and communications are all being blocked by an unknown source. As they scramble to come up with a solution the Gorn arrive and apparently drew a line across the middle of the system claiming like Parnassus beta as their own plus half of the sofa and the TV you know kind of like what the heck man you guys are jerks. I guess that's where picture and picture come into play.

I mean, you'd have to, but I mean, then who gets a smaller picture, you know? You're gonna have to like do rock paper scissors for it or what's the deal? Whoever has the remote is the true winner, I would say in this situation. That's true. That's true. Against the orders of Admiral April, Pike decides to go commando and take a group of volunteers to the planet with some experimental weapons.

Hey, they take, sorry. They take a ship. You know what, go and commando means? Yeah, without any underwear. Okay, all right, so make sure we all say fate, Jared. I mean, there's no evidence for against Pike's underwear. So I think because Pike is such a military man, he's gonna want to keep things like in check.

So he's gonna have to go wear some boxer briefs. When I was thinking of a commando, I was thinking about more of like along the lines of like Arnold Schwarzenegger going commando type thing. Yeah, Arnold Schwarzenegger probably went commando unless he referring to the movie, Command O, where he went to the movie. Uh-oh, the movie.

Okay, you can't say. You cannot say somebody's going, Command O. And not immediately have this person think, oh yeah, he's letting no hang out. I don't know, Drew, was that what you're mind what? Nope, not at all. He's a liar. He's such a liar.

So yeah, Pike goes down in a shuttlecraft that looks like debris from the Kaigoga or tegas is totally enjoying her first away mission and is out of bat freaking crazy man when she's flying that ship down to the planet. Even Pike had to be like, hey, or tegas, maybe you should pull up at this point. She's like, no, no, don't worry about it. I got this. I think it's like 200 times. Pike the X test pilot. He's scared.

He's scared. Yep. So Pike or take us on Benga and Sam Kirk make their way to the Stroyd town. A giant device from the Gorn looms over them. They believe it's to be the source of the interference. Laan tests the new phases on a single, young goreng with great success.

However, that success kind of lives really short when a giant group of them show up. The crew run to the barbershop because Pike needs a haircut. Hmm. He pick a very inopportune time, but you know, when you gotta go, you gotta go. What, wait, wait, wait, what are you doing at the barber shop? Get a haircut.

I mean, it sounds like he has to go to the bathroom. Well, it's Pike's peak. He needs it trimmed. But you said he had to go. Yeah, to that barber shop. But you may have said he had to go to Yeah, to that barbershop, but you may sound like he had to go to the bathroom. Who's on first? Who's on first?

I did not say anything about him going to the bathroom. I just said he has to go. Said he has to go. And you got to go, you got to go. I've never heard, look, I mean, I'm bald, but I've never heard anybody refer to that in a way that implied the need of the haircut immediately. Maybe that's because you don't really have much hair.

Hey, Drew, are you trying to do that thing when I did with Commando? I mean, it sounds like a juicy thing, but. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You are doing much better than the Jesus. I was, I was, I was even bare. Oh, you're so lucky you're in Atlanta, so I would do nothing.

I wouldn't ever physically harm you. Let's continue. So the Gorn are oddly enough not fighting for dominance. They're kind of going with the flow, which Lawn points out. The crew of the the weight team, you know, pick up a distress signal. And they fall into a human-made corn trap. And they look, look over the trap. It's, you know, it just basically kicks up a force field. And it's created by a Scottish Starfleet officer which turns out to be Montgomery Scott. The future chief engineer of the Enterprise, Scotty explains that his ship, the star diver,

was observing a star when the Gorn attacked them and he barely escaped alive by hiding in plain sight. I guess you could say. Yeah, yeah, like some kind of a transponder that he used on the ship to mask his signals and make it look like he was also a corn. Mm-hmm. He's a miracle worker. He can do whatever the hell he wants.

Well, that miracle worker leads the crew to Battalion Company alive, bit of a rough shape. So there's a few dozen survivors hanging out in a diner, I guess. Yeah, so diner, right? Diner. Diner. Scottie suggests to Pike and Battelle that the transp transporter probably is still okay in the shuttle and that's really what helps them escape from the corn.

Back on the Enterprise, two more corn hunderships show up kind of causing some concern with the crew of the Enterprise. They do feel that they have identified the source of the jamming signal. So they kind of devise a plan to crash a ship into the planet without the gorn knowing it's intentional. This basically involves attaching two rockets to the damaged or mostly destroyed Kayauga saucer section and having it go directly into the atmosphere, which is apparently a huge feat of strength because you need to line it up. And of course, none other than Spock is the one who volunteers to go. Take care of this.

He's pretty adamant that he is the only one that's capable of doing it too. You know, I think I didn't mention it earlier. As a side note, is that it is believed that chapel is dead at that point, or more than likely dead, because she beamed right up to the Kauga, and I say that only because we find out she's not. So right around this time, she wakes up

and apparently is the soul survivor from the attack. Right around this time period. And I'm sorry, I think that's a little bit of a stretch, if you ask me. Her being like the only individual who happens to survive. And she wakes up finally at this point after how much time is elapsed. I think the Patel mentioned it was like 24 hours when at some point in the episode. So it's to me, it's a little bit of a stretch. Yeah, I mean, it's implied that she's the only one that made it out alive, but we don't know that for certain. You know, there might be others, well, I'll never know,

because the saucer section burned up and smashed into the thing. Yeah. Well, before we kind of get into that, chapel kind of goes through our own thing, and we actually see like full grown corn, I think now. That was good. That was our first experience.

And I want to comment. And, uh, if you think about the Gorn in this episode and then the Gorn in TOS that Kirk fights, Kirk would be annihilated. I'm sorry. Well, yes. Well, I mean, unless you throw a boulder at him, nobody had a boulder at all. That is their only weakness. Or that gorn that we saw in TUS is like the grandpa gorn and is like the eldest of elders type thing. It was a leader, right? Because both both Kirk and the gorn were leaders. Yeah, the captains of the ships. Yeah.

to go on over leaders. Yeah, the captains of the ships. Yeah. Anyways, chapel ends up finding a way, seeing Spock coming at the ship and things kind of get intense. There's a Gorn there and eventually she makes it to a

space suit and she goes out to meet Spock, but apparently there's another Gorn in space and there's a fight sequence between Spock and the Gorn and with Chapel on the side. Chapel ends up helping out by barely grabbing a phasering shooting the gorn in a shoulder. Something. Oh, and then, yeah, and then, um, Spock ended up smashing the gorn's face mask and causing some sort of decompression and suffocation. Well, back on the planet, though, uh, Pike Patel and Skyde make their way to the shuttle. They approached by a gorn and Patel kind of stands in front of them, being like, yo, I'm going to be Chris Pratt and you're going to be the velociraptor and I'm going to steer

you down. Did you just make that up? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Brad's Mark Fredwood. Wasn't that bad. It turns out that they'll she's a infested with eggs. She's in trouble, right? So that makes me actually wonder how many of the other survivors are infested with eggs? Well, probably more than they are willing to realize. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the whole reason why they backed down and Scotty right around that period.

Sky's like, yo, something's coming in. You got a duck and then the guy who crashes into the, the monolith. Yeah, the monolith, right? And pikes like yo, three to beam up directly to the sick bay, beam up the rest of the crew, we see, we see the three of them beam up, then we see other people beam up. Um, and we think things are, are good. Uh, but no, it turns out things are not good. Uh, we get, but they'll thankfully to sick bay and she, uh, is getting treated there. Scotty goes to Pella and says,

hey, we gotta hook this stuff up. When Pike gets to the bridge crew, turns out all the other survivors, they're beamed out somewhere else. They were beamed to a gorn ship. Did you guys notice that the beam pattern was different? I did. I noticed that the beam pattern was different? I did.

I noticed that and I was like, ah, that's kind of weird. Why is it like that? But that includes what? Sam Kirk, Manga or Vegas, Lawn, basically anybody that wasn't Patel or Pike or Scotty or Chappell or Spock. Yep, yep. And so at that point, uh, Pike has to make a decision. Fight, flee, try to get his people back, what is he gonna do?

Some of this episode to be continued, to be continued, to be continued. The worst, most hated three words, a Star Trek fan ever has to deal with. You know, I was not expecting that. Neither was I. I was not expecting them to do a to be continued. Yeah. Neither was I.

How'd you feel about that though? I I honestly was like can we have season three tomorrow? Yeah, yeah at this rate you won't have season three for three years. I know Well, we don't we don't know You know at what point in production they're in, but obviously the writer strike and the screen actor strike putting a serious impact on that. So, yeah.

I tried to shoot my shot with a Anton Mount on Twitter a couple of weeks ago. And it took a break from Twitter entirely because of the strikes. Yeah, are you sure he didn't take a break from Twitter because you tried to shoot a shot with him? Mmmmm, yeah. I mean, I hope so. Right, so, right. Way to make me think about it though. Yeah, that I tell you a secret?

Like, seeker's time? I fell asleep with this episode. And I heard this afternoon. This afternoon? Yeah. Yeah, I heard the end of credits. I heard the end of credits. And I was like,

it was like four minutes to get in the episode. And then all of a sudden, I just hear the end of the guy said, what the hell, that's just what I just miss. I suppose you're gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be-

I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I'm just gonna be- I have my other furry child her name is Stella. You've had them for like a year and a half. At what point can we now blame our furry children?

You know, real, real talk though, freaking Metro, like the way he sleeps in the bed with me, it actually causes me back pain. I've tried kicking him out repeatedly and he jumps back in. It's the worst. It's not amused. It's not amused. It's not amused. It's not amused.

But no, I did you actually watch this episode? I did not watch the episode. I didn't love it. I was kind of upset about the Scott review. I'm like, oh, you're not Simon Pegg? You're out of here. You know, he's not going to be Simon Pegg. I like Simon Pegg. Dockham R here. You know, he's not gonna be Simon Pegg.

I like Simon Pegg, Ducimerong. I think Simon was good as Scotty, but I like this guy better. All right, that's right, too, for brass, I don't know that the mayor for Brad. You know, I don't have an opinion either way. Simon Pegg was great, but like, let's, let's just get it out of the way, right?

You're not gonna get the movie actors to play these roles. Full stop. So, you know, unfortunately, Simon Peg's too busy and he's not going to take the pay cut and he shouldn't be in the role. So I used to hold whatever your, whatever your rationale is, he's not going to be him. You know, a good point. I'm going to remove one of these strikes. is not going to be him. You know, a good point. I'm going to remove one of these strikes. Well, thank you. So, so that said, you know, if they're going to insist on bringing all these characters in, which is a problem that I have with with Star Trek right now, like move forward, not backwards, but if you're going to do it, we have to consider how well it's done, right?

I thought they picked a pretty good actor. Yeah, I think so too. He's got a second. Well, I don't know if he is for real. I mean, but, but James doing James doing was Canadian. Oh, well, she. Yeah. Well, she. Let me see if I can find some information on this actor though. Let's see here. Oh, speaking of Scottish Martin Quinnis's name. Oh, he is, he is actually from Scotland. Nice. That reminds me, Brad's big enough Scottish, that restaurant you took us to Manhattan. What was it called?

The Korean barbecue place. No, no, no, the Scottish restaurant you took us to. I never took you to a Scottish restaurant. I took you to a German restaurant. Oh, my bad. Anyway, all right. Cool. I don't know why I thought it was Scottish. Yeah, I'm not sure how you thought that was Scottish either. Mark for it. No, don't work for it. It's like no. Yeah, no. Okay, cool, anyway. I think I'm, I think I'm right there with you Drew.

It's I would like to go forward more or so than just rehashing the origin story of like every single star trek enterprise. Remember, right. What I do find interesting here is last season, they killed off Hammer. And I lost my cool and I immediately jumped into the conclusion that they were going to replace him with Scotty. And they didn't. They replaced Hammer with Pellia, who's been in like four of the ten episodes and seemingly has like absolutely no purpose to be there.

And now here we have another Gorn episode and now Scotties here. So I don't know, I think it's kind of coming full circle, but I would not be surprised if we see this guy on the Enterprise full-time next season. I don't know how they're going to get there, but that's just... Yeah, but Scotty wasn't even full-time on the Enterprise when Kirk was on it. Just who was? No, at the beginning, it's season one. We just watched like 29 episodes and Scotty was only in one or two.

It's on more than a couple. He was in a few, yeah. I mean, he wasn't in every episode, you're right, but I mean, neither was Sulu, you know? Oh, my. You know, I was thinking about how like discovery, they've introduced like side characters that didn't really have much of a impact in the overall story, but they were there occasionally like, the one that comes to mind is Jet Reno. I think jet had like phenomenal chemistry with the cast, but when it comes to Pellia, it's very stale. I don't think she's good fit. I don't think I don't feel it's the

actress or anything. It feels very forced with her in there. Well, it seems like an afterthought to me anyway. So I don't know. I don't really have enough of Carol Kane's work, you know, I'm not familiar with her work enough to say that she's a good actress or a bad actress. I think she's doing fine with what she's given, but I don't think it's compelling and whether that's her fault or the writer's fault, I don't know.

Just not enjoying it. Yeah, unfortunately, I have to agree with you on that one too. Yeah, I can actually care less. Yeah, so I guess if they're gonna have a chief engineer, I mean, I suppose, you know, having Scottie come in as an improvement. I mean, this actor had way more chemistry in the 20 minutes he was on screen, not even.

He was on screen like 10 minutes. He had more chemistry and was more compelling and entertaining than she's been this entire season. Yeah, I agree. I wonder, what if you feel that way because A, you know the character. You're familiar with what the characters are supposed to represent. And in a way, even if it's just subconscious, you're looking forward to that interaction between this character.

There's two legacy characters. Well, I would agree with that, but I'm also against it. So, you know what I mean? I would agree with that, but I'm also against it. I'm right there with you on that, because when he popped up, I was like, oh, cool. And I was like, man, they're really trying to do a reboot, aren't they? That's how it felt. They're preparing for a reboot of 2S. I mean, I'm gonna watch it

because I'm a Star Trek winner, but I would prefer to have something new, something fresh. I am with you 100%. Like, go ahead. And I also feel like I'm afraid that they're gonna start pushing more and more issues that will interfere with like the, the canon, I guess you could say, because if you think about what we just talked about, Carol Marcus,

Kirk knows she's pregnant. And I remember in the movie, he's like, I have a son type of thing. It was like a whole big thing. Yeah, I mean, I haven't seen Star Trek 2 in a while. So I'm trying to recall if it's a reaction of like, I knew she was pregnant, but I never met the child. So, oh, it's a son, or you know, could have easily have been, oh, it's a daughter. But, you know, is it that or is it,

I had no idea she was pregnant? You see, like, if it was more of the the first part that would just mean like curts and hats right like he's a horrible person because he knew She was pregnant all long then and it just was like yeah, I never figured out you know what the kid was or anything I didn't it does give him the vibe of like a deadbeat dad. Oh, totally. And it was just my opinion of him. We just go tank. Really would.

Right. But with focus on this episode though, how did you guys feel about the Gorn interaction? Though it was scary as hell, dude. Another horror episode to finish us off, I guess. No, not quite. So the Gorn are hyper intelligent, right? Seems like it.

So they were trying to hack into the ship's computer? It seemed like it would be on there. Yeah, it's it's unclear what that Gorn was doing, but I'm sure he was trying to get some information. Heck, or man. Yeah, I don't know much about the Gorn outside of them having a weakness for boulders. I don't know nothing about them. I think you're kind of in the same boat as me and Drew. I don't really know much them. I think you're kind of in the same boat as me and Drew. I don't really know much other than what we've been shown so far. Well, we've seen the entirety of the Gorn on screen.

They didn't, they, I don't think there were ever any Gorn episodes outside of arena in any of the series. It could be a mistake and maybe there's something in Enterprise. Oh, it's maybe an Enterprise. But I mean, we've certainly gotten more development in Stranger than Worlds than we ever had anywhere else. So Gorn was in TOS Arena, TAS, TimeTrap. Okay, so that's an enterprise.

Enterprise, in a mirror darkly part two. Okay. Discovery, context is for kings, but it was only the skeleton. Right, inside the account. LD, which one's LD? Lower decks. Lower decks. Much do about boiler, model only, and then change new worlds.

So that's all we have on the Gorn. Yeah, that's all of their appearances. Yeah, so it's been, with the exception of arena and strange new worlds, it's just been one-offs and side things. So there are species that's been largely untouched. And like from that perspective, I think it's totally fine that they're, they got to reboot a villain like why not the gorn, right? Because there's, there's nothing for them. And, you know, quite frankly, what

they did on the original series was a joke, you know, but that's what they had at the time. And, you know, for whatever reason, they did it that way. It is what it is, right? So why not give it a special, you know, fresh approach? And I think they're doing a great job with it. Like, they feel like a villain to be feared in a way that we haven't seen since the Borg in the next generation or the Dominion, in my opinion. So according to this,

according to memory alpha, lower decks has had the most appearance of the corn. But that was probably just drawing, it was like drawing in or something. Well, like models, apparently just this is model only. So, I should do about them, them drawing in, that's all it would be.

An embarrassment of duplicars, I guess a Gordon was there as well, but not in model form. I don't know. And Veritas. I've been watching lower decks while working. Well, you'll have to report back to us on the Gordon appearances. All right, I'll have to report back to us on the, uh, the Gordon appearances.

Uh, all right. I'll run through it again because you told me to and you're the editor and I respect you. Please don't cut me out of the episode. You got it. Uh, that being said, I did not like hegemony. Why? I just didn't. I just did not find the, you know, we've done this, this emotional

parkour before in terms of tone. I just didn't like this one. Every, every other episode, I enjoyed, I didn't care for this one. A lot of coincidence, you know, right. Coesidentally, there's chapel. Again, we know, there's chapel. Again, we know in there's chapel wasn't going to die. But I guess speaking from the normal first time viewer, they probably didn't know that chapel was going to live into TOS. But me, as someone who's seen chapel in TOS, I knew, okay, well, she's not in danger, clearly.

The coincidence, though, of her seeing Spock in the ship outside the ship was, you know, again, just coincidence. The suit, the one suit being available for her coincidence. You know, it's just, I just, I didn't care. I didn't care. It wasn't a fan. Maybe I'll give another shot. Maybe when I'm watching those old scientists, maybe I'll jump to Hedgemoanie again. I mean, I'll see. I think staying awake is a prerequisite for enjoying any episodes. So I only fell asleep at the end. How about you? How did you feel like Hedgemoanie? Was it a good season finale? I think it's as good of a season finale as we're going to get from Stranger World.

Yeah, I mean, they've established the Gorn as the big bad of the series. And yes, they, again, diminishing returns, right? If you have them every episode, they lose their impact, but they foreshadowed it in the first episode of the season. They established how deadlyed it in the first episode of the season. They established how deadly they are in the last episode of the previous season, right? So to wait a whole another ten episodes, a whole another season, basically, to see them again and to drive home the point of how serious of a threat they are, I think they did a really good job with that. There's stakes, you know,

batel is infected and could very likely die. You had a ship which is of the same caliber as the enterprise destroyed by the Gorn. You know, that's supposed to have some weight to it. You have people that are in need that they're struggling to rescue. So I think they did a great job with that. Now Pike is faced with making a decision of whether or not he's going to rescue his crew or heed the orders to Starfleet. And I think we all know that he's

going to rescue the crew. But I'm glad that they didn't try to rush that in and squeeze it into this episode because it just would have been, it would have felt rushed, it would have diminished the impact of all of this stuff. So it sucks having to wait until season three comes out, but I guess we simply look forward to in a way that we didn't have from season one to season two. We just knew that, hey, season two is coming out. I can't wait to see it. Now it's like, I can't wait to see this story get resolved. Yeah. This reminds me of the classic TNG, Voyager, and Devespace 9 stuff where they were typically end the final season episode as like that cliffhanger. Yeah, I mean, I think they're really trying to tap into best of both worlds with this.

Yeah. And I think they mostly succeeded. Mm-hmm. It sucks though, because even the producer is like, you know, it's taken four years to make 20 episodes because of COVID, because of the strikes. You know, it's just, it's really bad. Yeah. So, four years did make 20 episodes. That is so wild to me.

You know, as much as I would hate to not see a season three, I would be okay if they did like a standalone movie, or they did like a two hour special to finish up the season for the series. Well, they got Greenlit for another season. It's just bad timing and it sucks. But everybody's on board. Yeah. So it'll get done.

Well, you say that with the strikes and all that stuff, I've seen some shows get canceled. That is true. I mean, I think it's happened already, hasn't it? Yeah, there's a few shows that are on the chopping block, unfortunately. But this hopefully will not happen and we'll be able to maintain many, many more seasons to go. Brad, what did you think of this episode? I actually really enjoyed it. Have a very horror-esque type of feel to it.

The Gorn were more present. It gave me some more questions about how the heck Kirk survived when he first fought a Gorn realistically. But I thought it was fun. I thought it was enjoyable. The Scotty bit was a little... It was exciting and it made me sigh at the same time. I enjoyed the actor don't come wrong, but I would prefer a much more fresher approach to some of this

stuff rather than just being like, hey, let's get the crew back together and do it again. We got an alternate reboot of 2S in the Kelvin timeline. As much as that was a thing, I'm okay with them not doing it again. That's kind of where I'm at this point. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out, you know, but I'm excited about it. Like, I'm we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out. But I'm excited about it.

Like, I'm looking forward to it. I just wish they would be a little bit more gingerly with pulling from the old cast. Or, you know, not the cast, but the old characters, I should say. Yeah, yeah. Completely completely. I'm not one. So anything else you either would like to say, what do you thoughts on the season as a whole? Real quick. I think as a whole for me, the season did a very good job. There were a few episodes that were okay,

that had some just, and unfortunately the moments tend to be involving Pellia. That I think was probably the most unfortunate thing, but overall, I really enjoyed it. I loved the crossover event, I loved the musical. I liked the time travel episode. There was, oh, the courtroom drama one too, was phenomenal.

That was a really good one. I think that's gonna go down as a classic. I completely agree. Like, I, don't get me wrong. I love the crossover and I love the musical one, but that one I feel is like one of those very intense, well done acting. I could even see them getting like awards for that one. But overall, I really enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah. If I had you, how about you? If I had to pick my top three episodes for this, in order to be those old scientists, subspace rhapsody second,

and then add Astra Aspera as my top three for this year. I love those three episodes. Yeah. Actually, I think I'm right there with you. I think those are my top three for this year. I love those three episodes. Yeah, actually, I think I'm right there with you. Like, I think, I think those are my top three, except I think subspace and those old scientists are just reversed from me. Yeah, Sherades is also up there as a pretty good one.

I like goofy stuff. What about you, Troy? Yeah. I mean, Sherades, I thought was a lot of fun. I kind of dug tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. That was a fun time travel one, which was a little bit on the heavy side. Add Astra for Aspera was great. Those old scientists was great.

Under the cloak of war, I think as heavy as that episode was, I really liked that. With a surprisely jacked in Benga. Yeah, that was a really deep episode. So it's hard for me to just narrow it down to three, but I think my favorite would have to be those old scientists. Yeah. One thing that I kind of felt was a little funny. The season felt to start off with like a slow start, the broken circle. That was just kind of okay compared to a lot of the other episodes. And

I think of the other episodes, the only other one that I really didn't care for was among the Lotus Eaters. Yeah. Yeah. That was kind of, yeah, fallen out of memory. I would say lost in translation for me for a lot of memory. Yeah. But you know what? I think like, you know, you have 10 episodes, not all of them are going to be, you know, five out of five. So I think there are some shows that can pull it off. Well, you know, Star Trek has never really been one of those. Well, was it in McCarthy's in three like that, wherever you ever saw it was like a banger for you guys?

For the most part. Yeah, it was. But a lot of that relied on nostalgia too. in a way that this one isn't able to. And I'm not saying that that's the only thing that worked for Picard, season three. But that was a big part of it. But the writing was also strong too, you know, and that's also difficult because that is an overarching story that takes place, well really, you know, going back to next generation, they're kind of picking up off of that.

So hopefully we have to wait another four years for an episode of, uh, crazy worlds. Ooh, buddy. Yeah, Lordex come here. of, uh, crazy worlds. Oh, buddy. We have a lower next come. Yeah. Yeah. Soon. And I'm pretty excited about that. It's less than a month or is it about a month away from us? Less than September something. Yeah. So that's I'm looking forward to.

Yeah. Yeah. I may have to, uh, I may have to watch another season of it again. But I mean, that said, you know, we're going to be going back to the original series again. We have season two of the original series. And I don't know about you guys, but I was thinking about trying to catch up on some of the episodes before we start dropping new ones. I think that is a good plan. So that being said, I don't know when,

but I guess as far as releases go, we're gonna be on a slight hiatus, right? I think that's a good idea. We will be probably back before the end of the year. I can tell you that much. Oh yeah. But maybe a few weeks, maybe a month at the most. Yeah.

I'll just check air table and whatever Drew tells me to jump on and watch an episode. I'll just do it. You got it. But you'll do it at the last minute. That's how it's like 30 minutes before the episode. That's how it stays fresh. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Then you fall asleep. Yeah. Oh my god. I listen, nursing this pinch nerve. And I can't sleep at night. I haven't talked to him during a pinch nerve. We're going to see this.

You see this, Mijid? He's going to be playing this world's smallest violin. Oh, man, he's always going to talk about the pinch nerve and how much it hurts. It's like,. Oh man, he's always gonna talk about the pinch nerve and how much it hurts. It's like, I can't bench anymore. I feel weak. It's a point of pain for me, Drew.

Emotional pain and it's into the physical pain. There's the forms of exercise. Please, so I'm saying. Yeah, cardio. Yeah. on the same. Ech cardio. Ech cardio. Focus on your legs, man. Hey, you leave my legs out of this. I have nice quads.

I just don't have nice calves. I have nice queer. Let me show you my quads. Actually, I can't show you my quads right now. I'm perfectly happy if you don't take your pants off. We're in shorts. But you would like to see my legs. Anywho, enough of this getting kind of R rated.

Yeah, why don't you go E and have some food, Maggi? I ate already, I ate before we came out, buddy. Oh, we're gonna eat more. I don't eat more. Well, gentlemen, is there anything else you would like to recap before we uh, part ways now I'm good. No Well, thank you listeners and we will catch you next time with season two of TUS look forward to having you listen with us. That was lovely. That was adorable Brad.

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