Yet Another Star Trek Podcast - Ep 056 (TOS S02E03) The Changeling

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

What if a Cosmic Roomba decided to eradicate all life? What if it was just a misunderstanding? The Changeling puts the crew of The Enterprise in front of a robot that just wants to murder. But is this episode worth the watch? Tune in to find out! Be sure to check out our website, social media, and join our Discord! Links for all are listed below: Website | Discord | BlueSky | Facebook | Instagram | Threads | Twitter | TikTok | YouTube Drop us an email at [e-mail]! “Warp Speed” and "To the Stars" was written and performed by William Grobbelaar Music: https://soundcloud.com/williamgrobbelaarmusic Additional artwork by George Rateau: https://www.fiverr.com/georgerateau

And welcome back. No, not welcome back. Hi. This is yet another Star Trek podcast. This is the bumpiest opening I've done since we started recording and we've been back in my groove. Hello. Hello. No. How are you, one? Welcome back to your star chat podcast. This is machine and I'm joined by my lovely cohost who is true for the evening. True.

I was going to let you just kind of keep digging yourself a hole on that intro. I wasn't going to. Was it? You let me drown. I was. I was. It was really nice, though. It was nice to just kind of sit back and hear your voice.

It was nice to sit back and watch you drown. You deserve it. You deserve every moment of that. And now it lives forever because it's on the Internet's. I'll fix it in post. You know, I hate that term now. I gave you such a hard time for it. And my wife used it on me.

I took some pictures and it was too dark and And I said, I want to use the flash. I got to try it again. And her reaction was fix it in post. And I. I think I felt that existential crisis that you feel every time I say it. And it wasn't fun. Yeah, the thing about that phrase that people that say that phrase don't understand is that fixing something in post really kind of isn't a thing.

That doesn't exist. Because if it's wrong the first time, it's wrong forever and you can make it less wrong, but you can never truly fix it. Yeah. It's it's like when a movie shoots only on green screen. And then they go into post-production and all they do is just add in the backgrounds and the CGI elements. Not a fan of that.

But I mean, even some movies are made better in post. Some pictures in my guess in my example are made better in post. I'm not sure about your Instagram history, buddy, but my Instagram history or my Instagram algorithm, I should say, is filled with people doing amazing things in Lightroom and Photoshop with editing. Hmm. That's, that's, uh, I would say probably far superior to my algorithm. My algorithm is kettlebells, cats, hiking.

Okay. All right. And restaurants in Connecticut. All right. Hiking. Okay. All right. And restaurants in Connecticut. All right. Well, that's so. And I've started adding breweries to the mix lately for some reason. Because you want to start your own brewery? I've always wanted to start my own brewery. I think that you should. I think you should have your micro brew.

I think it should be a retro sessions production. And it should be themed around a All of the podcasts that you've produced on started worked on and be Just things in your life Like imagine a metro brand or metro brew. I don't know what it's called. What would a Would my micro brew be called micro drew? Oh my God, why?

Okay. Listen, by the time that this episode comes out, we would already need to reach out to our lawyer friend to start a copyright and to get this off the ground because we're going to basically waste in our time. If we don't copyright the term micro drew. Although micro drew can just sound like a mini version of you or a ill timed insult. Oh man I missed you. It's been a week. We recorded last week and I miss you.

But we talk every single day. How you been? You know man, it's been a weird week. I got a text message from my wife on Saturday morning while I was at work that she had tested positive for COVID. And I've been dodging that bullet somehow for the past five days, slept on the sofa. See, here's the thing, right? My job, there's usually only one supervisor on at a time. And we have like, we have two morning supervisors. I'm one of them.

There's, and then my colleague is the other one. So we're very spread thin. Like if somebody calls out, then like they have to like rearrange shifts and everything. So in previous jobs, I think I would have just like gone into like right up into her face and just breathed in every ounce of air that she had so that I would have an excuse to call out. But I actually kind of like this job. And I didn't want to

do that. So I slept on a very uncomfortable sofa for a couple of nights. And yeah, and somehow I still don't think I've caught it, although today did feel a little kind of blah. But you know, I forgot how itchy masks are when you have a beard of this length. Your beard is magnificent and I can't stop staring at it. It's getting long, man. I got to trim it though, like it's starting to get a little unruly. Every few months or so, I'll go to the barber, get the, you know, they'll do the whole thing,

clean it up. But I want to get the barber to like kind of like trim up the sides a little shorter, but keep the length and he keeps butchering the length on it every time I go. So they give you the hot towel treatment. They do. Oh, my God. And they get the straight razor on the head, you know, because I'm bald, right? So I usually just shave that to the skin. Well, if our listeners didn't know that you were bald before they do now. Surprise.

I started losing my hair when I was in my 20s. Just like Patrick Stewart, according to his book. Great book, by the way. Yeah, I'm already on chapter eight because I listen to the book at one point five playbacks. Yeah, can we talk about that for a second? Why would you? Why would you ruin the sanctity of classically trained Shakespearean actor Patrick Stewart's cadence and rhythm in his audio book reading? You listen, listen, I don't care if you listen to podcasts, I don't care if you listen to us on 1.5 speed. I have a problem with 1.5

speed in general, but if you got to do what you got to do, but to defile Patrick Stewart of all people, I am so disappointed in you. Do you hear that? Look at me. Look at me. I am disappointed in you. What I will say is that even though I said 1.5 playback speed, his voice is still as majestic. His accent is still just as glorious.

He sings in this book like he has some parts where he sings and it's you don't lose it. In my opinion, you're not losing it, but. But why would you want to rush your experience with Patrick Stewart? Don't you want to savor that and make it last as long as possible? So I guess that's a good segue into kind of my next point is it doesn't really matter in the end because one, I'm probably just I'm looking for I'm looking for the ability to finish as many books in a year as possible

The very first time I try doing this in 2020 I finished Maybe six or seven books The year afterwards was 12. I think last year I just finished 20 books. So I'm I'm trying to Get through these books and I I love it and I savor every single moment. But just because it's Patrick Stewart doesn't mean I'm going to slow it down. I listened to Tom Segura's book at 1.5 X and again, nothing lost. Nothing. Tom Segura cannot be compared to Sir Patrick Stewart.

All right. Fine. Trevor Noah. Is he a knight? No, there's no sir in front of his name. I could put a sir. I can call him sir. Doesn't work the same. Oh, my God. Imagine if the rock was a knight, sir, the rock.

How does that work? I think it works just like that. Sir, rock sir. Rock. Oh, man. How are you? I'm I'm OK. I am. I I I started doing intermittent fasting again because I want to trim down a little bit.

Oh, which window? My window. It's 16.8. Okay. But so far I've been doing like 17.7 or whatever. However the math works out. I'm not good with numbers. Yeah, that tracks. Yeah. They did the math.

Yeah, I want to be able. I'm doing it smarter this time, staying within the window, tracking the calories and making sure I'm consuming enough protein to make sure that I don't lose the strength. Listen, if I get to a point where I can't bench T25 or, you know, do light press or squats for a certain weight. I'm going to be upset and I'm going to take it out on somebody in a parking lot. You know, there's this stupid trade off. And I hate it. Last time I wanted to Keto for the very first time, buddy.

I could barely even bench 135 afterwards. So. Well, I mean, your body needs fuel. Yeah. And those types of diets and things are sort of the antithesis of fueling your body. Yeah, but if this ruins me though, I'm gonna cleanse the earth.

Well, that's a a Deep Space Nine episode, but an episode about a robot that wants to cleanse the earth, just like bread. The Enterprise receives a distress signal from the Malurian system, only to discover out of 4 billion life forms, there's zero sign of life. The Enterprise gets rocked by massive bursts of energy from a mysterious space probe named Nomad. It's not your average probe, this thing is more like a cosmic Roomba on steroids armed with destruction capabilities. Scotty's engineering team is puzzled and Spock is already raising an eyebrow at this overachieving vacuum. So Kirk and crew invite Nomad on board for a chat, but it's clear that this space probe has some serious identity issues.

Nomad believes that Kirk is its creator. Jackson Roy Kirk. But there's a slight problem. Roy Kirk died years ago. It's like having a conversation with your room but convinced it's your long lost cousin. Kind of an interesting intro to the episode, right? A little bit of drama getting hit by these mysterious You know energy burst ship is flying all over the place looks like they're gonna be destroyed soon by this unknown origin They toss a couple of photon torpedoes out in the middle of space and all of a sudden this thing starts answering their hails It just beams aboard the ship. What did you think about your first look of?

nomad It just beams aboard the ship. What did you think about your first look of Nomad? Uh, did you ever watch the Mandalorian? Um, yes, but I never finished it. Okay, well, you got to the first episode, the first season, right? I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a character called IG-11. It's voiced by the one and only Taika Waititi. And when I saw Nomad, I was like, oh my god, he could be IG11's cousin.

They look so identical to me. And I'm like, oh, that's unimposing. It has lights on it, too. That's nice. My Google does imposing. It has lights on it too. That's nice. My Google does that. It has lights. Well, I think Nomad took the lights off of Darth Vader. Oh my god.

If you would have said Darth Helmut, I would have been okay with that too. I mean, I've never seen both of them in the same place at the same time. Fair. It is dark helmet, by the way. What did I say? Darth. You sure? No.

All right, then. Nomad hears you her singing over the intercom and rushes to the bridge to make sense of it. When it puts her in a trance, Scot leaps at no mad to stop it no mad immediately zaps Scottie Giving McCoy a chance to say her favorite line. He's dead Jim Later nomad volunteers to repair quote quote Kirk's chief engineer and does so but isn't capable of repairing her I guess nomad is sexist or racist or something. I'm not sure.

It could be both. It could be both things. It could be both things. I mean, this is a robot from the 2000s. And we're still figuring stuff out here in 2024. So, you know, Ooh, two things can be true. I did almost say 2023. You are absolutely right. I even looked at the clock in the corner of my screen. 17 days into the month into the year. Shut your mouth. Don't give me no back talk. He's going to fix me in post. Oh no. Spock attempts a Vulcan mind meld with Nomad leading to a mind bending duel of logic versus Nomad's mission to sterilize

imperfections. Spoiler alert. Vulcan nerve pinch apparently doesn't work on a space probe. Meanwhile, McCoy's medical expertise is about as useful as a screen door and a spaceship. Nice. Discovery's Nomad stumbled into a meteor then found a probe called Tanru whose mission was to collect and sterilize soil samples. Now Nomad wants to sterilize in perfect life forms. Are we sure Nomad isn't a Dalek? Oh, you didn't get that reference. I'm so mad at you. What's a Dalek. How you didn't get that reference. I'm so mad at you. What's a Dalek?

Doctor Who. Oh, exterminate exterminate. Anyway, no mad on a quest to cleanse the universe decides humans are error riddenidden and needs some deep cleaning. Start zapping crew members, leaving Kirk to negotiate with this rogue space Roomba. With Kirk using his charm and logic, he convinces Nomad of his programming errors, effectively hitting the reset button. Nomad forgets his destructive mission and the crew is left to ponder. The cosmic oddity briefly invaded their lives.

Some of the episodes don't have a similar name to anyone in history ever. Don't sing on the bridge and don't forget to clean up your vacuum unless you want it to eradicate civilization. This is why we're nice to our vacuums. This is why I don't have a voice activated one, although I really do want one. I have one and it's great. I call him Tony shark. Tony shark. Yeah.

Why do you call him Tony shark? Because he is a shark robot, like, you know, the brand shark. And it has AI in it. So, you know, Tony shark. Oh, like Tony Stark, Tony shark. I took a moment. Yeah. But it's all right. You've been. Yeah, you've been on the couch. I get it. Yeah. You should get a couple more comfortable couch. She wanted this one. Yeah. I

um, listen, I made sure that when we got this couch, it was comfortable enough to sleep on. So whenever I'm in the doghouse, yeah, she's like, Hey, go sleep on the couch. I'm like, No, but I love it. It's me, the dog, the cat, we're just all on a couch. You have that chase lounge part two, don't you? Yeah. Well, that's the dog's section. Like I put a little blanket there on a couch on the chase and he sits there Stella will sleep on me Which by the way, the Stella has gotten affectionate

Like she jumps on my lap more. She just wants to be around us more. I think she's at that age where she wants to be a bro cat Love it. What's the female cat equivalent of bro cat? Cis cat? No, that sounds wrong. I'm gonna let you drown on this one again. Thanks a lot. Anyway, um... Getting back to the episode. Man, this was a different speed of episode for me.

They did a lot to fill a 50-minute episode. Yeah. This kind of kind of reminded me of the cadence of the season one episodes. Yeah, I wonder if this was left over from season one, because, you know, they just the right stuff, they'll have stuff on a white board. And well, I guess chalkboard back then. Sure. Yeah. This could have been left over. So we've had.

High level entities on Star Trek, a lot of them. And now is this our first AI? I believe it is. I think it's the first one that we've encountered in Star Trek. Yeah. Yeah. Way back when Star Trek is warning us about the dangers of AI. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Damn it, Bill Gates. What? Yeah, Bill Gates, he's actually an AI from the future, came back in time to build Windows. Are you confusing him with Brad? Brad and Bill Gates may be the same person. We've never seen them in the same place together either. This is true. Yeah, it's true.

Love you, Brad. Listen, Scotty getting shot. And him going over the railing. It it got me up for my phone. I was like, oh, he right. Like really, just really ragged all this is this is what I do in video games. This is this is the effect I look for. Excellent stunt work. Excellent stunt work.

Yeah, it looked like he actually died. Yeah. Yeah. And this is like the second episode in a row where he's gotten like kicked out of him. Oh, I can't say that either. Can I? Um, well, I mean, you know, you can bleep it. I'll allow it. Um, I think I get back in the recording mindset. Well, I like, you know, the idea of 2024 just kind of letting Drew be drew. So if my drew wants to curse just a little bit, yeah, sure, that's fine. You know, he just bleep it.

I curse a lot. I mean, not like a sailor, though. I think if it was you and a sailor in a competition about who can curse more, you'd lose. Yeah, but it'd be a hell of a fight. No, I don't think so. I'd go down swinging with words. Yeah. And calves. I wonder if wait, do sailors have big calves? I don't know. I'm not gonna Google that.

I'm gonna mess up my algorithm. This is also our first hint that's you her speaks a different language. So I think it had been established by that point that she was Swahili. So I think this is the first time that we've actually seen her speak it. What about her being good at math? That's a whole new thing. I was very uncomfortable with that entire thing because basically this robot made her stupid and then refused to fix her. And then they went through this whole thing where nurse chapels like dog D.

Oh, gee. And it was like door of the explorer. Yeah, yeah, it was rough. It was a rough scene. Um, just just. door of the Explorer. Yeah, yeah, it was rough. It was a rough scene. Just just really difficult to get through those scenes. So we had the A plot of this destructive robot and the B plot of the reeducation of Missy Hurrah.

Well, the B plot lasted all of about two scenes. So I wouldn't even call it a B plot. It was like a forgotten plot. We also had the rebooting of Scotty, which I have to imagine is just like in Windows when you do a restore a point. Control of delete Scotty. Does he operate from the bridge all the time? I mean, or I thought he just kind of worked on an engineering.

Well, so the engineers have always had a station on the bridge that they can work from. So it's really about whatever is convenient for the plot. But we sure have seen him in the on the bridge more often than we see him in engineering, haven't we? Yeah, I've also also. I know I tripped. I tripped. It's fine. We'll just act like it never happened. Um, the.

He also works out in in in what is it called the transport of room to. Yes. So is are they short on labor or something or? I mean, you've seen some of the other crew members would you want them to beam you up and down? Would you want them to beam you up and down? I'm thinking. I know that Chekhov can do it, but I also kind of want him flying the ship. Was Chekhov wasn't even in this episode, was he?

No, he wasn't. There was another guy there. I think Chekhov was on, he was on leave He was on leave on Shirley because. He talked back to a Roman God. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fair. That's my head, Cannon. That's why I like to look at things.

What did you think of the Roy Kirk? Think Jackson Roy Kirk? You know, the the case of mistaken identity is such an overused but beloved trope for me. Think about some of the great movies that have been made because of the forgotten or the mistaken identity. Oh, this is a classic one. Bill Murray in The Man Who Knew Too Little was a movie about mistaken identity. I haven't seen it.

Really? That was one of my favorite Bill Murray movies. I think it came out in the 90s. It was another one. I forgot who I think it was. Richard Grieco, where he played a high school student. And when he went to the airport for a field trip, he got mistaken for like a spy. And he was a spy overseas as a high school student.

It's such a stupidly great movie. Anyway, just this one though, it seemed like, like once you know that the robot messed up, you know, that's your in, you know, you should have just, it's so stupid. They could have solved that problem in 20 minutes. Yeah, they could have solved it in 20 minutes. Kirk had to watch people get killed

and hurt across his ship for he's like, yeah, I'm gonna do something now. So, yep, I'm ready to do something now. So, yeah, I'm ready to do something. Yeah, right. But, you know, I guess he loved his son, as he says at the very end, his son was a doctor. Oh, God, the whole joke. That is way too cute for its own good. It was way too stupid.

The cute. Yes. And the music playing in the background of it, the way he was sitting on the chair all scoots across to the cute. Yes. And the music playing in the background of it, the way he was sitting on the chair all scoots across to the left. Like, oh, God, I just want the punchman head. Yeah, I wasn't really thrilled with with that one either. But I mean, they've done they've had worse jokes, I guess. They had worse jokes. I guess. They had worse jokes. I think they had more worse jokes than they have better jokes,

which is fine. You know, it's the 60s. It probably flew better back then and it wasn't overused back then as it is now. But I think I have more. Complaints about this episode than I do. Like compliments, you know, or another complaints you have. The anti gravity things that they they put out to the robot. What was that for exactly?

Um, I don't remember. Yeah, it's you see that that's how. Like memorable this whole thing was. Yeah, it wasn't solving a problem unless they just wanted the robot to not fly in space. But they were setting it to self destruct anyway. So it's even the point. So I think the whole anti gravity thing was just so that they could actually maneuver the robot while it was in this like logic loop that was stuck in. So they could just basically like instead of trying to carry it because it weighs like a billion tons,

they could just kind of just glide it across the room. Does it weigh a billion tons though, I don't know They said it weighed like a lot And they had it on the ship Yeah The science ain't not everywhere. Yeah, it was floating all over the place Yes, the science isn't there. It's to mess up all the carpet in the enterprise. Right.

Right. There's carpet in the enterprise, by the way. I've done my research. Yes. Yes, there is. Yeah. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan.

Oh, it's great. I'm upset that when Kirk took over from Pike, he added carpet into the enterprise. I like it. You have wood floors in your house. I like the wood floors in my house, but I like to carpet on the starship. Carpet in the starship is the worst that you can have, man. Think about the static shock from like rubbing your feet in the carpet and then touching a console.

Hmm. In the future, they've eliminated static electricity. You you you you you go with that. Yeah. Prove me wrong. I can't. That's the problem. And you know I can't. I've told you a lot about what I love and hate about this episode, but what do you love and hate about the episode? I mean, you know, we've seen this logical kind of thing again and again throughout the years of Star Trek. So, you know, this wasn't exactly a surprise to me. This may have been the first time they've used it, but, you know, I've seen it in, I think, every Trek series over the years. So, you know, getting it to freak out before me being it out into space and letting it blow up.

You know, it was kind of an expected outcome. I like the special effects on the robot. I was trying to look for the strings the entire time I was watching. Me too. See how it was. What's that? Me too. I was doing the same thing. Were you? Yeah. Yeah. I had fun with that. So, you know, I thought the prop was pretty cool.

But like, yeah, there was just some stuff here that just didn't quite sit too well with me like the stuff with Uhera I thought was a little weird, you know, it would beam on, rush to the bridge because it heard her singing and then it's like, oh, I'm going to put a spell on her and make her dumb and then refuse to help her get out of it. Right. Like, I just thought that was a little, little weird. But I think my biggest problem with the episode was kind of, you know, you nailed nailed it, man. This just went on for too long and it could have been resolved in 20 minutes. Yeah. And Mewan Nomad's like, yeah. And as for your hero, she should have missing on a bridge like that.

Yeah. That was my Simpsons reference. I missed it. Yeah, he totally did. And for the listener who also missed it, there was a part of the Simpsons where Homer just saw herself as seen by saying Yeah, and as for your grandma, she should have been mousin off like that And that was my version of it and

Again, this is out there in the internet, so it's fine. That's fine. Can't win them all Well right now I'd like to play our favorite segment of the show. Where's Brad? Where is that guy? I don't know. Brad, do you have anything for us? Where in the world is Brad? Hey guys, I've somehow managed to take a trip on the Enterprise.

And there's a machine killing everybody so that's not really a good thing. I don't really know what to do other than to take off this red shirt and try to pull on a yellow one. I think this episode's not really doing so good for me. It's kind of killing me. And, uh, since here, uh, I'm going to go with a solid six. Yeah.

Solid six. I don't like the killer robot and I think it doesn't like me either. Well, thanks buddy. We, uh, I can't lie to you, buddy. Just just do better. Bye, Brad. I'm starting to figure what Brad looks like. If we're being completely honest.

But it's his fault, right? He moved to Hot Lanna, whoever he went. Yeah. Yeah, it is his fault. And, you know, he doesn't, he's not on the selfie text chain. You know Yeah, this is fault. And you know, he doesn't he's not on the selfie text chain. You know that you and I have. But the one that the one that you're on the one that you and I have. Did you want to subscribe? Yeah. That's not nice. I'm sorry. I said no, I sent selfies to you. I sent him to my cousin

Carlos and I sent it to my buddy Lou. Hmm. They're mostly gym selfies because, you know, that's when I have the most time between sets or maybe in the car after the gym while I'm waiting for the car to warm up. Okay. Mm hmm. But, you know, they're mostly just be sweaty. So, uh, I'll, I'll, I'll send you. It's more, I'll send you one tomorrow.

Please. Okay. That's fine. Anything else you want to talk about with the episode or you want to? Great. I really don't have a lot to say about this one, man. You know, again, to go back to the scale, I would leave it on. I wouldn't turn it off, but I certainly wouldn't put it on. You know, I guess if you're watching this in the 60s, this is very clever of Kirk to outsmart this robot by using logic against it. But in 2024, when I've seen that story dozens of times

throughout multiple shows, including Star Trek, it just kind of falls flat again. So I'm going to give this a five. Oh, wow. OK. That's what I thought you were going to give it. And that's interesting. I feel the exact same way you do that this is an overused trope. And it doesn't really hold up anymore in my mind.

You know, this the whole clever way of of Kirk outsmartens something he could do with his shirt on or with his shirt off, which great. Yeah. You're her by the way, they took her out of her uniform and they put her into. Robes to to learn stuff. Like she couldn't keep her uniform on because she's an embarrassment to you guys. Come on, man. I think she was in a like, you know,

because you're still in sick bay. So it was like, you know, usually wear their own clothes in sick bay. Medical smocks or something. The only person that doesn't wear medical clothes in sick bay is Kirk because his shirt's off. OK. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, honestly, man, I wouldn't want to have this episode on in a background.

I I wouldn't even glance at it if it was playing. I definitely wouldn't want to edit it. I wouldn't want to edit photos while it's on the other screen. I'm glancing over. The further we get away from this episode, the better in my mind. Was it good? No. Was it bad? No. It wasn't terrible.

It was just an episode. And it's an episode that is filler before we get to mirror mirror, which by the way, super excited. But I would also give this episode a five. It's just an episode. It is met. It is a way too long. Well, just like my solution.

It's, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's it's it's less than fine, but it's bad. It's bad. Right. It's bad. Right. I would like to, you know, next time we do this, I would like to have an opportunity for us to guess each other's score without without it impacting your or my score. So maybe I write it down beforehand and I'll say, okay, what's your score? Hey, what's your score? We lift up like whiteboards. And if we're right, we get like a cookie or something.

I don't know. We'll work out the prices afterwards. But I think that's a good idea. Yeah, cause in my mind I'm like, oh, Drew's give this thing a five just kind of based on the way he's talking about it. Yeah, I mean, you know, you were if that's what you're thinking was and you were pretty pretty damn spot on man. Yeah, what do you think I was gonna give it? I hadn't really thought about it. Honestly. I think about you all the time. I think I think I would have guessed lower than a five. But OK, all right, I'm not sure. I'm not sure

what like I didn't really pin it, you know. Yeah. And if I had to guess, if I had to guess what Brad would give it, I would guess that he would give it nothing because he's not here. Sorry. That was on call for. I'm sorry, Brad. But, you know, fix your phone. So your messages come through. Yeah. And we don't have to wonder where in the world is. Right. Anywho. I'm looking forward to mirror mirror.

What are you going to give mirror mirror for a score? we Mirror mirror is a classic right? So allegedly I'm I'm hoping that it's in like the upper seven eight and nines territory I Hope it's I don't want to give it a score prematurely because it's gonna Kind of effect. I think it's going to affect my mindset expecting something that I don't get. I don't want to go in there expecting some masterful piece of work that has lived in like the zeitgeist of, Yeah. Of, of, of lore or whatever the words are.

But whenever I, I tell you this, whenever I think of someone with a goatee, I think, oh, that's the evil version of them. So that's just, that's the way I think about it. But what do you think about how it's going to be? I mean, I'm looking forward to it, but I'm afraid that it's not going to live up to the hype, too. You know? Like, I just I'm worried that the expectations have been set

so high that it's not going to live up to it. But I'm looking forward to seeing these characters as evil versions of themselves. I'm looking forward to the actors having some fun with that. So I'm going to be conservative and give it like a seven. OK. Ahead of time. Remember when we remember when we talked about Space Seed, like we were going to watch Space Seed.

We were all so excited for Space Seed back when Brad was with us every single week. The reason why that episode held up so well is because of the performance by Ricardo Malta Bonn. Right. And it just, he brought a different flavor. He brought a different energy and his performance was just, it's something that I still haven't seen duplicated in any of the episodes that we've watched. Right.

It's good. I don't like anything. Yeah, it's all like anything Benedict Cumberbatch Listen, here's the thing that epistet performance by Ricardo Malta bond was so good Not even Benedict Cumberbatch wants to touch it Yeah It's that's how iconic it is. So, yeah. It's it's in my mind as why it stood up to the test of time. And it's probably the best episode of Star Trek I've watched

doing this entire run. So, yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to seeing that movie, but we're almost there. Yeah, we're almost at the halfway point of the entire series, right? Because there is what, 60 episodes in the entire run? 67. Yeah. All right. Well, math is math. But there's three seasons. And I think there's also 24 episodes in season 79.

I'm sorry. 79 episodes. So we're not anywhere close to the halfway point. We're not even close at a halfway point of season two, we're not even to the quarter mark of season two, but no, I'm looking forward to getting past the series so we can get into the movies. I'm going to. Quell my curiosity. I'm not going to skip ahead.

I'm not going to watch the movies without finishing the series first with you. And it's gonna be so good. I think it's really so epic. And just just how we do things. It's gonna be worth the wait, except for the part where, you know, you watch the first film. What are you doing? What do you mean? What do you mean? Star Trek one? Uh huh. Yeah. Uh huh. Not that do you mean? Star Trek 1? Uh-huh.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Not that great. What? Star Trek 2. Great. Uh-huh. Star Trek 1.

Not that great. What? What? Why would you do that to me? I'm just trying to prepare you. Oh man, come on. Now I've got to fix that in post. In my mind.

That's not how post works. That's not how post works. That's not how post works. That's fine. I'm going to forget about this conversation. I know you will. I'm going to forget about it. I know. But speaking of, uh, forgetting, um, so next week we have

Mayor Mayor again, looking forward to it. Do you have a synopsis for me, buddy? I sure do, buddy. A transporter malfunction sends Kirk, McCoy, Scotty and Uhura into a parallel universe where the Federation is replaced by an evil empire. Kirk is a despot. And Spock is a cunning henchman. Sounds great. I think Lenny Moyer is going to choose scenery. I think he's just going to eat up that role.

Oh, yeah. I 100% agree with that. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I wonder if we'll get through the movies before a proper Star Trek 4 comes out. I don't think a you're talking about the the reboot reboot. Right. Yeah, Calvin. We're not getting a Star Trek 4. yeah, I really don't think so And I think it's really it's really sad that they keep teasing us like this They brought on so many writers so many directors and nothing's come to fruition. Yeah But hey, what are you gonna do right? Now if I were a director, I probably wouldn't touch you either

It's so divisive, but that's fine. It's fine. Hey, I love you and I can't wait to do this with you again next week. Sounds like a plan, my man. Let's do it next week. Talk about mirror, mirror. Yeah. All right. I'll see you then.

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