Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 054: (TOS S02E01) Amok Time

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

We're back, baby! Speaking of babies, Spock wants to have a baby really bad, and the only way to do so is to face his best friend in a fight to the death on his home planet. Spock goes through adult puberty in classic Star Trek episode "Amok Time!" Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | BlueSky | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

Hey everybody, welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I'm your host, Drew, and I am joined by two very lovely, very sexy, very dear people. Oh man, I've missed you both. First of all, Majeed. Majeed, what's going on, buddy? Hey, I missed you too, and you never really response to my selfies with a selfie of your own. I don't like selfies. Men don't take selfies. Men take... oh.

Oh. I... Gym selfies are like... men take gym selfies. Well, I... I... My house is my gym. I don't go to the gym. I work out in my garage, my living room, my backyard.

Ah. I wish I could see it. Hmm. I'd also like. I miss you so much. It's been it's been a while. Also, well, we can't forget about Brad. Brad, how's it going, bud? Brad. Brad.

You told him what time to be here, right? I think Brad slipped into a time for a text. Oh, last time I saw Brad, he was playing hide and go seek with his daughter. I think he's wanting that game started three weeks ago. Oh, no. Oh, no, this is how we win the time war. This is how it starts. 2024 is off to a bang. It really is, man.

And what a way for 2024 to start with us returning to our rightful spots behind the microphones once again. It has been, what, six months, five months? Somewhere around, it's been a long time since you and I have sat down to record. Yeah, not for lack of trying. You have to go through couples podcast therapy. You know, I think it really helped. Yeah, I mean, you and I passed at least.

Right. Hang on my certificate on the wall. Oh, yeah, I do see it back there. The Spider-Man comics and the pictures of your dog. And also just my dog. Hopefully he'll be quiet for the next hour. So I make recording easier for you. He's doing great so far. I haven't heard anything. Right. I can't wait to edit.

It's going to pick up every voice. Oh, I can't swear on the show. You can can swear this show, but we'll just edit in with a with a whoosh sound when the door was or Yeah, over the the boasts and whistle I think I was using the communicator chirp That's a good to yeah, that's good. I'll figure it out. So what if you've been up to man? I'll figure it out. So what have you been up to, man? Honestly, I it feels kind of shallow, but all of my achievements in the past six months have just been gym related. They've just been gym related victories.

Although actually, wait, no, remember, I've been doing photo shoots. Right. So I've shown you my work. I'm not the person in front of the camera, I'm the person behind the camera, so I've had some successful photo shoots and I'm getting so much better at Lightroom and Photoshop and just taking good pictures properly exposed saves you a ton of time in the edit room.

Fixed in post is not really something that people should be doing. I'm not sure if he knew this. I am actually going to murder you. Buddy, how would you have been up to? Well, since since our last conversation on the air, I've done some traveling, went to the Grand Canyon, went to Las Vegas, did some hiking in the Grand Canyon, did some kayaking, I flipped the kayak over. On purpose?

No, no, people don't do that. It's not true. It's like flipping a table. Yeah, no, no. It was it was absolutely terrifying. But no, I'm here to tell the tale. Fun story. Maybe you'll save it for another time What else do we do? I feel like that's it I feel like I'm I feel like I'm in my own time loop quite frankly because I Get up and I go to work and then I come home and then I get up and I go to work and I come home And it's just been one of those kinds of situations where even though my day is off. I have a very little motivation So here we are

Well, we're in our our mid 30s. So sure. Yes. Yes, we are. We're in our late mid to late 30s. Okay. Buddy, we're in our late 30s to early 40s. Yeah. All right. Okay. We still watch Star Trek. But no, I mean, you know, what else is for us to do? We've we've picked a path in life. And we've just aggressively stuck to that path.

I am really aggressive at sticking to paths. I don't even know what to say about that. Yeah. For those who can't tell, Brad isn't here at the moment. But you know, it's still early. He should be able to join us before we're done recording. Hopefully. I mean, we did tell him seven o'clock, so maybe he just mistook, you know, for a different time zone.

Right. Yeah, you know, time zones are different than a TVA. Exactly. What do we got this week, buddy?? Well we are jumping back into the original series and we are picking up with season two episode one of mock time. Dr. McCoy tells Captain Kirk that Spock is acting erratically and after throwing Nurse Chapel soup out of his quarter Spock yells and requests that they head to Vulcan immediately. Our favorite Vulcan science officer seems to be more emotionally compromised than usual. The Enterprise crew is left raising their eyebrows. But before

reaching Vulcan, Spock's secret is out. He's in the throes of Pon Far, a Vulcan mating drive that makes puberty look like a tea party. To pring, Spock's bethrove decides the perfect time to shake things up and throws a curveball. She doesn't want to be married to Spock after all. She invokes a special ceremony called the caliph and makes Spock fight for her. And she's as Kirk as his opponent. So what do you think of the episode so far, man? First of all, What do you think of the episode so far, man? First of all, to Pring.

In the original series, looks so much like the strange new world's counterpart. Like I was I they look like relatives. They look like the same matrix, the same actress. And it's just so it was so mind boggling to me. It caught me off guard. I really wasn't expecting the similarities and not just in the in, you know, how she looked, but the performance. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very Vulcan like very Vulcan like very

just stoic, you know. Did you chuckle when when Kirk was talking to Spock in Spock's quarters and Spock is asking for the time off for the for the detour to Vulcan. Spock grabs a knife. He hides behind his back. He's like, hey, if you don't, you don't improve this, I'm going to stab you. That's going to stab you. That's been over. Well, well, he got his chance to stab him anyway, so it all worked out right?

He did. He, uh, he definitely unlocked his inner future of a it's yeah, want to practice his stabbing. Oh my goodness. So, so the prank sets up this whole mating ritual and she makes Spock fight for her. And she chooses Kirk as her champion as her opponent as Spock's opponent. And Kirk thinks he's just down there on some kind of diplomatic mission trying to help his buddy out and you know,

take care of him, send him off to get some. And unfortunately, he ends up getting dragged into the Vulcan equivalent of a love triangle. Now he must fight for his life in a surprise duel. It's like Fight Club, but with pointy ears. Giant can openers instructed to open up cans of tuna left and right. I mean, instruct the fight to the death. Meanwhile, McCoy says some nonsense about how he signed up for space medicine, not space soap operas.

You can always count McCoy just be snippy. Oh, I got so catty. The grumpiest, the grumpiest doctor ever. He majored in medicine and minored in cattiness. I love it. I love it. The duel between Kirk and Spock is a roller coaster of emotions, but Kirk is struggling with the heat and atmosphere of Vulcan. So McCoy asks to Pau, who is overseeing the fight, to get if she can give Kirk an injection to help him breathe a little bit.

To Pau agrees. This battle then spirals out of control. It makes you wonder if they're fighting over to Pring or the last slice of peace in this hall. The spot gets a better Kirk and Kirk dies. So we think what a way to start season two with killing off your main lead. Right. I mean, just pull the bandaid off, get it over with.

Yeah, right. Yeah. No more show. That's it. Shows over guys. So magically, once he kills his captain, Spock just magically snaps out of it. And he realizes that to bring is actually using Spock in this entire situation because she's more interested in another Vulcan by the name of Ston. And she's not interested in another Vulcan by the name of Stan and she's not interested in being married to him anymore. Well, Spock ain't got time for that.

And he's more than happy to give her up, let her down, run around and desert her. Nice. He beams back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. He beams back to the enterprise, fully expecting to stand for court martial for killing his commanding officer. Imagine your defense at trial. I'm sorry, I killed him. I did it all for the booty. The what? The what? The booty. I was I was strong at you, man.

Oh, I know. I was trying to do a limp biscuit. Yeah, I know. I know. I don't know the lyrics. That song came out in like the 90s. Oh, right. You can take this booty and you can shove it up your. Yeah.

Shove it up your. Yeah. All right. Virtual high five. But yeah, that's just a really bad corp, Marshall. Who would defend him? I don't know, but I'm sure we can find somebody. A simple country lawyer, perhaps, or possibly Troy McClure?

No, I'm Troy McClure. No, Lionel Hutz. Lionel Hutz would with Defendant. Your honor. Oh, man. Well, the good news is, McCoy's got one more surprise up his sleeve because Kirk isn't actually dead. It just turns out that McCoy slipped him a mickey to fake his death and help Spock win.

Spock has one last outburst of emotion. He yells Jim's name and he's thrilled to see that his friend is still alive, but he immediately realizes the error of his Vulcan human ways and goes back to stoic face, controlled emotion Vulcan immediately. To sum up the episode, Spock survives puberty. The Enterprise is the galaxy's weirdest dating app. And McCoy has left muttering. I'm a doctor, not a Vulcan marriage counselor. So I guess really, Panfar is just a friend we met along the way.

Only if you swipe right. Well, he's swipe right. Is that the way you're supposed to swipe? I have no idea. Actually, I don't know. I've dating apps came out well after I was married. Yeah. I don't know if I would survive in an era where I have to use dating apps.

I could survive. Yeah. But I could survive in like, Panfar. Like, I could fight to the death over the last life of Supreme. I mean, pizza. I could fight to the death over the last slice of supreme. I mean, pizza. I could. I could.

I think I've gotten to the point where, you know, with the gladiator style weapons, which, by the way, that definitely invokes some American gladiator. Now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah, it also invokes a cable guy if I'm not mistaken. Well, the cable, I can't hear the theme from this episode without hearing Jim Carrey belt it. Right. Right. Every I mean, that's, you know, it's like, it's an iconic theme to begin with. And then he kind of brought it to.

You know, public awareness, I would say yeah That that's that could seen the battle scene. It's been It's been parody So many times. Well, I can think of two of top of my head one is a Simpsons the episode where Barney and Homer are training for NASA. And for some reason, part of the NASA training is having them fight to the death. And then obviously the cable guy with Jim Carrey

and Ferris Pula. Nice. Those are the two that immediately spring to line. I don't know. Maybe our listeners have other examples they can share with us. Checkoff makes his debut on Star Trek in this episode. Yes. Special.

Yeah, not really. He's just I don't know, like, like I mean, look, I think it was special for us. But as far as a character goes, it's very unceremonious entry to the show. And, you know, I'm sure as a viewer is kind of unclear whether or not he was going to be a regular member of the cast going forward, you know, back then. I personally loved it. It felt like he was a member of the crew this whole time, like right away. And him and Sulu had some wonderful chemistry together, which we will get to see continue, you know, well into the movies.

I always thought those two were a fun combination. Tricking buddies. I don't know. I imagine. combination. Um, tricking buddies? Um, I don't know. I imagine, I mean, sure, they better friends than you and I. Hmm. The answer should have immediately been no. Well, I have to think you shouldn't have to think about it. It should be automatic.

Like, no, our friendship stands a test of time. We haven't been in six movies together. We've been to six movies together. Have we? Those four, five, six, six. There you go. Yeah, OK, you're right. We've done various voiceover work together.

Yes, that's true. Yeah, yeah. And we're also drinking buddies. done various voiceover work together. Yes, it's true. Yeah. Yeah. And we're also drinking buddies. Yeah. Well, you don't drink. So I just for you. You drink for me. Right now I'm drinking tea. I've uh yeah, no, I think our friendship is better. And I'll fight them for it. Will you fight them in Caliph? I would fight them in Caliph only at their ages now and not

from when they're in their prime. I think I have an advantage now. I don't know. George D'Ka looks like he probably still whoops a mess. Is Chakhov still alive? He is. Okay. It's Scotty that passed away. Well, quite a few of them that passed away. Right. But Scotty was the one replaced with Walshie. Yes. What did you think of the episode, but I enjoyed it. Um, I was kind of a little skeptical going into this and I might be a little bit of a cheesy one.

Um, you know, but I think that's a really good job of showing a vocal culture for the first time in earnest, you know, in Star Trek, right? Establishing some odd but believable rituals. You know, in any opportunity that we have to see actual Vulcans outside of Spock, who, you know, is only half Vulcan and see their behavior and stoicism and control over their emotions. I think it's a good opportunity to kind of contrast what Spock brings to the table, which is that human element, you know. He tries to hide it, but it slips through.

Yeah. He slipped through the table. It does. And, you know, seeing him react to, you know, Kirk being alive, I thought was an interesting touch, a little over exaggerated on the acting side of things. But but I think it served its purpose, you know. Is that like the first time that we've seen Spock and Kirk like show like true friendship. On the show. I mean, I feel like that was something that hadn't really been fully developed in season

one. I mean, you see them play 3D chess. But that I mean, you can do that with an enemy. Do you think do you think Kirk and Spock are better friends than us? Yeah. Spock died for Kirk. Technically, Kirk died for Spock here. It's fair. Spock went back in time for Kirk. Kelly, Brad's doing.

I wish I knew where he was. No, I'm sorry. In terms of like the friendship hierarchy, we're definitely better friends than Sulu and Chekhov. We're not better friends than Kirk and Spock. Like that friendship is like lifetime, you know? It's one of the classics. Almost like a love story when you think about it.

How do you feel about Kirk getting hoodwinked into fighting Spock? I think it was. It was so cheesy. Right. It's so telegraphed. But I mean, I guess I'm saying it's telegraphed because I know how the episode goes, right? Right. I think seeing it back then when there was no.

There was no like TV previews or clips or anything like that. I think it's a shocker, you know, because no one knows what you're going into. Right. So if you had to consider all that, I think, OK, yeah, not that's that's pretty shocking. Mm hmm. It's a it's a pretty good way to. Put this. With this animalistic side, would you call it of Spock?

Yeah, I think that's a good way to put it. Yeah, I mean, it was a good way to kind of show it. His also his eyes running in the back of his head. I thought it was a nice touch. Spock's. Yeah. Yeah. He got like psycho eyes. Yeah. Yeah. He definitely has steroid eyes. Steroid eyes. Yeah. It's a real thing.

Don't ask me how I know. I'm not on the trend. I'm not on steroids. No noted. I guess. What would you think about twist, but. Well, I mean, I thought it was unfortunate that to prank felt it was necessary to, you know, play Kirk against Spock. Like, that was kind of crappy of her. You know, she's not a very nice woman. I mean, when you consider what she's been through, and I guess, in canon, right? Yeah.

Or I guess how you guys would say in kayfabe, right? Can I say kayf right? Yeah. Or I guess how how you guys would say in kayfabe, right? Can I say kayfabe? Yeah, we know what that is. Well, for those that don't, it's, you know, a wrestling term. Yes. And it means, well, you know, in in story in the storyline. See, we're by me saying it's kayfabe. We can also reference how Drew had a wrestling podcast. Oh, boy. And throwback.

Yeah, I'm thrown it back and, you know, it's it's all, you know. God, what was the? Oh, Retro Sessions Network production. Well, well, that one wasn't, but but it should be. OK, well, we'll we'll we'll work out the rights and content issues later. Yeah. But no, I think if we're talking about M. Cannon to bring him in through a lot, like she knew that Spock was cheating on her with Chaplin. That's true. Now, we didn't realize that at the time

like of this episode. We didn the time. Like of this episode. We didn't know I was at this episode. Yeah. You know, they've they've obviously written that back in. You know, with with Stranger Worlds. But you know, she she makes a comment about not wanting to let's see here. Let me see if I can find your exact words. I'm in trouble finding it. Give me a moment. To pray. I can't believe you compare it to praying to the last slice of pizza. And the reference totally works for me.

Because you've, you know, you've been hungry and you've been hungry almost to the point of bloodlust. I get it. So Pring says she doesn't want to be the consort of a legend. You know, Spock has become this legend to his people. And she's fallen in love with this other Vulcan named Ston. So you know, she doesn't want to sit idly by while Spock is traversing the galaxy doing all these amazing things. She doesn't want to wait for him. She doesn't want to put up his nonsense.

And we've later come to find out that, you know, at one point or another, his heart belonged to somebody else on the ship, right? Which they've kind of even touched base on in this episode, right? Like this is I didn't realize, I guess that, you know, that was a thing that Chapel had a thing for Spock. I mean, we even in back in season one with the Naked Time, we knew we had we had an idea. But I didn't know it was like ongoing. I thought it was like

one and done like flashing the pan kind of situation. I'm going to try my best not to make that sentence dirty. So we'll just keep it going. Fair enough. So the way that Chapel just kind of cared for him. You know, you have that idea. She made him the special Vulcan soup. And when I say made, I guess she didn't go to the replicator.

She just, I mean, did they have those back then? I mean, yeah, the replicators. Yeah. So I mean, she she quote unquote made it. Well, I mean, maybe she just, you know, plug in the recipe, right? Right. She's a thing. That's a thing. Replicate the ingredients for me.

Well, no, you'd be like, OK, I want you to have this. I want you to make this dish. It's called Majeed special special stew uses one tablespoon of cayenne pepper, one tablespoon of black pepper, one tablespoon of black pepper, one tablespoon of white pepper. It's extra spicy, baby. I thought you're gonna say and a dash of steroids. I don't know why I thought you're gonna say that. I've been gonna keep the

joke going. I'm so glad you didn't. I really don't need that rumor going out. And when Brad comes back, he'd be like, Hey, what's this about steroids? Well, maybe he'll go back in time and stop you. I hope not. Chapel kind of just walking into Spock's room while he was sleeping. So creepy. She couldn't get into the room the first time.

She had to knock and hit the doorbell first time. Yeah, she had to knock. They hit the doorbell. By the way, a doorbell. On Spock's door. Yeah, come on. When has that always been there? These doorbells. I mean, doorbells are part of Star Trek.

Sure. OK. Also, was the floor of the Enterprise hallway carpeted? Yeah. OK, so you did see that. OK. Yeah, so they have this, you know, they have the floor of the Enterprise carpeted and she throws out this purple soup and it hits the wall and it hits the floor. And I'm like, as a homeowner, I'm like, oh, that's like a low pile carpet. And it's going to be so it's going to stain. So I need to get that out.

Scott, sure. Can he just replicate a new carpet? Does the replicators work that way? I don't know. Sure. I would honestly, though, hate to meet the cleaning crew of the enterprise. Well, don't they have like those those dots or whatever they are? I mean, we've never seen one on camera, but like those. Oh, wait, you didn't see that.

That was in discovery. What, like cleaning robots? Yeah. Wow. Even in the future, they're putting humans out of work. Oh man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you know. Hey, I was coming for you, Bob. Yeah, I can't wait.

The only part I hated about the episode, actually, what did I hate about the episode? Nothing. There's nothing I hated about this episode. I thought it was engaging. I thought it was. A classic. Yeah, I mean, right right from the get go, I think it's, you know, just grabs you, you know, it's it's got a it's got a good hook.

Yeah. You know, just grabs you, you know, it's it's got a it's got a good hook. Yeah. You know, and the story is solid and it all, I don't know, it all felt like it made sense. It did. And the best part, not not just a fight, which I do want to talk about, but just McCoy just being a good doctor and doing his job. But I guess still drugging his patients. You know, so.

I don't know. I don't know what they call that in the future, what they call it, malpractice suits. Sure. Sure. Yeah. I'm all I can tell you. about malpractice suits. I'm sure. Sure. Yeah. I'm on. I can tell you. That fight, though, between Spock and Kirk,

Spock is one and oh against Kirk or is it two and oh. He smacked them around so many times. He smacked Kirk. He beat the crap out of him. Barehanded. So they're handed. Yeah. And now you want to give this man a weapon. You want to give this man a can opener? Yeah.

Which he broke. He broke the can opener. What is Bear Hand? He's very strong. He's very strong. Kirk didn't back down though. He did. Well, Kirk is a tough dude, you know? Like let's make no mistake.

His clothes aren't though. Well, you know, he did get sliced. But I mean, I don't know. Like here's the thing with Kirk, right? He doesn't back down from a challenge. He never backs down from a challenge unless there's some sort of a diplomatic advantage to it. Speaking of diplomatic advantages, we almost completely forgot about the part of the story where the enterprise kept getting called away to go to some like inauguration ceremony. Yeah.

And then. Like. They kept ordering. It's like it was like will she won't she kind of thing? And in the end, didn't they grant some the bypass anyway? Yeah. So like it was all for nothing. It all. Yeah, it was all for nothing. It all worked out. Again, modern storytelling, though, I think, you know, they would have gotten denied.

The next episode would have been the fallout of the first decision. But I guess everything being self contained, you had to wrap it up in a nice little bow. Right. Right. The only thing that would have made this more cheesy is if when Spock saw Kirk alive, he jumped up and there was a freeze frame and then credits. Some kind of inspirational music. That that that that. Did he hug him?

I don't remember if he did or not. I don't. I don't remember a hug. Yeah. I don't think so. But I'm surprised he didn't. Like I felt like that's something I probably should have tried. Maybe it would be too much.

I don't know. I think too much would would be, you know. Seeing the rest of Planet Folk and. During Ponfar season. Well, you've seen Zoidberg during his. It's kind of like that. So. That that that conversation, though, between Spock and Kirk, when he's like, I have I have needs, Jim.

Yeah, it's by all. Yeah, we know. Yeah. Kirk is like, oh, buddy, I know all about that. Just come with me. Well, I got you. I'll be your wingman. They say about the Soraya planets, I know. And do you want to give this thing a score? What do you say? I do. I was kind of hoping that we could wait for Brad, but he just he just hasn't shown his beautiful face.

Wait, I think I hear something. Where in the world is Brad? Do you hear that? Here's something. It's not Kylo. Welcome to yet another Star Trek podcast. I'm Brad, your host for the evening. And as usual, followed by my two absolutely sexy cohorts, Majid and Drew.

Gentlemen, how's it going? Oh. Guys. Hey, buddy. I think you may be frozen there, guys. Can you hear me? No. He doesn't hear us. Hello. Hello.

Hello. Anybody there? Hey, I'm trying to record a podcast. I want to tell people what I think about a month time. Is anybody there? Anybody able to listen to me? Oh, for the love of God, man. Oh, oh, hello, kitty. You, you, uh, you want some scratches? Oh yeah, I get do you want some scratches? Of course. She's talking to his cat. Well, I mean, I guess I could talk to you, you know, it's, it's kind of a lonely type thing. But you know,

I got to talk to somebody about this man, like Spock just got way too freaking nuts there. And I don't know, man, you just, you got to just sometimes just let it go. But apparently he just really couldn't let it go or he really wanted to get some with his girl. And he went a little off the walls there, man. It was kind of weird to a point where I just, I don't know. He was disobeying direct orders, not thinking logically. And you know, the craziest thing to me was he killed Kirk. I mean, you think of all the crazy crap that's been happening. Spock was the one who killed Kirk finally. I mean, technically it was a shot

of some sort of thing that McCoy did. I don't remember what the heck that thing was called, but man, you know, just he kills him. He kills him in front of everybody. And me, he did rip the shirt because I guess we do have a rip shirt thing going for us. That was that was kind of cool. But you know, but he kills Kirk. And then then, of course, when he goes back to the ship, he's like, oh, my God, I'm going to go discipline myself and all the other stuff. And then Kirk kind of shows up and he's alive. It's box. Yeah, Jim, you're alive. All emotional.

And then they just kind of end the thing like that. And McCoy's like, yep, totally knew he was going to get emotional. It was such a wild ride. I really couldn't get over it, Katie. You know, it was a very, very fun episode to me. And I think a little bit, a little bit of me is crazy, just like Spock. And you know, it's probably showing because I'm talking to a cat right now. But you know, it's, it happens. You got to talk to somebody some sometimes when you're alone in your house and nobody comes to see you and nobody comes to visit. I know, I know. But you know what, kitty, thinking about the episode, I think

I'm going to give this episode a solid seven. Yeah, yeah, definitely a solid, solid seven. I wish I could tell me cheating drew. I miss those guys. But you know what, kitty, you're a good kitty. Yes, you are. You're a good kitty. Okay, I think I've gone crazy enough for the day. You have a good night kid. I've gone crazy enough for the day. You have a good night. Okay. This is awkward. This is awkward. Let's give it a score. And then we just let.

Yeah, we'll just let that let him go. Well, now that that awkward moment is over. Do you want scritches? Yes, honestly. My skin gets so dry in the winter, and there's a certain part of my back that I can no longer reach. Moisturize, baby. I can't reach that part of my back. I can no longer reach. Moisturize, baby. I can't reach that part of my back. I'm not sure what part you didn't understand.

Hey, I'll help you. Don't don't don't give me hope. How about we give this thing a score? Let's give this thing a score. It will talk about moisturize my back later. You got it. I'd say rock, paper, scissors. Who goes first? Now you go for you go first.

All right, I guess Rock always wins. Oh, so this episode being season two and. The writing staff, the actors, they know the characters that are being developed on screen. They know who they're playing, who they're writing for. They know their strengths, they know their weaknesses. And they know the audience, right? They know what the audience wants.

So coming into this, they brought us right out the gate for season two of Banger. There is no dull moment of the episode. Everything was tense. Everything was built up, you know, to be just edgy or see and wanting to know what happens next. That being said, I don't think it was a perfect episode. So I can't justify myself giving it a 10. It wasn't terrible. So I could honestly go with a 9 for this episode.

And I would give it a 10, but I just don't think that it earned a 10. You know? Yeah. I mean, I think it took him a little long to get to the planet. You know, felt like they were kind of stretching a taffy a little bit. But that said, everything that was happening was compelling. This is a very interesting premise. I liked what they did with the Vulcan culture, kind of giving us that insight into their world for the first time. And it felt foreign, but not too foreign,

you know, kind of reminded me of like old Roman kind of centurions and, you know, that sort of thing. Which is interesting, because, you know, you have these, this culture that prides itself on logic and being able to suppress emotions and you know fights to the death are a very illogical emotional thing So I found that kind of interesting, but I like the chemistry between Kirk and Spock and McCoy They're starting I think to really become the the trio That we've grown to love over the years of Star Trek So that was a lot of fun to see to Pring I thought was that we've grown to love over the years of Star Trek. So that was a lot of fun to see.

To Pring, I thought was well done. It was interesting encountering her. Finally, you know, unfortunately, I saw her in Strangely Worlds long before I saw this episode. So I've kind of come to appreciate the character in Strangely Worlds and now having seen this performance, I'm even more impressed.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's not to discredit the actor for mock time by any stretch of the means. It's to really just kind of reinforce that the actor in Strangely Worlds is doing a great job. So, you know, kudos to Arlene Martell in this episode. And I'm going to butcher this name, like Gia Santu, I believe. Is the correct pronunciation, you know, from Stranger Worlds. Yeah, they're both fantastic.

Yeah, absolutely. I really enjoyed the pow as well, too. You know, we only kind of glossed over her as a character, but, you know, she did an amazing job of being somebody that just radiated power and control. Yeah, so. It's also fun to say, DePau. DePau, yeah, it really is. DePau.

So, you know, I think. I think we go with an eight. I feel feel comfortable with an eight on this one. That's a that's a really good score for the episode. A nine and eight. It's very well deserved. By the way, two more things because I just think that they're fantastic. Well, not fantastic one, but spot coming out and smashing his computer. Oh, yeah. I want to talk about that. It's my new favorite gift. It's when you get an email at five o'clock on a Friday night.

Just want to go home. Oh, man. Like that's that's the feeling I got. And the other thing is Spock looking at a computer at a picture of to bring. Did you notice that? Oh, no, I miss that. Yeah. It was a picture of the brain, but it looked like to bring as a child. That's a part bugged me. Well, because memory alpha touched on that. Let me see if I can find that photo. Yeah, I mean, she she does look kind of a child like, but I mean, it makes sense if, you know,

arranged marriages and all right, like that's how they came to be like they didn't fall in love with each other. Their destiny had been sealed by their parents. So it's not, you know, out of the realm of possibility that Spock would have a picture of her from childhood. You know, we just don't know how old she is in that. Right. I'm also thinking about it in in Canon. Now that I'm, you know, we're also looking at strange new worlds. So in my mind, potentially a.

A plot hole. Also, didn't you hear a meat to bring back in? Change the world's. Or have they been avoided contacts? I don't recall. I don't think there was any reason for her not to have contact, though. Yeah, I think it was if I recall correctly, it was season one where. Spock had to make out with Chapel.

Right. And Supreme was on the line. I I recall. You heard being in the on the deck. But I guess it's something that we can check on before we. Well, we post online. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. But go ahead. No, I mean, Twitter.

I know. I mean, before we go on Twitter, we're like, hey, yeah, no, totally. Yeah, we'll forget. We'll forget. I probably already forgotten. I know. Look, I appreciate you. I appreciate your effort. But let's be real here. You know, one of us can remember to do that. My memory, Drew, has gotten so bad. Yeah, it's because you're approaching 40.

I. Yeah, I'm. And also the stair rides. I don't I don't know if I'm getting a lot of sleep, but I I I can't make that kind of complaint to you. I can't. How much sleep do you get? Um, I'm up at six and sometimes I'm not going to sleep until 12, 31 o'clock. And the only reason why is because my wife is a bit of a night owl. So I'm up kind of waiting for her because you want to spend that time. The only reason why is because my wife is a bit of a night owl so

I'm up kind of waiting for her because want to spend that time But I'm up at six in the morning and she's still knocked out I can't wake her up Right. Yeah, so I mean basically what's what's happening is you're sacrificing sleep the shit So she could sleep the average she wants to. And I think that's that's noble, but you're not going to get the gains you want in the gym. If you're not getting enough rest. Yeah. And I'm not. I'm not so much of me so far. They can only take you so far, you know, and and Ponfar can take you part of that way too, but it's it's not enough. Ponfar will definitely give you the horny jail.

Bulk. It's a good meme. It's a meme I can see in my head. Yes. Yes, indeed. Well, I think that just about wraps it up. What do we got next week? Do we know there's something about a Greek adonis? Oh, yeah, a lot of mourning. I'm not mistaken. Mourning for the Greek God Adonis. Who mourns for Adonis? The enterprise is captured by an alien. Claim me to be Apollo, the Greek God of the Sun. I don't have good

hopes on this one, man. Why? I mean, I just don't. Although hopes on this one man. Why? I mean, I just don't. Although this does kind of look like Welshy and you know Tells his name The cloud from Futurama Melvar. Melvar, he had like three L's. Melvar. Melvar. Yeah. Your microphone broke up. I don't know if you're really yelling it at me or something.

I was yelling at you. Melvar. Yeah, sorry. I just got excited. This does look like Melvar. Or at least some of it does. Anyway, we'll find out and we'll find out together. And maybe with Brett. I mean, if we find him. Have you ever?

I'm sure you've probably seen sliders, right? If I say no, Frank's is going to riot. Oh, my God, Frank's will murder you. Yeah, Frank's would murder me. But I mean, I can also just claim ignorance like I do with the explants. The expand, the expanse, the expanse, the famous book series and TV show by Netflix. I'm going to hang up on you now.

You want to know what happened to Brad? You got the name of the show wrong. All right. Well, that'll do it for this week, folks. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you next week with another episode of Yet Another Star Trek podcast. All right. Good night. Love you. Bye. Bye, Brad. Hey, guess what? We're back!

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