Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - Sean Cannell: Start a Profitable YouTube Channel in 2024 | Part 2 | E279
Episode Date: March 22, 2024A true YouTube pioneer, Sean Cannell joined the platform only two years after its launch. Having built a YouTube empire worth $10 million, he helps entrepreneurs grow their influence and pursue their ...passion full-time through the power of online video. In today’s episode, Sean offers invaluable insights on YouTube monetization and leveraging the platform for business. Sean Cannell is a business coach, international speaker, and YouTuber who has over 3 million subscribers across his channels. Featured in the "20 Must Watch YouTube Channels That Will Change Your Business” by Forbes, he helps entrepreneurs and creatives build their influence and income with online video through his seven-figure media company, Think Media. In this episode, Hala and Sean will discuss: - The best way to monetize YouTube from day one - Diversifying YouTube income beyond ad revenue - How to supercharge your YouTube earnings - Lesser-known YouTube features for increased earnings - Strategies for integrating YouTube into your sales funnel - Organic lead generation with YouTube - The shortest path to big earnings with a small channel - Sean’s formula for building sales funnels on YouTube - The two big ways to get discovered on YouTube - Ethical clickbait writing that works - The YouTube algorithm - And other topics… Sean Cannell is a leading YouTuber, business coach, and CEO of Think Media, with over 3 million subscribers across his channels. Through his seven-figure media company, he helps entrepreneurs and creatives build their influence and income with online video. He has been featured in the "20 Must Watch YouTube Channels That Will Change Your Business” by Forbes. Also an international speaker, he has shared his expertise on YouTube, online business, and digital marketing at events like VidCon Anaheim, Social Media Marketing World, Marketing Impact Academy, and Grow With Video Live. Resources Mentioned: Sean’s Website: https://www.seancannell.com/ Sean’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seancannell/ Sean’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/seancannell Sean’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seancannell/ Sean’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWWFavn3ym0w3myTD5OX59g Think Media’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/THiNKmediaTV Sean’s Free Class: https://courses.seancannell.com/youtube-1k-challenge-sign-up-march-2024 The Think Media Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-think-media-podcast/id1492533163 LinkedIn Secrets Masterclass, Have Job Security For Life: Use code ‘podcast’ for 30% off at yapmedia.io/course. Sponsored By: Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at youngandprofiting.co/shopify Justworks - Start your free month now at justworks.com/profiting Indeed - Get a $75 job credit at indeed.com/profiting Economist Education - Go to education.economist.com/PROFITING and enter my promo code PROFITING at registration to get 15% off any course from Economist Education. This offer ends on March 31st – don’t wait! Airbnb - Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at airbnb.com/host Porkbun - Get your .bio domain and link in bio bundle for just $5 from Porkbun at porkbun.com/Profiting Pipedrive - Go to youngandprofiting.co/pipedrive and get 20% off Pipedrive for 1 year! More About Young and Profiting Download Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com Get Sponsorship Deals - youngandprofiting.com/sponsorships Leave a Review - ratethispodcast.com/yap Watch Videos - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Follow Hala Taha LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@yapwithhala Twitter - twitter.com/yapwithhala Learn more about YAP Media Agency Services - yapmedia.io/
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Sean Cannell, he's included in the Forbes
20 must watch YouTube channels
that will change your business.
He runs a seven figure online video education company.
And helps individuals and brands learn
how to leverage online video and YouTube.
YouTube themselves have revealed the criteria
for how the algorithm works,
but a lot of people don't know this.
They consider watch history and previous viewer behavior.
So it's not just about being the coolest viral trend,
it's about the fact that people are different.
So when you start to understand that aspect,
this is why having a niche and having boundaries
around the type of content that you are creating
is so powerful because you wanna start getting recommended
along other content.
This is why competition is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Because competition and the consumption of subject matter
in these various niches is making a bigger pool
for everybody.
So there's big ways to get discovered on YouTube.
So number one is...
One is. Hey, young and profitors.
You are listening to part two of my YouTube series with Sean Cannell.
If you don't know who Sean Cannell is,
he's an author.
He's also a huge YouTuber himself with his podcast channel,
Think Media that has millions of podcast subscribers.
And he's also one of the top YouTube experts and teachers in the world.
He's also an entrepreneur. He's the CEO of Think Media,
a media agency and Sean is absolutely incredible.
I was blown away with all of his YouTube knowledge
in this episode, so much so that I asked him to stay on
an extra 45 minutes so that I could break it down
in a two-part episode because I just didn't wanna stop
learning from him.
I'm trying to grow my YouTube channel myself.
And selfishly, I had a lot of questions to ask him
that I think all of you are gonna find
super, super relevant.
So this is part two of our conversation.
We're really focused on monetization and growth strategies.
If you haven't heard part one yet, I would recommend that you go back,
listen to that. In that episode, we talk about foundational things,
why YouTube in 2024,
what are some of the questions and considerations we need to ask ourselves before
we start investing in a YouTube channel? So again,
listen to part one if you haven't yet.
And if you have already checked out part one, then enjoy part two of our episode with Sean Cannell.
Let's talk about the different ways that entrepreneurs and people in general can monetize YouTube.
What are the different ways when you're just starting out to when you've built a following?
Sean Cannell The best way to monetize when you're just starting on YouTube day one, also if you don't
have an offer and a sales process or a sales funnel yet, the very best way to get started
is affiliate marketing and even JV relationships.
What's exciting about this is you can start a real business adding value through free
content on YouTube and when appropriate, giving calls to action
and integrating in affiliate relationships.
Let's say you started a YouTube channel
about productivity for W-2s and entrepreneurs
and the best tools for that.
So then you can make a video on how to use ClickUp
or how to use Monday.com or ClickUp versus Monday.com
or Slack versus ClickUp.
Well, all these different SaaS products,
software as a service have affiliate programs.
And by using your affiliate link, putting it in the video,
adding value and then educating about it,
you can not only get a commission
if someone purchases the software,
but oftentimes you get continuity.
You may be paid every month.
So I think about one of my friends, Pat Flynn,
who has a podcast called Smart Passive Income.
And through talking about an email CRM,
believe it was ConvertKit or something,
and there's a Webber and there's been these other ones,
but I think it was ConvertKit, fill in the blank,
whatever CRM, over time, through adding valuable content,
people signed up for it and he got continuity,
and I wanna say it led to like $30,000 a month
in reoccurring.
There is actually a YouTube software that we recommend
that we're at about $22,000 in reoccurring revenue a month,
because again, it's not just the transaction
that person signs up on.
When someone gets this tool, loves it,
uses it for years, 99% of people listening to this
have things they pay for monthly that they love.
And so if you were the originator of that transaction,
what's cool about that is from day one,
if you make the right videos,
especially if it was something search-based,
and there's, we could spin off on a thousand different ways
to make money as an affiliate. But for a conversation sake, if you
were to do ConvertKit versus Active Campaign 2024, really break down the pros and cons, and those are
email CRMs, then you can affiliate link to both. This could be your first video on your channel,
and that video could get discovered,
get views and get transactions.
And you could have 50 bucks of reoccurring revenue a month,
300 bucks of reoccurring a month.
Over a couple of weeks,
especially the video keeps getting views.
And that's what we teach people.
Our favorite thing to do is rank videos and search.
Like create a video today that keeps getting viewed
for weeks, months and years to come.
And not just rank videos and search,
our definition of ranking is rank videos also in suggested,
which simply means either someone types in a search
and the video shows up on the first page,
or as people start looking for things,
the video gets recommended at the end of other videos
or suggested by the YouTube algorithm.
Either way, if you can get views while you snooze,
you've got a ranked video,
and if you've connected it to an income stream
like affiliate marketing, you're in a sweet spot. Good news about that is you
don't have to be monetized by YouTube yet to start earning money. You could
pretty much start from day one. The second thing I would say is once you hit
a thousand subscribers and four thousand hours of watch time, you could apply it
to the YouTube Partner Program. YouTube will start paying you for views on your
videos, and for 99% of entrepreneurs listening to this, I wouldn't recommend focusing on this.
However, just talk to my friend, Louis house.
He makes tens and tens and tens of thousands of dollars in terms of YouTube ad
revenue, not even his core business, but the size of his show has grown to such a
level we make around half a million dollars a year from the views on our
videos, YouTube ad revenue.
Now, if you spin off YouTube other income streams,
you can make super chats.
When you're live or premiering a video,
somebody can basically tip you.
People can also actually tip you.
You have to make sure you turn this on.
So one of the smallest tweaks for an established creator
that's like a business owner
who doesn't even think about this stuff
is to just turn on these features.
Cause sometimes by default they're turned off.
And when somebody it's called like tip jar or thank you,
they can do a thank you.
It's like two bucks, three bucks, five bucks.
So if you just add great content,
people out of the goodness of their heart
will just tip on a video
and you could do super chats, super stickers.
That gets more into like the gaming entertainment
live stream.
But if you got fans, they get by certain stickers.
You got channel memberships.
People are probably very familiar with memberships.
I recommend doing them off platform
because YouTube takes 30%.
If you had a hundred grand worth
of reoccurring revenue a month,
they'd take 30 grand if it was all
through their channel memberships.
It'd be like premium subscription
and you could just upload exclusive content.
You could do exclusive live streams.
There's an exclusive community tab.
So you just have kind of a sub community.
Now the benefit is YouTube does all the heavy lifting
and you don't gotta go anywhere else or whatever.
So it could bring you peace of mind,
but no matter what at high dollar,
I mean at low dollar figures,
but it's really painful at higher dollar figures.
I'm like, shoot.
And if I had all those people integrated,
you wouldn't want them to lead.
I'd be like, I don't want to give you $30,000 a year.
Because you could use Kajabi or school
or these other things, and you could save a lot off that.
However, you do have to move people off platform.
So super chats, channel memberships, super stickers,
thank yous, YouTube shopping is integrated now,
similar to TikTok Shopping.
And you could go direct with different retailers.
It's basically like affiliate marketing, but on YouTube Shorts, you could point to things.
And this wouldn't just only be if you're like a fashion, makeup, or skincare channel.
This would include cameras and tech and consumer electronics, and they might pay you 5, 10,
15%.
So you can look in the backend what retailers there are.
So then I think the biggest thing though,
for this audience is just this idea that
you gotta ask yourself is YouTube the business
and is content the business itself
or is YouTube a marketing channel
for your existing business?
So I think leads becomes the biggest opportunity
to your own products or services.
And you can start doing that day one
without your channel being monetized.
So I think about one of our students,
Jendevor Richter, when she had 546 subscribers,
she emailed us and said,
I just had my biggest revenue week ever in my business,
$11,000, because of what I implemented
from your program Video Ranking Academy.
Thank you so much.
And she only had 546 subscribers,
and her videos were getting 26 views, 88 views.
A couple hundred.
Her best video is a couple thousand.
She hadn't even crossed a thousand subscribers yet.
Her channel wasn't even monetized.
But if her channel got monetized by YouTube
with those amount of views, they'd be paying her like $6.
She'd be at a level like $22.
Whereas she had an $11,000 new week,
which that's why for business owners and entrepreneurs,
the question then becomes, how can I create a video
that will attract my ideal audience?
How can I then add value in that video
that builds trust and helps them get to know me?
And then what call to action can I give
that they'd be interested in to something probably free
or even just to book a call?
We have a lot of loan officers and real estate agents.
A lot of that is just add value
and like jump on the phone with us.
Add value, fill out the form form and then we'll follow up.
Then it's on you.
I mean, you've had many guests and you're an expert yourself.
Your sales process is now taking people off of YouTube.
How good are you at follow-up?
Is it email follow-up?
Is it social selling?
Is it, they are going to book a call and then that's up to you.
Is it they are gonna book a call? And then that's up to you.
But the power is that YouTube itself
can then drive traffic into that funnel, if you will,
and you could start monetizing instantly
when you start creating smart content.
You know, one other story that's interesting
is I think about my friend Levi Lassick,
read our book, YouTube Secrets,
his business partner, Travis Plum,
Dallas real estate agents. Small team, six people working, YouTube Secrets, his business partner, Travis Plum, Dallas real estate agents,
small team, six people working for him or something. And as far as marketing goes,
they're not investing in any marketing, no billboards, no yellow pages, no classified ads,
which by the way, whatever works as a digital YouTube guy, I'm all for traditional stuff if it's gonna work.
But all they did was focus on organic YouTube content.
Not even paid ads, not paid Facebook ads,
not paid leads from Zillow.
His focus on creating YouTube content
after reading our book and thinking about that.
And wouldn't you believe it,
after six months,
how many transactions have they converted in their business?
Zero.
How is that for a good news?
Like that's pretty exciting.
I mean, so, okay.
So that, but I love this story because it's realistic.
They committed seeing, okay,
I can see that in my local market for them it was Dallas.
Their channel is called Living in Dallas.
So they do neighborhood tours, house tours,
pros and cons of moving to Dallas, different
neighborhoods, all this stuff.
Six months, they got some leads, no transactions.
I think it's around 2021.
In the following 12 months, they do $90 million, which leads to about 2.9 collected real estate
commissions, 2.9 million from just organic YouTube traffic.
They started realizing that, you know,
if they're getting 10,000 views a month,
that equals 77 leads.
And here's also what's crazy about the leads.
The leads were so qualified.
They told me stories of docuSigns getting signed,
they never met the person.
They go, oh yeah, no, I trust you, you know,
whatever, I've been watching your videos. It's kind of weird trust you, you know, whatever, I've been watching your videos.
It's kind of weird to be on the phone with you.
I've been watching your videos.
I already know, like, and trust you.
I already have got a vibe.
I feel like I already know you.
Or when they meet in person, there's already like rapport.
And even though Levi might be meeting them for the first
time, this person had got to know them in video.
They tapped into search discovery, search terms,
as well as viral approaches.
Should I buy a house now?
Is the market crashing?
All this different stuff.
And only using YouTube.
And again, as they've scaled,
you start realizing we can hire somebody,
we can do paid ads.
Why not?
If anything works, keep scaling it up.
But that's just the power.
And to that point, at the end of nearly $3 million
in revenue their
channel was still under 5,000 subscribers. Wow. A small YouTube channel
but they were attracting the right people and I've heard real estate called
high ticket affiliate marketing because if you recommend $10 lipstick and you
get 3% then you just made 30 cents.
But if you sell a million dollar house and you get 3%,
then you just made $30,000.
So real estate is like high ticket affiliate marketing.
And let me throw in one nugget for your community.
If you were looking for a business model
or like the shortest path to making big money
with a small channel, JV partnerships
would be the best way to do that.
Meaning being an affiliate for somebody else
that has an event, coaching program, mastermind or course.
And the reason why is because of percentages.
Amazon gives me 4% on cameras and ticket price.
But let's say it's a thousand bucks, camera,
I get 4%, I make $40.
If you recommended somebody's educational program
That was a thousand dollars. Probably you're gonna get a fifty percent commission. You'd make five hundred dollars
so this is just a leverage conversation, so if you could start creating videos and
One example if you go to a website like clickbank.com
You could find somebody's like marathon training program
So if you started like a running channel marathon marathon training, and maybe you're also like,
well, I'm not really an expert, but I'm a hobbyist.
This is the marathon training program I did.
My stepbrother, Alan, Escaland did an Ironman,
and he paid for a couple thousand dollar program
because Ironmans are no joke.
So if he documented his journey
and got other people inspired,
and then recommends that as an affiliate,
he can make thousands of dollars in a commission.
If he learns how to rank videos, passive income,
I mean, you only need 100 transactions
if you make a thousand dollar commission
to make six figures.
So I think that this goes into that framework
of you could be a knowledge broker, a reporter,
and eventually the expert.
I think one of the coolest ways to start a YouTube channel
is to be a reporter, to do what you're doing,
and you can bring on other guests,
a knowledge broker of other people's knowledge,
and when they have products and programs,
you recommend those.
And again, you might be getting 77 views on your videos,
376 views on your videos,
but if you're attracting the right people
with the right titles and the right information, and then someone's like, oh cool, I can go deeper with this
person compared to a super chat, someone tipping you $3 on YouTube and that's
where 99% of creators are stuck. Is there a kind of in a somewhat small-minded
money mentality by not thinking about better vehicles to earn bigger income?
So, so smart. So many things that I wanna dive deep on.
And one thing that I wanna add is sponsorships, right?
So once you actually have an audience,
you can do things like what I do.
If you guys are watching my channel,
I'm always doing like host read ads
that sponsors are paying me for.
But of course, it just depends on how far along you are
because you need thousands of views
for that to actually make sense monetarily.
You mentioned this at a high level,
but I'm curious to understand,
can you give us an example of a sales funnel
for like a coach or an entrepreneur?
What would that sales funnel look like on YouTube?
My favorite way to do it, and this gets very granular,
is I like teaching and I like teaching with numbers.
So if you're a coach, what's three things?
So insert pain point that you solve.
Three little known tax strategies
to save thousands for business owners.
Pretty sick title.
You get in the video.
Number one, Augusta rule.
Number two, cost seg bonus depreciation.
Number three, whatever.
After number two, tie in the second point
that you have a free thing that goes deeper on it.
And by the way, if you want access to my cost seg
bonus depreciation calculator, or just in the whole video,
these are just three of the strategies.
If you want my guide with 21 of the best tax strategies
for entrepreneurs, just hit the link in the description
or go to thinktaxstrategies.com.
That doesn't exist, but you give that pretty URL.
Maybe it does.
I don't know.
So, it's not ours though.
One of the reasons why I like making it point number two
though is because if it polarizes
the right people to download it, good, but it's also going to potentially stop the viewing
session, which is not what YouTube wants most.
I think you absolutely should call people off the platform, but do it in such a way
that also people could stay on and there's still a reason for them to stay on for the
next point.
So that's why I would do that on point number two and I would tie it to the point.
You teach a little bit about that,
and then you're like, hey, listen,
if you actually want to go deeper,
my entire LinkedIn Navigator deep dive training,
I would give it to you for free.
It's 20 minutes long.
Click the link in the description.
So that's how I would do it.
And then it's like online marketing best practices.
I think the naming of whatever you're giving away free,
the desire of what you're giving away free, the desire of what you're giving away free,
alignment on the entire thing and congruency.
Congruency is that when they land on the page,
they're on the right page,
people have horrible landing pages, navigation above,
it doesn't even seem like it's them,
there's not authority there, doesn't load,
malware notification.
I mean, it's just kind of stressful.
Someone's like, man, there's so many things. You just want to remove friction.
Sometimes the biggest mistake is you're making a video
that have people thinking one way
and giving a call to action that's not related.
Think about what video would attract
the ideal person for your opt-in.
What opt-in would attract the ideal person for your offer? And those
things are broken all the time in people's businesses. Someone opts in, but they're not
the right psychology, psychographics, demographics, because it was a cool free thing, but did
it really align? And then the YouTube videos, if you were talking about how to hire team
members in a video, and then you were like, and by the way, if you were talking about how to hire team members in a video,
and then you were like, and by the way,
if you wanna download my 21 tax savings guide,
like not horrible because maybe some people are like,
that does sound interesting, but the reason they're there,
the better guide would be a freebie that's like, you know,
and if you wanna get my scripts, my job interview scripts
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and lock in the right candidates,
just go to thinkhiringscripts.com
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So that would be my biggest thing.
The strategy of the content that attracts the right people
then the opt-in that ties together,
concurrency and the whole thing.
And then again, a good sales process and funnels
that you probably have endless episodes
in your own library of some good stuff
on making great funnels.
But what's powerful about that is it is a psychology,
everybody listening to this needs to know.
Thinking about their whole, you could call it sales journey,
the whole customer journey,
thinking about the entire thing start to finish.
And that is a never ending process of tweaking.
All of us can improve it.
Ours is probably a six out of 10.
And we've done pretty well.
Small tweaks lead to giant peaks.
And so just being willing to be like,
can I change my opt-in in the future?
Can I change my offer page?
As I'm just my offer page,
the checkout page and the thank you page,
and then follow up and what do I wanna do next?
And is that all aligned?
And usually when things are not working,
it's just because a piece is broken
and there's some cognitive dissonance
that happens or something.
Sometimes from YouTube to your landing page,
it's not quite what it looked like
and all these little details like that.
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get all the historic data,
understand all the different averages
for click rates, conversion rates,
and then you're able to see
where is everything falling apart?
Where is the leak?
Where do I need to improve?
And you can even do like bottom up forecasting
where you can say,
okay, if I want to generate $50,000,
I need to send out this many DMs,
I need to get this many clicks,
this many people need to show up to my webinar,
this many people need to convert,
and you can work backwards.
But it first starts with being intentional.
Intentional when you're designing it,
intentional to track your data,
intentional to get your averages,
and then think about where you can improve.
100%.
Okay, so a couple more growth strategy questions for you.
In terms of growing your channel organically,
you said it's very important to get top of the search results.
Also, the suggested sidebar is really important.
So how can we get better at actually being discovered
organically on YouTube?
So there's two big ways to get discovered on YouTube.
The first is YouTube suggested. The second is YouTube search. organically on YouTube. So there's two big ways to get discovered on YouTube.
The first is YouTube suggested,
the second is YouTube search.
The fastest way to go viral on YouTube
is to tap into YouTube suggested.
That is the YouTube recommended engine.
75% of views basically come from YouTube
recommending content.
And the true generator of virality is YouTube putting your video on people's
home pages, putting in the suggested feed, and then the velocity
of as as people are exposed to the title in the thumbnail,
they click on it, they watch it and YouTube promotes it to
more people and they click on it and they watch it.
That's the viral side.
The remaining 25% of traffic is from people searching on
Google or YouTube or elsewhere.
External traffic, you can send an email to your list,
go watch my video, share it on social media,
and there are a few other surfaces,
channel pages, internal playlists.
So let's go in reverse then and say,
to get tap into search though,
even though it's not as viral,
what I love about it is it's practical.
It's slow and steady wins.
And it also is very much evergreen
because sometimes viral can go up,
but then it goes down.
And some people are known for maybe getting a lot of views
on a singular video,
they can't sustain the pace of always trying
to make these viral videos.
So they disappear.
So for example, like our channel is so heavily search-based,
we like can't drop under four million long form views
a month.
We just stay there because of our library.
It's like anti-fragile, unbreakable.
It's a mindset that a lot of people can't even relate to
because some people might then hit a 10 million viewed month,
but then they fall off.
It's like a yo-yo diet.
So what I love about search-based
is even though it might be slower,
it's kind of like compound interest or investing slowly
or letting your real estate appreciate slowly.
Just a long-term mindset.
And so search-based would be about
using keyword research tools, understanding psychology,
what are people searching for, and writing good titles,
of course, still making good content,
title, thumbnail, content, description,
some video optimization, and going into it
knowing I'm optimizing my video for search.
Now there's also, it's kind of two different ways
of thinking because how you'd optimize your video
for search, you might title your video
how to interview potential employees.
That would be a search based title.
Probably not viral, that niche and business advice like that
usually wouldn't go viral anyways.
But the thing about that, right,
is it becomes a resource that may be watched
for the next 10 years.
So that's what's kind of cool.
Now, interesting thing you could do though,
is the suggested angle on that same video
would be one outrageous mistake business owners make when hiring.
That's still niche but that's the kind of titles that are going viral right now it's more open loop more curiosity based less how to keyword format.
So if i look at some of our even newest podcast which we can do both. less how-to, keyword format.
So if I look at some of our even newest podcasts,
which we kind of do both,
we just did an interview with Louis House,
it's called 85 minutes of strategic content tactics
with Louis House.
We don't even say what it is.
Now some people might say Louis House on AI,
personal branding,
and the state of influencer marketing in 2024.
So I think it's just picking and choosing your positioning.
Genius personal branding tips with Chris Doe. I'm thinking if the person has authority or not,
if they aren't known, I may not even include them in the title. This gets into the tactic of naming
your YouTube videos different than your audio podcast too, because audio podcasts cannot see thumbnails. And they also longer, more detailed of what you're about to get.
This is hard for us to sustain. We're talking about it right now. It's like the track of
how they're positioned differently. But here's one. This YouTube strategy will guarantee
views in 2024. And then the thumbnail is kind of an open loop. So that target there would be suggested because then it's like what YouTube strategy.
Whereas if I said how to use affiliate marketing to make money with YouTube.
Interesting thing is that title probably wouldn't perform super great, but would be
rankable over the long haul for people that already know what affiliate marketing is.
Whereas the reverse would be how to make thousands of dollars a month
with this simple YouTube strategy.
And the answer in the video is affiliate marketing.
So that's pretty high level in terms of are we going after suggested?
Are we going after search?
If you get really advanced to this stuff, you can pivot later, ride suggested for a few months. The video tapers off, then pivot it to
make it search based. You can edit it. Yeah. And it's kind of now it's like down. It's already got
its established watch time. But sometimes the problem with the suggested style is if we even
want to search our own library
and we do have like a customer service and stuff and they try to link our
videos they can't find it. If they search affiliate marketing because you can
search a channel there's a little search bar on people's channels on desktop. Well
it doesn't come up because it just is like how to make a thousand dollars with
this one strategy. So I'm not trying to overwhelm the listener to be indecisive
but those would be two different skill sets to master.
What I've noticed is that a lot of people lean on one or the other
and the most powerfully positioned creators tap into both.
It's like diversification of your portfolio too.
You've got long-term search-based evergreen videos ranking,
and then you also got some breakout videos that are crushing.
I did a video about an AI tool. If I would have just
revealed what the tool was, it wouldn't have done nearly as
well because no one knows about the tool yet. There's a good
book, a couple books to get. There's one called Great Leads
by Michael Masterson, but it has to do with awareness of where
the audience is right now. So if you give away too much in the
title, it means they're already problem aware.
Are they problem aware? Are they solution aware?
Are they pain point aware?
We call it the mass appeal method.
If you're going to go more viral, you want to be more mass appeal.
Whereas if you go all the way down to like solution aware,
how to use click up step by step is solution aware.
Whereas how to overcome overwhelm
and organize your digital life.
Click up is the answer, but you went much broader.
I'm like, oh, I'm overwhelmed
and I wanna organize my life.
So I did a video called
this AI tool creates videos in seconds with no editing
with a sick thumbnail.
Video has 418,000 views.
It's getting 115 views per hour.
And it's 17x outlier score.
It's doing 17 times better than other videos
on the channel and still going up.
So it's getting tons of clicks,
but you don't know what the tool is.
It's creating videos in seconds?
What?
No editing?
What?
All this curiosity around it,
and you'll notice a lot of the quote unquote viral videos.
For us, we also say VFM, viral for me.
So it encouraged the listener,
if you get 50 views on your videos,
then following some of these tips,
if you get 500, that's viral for you.
You just got 10X views, like viral for me.
We might be able to get you 1,000X,
because if you get 50 views, then if you get 50,000,
you just got 1,000X more views.
Using these strategies could be that,
okay, would it be appropriate?
And then the final thing in all of that
is as skilled as you get at psychology, copywriting,
and I could even say ethical clickbait writing.
Because clickbait is manipulative and deceptive,
but you need to learn how to get the click.
So just you wanna do it ethically.
To do so, what's so important in all of this is not just trying to come up with some amazing
title but then realizing that content doesn't deliver.
You want there to be congruence there.
And so the dream is to say, okay, even if I'm working by myself, we now do it as a team,
but if I do it by myself, I never write only one title for a video.
I always write at least five.
And then I say after I've just challenged myself
to write five, to come up with five,
use AI, chat GPT, massage it myself,
look at this, look at that, boom, I got at least five.
Then I can score it.
A tip is also, if you have Facebook group
or you have some way to survey,
there's limited characters on X and some other platforms,
but the YouTube community tab gives you enough characters.
I did it this morning.
I took five titles of a video that I wanted to pivot
because it wasn't doing that well,
posted them on the YouTube community tab, people voted.
50% of people voted for the winner.
The next highest was 21%.
That right there, only 103 votes.
That right there, small data will map to big data.
That will tell you which title is best.
So challenge yourself to write five titles, write it all down.
But sometimes the best one, then my final question is,
yeah, but do I really actually deliver on that in the video?
That's a good title. That's a really good open loop.
But does the video let people down after that?
Because making short-term decisions to get a click that ends up leaving people feeling
dissatisfied after watching the video or deceived is the wrong move for your brand.
But writing clickbait titles that actually deliver on the promise thus being ethical is the ultimate skill set in 2024
for not just winning on YouTube, but I think winning with copy across platforms.
So many great strategies. I'm going to have my video team rewind that piece back
because I feel like we need better support with our titles.
So the other question that I have about getting
searched and ranked is the algorithm,
because I know that every social platform is considering
different metrics to decide whether or not
they're going to serve content to users on the platform.
So what are the different metrics that you think the YouTube algorithm is judging to decide whether or not they're gonna serve content to users on the platform. So what are the different metrics that you think the YouTube algorithm is judging
to decide whether or not they'll show your video to users in this adjusted feed?
Yeah, here's the cool thing.
YouTube themselves have revealed the criteria for how the algorithm works,
but a lot of people don't know this.
The first one, and the often misunderstood one,
is they consider watch history and previous viewer behavior.
So it's not just about being the coolest viral trend.
It's about the fact that people are different.
So if you are helping people with weight loss,
intermittent fasting, helping people getting keto,
helping people get in keto. When YouTube's recommending videos,
after someone's viewer behavior of searching for keto,
keto diets, keto meal plans,
then YouTube takes that data
and will start recommending similar content.
Now we could take that even further.
You start having these associations that YouTube makes,
meaning that it's likely for many people
who maybe start pursuing ketosis to maybe also be into Andrew Huberman.
They're into sleep. Should I drink alcohol or not? They're into biohacking, so Dave Asprey.
So maybe they're also looking at red light therapy and some other things.
And then maybe more high level again, they're looking at just the personal development or self development of like a Tim Ferriss. So when you start to
understand that aspect that this is why having a niche and having boundaries around the type
of content that you are creating is so powerful because you want to start getting recommended along other content.
This is why competition is a good thing, not a bad thing because competition
and the consumption of subject matter in these various niches is making a bigger
pool for everybody.
When people start to go deep in a particular subject that they love, they
don't watch just one video about it.
They spin off and watch multiple videos about it,
multiple different angles around it.
So I'm a big Bible guy, it's part of my faith.
And so you could get into like Bible study.
And then you might get into like some obscure things
in the Bible, like this is pretty niche, aliens.
You get into the Nephilim,
you get into these different things.
Well, when somebody starts going down that rabbit hole,
they'll watch one person's 45
minutes, somebody else's 45 minutes, and now your title and your thumbnail, you just need
to know your goal is to get recommended and discovered along other people.
Tactically, this also could be why you react to or even commentate on and join the conversation
because your goal is to get your video recommended with other videos that are ranking.
So number one is people's watch history
and their previous viewing behavior.
Number two is click through rate.
And bottom line, YouTube has two major metrics,
click through rate and watch time.
So it's, are people clicking on this video?
One of the cool things YouTube is doing right now
is it's recommending a lot of brand new channels
and small channels.
This is totally true.
Channels with only a few subscribers,
channels with only a handful of views.
They're showing up on my watch page.
They're showing up and most of the people listening to this
just take my word for it because I don't know
how much YouTube you consume.
But if you do consume YouTube, watch what happens
and notice that obscure channels
will start getting recommended.
I will keep it vague, but I was following a scandal
that an organization is in right now.
And there's, I now, because I've just consumed
one person talking about that,
I'm getting recommended all kinds of other channels.
This is me, I'm meeting total strangers.
So people feel overwhelmed, like I can't break out, I can't grow. It's not true. But you want to be talking about the right
topics, thinking about this is a little bit of having aware, being aware of the zeitgeist in
your industry, being aware of the psychology in your industry. You don't chase trends unrelated,
but talking about the new and the now and understanding how to do culture surfing is important.
And so YouTube is recommending brand new channels.
But here is the painful part for you listening to this.
If you get a chance on this free platform to get in front of a complete stranger,
are you going to miss that opportunity or are you going to get it? Good news is stranger. Are you gonna miss that opportunity
or are you gonna get it?
Good news is it doesn't just come once in a lifetime,
but what I've noticed is that sometimes
when those channels get recommended,
I'm like, that title doesn't really grip me,
that thumbnail is not that great.
And those are gonna be the two metrics.
Actually, there's three metrics.
It's title, thumbnail, but the biggest one is topic,
because what is included in that topic, right time,
right place.
So it's the topic itself and then a good title that makes it even more interesting.
Like that's an irresistible video.
And so you want to get the click and those are what you're optimizing for.
What videos am I talking about?
What title, what thumbnail?
And then you want to keep, hold the viewer's attention.
Now, the question might be, what's a good click-through rate?
It's actually kinda unanswerable
because actually a good click-through rate,
your most viral videos will have
ever-decreasing click-through rates
because YouTube continues to expand
the amount of people it's giving you impressions in front of
which drives the click-through rate down.
It's similar to social.
Engagement rate always goes down as you get bigger.
Yeah, so I've got videos with millions of views
and click through rates 3%,
but I'm glad I got the millions of views.
Some people go, I got a 75% click through rate.
How many views did the video get?
33.
It's like, well, yeah,
because your 33 subscribers are super engaged,
which is awesome.
And you shows you're really resonating with them.
But if you want to go broader,
it's going to drive the click through rate down.
Now, if you could get a click through rate above 10%,
and then here would be the key.
If the staying power, if it stays high,
as it's increased to more people.
This means, psychology wise, starting to think about,
one of the ways you could open your videos is like,
hey guys, welcome back.
Well, cold traffic, people who don't know you,
they're not hey guys and they're not welcome back.
They've never been there.
So thinking about not just talking to who's here now,
but is your video positioned to be digested,
to build a relationship, to build bridges
with people who are just discovering it for the first time?
How broad appeal is the topic
and how effectively does it connect with new people?
That'd be kind of a key to hacking the algorithm.
So then how do I get the click?
How do I keep people watching
from a good hook in the beginning
to the way the content's optimized?
James Clear, author of Atomic Habits,
said a quote that really changed my life.
It's something I've applied,
but it can be applied to us as YouTube creators.
And it really reminded me when I'm in a rush.
And the quote was that,
often times the difference between good and great
is an extra round of revision.
Now to be clear, James Clear wrote Atomic Habits,
which is like the best-selling book in the last decade.
It's like the best-selling book every week, and it'll probably be the most perennial seller
for years to come.
So we're talking about someone who didn't just do shallow work and just try to rush
their social media content for this week or their podcast episode or their video.
They went deeper.
But just an extra round of revision can give you exponential results.
When Mr. Beast was interviewed on the Joe Rogan podcast,
he said, if people would just put 20% more effort
into an individual video,
they could get 10 times more views.
So I think there's something about when I say,
how can you keep attention,
spending some time in editing, trimming the fluff.
Right about that point, I got a little long winded.
For the YouTube student, as you continue to post videos and commit to getting 1% better
with every upload, what it would mean is actually going back to your audience retention curve
and noticing if there's any significant dips or if there's any points because then it starts
helping you say, okay, maybe I should cut those parts off or I'm going too long. But
you want to be brief, be bright, be fun and be done. You want that content to hold attention.
And if you could have an over 10% click-through rate
and an over 75% average percentage viewed,
then you can really trigger the algorithm.
The other thing that is interesting is longer form videos,
if they're generally good, call it an hour or two hours,
can also just get 15 minutes of watch time on average.
That'd be the average view duration.
And that's not a bad thing.
The percentage is pretty low.
The percentage is much lower, but minutes matter most.
So YouTube just wants time on the platform period.
And so of course, percentage viewed would also help
if it was a 10 minute video
and most people watched till eight minutes.
But if you could just keep people on videos for 20 minutes, the average excellent amount
of time on YouTube is around five.
So it's 4x the typical short video.
So when YouTube's eyes are just like, who cares if the video is long?
This video on average, people are watching 20 minutes in a world where there's a million
other things to do.
So as we recap and we get to the final one, number one, watch history,
previous viewer behavior.
This is why you don't have to copy the famous YouTuber.
You just got to be yourself.
We have people in ham radio niche, people that are doing collectible cars,
collectible train sets, people that are doing obscure personal development,
breathing techniques.
You don't need to be fancy have fancy editing computer
But you need to know your niche because once people start going deep
Yeah, like I said Bible study some different things what people are looking for maybe the quality of the information
I'm not looking for like
Fancy b-roll you're looking for somebody who's really studied or whatever. It's knowing
What are the other successful channels? How can I get recommended with those two?
Click through rate,
how can I have the highest click through rate possible
through topic, title, thumbnail?
Then how do I optimize my content
for keeping the viewer watching the video
for as long as possible?
Average view duration, average percentage viewed.
The fourth one almost nobody knows about,
and it's viewer satisfaction.
And one of the things YouTube does is surveys.
And here's why this is interesting.
They don't always do them, but what they realized was, okay, in some cases, maybe
somebody will watch 30 minutes of a video.
However, when they're done with the video, they're mad because the video maybe was
really good at keeping you watching,
continue to promise you value,
and we've probably all been in something like that,
where maybe somebody was like,
and I'm about to tell you the secret.
How you can lose 50 pounds in two seconds.
Trust me, in just a second, but before we get there.
And then once you get there, like the payoff is a letdown.
So what they use these surveys for, here and there,
and I mean, small data leads to big data, they're wondering satisfaction and the surveys
let them know not just how many minutes did you spend on the platform but how
did you feel afterwards and this is cool when you think about the developers at
Google and YouTube. What they want to happen it's not just time on platform
long as possible. So minutes matter most. Get people watching your videos,
keep them binging your videos.
There's tactics like creating series.
They don't just watch one video, they watch multiple.
That's another metric that's kind of more obscure.
Average video viewed per viewer.
They don't just watch one video on your channel,
but on average they watch four.
It's a better signal because it's not just the minutes,
but they binge your content.
They go deep in your library. So if you can connect through end cards and different things and series and
part ones and part twos, but the satisfaction is interesting because the final thing they want is
they want to know that if they've spent all that time that they're satisfied after and check this
out, they want you to come back. So the worst possible thing that could happen in YouTube's eyes is that your experience
after hanging on the platform made you not wanna come back.
So if you're also a channel,
my friend Neil Patel, all star marketer,
also talks about YouTube is very happy
if you send external traffic,
and when you have a good email list, blast that list,
boom, a bunch of external traffic is sent to your video, YouTube's pumped
because you're assisting in them reaching their goals
of keeping people on the platform,
getting them to come back to the platform.
And so if they're satisfied,
my experience was good in that viewing session,
other people's videos included, and I come back later.
And then furthermore, this is why you can go in your analytics and see return viewers
and new viewers is now isolated in the analytics.
If you are satisfying people, and I might add of less weight, but they look at viewer
signals like like comment, 99% of YouTubers say smash the like button
and comment for the YouTube algorithm.
That's actually not that big of a signal,
but it is of satisfaction.
Like or dislike, even dislikes is engagement,
what YouTube likes, but they, again,
they want that satisfaction.
It's a lot to process,
but if you think about those four things
and optimize for those.
And then the final thing is this, replace the word algorithm with people.
You're not optimizing for the algorithm.
You're optimizing for people.
If they get a video, you start getting into a new hobby.
You start getting into running.
How do I train for a marathon as a woman in her forties?
And YouTube figures out that's your ambition.
So then YouTube starts sending you running shoe videos and nutrition videos
and training videos from all kinds of different creators and you're pumped
because you want to run your first marathon in your 40s.
So now you're watching all that content.
You're pumped.
You're clicking on certain videos.
So that thumbnail looks good.
That title looks good.
They start recommending you more and then again you then also realize
the mindset, the psychographic of that person is also into Andrew Huberman and is also into
Rich Roll and then you start going down these rabbit. The reason those people get recommended is because they're talking about running and they're runners and there might be some different
nutrition things and even other things completely unrelated because people are weird. They have
different clusters of interests,
but ultimately you're optimizing for people.
So if she's satisfied, if she clicks on the video
and then enjoys it and then is satisfied and comes back
and now you become her go-to expert, go-to helper,
go-to friend that is helping her reach that result
and all the ancillary things
that would come around that goal, then people like result and all the ancillary things that would come around that goal,
then people like her and all kinds of other runners
of all different ages as well,
start getting recommended and boom,
you've hacked the algorithm, your channel is growing,
views are increasing,
and you're continually optimizing for those metrics.
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I love what you're saying because algorithms change all the time, but if you think about
people and human behavior, that stuff never really changes.
And so it's a way safer, more sustainable strategy.
So the other part that I wanted to talk to you
in terms of growth was actually paid ads on YouTube,
because I see a lot of people like Dan Lok, Louis Howes,
they're all doing paid ad strategy to grow their channel.
I know there's some pros and cons to doing that.
Could you just walk us through what you think about it?
First of all, typically it's not a very good idea
if you just want views.
There actually though is a new way inside of YouTube
to pay for views that they added.
That's like better than Google AdSense
typically used for marketing.
99% of the time though, paying for views
via Google AdSense is not effective.
The reason why is you didn't earn the subscriber,
you didn't earn the trust, you didn't earn the person.
So even if they're like, that's cool,
maybe check it out later,
it's kind of like how many things have you're like,
well, that download sounds cool, but it's lost.
Whereas if people discover you on their own merits,
this would be the organic traffic piece of things.
When their pain point is highest, they discover you.
They come to you not because of an, if you will, intrusive ad,
but because of them on their term.
They knock on your door.
You didn't knock on their door.
Hey, do you want to buy this vacuum cleaner?
They knocked on your door wanting to buy the vacuum cleaner.
Hey, do you have a vacuum cleaner?
What's the best vacuum cleaner for 2024 for a small apartment?
Boom.
I'll tell you about five of them.
Affiliate links in the description.
This person's so awesome.
And then your expertise.
So that's thing one.
Thing two is you should absolutely use paid ads
across platforms when you have a converting offer
because if organic is slow and steady growth like a garden,
paid is jet fuel.
But I'm a big proponent of direct response brand building.
So brand building period is let me pay for views and awareness and a billboard let's say by the way if you're louis vitton respect you know if you're nike.
Yeah you should have billboards this is a different game or playing but if you're a small startup.
have billboards. This is a different game we're playing. But if you're a small startup, even if you're doing eight fig, like you're still a small startup, I'm just like, why
not pay for direct response brand building, which would simply be this. You're just doing
paid traffic on YouTube, Meta, X, Pinterest, add a profit and getting millions of impressions
in the process and millions of earned followers.
Now the depth of those followers,
like for example, when we do like a promotion,
I always grow like 4,000 Instagram followers.
Now sometimes I lose a thousand,
but I'm like, that's fine, like of course.
They like during it, they follow me,
they decide they don't like me.
Good, it's a self-filtering system.
Like I had to vibe with him or I didn't wanna stick around.
But then mind you, that promotion was profitable. meaning we are going to have 2X, 3X, 4X, 5X,
6X, ROAS, return on ad spend, and I grew with 3,000 followers.
That's direct response brand building.
Whereas if I just paid to grow 4,000 followers, I'm still going to probably lose one or 2,000
and I'm out of the money.
So all day long, I am only really a proponent
because why wouldn't?
If I can grow my brand at a profit,
then it's just how much can we scale that profitably?
And that's how I would approach it.
The final thing, and this is New School 2024,
there's what's called the self-sustaining funnel.
And Ravi Avuvalo is just breaking this down.
Some of the top YouTubers like Iman Ghazi,
top entrepreneur YouTubers, young guy, huge.
We're living through a trust recession.
Lowest level of trust in like 40 years.
Less people are opting in,
less people are going through sales processes.
And so this is a new wave.
People are just putting their web class on YouTube
and selling on YouTube.
No opt-in, value-based, 30 minutes of value up front,
20 minutes of a sale, doing the whole stack.
Organically letting that video serve people,
just being like, hey, if you want more,
here's the deal and this is what it is.
Not behind an opt-in page, not anywhere else,
but then they run ads to that.
And what you have happen is you have cost per view,
you also have cost per earned view
because the video is public,
so you start getting organic lift.
So the video gets organic lift, you get cost per view.
Now you're not getting a lead,
although you are if you're smart and retargeting.
And so ultimately you can retarget,
you don't have their contact information first party,
but you can retarget people who've consumed the video.
So you can at least with further paid follow up
on a warm audience that's been created off of that video.
But all that to say is if I'm doing paid ads,
that's kind of a hybrid of thing one.
Don't do it to just get views. You'd be doing it in a dark post method,
which is how most people run YouTube ads. This pre-roll can only be seen as a pre-roll.
And now mind you, you're not just uploading like, hey, don't skip this ad. I'm about like that kind
of, you're not doing that. What you're doing though is you're taking, in a way like a free web class, free value,
really good valuable content that really serves.
And like a YouTube video with a great title
and a great thumbnail that people would want to watch
on its own merits and would do well
on its own merits organically.
But rather than being like, okay,
and then go watch my class and whatever else,
and then pivot and you just go into your offer.
Because the YouTube ad can actually be really long, right?
YouTube ads can be as long as you want.
I've seen two-hour YouTube ads.
It's a public video that's now also, it's getting both.
And we did have this debate,
and I don't know I have a clear answer,
but it was also do paid ads hurt the organic on your channel.
And YouTube employees have said there are two algorithms.
Meaning if you start running ads on that video,
the metrics are gonna be separate
because here's what would happen too.
If you talk about just like watch time and click through rate,
you're gonna really push that down with paid ads.
And if then by pushing those numbers down so dramatically,
it was harmful to you,
then it would hurt the organic.
According to YouTube employees,
it's two different algorithms. They're sort of like the paid side of what you're doing on that video and would hurt the organic. According to YouTube employees, it's two different algorithms.
There's sort of like the paid side
of what you're doing on that video,
and there's the organic side.
That's a new wave, new school thing to test.
Think about that.
And it's sort of back to like authenticity,
vulnerability, radical transparency.
It's like, hey, here's some free stuff.
Later on, I'll tell you about my other stuff.
Let me know.
We can help you at a deeper level.
You're gonna enjoy this regardless.
And you're just putting it out there.
And Ravi gave me a specific numbers on our podcast, which dropped an episode about those things.
It was like normally doing some higher ticket stuff, end to end marketing agency.
He paid like $30, $50 a lead for qualified leads. All of this to say, when I think about
direct response brand building, what you're also after is brand lift. And what brand lift
means is when you think about like purple mattress, or there's the whole squatty potty
thing, you have the direct response ad, whether or not that converted. But when you do that much spend at that level, you can search how many people search your
brand name on Google.
Why did the amount of just organic search of your name go higher at the exact same time
you were running the ads?
Well, obviously because you were running the ads, but the brand lift is the brand name
and that could be your personal brand or the brand gets lifted because of the paid traffic.
So the integration of all the above strategies
we just said would be the goal here.
And that is, I think you could consider
putting a value-based sales
and then sales presentation on YouTube publicly,
run ads around that,
absolutely do paid traffic at a profit
because why wouldn't you anyways,
it's kind of a separate conversation.
But my personal advice, the way I would do it,
some people have pulled off the ability
to convert paid ads into viewers that care
and subscribers that become long-form subscribers,
but it's rare.
I'd rather just run ads at a profit
and with the brand Lyft, discover a percentage of people
that are like, man, that's so cool.
The reason they discovered me was because of paid ads,
but they stuck around,
but I was able to run those paid ads at a profit.
So I didn't just be like,
hey, was that billboard, did it work or not?
And I think what I like about this, it's all measurable.
It's the two different worlds of the idea of,
yeah, I don't know how we feel, like how are we measuring?
And we're living in a world with digital, right?
Where we can track it, track spend at a profit and how we measure it.
Sometimes maybe that brand lift is less measurable, but I'm okay with that
because I already made a profit on the spend.
So I go, yeah, I mean, we grew 4,000 followers.
It looks like we lost 1500 on Instagram.
I'm sure some of those were organic.
It wasn't all from the paid cause we also were posting, but we grew.
We measured that people on sales calls mentioned they saw this here, this there.
It's only one person that said that, but chances are we could attribute that to more.
So I would never in a marketing conversation be comfortable with only if I was working
with an agency or something with only that kind of language.
So I'm like, okay, we talked to one person.
And so that means thousands are being reached.
I'd be like, dude, if you can't measure it, I mean, for sure that one.
But I think that's what's cool is if you could figure out how to crack the code on paid ads
at a profit and track tangible and less tangible brand lift results, conversations, sales calls, feedback here at DMHERA,
whatever, then you're just in such a win-win combo
that you want to scale that to the moon.
It's so good.
And with the YouTube ad strategy,
I was always told by other experts,
don't do it, it will ruin your channel.
You just said right now,
YouTube told you it's two different algorithms,
so it shouldn't impact your channel negatively.
And as I was mentioning, Ravi, Abu Valla and me, we're going to reconnect in six months
because he's aggressively doing this.
We're not doing that aggressively.
We just run dark posts, aka unlisted YouTube videos that are just for the purpose of ads
that again are actually less value based.
And they're more like, hey, coming up or right now it's like for our event it's like hey our event's coming up
if you want to hear Dave Ramsey and Shalene Johnson then come out.
So you're not publishing them but you're able to run them as ads and you can also publish a video
and run it as an ad. You could also publish a video and run it as an ad because it's going to
be in your YouTube library one way or another. It needs to be in your YouTube library
if you're gonna run it with that account, which we do.
And a lot of people do that unlisting strategy, right?
Where you basically run ads on an unlisted video
and then you publish it with views already on it
so that it has social proof.
You could, I would never recommend buying views,
but if all you wanted was social proof,
like you just wanted the video to have a couple thousand
or 10,000 views, it'd be way cheaper than using Google
would be to buy views.
That's not a recommended strategy, Brian,
but like 10,000 views on your video would be like five bucks.
It would be like $2.
You just dropped so many knowledge bombs,
so really appreciate your time here.
I end my show with two questions
that I ask all of my guests,
and then we do something fun at the end of the year with it.
So it doesn't have to be about the topic of today's episode.
You could just speak from your heart.
What is one actionable thing our young and profitors can do today
to become more profitable tomorrow?
Win the morning and slay all day.
Your morning routine is critical to all day success,
and your morning routine starts at night.
So I often think tomorrow is more important than tonight.
When my willpower is low, when I'm fatigued,
when maybe I'll reach for food or beverage
that's not gonna serve me in the morning.
If I get good sleep, write down my goals at night,
it sets me up for a powerful morning, it sets me up for a powerful morning,
which sets me up for a powerful day.
And if you string together multiple powerful days in a row,
next thing you know, you have a young and profiting life
that is unstoppable.
I love it.
And my last question is,
what is your secret to profiting in life?
And this can go beyond business.
My secret to profiting in life and this can go beyond business. My secret to profiting in life is reverse engineering
everything back from what matters most.
If I gain the applause of the crowd,
but lose the love and respect of my children, I've failed.
If I grow the biggest business,
but blow up my marriage in the process,
in my definition, I've failed.
So I wanna make sure that the people closest to me love and respect me the process, in my definition, I've failed. So I wanna make sure that the people closest to me
love and respect me the most,
and that more than anything, my relationship with God
is close and that he loves and respects me the most,
and that I'm living according to my highest values
and principles.
Life's about order, and I wanna have the right things
in the right order.
I'm all about wealth building, business building,
but it's not everything, but it comes down to the things
that matter most, in my opinion. That's faith, that's, but it's not everything, but it comes down to the things that matter most,
in my opinion, that's faith, that's family,
that's relationships, and that's legacy.
So beautiful.
And I'm sure that so many of my listeners
wanna learn from you about YouTube.
They wanna know about your courses,
how they can learn more.
So where do you wanna drive people to?
Thank you so much for having me.
Love the show.
Sean Cannell, Rhymes with YouTube channel,
wrote a book called YouTube Secrets.
The second edition is out now on either Amazon or Audible.
And then other than that, we do have a free class
that people can watch and you can link that up
in the show notes.
It's on the one strategy.
We talked about so many tactics,
but if you wanna look over my shoulder
and just see talking about the one strategy
for ranking videos as we described
and then three tips of how to implement that immediately,
check out that free class.
And then Think Media is the channel,
Think Media podcast, Think Media is the channel
and happy to connect with anybody on any of the platforms.
Amazing, thank you so much, Sean,
for joining us on Young and Profiting Podcast.
Okay, guys, this was the second installment Thanks so much Sean for joining us on Young and Profiting Podcast.
Okay guys, this was the second installment of my two-part conversation with YouTube guru
Sean Cannell.
And he had so many great insights about how to turn your YouTube dreams into a
reality. And here are just a few takeaways from our incredible chat. First,
there are two big ways to get discovered on YouTube.
The first is YouTube suggested,
the platform's recommendation engine.
That's the true engine of virality
and where about 75% of views come from.
But Sean recommends focusing on the second
less traveled path, YouTube search.
Create practical evergreen videos that are search friendly.
They may not go viral,
but they'll accumulate views over time
and slow and steady wins the race.
And if you can combine these ranked videos
to another income stream like affiliate marketing,
then you can really hit the YouTube sweet spot.
But to make the most out of YouTube search,
you need to get better at naming your videos.
Sean says he does some of his own personal A-B testing, coming up with at least five
options and then getting feedback on titles from the YouTube community tab.
Success on YouTube also comes from a better understanding of the platform's algorithm.
For example, longer videos, even if they're not fully watched, can boost the total amount
of watch time and boost your exposure overall.
Just remember as Sean says, that ultimately you're not optimizing for the algorithm,
you're optimizing for people.
Don't lose track of who your audience is and what they want to enjoy, even as you get
better at navigating the more technical aspects of a platform like YouTube.
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