Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 055 (TOS S02E02) Who Mourns for Adonais?

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

Do you want to pick laurel leaves? Would you like to light fires and kill deer? Perhaps you'd like to be stranded on a planet, succumbing to the whims of an ancient Greek god? If so, we have the planet for you! Join us on Pollux IV as The Enterprise deals with a cranky Apollo, in classic Star Trek episode "Who Mourns for Adonais?" Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | BlueSky | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

Good morning. Good evening. Hi. Hello. Bonjour. Bonjour. Welcome back to yet another Star Trek podcast. I am one of your hosts. 33% of your hosts. Maybe 40 with the shoulders, but I'm a cheat. Welcome to my right and 20 miles away from me is my cohort. The other 30 percent. True. How much percent do my calves at?

That's a good point. I'm flexing them right now. I can tell. I can tell. It's like when someone does a Kegel exercises at their desk. It's like their eyebrows race. Like, you know that they're just doing that. That's how I know that you're flexing your calves right now. It's like for you, you know, it makes every time

every time I flex one of my calves, it makes a full time torpedo sound. That sounds disgusting and arousing. And not with us tonight, because reasons unbeknownst to us at this time is Brad, the real Brad. I'll be your Brad for the evening, but real Brad is in here tonight. I heard that he actually was trying to see if he could catch Star Trek six in the theater.

Unfortunately, that came out about 25 years ago. So, you know, I heard that Brad went on a trip to find himself like he saw a forest gump and said, that's a good idea. I'll try running across the country. Some people say he's try running across the country. Hmm. Some people say he's still running to this day. I don't know. Brad has the stamina to run to anything more than his problems.

Oh God, I love you, Brad. I miss you so much. Um, but I'm hoping you hear this, by the way, so I can get an angry text. Drew, how are you, buddy? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. It's, uh, it's been a about 48 hours since we've recorded. So it's a little weird. You're gone. We, we went, um, I don't know, like six months without recording any episodes. And now we've recorded two in the span of 48 hours. Yeah. And I feel that we are kind of picking up where we left off

in terms of recording because there's only been 48 hours. But even besides that, I see you and I talk to you all the time. I still have pictures of you and my dog. By the way, for the person that listeners that don't know drew back my dog the very first time. And my dog just betrayed me and just loved on drew for the 15 to 20 minutes he was at my house. I'm a dog whisperer. It wasn't the whispering that did it.

It was the screeching behind the ear in that spot. Oh yeah. He he loves that spot. Yeah. I have been unable to find that spot guys. Yeah. I try. So look, I'm glad we're sitting down. My my legs are sore. I did like they why I did like they did it like they Wednesday on Wednesdays we do lakes. OK, I thought that like day was every day. Shoulder days. Everything. I think you got it backwards, man. Oh, right, because we we walk in that center like that. Yeah.

Speaking of walking, when I when I do the treadmill now, this is real quick, I promise. I listen to this. I have on this new book. It's called Tomorrow, Tomorrow and Tomorrow. Actually, you have that on my list of books to read. It is so good. Is it? It is so good. It follows this. Well, two friends, Sadie and Sam at different parts of their life. They become video game developers and it's it's just really well written. I haven't fallen in love with a book like this.

Like the way I love this book, I haven't felt since I read Trevor Noah's book, Born of Crime. And that's been my favorite. But this is getting up there. I can't wait to listen to it at any given time. It's just it's so it's so good. That's awesome, man. I mean, I'm looking for something to read.

I'm in the middle of finishing up a book that's just not really I'm going to finish it. I'm enjoying it, but it's not hooking me in that same way. You know, so maybe, maybe I'll give that one a try next. Which one are you on? I'm reading a book from Corey Dr. Rowe. It's called Little Brother.

And it follows a teenager as like the Department of Homeland Security starts kind of like tightening the news so to speak after a terrorist attack in San Francisco. And they just kind of go to extremes and trying to you know quote, quote, keep the public safe, but it's really just backfiring on them and just you know, people are losing their freedoms more and more. And the concept is something that I really should be into, but the book is really geared towards a younger audience. And I think if I had read it when it was originally published, I think I would have identified with it a little bit more.

But as a 40-year-old man, it's a little trouble to, you know, sympathize with the plights of a teenager. Plus he's doing a lot of like, tech explaining, which back when the book was written, I think was necessary. But, you know, this was 20 years ago. And now, you know, everybody knows what the internet is, so you don't need to explain it to people. I wish I shared that same sentiment with you. I finished the Percy Jackson book series. It's geared towards young adults, but it's Greek mythology. And I love Greek mythology, which this episode was also Greek mythology. I was going to say, like, were you trying to segue into this?

Because, uh, the damn. If I told you yes, would you believe me? Yeah, why not? All right, well, I'm gonna tell you no, because I'm not a liar. OK. I don't lie to you like that. Not in person.

Not when you can look at my eyes. Yeah, so this episode is called, who killed the Adonis? Right? Negative. Who murdered the Adonis? Who stubbed the Adonis toe? Yeah, that's it. Right. So this episode was called Who Mores for Adonis? I was close. I had one word.

I had two words. The verb. You were missing the verb. Right. And I think I also spelled the Donis wrong. You did. But I said it. Donis is actually a Donis. Is it a Donis or is it a Donis? Yes. You were close both times, but you were wrong overall. But that's fine. We're not Greek.

We don't have mastery of that tongue. I know you're really into mythology, so I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this But that's fine. We're not Greek. We don't have mastery of that tongue. I know you're really into mythology, so I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this. And also, I'm looking forward to you correcting me. You should never look forward to me correcting you, because I'm going to get up on that high horse, and you're going to need a big stick to knock me down.

Well, I figure I can give you this one because it's never going to happen again. That's fair. Just like that time that Brett edited the episode. Oh, man, he made it sound so bad. What a jerk. Yeah. I didn't say any of those things. Yeah. He wrote our scripts. And he always like, see, just again, really quick before we jump into the episode, Brad would always add these things to the script is like, hey,

Majid, I need you to to act like you don't know what Star Trek is and then ask a question about Star Trek. So the viewers can understand. But, you know, I went with it because it's Brad and I'm scared of him. He does hit us. He does hit us. It's why we wear long sleeves.

But yeah, let's go into the summary, Drew. The Enterprise crew encounters an oversized hand in space which turns out to belong to Apollo, the Greek god. He is lonely, seeking followers, and ready to play Cosmic Puppeteer. The crew, however, is more interested in science and mythology, and Kirk is not the one to be easily impressed. After struggling to break the Enterprise free of Apollo's hands, the crew of the Enterprise

beams down to the planet. Apollo has a godly appearance. He's got charm flowing locks. He's got a toga. It's kind of like he looks like what Majid might look like if you were Greek. Pretty sexy. If I were shredded. If you were shredded. If you focus a little less on the shoulders. But the crew. Yeah. Being from the future is not exactly starry-eyed and Kirk gives the divine being a master class in consent Paulo claims he and the other gods were a gallant band of travelers who visited earth 5,000 years ago GD I'd like to know how you feel about the idea that everything you know about about mythology is a lie.

I listen, I didn't think it was a lie. I was like, ooh twisty. It's a good way to think about it. I mean, I Think even during the episode Kirk was like, you know, it's not God's it's one You know, like he recognizes that there's one God. So when people talk about the Greek gods, yeah, no, it's it's definitely possible. It's like Thor, right? People see Thor as a God, but he's just an alien. Same concept.

Are we talking about like the Norse mythology? Or are we talking about the Marvel comic? We're talking the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the MCU for shorts. What's that? The audience knows. It's it's what I've been modeling my life after for the past 12 years. No, so the Marvel Cinematic Universe, where all my childhood comics come to life, spearheaded by the one and fabulous Robert Dudley Jr. as Iron Man.

Ernie didn't want to do it anymore. That's not what I heard. I talked to him yesterday. We have a text chain going. Oh, nice. The character arched out, so it's fine. Character arched out. Interesting. Did you did you send him any of your fortunes yet, too? This sounds like a scam. Well, he told me that he was stranded in Vegas and he needed a few bucks until he can get to the ATM.

Did he put his friend Captain America on the. Hello, it is Captain America. Right. I mean, here are my friend Tony Stark and we're we're stuck in the desert and we need some money. Did I send you the one of it was Kirk and Spock? It was like that. No, Picard. It was Picard and like data is like, hey, this is your captain, Picard, and I need some money.

I don't remember that now. Oh, I got to find it and send it to you and just post it online. I think it's some of the funniest stuff because I read it in Patrick Stewart's voice. Anything Kirk related, sorry, anything Picard related, I read in Patrick Stewart's voice. How could you not? Right, right. Good point. Good point. All right, anyway, Apollo's divine hospitality takes a turn for the possessive. He demands and expects the crew to worship him.

But more importantly, he's got the hots for Scotty Sweetie. Lieutenant Carolyn Palmas. Palamas? Palmas? Palamas. I think it's Palamas. Palamas. Palamas. Palamas. Lieutenant Carolyn Palamas. Kirk decides it's time for a face-off. The clash of the Titans begins as Kirk challenges Apollo's God complex with words. Meanwhile, Spock, on the Enterprise, is scanning the planet desperately searching for the source of Apollo's power. The crew refuses to play along with Apollo's charades, leading to a standoff with the ancient deity. Palamis starts to give the, it's not you, it's me speech, and Apollo just can't take it. Spock finally locates the source of the power

and fires Phasers onto the planet just in the nick of time, destroying the Greek temple, on which Apollo gets his power from. Apollo has now been rejected by a beautiful mortal woman and has lost of all power. He begs the humans for forgiveness before fading away to join his fellow gods slash aliens. Kirk wonders if all Apollo people gave to Earth, another outcome would have been possible

and wonders if it would have hurt them to have gathered just a few laurel leaves after all. To sum up the episode, the Greek gods have giant green hands. Scotty's never going to get any unless it's from the Warp Corps. And Apollo looks better in a toga than Majid. You haven't seen me in a toga yet. How do you know that? Right. AI has advanced so much.

Yeah, let me ask Mid Journey that question. Show me Majid and Atoga. Make it six fully. I love that you're plugging Mid Journey and we're going to get one red set from them. I don't even know how to use it. Forward slash imagine. Oh, okay. Uh, forward slash imagine. Tell me what you thought of this episode.

I thought it was so. I want to say good, but I also want to say bad. It occupies this space where it's so good, it's or so bad, it's good space, you know? It's so cheesy. I did enjoy Scottie getting knocked around. Like you would think after the first time he would learn his lesson. Yeah. get knocked around. Like you would think after the first time he would learn his lesson. Yeah, no. Meanwhile, Paul's like, how many times

can I teach this lesson, old man? And the green hand, I thought, was a nice touch. It invoked memories of lower decks when ransom had god powers. And then just a floating head in space like ransom. Yeah. It's a good one. Yeah. Did ransom put himself in a toga as well?

You know, I think he may have. I'd have to go back and rewatch. It's I just might because I love that show, too. Man, it's just a good way of explaining everything. I got Melmar Melvar vibes as well. I think you and I talked about this briefly off air. But yeah, no, definitely Melvar vibes, because he was a green cloud, right? He was. Yeah.

It wasn't on a planet that kind of had like, um, you know, mythological or not mythological. Wasn't it on like a planet that had like, um, temples and things like that too? Yeah. Uh, it was. So if you go back and watch the episode of Futurama where, um, I think it's called where no fan has gone before. And, and, uh, Melvar even says he's viewed the tapes numerous times that he loves the ones with the energy beings.

I think I know for sure he names drops or episode drops this number. Like he's he's just named drops his episode. It's been a long time since I've seen that episode, so I would need to go back. Yeah, it's good. I wonder if we can clip it out that may require work and licensing and we may get banned. Elon Musk may come after us. Why would he?

Why would what Elon Musk picks fights with people on Twitter now? I'm not sure if you knew that. Oh, yeah, no, I know about that. But I'm just confused as to how he would, you know, get involved in the podcast. So if I post a clip of Futurama with Melvar, he might get upset and try to ban us. I understand. Then, you know, I would have to challenge him to a duel. us. I understand. Then, you know, I would have to challenge him to a duel.

Right. And I would clearly lose until you step in at the last minute and throw me a chair. I see. So I could hit him with it. And then I understand from the top row, you elbow drop him. That makes sense. Frog splash. I would. I'm I'm I'm a reliable drop guy. Or a light drop. Oh my god, calf drop. You murder him. Almost just like spit tea all over the computer desk here. Totally worth it.

What did you think about the episode? You know, it was it was fun. I I wasn't really too interested in it as for at first kind of struck me as oh boy here we go another God episode. You know, they did this with Trilane they've done it with others. So it's kind of rolling my eyes a little. But I think they kept it unique enough with the romance angle with Apollo. And I think the actor that was portraying Apollo did a pretty good job, too. Plus, he had great abs and, you know, I really couldn't stop staring at those. So that was pretty, pretty good. Yeah. But I enjoyed it.

You know, I it's kind of tough coming off of last week's episode because Amok Time was a really good episode, right? And I don't think that this would live up to it. But I think it was still fun. It was still interesting. And it was a concept that's been done before, but presented in a fairly unique way by actually referring to a mythological God. Yeah. Yeah. So season two is iconic for a few reasons, right? There's classic episodes scattered all throughout.

So of course you're gonna get some, maybe not so stellar episodes in between. This may be one of them, a filler. So just thinking about it, off the top of my head we have what, Mirror Mirror? Yep. And Mud? Yeah, there's iM a I mud is coming up.

The doomsday machine is a pretty important one. Trouble with tribbles. Right, I've heard amazing things about tribbles. Yeah, that's that's a that's a really good episode. There's a few others in here that I'm I'm sure I'm privy to just not quite. Recognizing the titles right now, but. Trouble with Tribbles, didn't you send me a Star Trek short with eight? Yes, John H. Benjamin. OK.

It's John Benjamin. Yeah. Yeah. I never watched it. So that episode is kind of like the creation of the triples, which really have not had much of an impact on Star Trek, aside from this episode. They've they've shown up in random places over the years, but never as a focal point in the same way with with one exception. But it's kind of a cheat.

I wouldn't even count it. So it was it was fun to see, you know, the short track based on that. But we're getting way off topic. We absolutely did because we don't have Brad flipping a whip at us Hmm over the camera What did you think of the special effects of the hand? holding the ship I In the concept of it alone

I think the concept of it was fantastic again, you know, I think ransom in Lower Dex, but When it comes to something like that no matter matter what it is, no matter what medium it is, I always picture how they made it. And I have to imagine that someone is just in like a green suit off screen and only their hand is showing. Painted green, who knows, like an Orion. I do have an idea of how they made the floating head in space. It literally is.

It literally is just the guy wearing a black, maybe star colored what's the word looking for? Star colored like jumpsuit, you know? You can see his shoulders. They're not very big shoulders, but you can see the outline of his shoulders in there. And I said, okay, that's a cool way of,

clever way of doing it. Cause they don't have CGI back then. It's practical effects. Yeah, yeah. A lot of things are achieved with practical effects. People were clever back then. Now the computer is everything for us. I mean, honestly, I prefer the practical effects,

especially when it comes to like the ships. Yeah, you know, there's there's something charming about it. And I don't know, it looks real, like even though it's a model, like it's something physical, right? And you can you can tell. Yeah. It's something physical, right? And you can you can tell. Yeah.

Did you did you think that Apollo was a racist? In what way? That he didn't want the pointy or spock on this planet. Oh, yeah, that was kind of a dick move. Yeah. That caught me off guard. But it worked out against him, you know, like that was his. This is down downfall.

Yeah. This is also the second time that we we got to spend some time with checkoff. Yes. Checkoff was also kind of a dick. Apollo's like, yeah, I'm Apollo. Feast your eyes upon me, gaze upon my Toga wrapped form. And Apollo, the Czechos like, yeah, and I'm a Russian cat that dances or whatever nonsense he spouted.

I thought it was very quirky, very, Very snarky for a check off. Yeah, check off. Checkouts got some quips. You know, he's he's got a lot to say. But I think ultimately it was him that was the one that found or at least kind of led Spock and Kirk in the right direction because he was the one that noticed that Apollo seemed to be kind of weak or just seemed like he was a little drained right before he disappeared.

So you know, I think Chekhov is doing a great job. Yes, he's got the sense of humor and the quips and maybe it's a little over the top, but he's also being a good officer. Yeah. Speaking of good officer, Kirk, when he's like, yeah, here's the plan. We're going to storm him all at once. And the reply is that it's going to get us killed.

Not all of us. Just the ones wearing the red shirts. Like this guy is no stop in this guy. And then they just like started shouting at him. I I thought that was so funny. Just them walking up to. Just walking up to to yell at him like they're an angry mob. Kirk playing chicken with it.

Saying, all right, crush my ship. I dare you. All right, all right, all right, you win. You win. Like, come on, man. There is literally a floating head in space. And you're going to challenge him to a game of chicken. Yeah. What are you doing, buddy?

And the man knows no fear. Man knows no fear. I'm surprised he didn't take a shirt off when he saw Apollo and a toga. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I did. You took your shirt off. Yeah. And I don't play. I was supposed to do. Yeah, I don't blame you. Is that what you're supposed to do? Yeah, I mean.

I was trying to assert dominance. I didn't have one on when I was watching the episode, so it kind of worked out in my favor. There you go. You walked in asserting dominance. Yeah. Yeah. Other things too. When Kirk had to go talk to Paloma and Chuck was like, I'll do it. Oh, really? You know, how old you

24 yeah, stand back junior. I Oh, 24. Yeah. Stand back, Junior. I'll go talk to him. You just hang back. I thought that was funny as well. It's kind of messed up. There's just just Kirk asserting himself as the ladies man. He's the alpha, you know. But you know, Scott, he's got the hots for.

She's too good for him, according to McCoy. Yeah. Yeah. Nope. Poor Scotty. Poor Scotty. He gets a girl to show some interest. Everybody's back talking behind or talking about her behind his back. And then he beams down to the planet with her and he gets into a fight with a God.

Three times. Three times. Gets his ass whooped. How do you not like, you're like, okay, great. This did not work the first time. It's gonna work the second time. He's not gonna see me coming. It did not work the second time. Okay, I going to see me coming. It did not work the second time.

OK, I got to figure it out. It's going to work this time. Yeah. He's like, I can't feel my left arm. I did something wrong. Yeah, you get electrocuted. But you got electrocuted. He he almost died.

Yeah, he almost died. Yeah, literally. It's craziness. But that said, you know, I like to see a little bit of fire. And it's nice to see Scotty showing a little bit of that Scottish fire. You know, we're getting getting a little bit more character development this season overall, I think. You know, we got we got Chekov and Sulu kind of, you know, clipping back and forth with each other. Scottie's getting more than just an eye, eye search, you know, giving her all she's got, sir.

So I'm I'm cool with this, you know. How far did you get when you watch the series originally? Because I kind of thought that you were watching this and then because you're such a good friend, you're going to rewatch it with us. Not this one. Um, so the original series I've never seen all the way through and I never watched it in order. Um, I started, I started years ago and I, I didn't get very far, but growing

up, I've seen a bunch of episodes here and there, just on television, right? So my experiences with the original series are mainly focused around the movies. Those I've seen multiple times. And, you know, that's where I really grew to love this cast. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Because you saw some of the some of the classic ones. Yeah. So like any time like these to show a lot of these episodes on WPI X Channel 11 in New York and they would do marathons like the top 10 best episodes and they would run them in order. And they used to do like fan polls and stuff

and this is before like the internet was even really widespread, you know, so I remember being a kid and and like on a Saturday I'd sit down and watch Star Trek for 10 hours and I'd see the top 10 episodes and a lot of the episodes that, you know, we've already talked about as being the classics. We're the ones on that list, you know, sitting on the edge of forever. Doomsday Machine is was one of them, Mirror Mirror, things like that. This is not one of them. Clearly, clearly.

I don't think you hate it. It doesn't sound like you hated this episode. It doesn't sound like you loved it.. It doesn't sound like you loved it. It's just an episode, you know. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. Like, not everything has to be a blockbuster. You know, we're my wife and I are currently watching for all mankind, which is a

kind of like an alternate timeline show. What would happen if the Soviets won the space race and landed on the moon before America? Okay, it starts it starts in the 60s and then season one is like 60s, 70s and then season two 70s to 80s. We just started season three and now they're in the 90s, right? We're flying through the show. And now they're in the nineties, right? We're flying through the show. And what we've come to find is, you know, every once in a while, an episode will just be good, not great.

Not every episode has to be great though. You know, we talked about it today, like the season opener for season three, we felt was a little on the weak side, But comparatively to the rest of the show, that's an insult, comparing it to maybe a different show that might be a compliment, you know, it might still be better, but so you're going to have, you're going to have episodes that are weaker. That said, I still liked it. Like I think there's, there's redeeming qualities to this episode. I didn't, I didn't want to turn it off. But it might not have been paying attention as much as I should

have been. Um, one thing I loved about our previous conversations in season one was that you would take the time and tell me if this would be an episode of TV that you would have in a background. And you know how you would feel about it, you know, playing in the background, would you stop and watch it? Would it be like background noise? So I do want to get your thoughts on that. I want to start getting you to tell me. Yeah, no, that's great. I forgot about that. Thank you. I would say that this is an episode that I would leave on if I was channel surfing. I don't know that I would tune in explicitly to

watch it, but I wouldn't shut it off. I also probably would be doing other things. What was on? Okay. That's it really is a good gauge. Like there's certain things that there's certain pieces of media you can put on and just have in a background. Did we talk about this the other day where if I'm editing photos, I can't have on like a movie I haven't seen before. Yeah. Yeah. So it'll be the Simpsons.

It'll be Lower Decks. It'll be something that I've I've known to love seen before, and it's just comfort food. So, you know, if if I were to take a page out of you or gauge out of your playbook here, I don't know if this would be something I can have in a background and have it be enjoyable for me. I see. So you would not edit to this episode. I would not edit to this episode. Oh, all right.

So we have we have two barometers now for the quality episode one Would you turn it off? To would Majid edit to it. Yeah, that's a good case. I like that. That's a very solid gauge Anything you hated about the episode or just didn't like overall I mean, I'm not really crazy about the I mean, I'm not really crazy about the overreacting Scotty Horndog-ness like is a girl that like he asked for coffee like on the bridge and now he is like willing to sacrifice his life for her.

I think he went a little like zero to 100 on that, you know. So Scotty knows what he wants. He knows what he wants. And he is, you know, he envisioned the life with this woman. And Kirk Kirk knew McCoy knew that she was too good for him. The way they portray romance on this ship is just I don't know, man. I I do expect her to be like, should I tell him that I've already been with her? Yeah, she's already both.

Every woman is called before. Oh, every woman is called before. Oh, Kirk. Oh, the the Orion Jean pool is forever tainted because of Kirk. That's right. How about you, man? What did you dislike about this episode? I honestly. I just like how little screen time spot got.

That's it. I disliked that this wasn't there's chapel. Because I think I would have cared more if the person being taken by Apollo was Nurse Shappell. You know, because we know Nurse Shappell, we love Nurse Shappell. She's been in so many episodes. She has an arc, she has time and chemistry

and just, she's been on screen. So it's admirable that Kirk wants to fight for a member of his crew. I think for the audience, it makes it better if the person he's fighting for is someone that we have known throughout season one, throughout multiple episodes. I agree. So it's the only thing I would really change.

Again, I'm a sucker for Greek mythology. But speaking of which, isn't Apollo Roman and not Greek? Because he's talking about Hera. And Hera is Zeus's wife. Hermes is on the Greek side. On the Mercury side, the sorry, on the Roman side, Mercury is the equivalent of Hermes. Zeus is the equivalent of Apollo. Aphrodite, he also namedrop Aphrodite, which I think is going to be Venus because it's named after planets. So. Can you fact check me on that real quick?

Allow me to check Wikipedia. Brad, Brad, is that you? No. Oh, you sound like Brad. Dead on Brad impression. Oh, he sound like Brad. That I'm Brad impression. Oh, he's an atheist. According to Wikipedia.org, Apollo is one of the Olympian diaries in classical Greek and Roman religion. All right. So everything you said is probably correct.

But it's entirely possible that the writers just mixed up their mythology and just wrote names because they sounded good. Well, they they really wouldn't they lean left on the Greek side of things, right? Because, you know, Aphrodite, Hera, Pan, Pan also is on the Greek side of things pan in his little flute. I think pan was what a pixie an elf. A Seder maybe. Don't know.

This is why you need me in trivia because of random nonsense like this. You would be useful for like one question out of the 10. Yeah. If they need to know who this actor was from Transformers and and angry management's. Oh, John Saturo hands down, which by the way Apollo Oh, John Saturo. Hands down. Which, by the way, Apollo looked like John Saturo. Yeah. So you mentioned that to me offline. And I was like, who's John Saturo?

And then you blew my mind open because apparently he's like in a bunch of movies that I've seen. Yeah. And some of which are my favorites. Yeah. He's he's he's a really good character actor. I had no idea he was in Big Lebowski. I had no idea he was in Severance.

Those are two of my favorite pieces of media. Yeah. Who else? Who knows what else? Anger management with Adam Sandler. Mr. Deeds. I don't like Adam Sandler. Oh, buddy. Really? Yeah. Did you see Uncut Gems?

No. Oh, if so. No. A24. You feel the move or A24 films? That production company. I've been seeing that title around an awful lot lately, but I don't really know like what they're famous for. They're famous for a lot. They're up and coming in terms of like just quality, dramatic films. The Safdie Brothers, in particular, did on cut gems.

The Safdie Brothers also did a good time with Robert Pattinson. So they work with quality, dramatic actors. And sometimes maybe not even quality dramatic actors. For some reason, The Rock is going to be in a Safdie Brothers movie or just one of the Safdie Brothers. So I'm interested to see how that one turns out. I'll be there day one clearly, but that's besides the point. It's the rock. But again, I digress. Apollo looks like John Tartaro, and I stand by that and I'll fight anyone, almost anyone that tells me otherwise.

I'm going through a list of their movies right now, and it is a sad number of films that I have actually seen out of these. It's depressingly sad. I've seen one so far. Yep, this is why you need me during trivia night. Guys, listeners, viewers, I need you to know that I am fantastic at trivia. I just don't have a trivia team.

I'm open to suggestions. If anyone wanted to come up with names, please drop them in somewhere on our Twitter page. If please drop it in Drew's text message box. Just give me some suggestions of a good trivia team name. I'm not that clever. Yeah, neither am I. Could we do the Vulcan High trivia? Something? Vulcan High? What? Well, this is, what, Vulcan High command, right?

Yeah. We could do Vulcan High trivia? I'm not good at this. Yeah, I know. You want to move on to Radix? Yeah, let's give this puppy a score. Oh, puppy. I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I did either.

Oh, man. All right. So you, you please first. All right. So, you know, I think the most important barometer is the Wood Drew Watch It Again one that you've you reminded me of. Thank you for doing that. I love it. Back up. You know, I think I think that's a perfect example of why that scale exists in the first place, right? Because we have a movie that, you know, it's not bad movie, excuse me, an episode.

This episode was was not bad. It wasn't really anything about it that I disliked, but there wasn't a lot there to like keep my attention either to like I did find myself kind of wavering focus quite a bit here and there. But that said, like I think it was enjoyable. Like I'm glad I saw it. I would not turn it off if it were on, but I probably wouldn't go on and grab the the Blu-ray or fire it up on Netflix or whatever and and watch that specific episode intentionally. So I feel like that puts this firmly in the category of like a six.

All right. I love it. Yeah, no, I that I think you and I are going to be almost on the same page. So the newly founded Woodmajid edit photos to it. to it. Thank you for helping me found that by the way. I wouldn't. So there has to be something about the pace of a show. Just the familiarity, the rewatch ability is a big factor, right? Is it quotable? Things like that, all that comes into play, which is why something like lower decks or the Simpsons is a good gauge when it comes to whether or not I would watch something

while editing. There's really none of that for me, but I am a sucker for all things Greek mythology. So just that alone, I think kept my interest in watching this episode. Kirk thinking he had the balls to stand up to a being of immense power. Scotty, thinking he had the balls to stand up to a being of immense power. These things were enjoyable to me. But again, the episode wasn't perfect.

And out of that, I would also give it a six. It was enjoyable, it wasn't perfect, it had its flaws. We talked about how I wish it was someone else and not Paloma. You know, someone else will be actually cared about in the crew. Yeah. So, you know, all that added up comes out to be a six. You know, they have a tendency to go for the pretty lady of the week. And unfortunately, it has to mission returns. Yeah. I'm going to regret this. But, uh, Brad thoughts.

Brad. Hey guys, it's Brad. Can you hear me? I'm really not sure where I'm at. It kind of looks like some sort of ancient Greek city. Welcome to Olympus. Hold on. There's some guy wearing a toga shouting at me. Sir, excuse me. Who are you exactly? I am Apollo. And why are you half-daked? I am Apollo. You will worship me.

Right. Guys, I'm not really liking this episode anymore. I think I'm going to leave. You will not leave this place. Transportation device no longer functions. Uh, that's not good. Approach me. I offer you eternal rest and happiness according to the ancient ways.

I ask little in return. But what I ask for, I insist upon. You will gather lore leaves, fight the ancient fires, kill a deer, make your sacrifices to me." God damn it. Filler side quests? Fine. This episode is totally getting a five for me. Hmm. Uh huh. That was useless. That was a. Oh, man. I need subtitles. Thanks, Brad. Thanks for nothing.

Oh, man. What do we got next week? Well, next week, we have an episode called The Changeling. The enterprise finds an ancient interstellar probe from Earth missing for 265 years, which is somehow mutated into a powerful and intelligent machine, serializing entire populations that do not meet its standards of perfection. That sounds sounds like it could be good. Yeah, sounds like it could be good.

And then it's probably going to be a stinker. I've never heard this episode before. Yeah, at least it doesn't have a bad title like what a little girl is made of. Yeah, but the thing is, is like the changeling, like maybe at the time it made sense, but in Star Trek lore now, you know, so many years later like changelings are a species. Oh Really? Yeah, it's a deep space nine thing The only thing I know of deep space nine is everything I saw from Lower Decks

Well deep space nine actually did an episode where they went back in time to the Trouble with Tribbles. Really? And they digitally inserted like the DS9 crew in that episode. It was a lot of fun. That sounds expensive. It was and for the time it was really well done. If I watch that episode on its own, well, it makes sense to me. After you watch Trouble with Tribbles, but yeah, I think you can get away with it. All right. Well, it's maybe something we can try.

Maybe after that episode and see. After the changeling, we have Mirror, Mirror, which I'm looking forward to. Oh, mm hmm. That's exciting. Fun fact, everything I know about Star Trek comes from. Well, originally it came from Merrimer. I knew that I always knew subconsciously that if you have a goatee. You're evil.

Like I knew that because of Star Trek. Like if you have a beard or you have a goatee, you are immediately the evil one. Nice. As I grew up, I realized that it's not the ones with the beard that are evil because Drew has a beard and he's not. As he strokes his beard on a camera, I wish you guys could see this. But I'm very evil like once we get the only fan set up for our podcast, you'll be able to see it.

Very nice, very evil. Anything that else you want to cover, buddy? No, I think I'm upset at all. Oh, well, until next time then. Thanks, Brett. All right. Well, until next time, we'll see you guys later. Love you, Drew. Love you, Mujid. All episode of yet another Star Trek podcast. We are a part of the Retro Sessions Network. This episode was recorded on January 10th, 2024.

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