Young and Profiting with Hala Taha - Tina Anderson: Change Your Gut, Change Your Life. How to Level Up Your Health in 2023 | E207
Episode Date: January 30, 2023After witnessing the corruption of the pharmaceutical industry first-hand, Tina Anderson decided to quit her cushy job as a lawyer and turn her attention to the field of natural medicine. Nearly a dec...ade later, Tina and her husband are revolutionizing how we manage our gut health with their probiotic company Just Thrive. In this episode, Tina breaks down the ecosystems in our gut, how to fix a leaky gut, and why you should be investing in spore-based probiotics. Tina Anderson is the CEO and co-founder of Just Thrive, a supplement company specializing in spore-based probiotics. Just Thrive offers a full line of scientifically-backed products designed to help people live healthy, strong lives. Prior to starting Just Thrive, Tina served as an in-house trial lawyer for a family pharmaceutical company. In this episode, Hala and Tina will discuss: - Tina’s journey into gut health - The microbiome, what you need to know - How our gut health is under attack every day - The science behind spore-based probiotics - Debunking probiotic myths - Leaky gut, and how to fix it for good - Probiotics vs prebiotics - Common foods that cause gut issues - Entering entrepreneurship later in life - And other topics… Tina Anderson is the CEO of Just Thrive®, a supplement company. Tina’s journey into the world of health had a unique start and some unusual turns. She began her career as a trial lawyer and in-house counsel for a family pharmaceutical company. She channeled her energy into learning all she could about disease prevention and good health maintenance. That led her to discover the importance of gut health and then other vitamins that were missing in everyday life. In addition to Just Thrive’s flagship Probiotic, Tina’s company now has a full line of scientifically-backed products designed to help people just like you feel healthy and strong. Resources Mentioned: Just Thrive’s Website: https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/YAP - USE CODE YAP FOR A 15-20% DISCOUNT. Tina’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tina-anderson-7bb956162/ Tina’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/JustThriveHlth Tina’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justthrivehealth/ Tina’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/justthrivehealth/ LinkedIn Secrets Masterclass, Have Job Security For Life: Use code ‘podcast’ for 40% off at yapmedia.io/course. More About Young and Profiting Download Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com Get Sponsorship Deals - youngandprofiting.com/sponsorships Leave a Review - ratethispodcast.com/yap Watch Videos - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting Follow Hala Taha LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ TikTok - tiktok.com/@yapwithhala Twitter - twitter.com/yapwithhala Learn more about YAP Media Agency Services - yapmedia.io/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This world we're living in is so disruptive to our gut health.
We talk about antibiotics.
You know, antibiotics literally wreak havoc on our gut.
We're eating meats that are loaded with antibiotics,
glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup,
which is sprayed all over our food supply.
I mean, we're living in this world
that is so offensive to our gut health.
Our gut is being attacked on a daily basis.
The microbiome is the totality
of all the microorganisms living on and in us.
And they are really dictating every aspect of our overall health.
80% of our immune system is actually located in our gut.
Our mood, our ability to handle stress, all of those things are dictated by our gut.
It's where you start with help.
What is up, young and profitors?
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Likewise, I'm excited for this conversation.
So, Young & Profiters, today we're joined by Tina Anderson.
She's the CEO of Just Thrive,
which is a supplement company responsible for creating
the first retail available,
spore probiotic and antioxidant
that arrives 100% alive to your intestines.
Tina began her career as a trial lawyer and
in-house counsel for a family pharmaceutical company, but when Tina saw the corruption in the
pharmaceutical industry, she decided to shift her career and turn toward the field of natural health.
In addition to just Thrive's flagship probiotic, Tina's company now has a full line of scientifically
backed products designed to help people just like you feel healthy and strong.
And in this episode, Tina and I will discuss why gut health is so important.
We'll learn about microbiome, prebiotics, probiotics, and will gain an understanding of how
improving our gut health can actually help both our physical and mental health and happiness
in 2020.
So Tina, I mentioned a little bit about how you transitioned into the
natural health field. You started out as an attorney working in civil litigation, you
worked crazy hours. Then you went into a family pharmaceutical business. And at first
you were happy because you were giving life saving medications to people. But after you
were in the industry for a while, you began to see some problems in the industry. So I'd
love to understand what were some of the problems that you saw
in the pharmaceutical industry?
Yeah, so like you said,
I mean, pharmaceuticals are life saving.
I mean, it's great when you need them,
it's wonderful and emergency type situations,
acute type of situations, but what we saw is that
it really wasn't a place for chronic conditions.
You know, when someone has something wrong with them,
it, we need to focus on the root cause. Like, why does someone have something wrong with them, we need to focus on the root cause.
Why does someone have something wrong with them? In the pharmaceutical industry, what we
started to see is that one of the examples that I talk about quite often is that our company
had won this huge bid for one of the largest hospital systems in the country. What we found
is that the pharmaceutical rep came in and said,
oh my gosh, guess what? Now my job is to go to every cardiologist in this hospital system
and lower the number that they prescribed this particular medication. So basically, they were
lessening the standards just so that they could sell more of the product. And so, and we saw this,
and it wasn't, it was kind of shocking, but then it kind of wasn't shocking because we saw it with some of our own relatives.
You know, we'd see a relative who was on one pharmaceutical and the next thing, you
know, that caused stomach issues and the next thing, you know, that caused a skin rash.
And so they, in a few months, they're on a dozen different medications and really not
getting any better.
And so, and it wasn't really the way we lived our own lives with our own three children.
We, my husband and I, both were really more naturally
minded anyway.
And so, we were like, we're not doing our life's work.
We just didn't feel like we were doing our life's work.
And so, we wanted to get into something
that was more in line with who we were.
Again, I always like to make a point.
There is a time and a place for pharmaceuticals.
There are life-saving medications,
but there is such an abuse of them and an over-prescribing of them. We've seen that time and time again.
And I think that it's really, I am so passionate about empowering people, taking control of
their health and not maybe going with the standard pharmaceutical line out there and the medical
system and kind of empowering yourself.
I think that's such a good point
because so much of our health can actually be controlled
through natural means, right?
And I know that about I think 70% of all of our diseases
and stuff, it comes from the gut.
So I'd love to understand what is gut health,
what is microbiome?
Like can you, I'm sure a lot of people listening
to this podcast, they've heard those words and they probably don't really understand what it means.
Yeah, so the microbiome is the totality of all the microorganisms living on and in us.
And they are really dictating every aspect of our overall health. And so we think of like,
there are a lot of bacteria, fungi, yeast, but mostly we talk about bacteria.
And the bacteria that is living in an anus is literally dictating like the overwhelming
majority of our health.
And there is hard to find any disease, any non-communicable disease that's not related
to an imbalance of our gut health.
So we're talking about our immune system.
Over 70% 80% of our immune system is actually located in our gut health. So we're talking about our immune system. Over, you know, 70% 80% of our immune
system is actually located in our gut. So it's our gut in our bacteria that's dictating if we're
one of those people that gets sick all the time or those one of those people that remain healthy. I mean,
everyone's going to get sick once in a while, but even the severity of an illness will be dictated
by the health of our microbiome or our gut health. For many years, we would think, oh, I have some stomach upset.
I have gas and bloating or diarrhea and constipation and you associate that with an imbalance
in your gut.
And absolutely, those are things that tell us that we've got some imbalance in our gut.
But we never really realize that skin health, we have rashes, we have acne, we have other issues going on with our skin.
That's actually caused by an imbalance in our gut.
Another big one is mood.
You know, our mood, our ability to handle stress.
All of those things are dictated by our gut.
We've never looked at mood health, anxiety, depression, those kinds of mental health issues
as being stemming from our gut, but yet they are, they all stem from our gut.
Then allergies, autoimmune issues,
those are all stemming from an imbalance in our gut.
Even heart disease, cancer, diabetes,
those all have a root cause in our gut health
and the bacteria that's living in an honest.
And the unfortunate thing is that we live in this world
that is so anti-bacterial.
We live in this world where they're telling us, you know, oh, the hand sanitizer
is a perfect example.
You know, we're killing the bacteria on us.
And it's so much bacteria living on us is actually beneficial, only less than 1% of bacteria
is actually harmful.
But we focus so much as a society on the bad bacteria.
So it's really important that we're focusing on as a society on the bad bacteria. So it's really important
that we're focusing on nurturing and taking care of our bacteria. And of course, we want
to avoid harmful bacteria, but so much of the bacteria living in an honest is actually
really beneficial and is dictating virtually every aspect of our overall health. It's where
you start with health.
So, when I was researching for this, I found out that there's about 200 species
that live in your gut.
And it's like a little world in there,
and it's an ecosystem, and using an algae of a garden
in terms of how it all works.
And so I'd love to hear that and really understand
like the variety of bacteria good and bad,
like what the role of good and bad bacteria is,
how you keep good bacterial healthy and bad bacteria at bay.
Like I'd love to just understand that whole ecosystem.
Yeah, so that's a great word to describe
because it is an ecosystem.
And I love to use the garden analogy
because if you kind of compare your gut to a garden.
And so inside your gut and your intestines,
you have beneficial bacteria,
so you've got the nice plants in the garden,
and then you have harmful bacteria,
which are the weeds in the garden.
And so on a daily basis, you need to be nurturing that garden.
You need to be getting rid of the weeds in the garden,
and then you have to help those plants
that have been stepped on and trampled on,
help them come back to life. And the way you do that is by you have a gardener that's taking care
of the gut. And so we always like to compare our probiotic strains that are in just thrive is
the gardener of the gut. So they're going in there, the gardener on a regular basis and helping
helping support those good plants that are there. And then also helping get rid of those weeds or the pathogenic bacteria in our gut.
On a daily basis, we have offenders to our gut health, and I could go over those at a moment,
but I love using that analogy.
And one of the problems that we've seen with probiotics on the market is, so about 10 or 12 years ago,
the human microbiome project was launched by the National Institutes of Health.
And that project told us more about our gut than we ever knew before.
And many of the probiotics that we find on the market are we're based on
that are old understanding of the microbiome. And that's what's so unique about the
spore-based probiotics that are found and just thrive is that in that garden analogy, the spores actually
have the ability to go in there and get to the garden alive, and they have the ability to go in
and get rid of the weeds and have the ability to go bring the plants back to life. Whereas the
majority of probiotics on the market, unfortunately, don't have that survivability. They don't even
make it to the intestines alive. They don't even make it to the garden alive.
And so they have the, they don't have the ability
to get rid of the weeds in the garden.
If they do get to that garden,
they just kind of come there and plant a plant in that garden
and then they leave.
So it's a very different approach
and a much more effective approach to your gut health.
So basically what you're saying is that traditional probiotics,
you take them and actually by the time it reaches your stomach,
it's not even effective anymore,
it's not alive to actually help do anything.
Exactly.
And again, I don't feel like companies were out there being ill-willed
or came into the products, it came into the market
with some mean-spirited, like I'm going to get them.
I mean, I do think that companies brought those products to the market with very good intentions.
It's just that now new science has come out and showed us that a probiotic, it's not important
that a probiotic is a live organism.
You know, a lot of times people will say, oh, my probiotic needs to be alive.
Yes, you're absolutely right.
Your probiotic needs to be alive, but it needs to be alive in your stomach,
in your intestines.
It doesn't need to be alive and the store shelf.
You know, a lot of times people are like,
oh, it probiotic needs to be a,
it's a good probiotic if it's in the refrigerator.
Well, that's actually one of the biggest myths
that we debunk all the time,
because think about it if a probiotic needs to be refrigerated,
it's because it cannot withstand
the room temperature of the store shelf. Well, think about your body.
Your body temperature is 98.6, much hotter than the store shelf.
And if it can't even survive the room temperature of the store shelf, how in the world would it
ever survive your body temperature of 98.6, much less the stomach acid.
And so the majority, overwhelming majority of probiotics on the market are dying before they ever hit the intestines. And we've studied this. You know, we are a very research
based company that was one of the first studies we ever did was a gastric survivability study,
took the leading selling probiotic with 50 billion CFUs and showed that 99.99 percent of the strains
died by the time they got to the intestines. In contrast to that, we took the spore-based probiotics, strains that are found and just
thrive, and actually saw that those strains survived 100%.
And not only did they survive 100% and get through that gastric barrier, they got into
the intestines, and then they stayed there for about 21 to 28 days where they start to make
more changes throughout the entire intestinal track.
And this is why we see such profound changes because we have strains that are actually
making a difference in that garden, in that ecosystem.
We're actually making that garden prettier and making it better and more diverse.
Yeah.
And while we're sticking on this garden analogy, gardens need fertilizer, right?
And things need food to grow.
So talk to us about the difference between
prebiotics and probiotics.
Great question.
So we basically were just talking about the probiotics.
So the probiotic is like garden
or going in there, getting rid of the weeds,
helping bring those plants back to life.
Well, so the prebiotic is basically the fertilizer
in the garden. So it's the food
that's going to feed the beneficial bacteria or the beneficial plants in the garden, the beautiful
plants in the garden. So think of the probiotic as the gardener and think of the prebiotic as the
fertilizer. Now, one of the problems with a lot of prebiotics on the market is that prebiotics
don't always know to distinguish.
You're feeding that garden.
They could also feed the weeds in the garden.
So here we are, this gut health supplement company, very research-based, and we did not
even launch a prebiotic for many years because we could not find prebiotic fibers that only
targeted the beneficial bacteria.
You don't want the fertilizer to go in there
and feed the weeds and have the weeds now
start overtaking the good plants.
So we have a prebiotic that's been studied
to show that it only feeds the beneficial bacteria
in the gut.
So it's not making the problem worse.
Of some, a lot of times people will start taking a prebiotic
and they're like, oh, I actually feel worse.
Well, that could be very well
because those prebiotic fibers are actually feeding
the harmful bacteria and we don't want that to happen.
So our prebiotic prouders are very, very,
we've researched this, we spent many years
making sure that we brought a prebiotic to market
that only feeds the beneficial bacteria.
So think if the probiotic is a gardener
and the prebiotic as the fertilizer.
So interesting how it all kind of works together. So I do want to dig deeper in terms of
why some bacteria is considered good and why some bacteria is considered bad. Like what are the differences there? What do they do to your body? Yeah, well some of are going to be supportive of
your immune system. Some of them are going to be supportive of your hormones.
You know, I think that's the other thing
that people are really starting to understand,
is that it's okay to have bad bacteria.
We're not trying to get rid of all of our bad bacteria.
It's this ecosystem that lives.
We just don't want the bad bacteria
to be overtaking the beneficial bacteria.
And it's really about a balance.
It's not about an obliteration of all of our bad bacteria. And it's really about a balance. It's not about an obliteration of all of our
bad bacteria. So a great example of that is Candida, for example. You know, people have some
issues with Candida yeast overgrowth. Candida is a normal part of our gut flora. It's meant to be
there. It's when there's an overgrowth of it that it becomes problematic. So we want to think about
not having any of that pathogenic bacteria overgrow in our gut.
It, like I said, it's so important, you know,
one of the things I always like to mention
is that serotonin, which is our happy hormone,
90% of our serotonin is produced in our gut.
Most people would think our serotonin is produced
in our brain.
It's actually not 90% is produced in our gut,
and that's why I talked earlier about how even our mood is dictated by the health of our gut.
There's a big connection there. So our bacteria, even weight management, a lot of people,
we've seen people so often start our product because maybe they had gas or bloating, and then they would say,
oh my gosh, you know, I started to notice I've lost a few pounds or I'm, you know, managing my weight a little bit better.
to notice I've lost a few pounds or I'm managing my weight a little bit better. Well yes, it's our gut bacteria that dictates whether you're one of those people that could
eat a whole plate of food and not really gain any weight or one of those people that has
a few bites and gains 10 pounds.
So it's really our gut bacteria that's dictating this.
So it's really important to understand that our gut bacteria is really dictating so much of our day-to-day life.
And unfortunately, we're living in this world
that's super offensive to our gut health.
And I don't want to paint a dismal picture,
but it's really important for people to understand
that this world we're living in
is so disruptive to our gut health.
We talk about antibiotics, you know,
antibiotics that are in our food supply,
antibiotics that we just take.
We know we've seen now doctors are not prescribing antibiotics as often as they were before, because now
we're starting to understand antibiotics literally wreak havoc on our gut. They are destroying
that good bacteria as well as the bad bacteria. Then there's antibiotics that are just in our food
supply. We know we're eating meats that are loaded with antibiotics.
Glyphosate, which is the active ingredient in Roundup,
which is sprayed all over our food supply.
A lot of our produce is just loaded with glyphosate.
Glyphosate actually targets only the beneficial bacteria.
Stress is a huge offender.
I mean, we're living in this world
that is so offensive to our gut health.
This is why we're seeing this rise in autoimmune issues,
this rise in allergies.
I mean, I see this with kids when I was a child
which was a long, long time ago,
I knew one classmate that had a peanut allergy
from kindergarten all the way through high school.
Now we know there's peanut free tables.
People are, you know, you go to a restaurant,
do you have any food allergies?
I mean, it is an epidemic in our society.
And this is literally because our gut is being attacked
on a daily basis, unfortunately.
And I'd love to understand how COVID really,
like since we're talking about our environment
and how that's impacted us,
how did COVID impact society's gut health in general?
Well, in my opinion, I feel that it was very detrimental
to our gut health because a stress is such a huge offender
to it.
And people don't really believe me when I say this,
but I can, and I'm sure we're talking to a lot of
entrepreneurs out there who are stressed out,
and it is really, really bad for our gut health.
And we know COVID caused so much stress
for so many people.
So it's really important that we know
that we have to manage our stress.
So I think that was really detrimental to our gut health.
I also feel that the hand sanitizer,
I know this is probably controversial,
but I just stick with soap and water.
Let's not do all these antibacterial soaps
and antibacterial hand sanitizers.
Of course, if you're in a situation
where there's no other option,
but oh, it's like driving me crazy,
watching everybody putting the antibacterial
because you're killing the microbes
that are on your hands and your skin.
And those microbes are very beneficial
and helping support our immune system.
So I do feel like COVID was really detrimental
to our gut health.
I mean, there were a lot of studies
that really believed COVID started in the gut.
We know that our, this is really important.
Our immune system will cease to function.
It will not function unless you have a healthy gut
unless your intestines are, your gut is healthy because it unless your intestines are gut, your gut is healthy
because it is your microbes that live in your gut
that send signals to your immune system to activate.
So you could have this super healthy immune system
or this immune system waiting there,
but it's not going to activate
until the gut microbiome will send signals to the immune system.
So really important to be focused in on your gut health.
But yeah, unfortunately, COVID was really detrimental in a lot of ways to a lot of people's lives.
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Yeah, I'd love to understand what are the symptoms of having a gut that is not in like tip-top shape?
Like what are the symptoms that people would feel and how can they tell if they need to take
probiotics and things like that? Yes, I would argue that every person that wakes up with intestines
should be on a sport-based probiotic. And I feel so passionately about that because of the fact
that we know that our gut is, like I said,
over and over dictating every aspect of our overall health.
And we know that it's being attacked on a pretty regular basis.
And we know that there's not really one non-communicable disease out there that's not associated with
a balance or imbalance of our gut health.
So we need to focus on our gut health.
But of course, people will be drawn to a probiotic when you have maybe some, you have gas or
bloating, diarrhea, constipation.
Your balls are not regular.
You have, those are the times where people will ordinarily go to a probiotic and say, oh,
I need to take it.
And yes, those are absolutely signs that you have some gut dysbiosis or imbalance going on.
But like I mentioned, skin rashes, acne, things like that. Nobody's ever thinking,
oh, yeah, you could do something topical for sure, but we do know that having a, having some type
of acne or skin rash is associated with having some imbalance going on in your gut. That's the real cause of it.
And again, mood issues, that's huge.
We know that there's a huge connection between the gut and the brain.
There's something called the vagus nerve that goes from the brainstem down to your intestines.
And the gut is sending signals back to the brain, and the brain is sending signals back to the gut.
So if you have some, if you're stressed out all the time, can't manage stress, you're sending sending signals back to the gut. So if you have some, if you're like stressed out all the time,
can't manage stress, you're sending those signals
down to your gut and the reverse is true.
The gut is, if it's got some imbalance going on
is sending signals to the brain.
And so that may cause you to have some anxiety depression.
Allergies, if you have allergies,
you have an autoimmune disease,
you definitely have imbalance going on in your gut
and you need to fix it.
So those are some of the big things out there
that will tell you whether or not you have
some type of gut imbalance going on.
And they even say 80%, they estimate the 80%
of the adult population has a leaky gut,
which we could go into later,
but a leaky gut doesn't even know it.
I mean, that's what they're estimating
because we actually did a study on leaky gut.
We took healthy college students.
55% of them had a leaky gut and didn't know it.
These are healthy young, have no symptoms, nothing like that,
and had a leaky gut and didn't even know it.
And so they're, like I said,
estimate that 80% of the adult population
has a leaky gut, and the leaky gut,
leakyness of that gut is so detrimental.
Yeah, you know, me, I did my research, or my next question literally was, the adult population has a leaky gut, and the leaky gut, leaky-ness of that gut is so detrimental.
Yeah, you know me.
I do my research, and my next question literally was, can you tell us what a leaky gut is?
And what we need to know about it.
So we have this intestinal cell wall that is protecting the inside of our intestines from
the rest of our body.
And so when that wall starts to seep and get holes in it,
LPS toxins, so toxins from our gut that are really not problematic,
start to seep into our bloodstream.
They seep through that intestinal wall because it's leaky.
When those toxins seep into the bloodstream,
our immune system starts this inflammatory response.
And so slowly you start having this inflammation, this inflammatory response on a regular basis.
And this is what leads to chronic, low grade inflammation.
That is so detrimental to our overall health.
And we know, like I said, these LPS toxins are not really problematic when they're gut.
It's really when they seep into the bloodstream that they start to cause and wreak havoc on our body. Even food particles, you start to have a
leaky gut and you're eating kale and you're eating broccoli and you're eating all these really healthy
foods, but if your gut is leaky, food particles could leak into there. And now we start having this
very inflammatory response. Kale and broccoli and all those things are not healthy in our circulatory system. So, it's really important that we seal up that leakyness of the gut.
And that's one of the studies that we had done on our product.
We actually did a double-blind human clinical trials on the strains used in our product
that showed that after 30 days, it caused a 42% reduction in those LPS toxins from
seeping into the bloodstream.
And so, it's been really exciting.
And we've seen, like I said, some really exciting results from customers.
So what are some of the lifestyle diet things that we do that actually cause something like
a leaky gut?
Well, eating processed foods, for sure, sugar, alcohol, I'm sorry to tell you, you know,
but those are both huge offenders to that lining of our, you know, our gut wall.
And eating a lot, there is, I'm a fan of intermittent fasting only because not just, I know a lot of people go to it for weight loss.
I think it's more because when you starve your bacteria, it also will cause diversity, increased diversity in our bacteria.
We want a diverse microbiome.
We want more types of bacteria.
And so having a time-restricted window of eating actually will allow the bacteria to proliferate
during your non-eating periods.
So really a great time to, you know, that really helps a lot.
But really eating processed foods, sugar, alcohol, and just, you know, that really helps a lot, but I'm really eating processed foods, sugar, alcohol,
and just, you know, not eating clean.
Those trying to eat clean is really important.
I mentioned those glyphosates that are found in all of our produce.
So if you're eating clean, really trying to eat a little bit more organic than you did
yesterday.
Just take baby steps.
You know, it's so hard to make this huge change, but if you just start to take baby
steps, maybe a little bit more organic and getting away from those glyphosates, it's really
helpful to help seal up that gut lining.
What is your opinion in terms of meat and eating meat and your gut microbiome?
I'm a huge fan of eating meat. I'm a huge fan of eating lots of diversity in your diet.
I'm actually, I get sometimes frustrated with all of
the different, you know, their vegan, the paleo, that all the different labels out there.
I just feel like we should be eating a diverse group of foods because the more, even I
suggest going to after the grocery stores and eating all different types of foods because
we want to get all these different bacteria from all different parts of the world that
we possibly can and all these different types of roots and tubers
so that we're creating more diversity in our gut.
We eat so few, such a little variety of foods
compared to our ancestors.
But yeah, I'm a fan of meat.
I think we should have mostly vegetables on our plate
and I don't, I'm not a, you know,
I don't think we should eat tons and tons of meat,
but I'm a fan of meat.
So something that I thought that was interesting in terms of benefits of improving your gut health And I'm not a, you know, I don't think we should eat tons and tons of meat, but I'm a fan of meat.
So something that I thought that was interesting
in terms of benefits of improving your gut health
is sleep, right?
We talk about sleep on this podcast a lot,
and I'd love to understand how improving your gut health
can actually improve your sleep.
You know, we do know that I was saying that serotonin
is produced in our gut, 90% of our serotonin is produced
and our gut, GABA is produced in our gut. 90% of our serotonin is produced in our gut. Gaba is produced in our gut.
Gaba is the call mean hormone,
which of course the more Gaba we have,
the more calm we are, the better we're gonna sleep.
Dopamine is produced in our gut.
I think that's what's so exciting about
what we found out with this human microbiome project
is that our gut is helping us.
I mean, and that's what I was saying.
I have one friend who was like,
oh, I've lost a few pounds. My other other friends like, oh, I'm sleeping better. Would this help me with
this? And I'm like, absolutely because think about your getting rid of toxins. And I always say,
you know, with pharmaceuticals, it's like side effects. People might take a pharmaceuticals,
side effects, or suicidal thoughts, and, you know, rashes, and all these different things where
ours are like, you may come to our product
because you have gas and bloating,
but side effects include better mood,
they can better sleep, better weight management,
and it's very exciting to know that when you start taking
care of your gut because of one problem or issue,
all these other benefits start coming from it,
and that's what's really exciting.
So, the mechanism is that the brain is getting these signals
from the gut.
I said serotonous produced, our gut,
gabs produced in our gut.
And when our gut is healthy,
they're sending those signals to the brain,
which is allowing us to be calmer and have better sleep.
What would you say are some of the biggest misconceptions
of gut health?
Yeah, I love talking about this because there are so many.
But one we kind of already touched on.
So we need to take a probiotic that's refrigerated because that's better.
That's just a myth. We know that we already debunked that.
So that's one myth out there.
The other one is that you know, you'll see probiotics that are like 50 billion CFUs
on the front label. They'll say 50 billion CFUs or now
You see them like 250 billion or 500 billion CFUs and really there is no science behind that none whatsoever
It's the typical like bigger is better. It's marketing our probiotic has only three billion CFUs only three billion and with our three billion CFUs, only three billion. And with our three billion CFUs,
we did a study called a gut model study.
It actually showed a 30% shift in that garden.
In our intestines, we saw a 30% favorable shift
in that garden with just after two and a half weeks.
And this was just with three billion CFUs.
I don't know of any probiotic on the market
that has a study of that magnitude that could show a 30% favorable shift, even the ones with 250 billion or 500 billion. These
companies are putting this back in because they're dying. Those probiotic strains are dying by
the time they get to the intestines. And we see this all the time. We've studied it over and over
independent third-party labs have tested the most popular probiotics on the market, and they die by the time they get to the intestines. And some people might say, well,
I actually have taken a probiotic, and I felt a little better. And yes, you could feel some symptomatic
relief from the dead bugs that get into you. But imagine what happens when you're making a true
change in that garden with probiotics that actually get there. So that's another myth out there.
I'm so excited to try my just thrive probiotics.
I have to say because like what you're saying,
I've tried probiotics and they have been like decently helpful.
So imagine if you have something that's just way more effective, basically.
So let's talk about the importance or non-importance.
I don't know the answer to customizing your probiotic plan.
So I had Naveen Jane on theizing your probiotic plans. So I had
Navin Jane on the show a long time ago. He's the CEO of Viome. And he does like the, you
send in like a stool sample. And then you get like results back. And then it tells you
like, what to take. And then you do it again. And it tells you what to take. But from my,
from what you're saying, you're just like the more variety, the better. So I'd love to
understand like your thoughts
around like whether or not that's useful
or like when that's useful or not
or what your thoughts are around that.
Love that.
So here's the greatest thing about the
spore-based probiotics that are in just thrive.
What they do when they get to the intestines
is they actually read the microbial environment.
These bacteria are very, very intelligent bacteria.
All of our bacteria is very intelligent,
as we know, because they're dictating so much of our health.
But these strains actually go in and read the bacteria.
So they will do something different in your gut
than they will do in my gut.
And they will do something different in,
you know, whoever's got someone who's got a lot of dysbiosis going on,
they're going to be working extra hard.
And they're going to be giving you
the beneficial bacteria that you need
and helping, because remember, they're going in
and they're helping get rid of the pathogenic bacteria
and they're helping bring your own bacteria back to life.
That is the best way you could create diversity
by bringing your own bacteria to life
because you have the most amount of bacterial organisms
in there. So the stool testing, I think, can be beneficial for people if it's done properly.
One of the issues I sometimes have with stool tests is that the analogy I like to make
is that if you're looking at the city of Chicago and you go in and test one section of the city of
Chicago and you find the Gold Coast neighborhood of Chicago, which is very affluent
and very nice and fancy. And you say, oh my gosh, this is such a fabulous neighborhood. But then
there are different areas and pockets of Chicago that you didn't really test. And that's one of the
limitations with stool testing. I think there's a lot of potential down the road with stool testing,
but I don't think it always gives you the complete picture. And there's nothing wrong with taking the spore base
as your foundational probiotic.
And then adding, you could always add in other types of probiotic strains
that you feel are beneficial.
But one of the keystone strains with bacteria is acrimansia.
And we have a study showing that acrimansia,
that these strains together with the prebiotic actually
increase the presence of acachromansia,
we don't have to take acromansia.
We're taking these spores to actually help increase the acromansia that's found in our own
body.
So that's what's so exciting about these strains is that they are literally reading everybody's
own environment and intestines and doing what they need to do to make it diverse.
That's so interesting.
So I'm like a huge skincare fanatic.
My podcast is called Young and Profiting.
I have to look young for a really long time.
So I'd love to understand.
And I know you sort of alluded to it,
but the skin benefits.
And my mom has psoriasis.
And I was so surprised to hear that like,
that's really, I wanted to try just thrive.
So maybe that will help her psoriasis. So I'd love to hear about that, like, that's really, I wanted to try just thrive. So maybe that will help her survive.
So, you know, so I'd love to hear about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's a whole microbiome living on our skin.
We call it the skin microbiome.
And so our gut microbiome will help send signals
to the skin microbiome.
And so there's a huge connection with that.
So absolutely, people with skin issues,
you know, will definitely, they have a gut
imbalance. I mean, it's plain and simple. Surrises is an autoimmune issue. That's a gut imbalance.
And there is that huge connection. I mean, my daughters would break out in high school. And
they, you know, we had just started the company. And I'm like, come on, you need to try this. And
you know, how teenagers are they never want to do it. But then I'm like, just try. They started
taking it. And they started seeing a complexion clear up, and they're like, oh my gosh,
and now there are biggest fans of the product.
So it's so funny, you start to see physical notices
or improvements on your body and your skin,
because there is this whole skin microbiome
that's dictating the health or skin
that's being dictated by the gut microbiome.
I love it.
Is there any other benefits that we haven't covered in terms of gut health and what we can
expect if we take something like a just-thrive probiotic?
Yeah, so I think the biggest thing is that I want to bring up is the mood issue, the
mood health.
I really cannot overstate that enough that we also as entrepreneurs have to manage our
stress. Our stress is so detrimental
to our gut health and so detrimental to our overall health. And listen, I'm an entrepreneur. I did it
to myself. I mean, I burnt myself out. I mean, I've three kids. They're all playing college
sport, high school and then college sports. And I'm running this business and I'm telling you nothing
change.
You could take as many probiotics, you could take as many, whatever you have got to focus
on your lifestyle and not be stressed out and do meditation, anything walking in nature,
different things that just calm you down.
I cannot emphasize that enough because it's really important that we need to focus on
living a calmer life to help our gut microbiome.
I know you're really big into meditation. So what is your meditation practice? Can you share that
with us? Yeah, I used to do the, oh my gosh, no, I'm forgetting the name of it, the
Transadental, the TM meditation. But now I just kind of sit, I wake up in the morning and I just
kind of sit quietly and just literally say the same
word over and over again and just kind of, I do that.
I also sometimes switch off with just deep breathing.
I do, I use this heart math machine or heart math device that I just do some deep breathing
that has always been really helpful to me.
I know a lot of people have success with the Wim Hof breathing, but you know, I really,
it is such a personal thing, whatever works for you to calm you down.
Yeah, and we've had Wim Hof on the show,
we've had Dave Asprey on the show,
all these guys that are so successful,
they all swear by improving your gut health.
Everyone's sort of singing this tune now, it is the future.
So Tina, you're very impressive.
Your company is really blowing up.
I feel like I hear about it everywhere.
Even before you were on the show, I knew about it.
Thank you.
I have a philosophy that when you start a company
with good intentions, that it usually always works out, right?
And you literally left what sounded like a pretty cushy job.
I mean, you were a lawyer to start and take on this risk.
And I was thinking about it.
I was like, wow, Tina has this whole gut health business
and she really followed her gut to do it.
And it worked out.
I mean, you guys are doing really well
as like from what I can tell,
everything was looking like really well
and like you guys are getting a lot of support.
So I'd love to hear about just like the entrepreneurial side
of you for a little bit before we close.
Understanding how you took that risk,
maybe some of the highlights of that journey,
and I've just left to hear from you about that.
Yeah, it was crazy.
So my husband and I started it together,
and we both let pretty much left our roles
in this very comfortable, like you said, position
and a very thriving company to start this. We put our life savings into it. And at the time,
we have, well, we still have three kids, but they were in middle school and high school at the time,
really, you know, college was approaching. And we just did it. We just jumped in. It was,
we read a lot of Wayne Dyer and Norman Vincent Peale and Napoleon Hill.
I mean, I've always been like that.
I grew up with a father that was super.
Like, your mindset is everything.
And I was so blessed to have that in my life.
And I started reading a lot of those books.
And I'm like, we are not doing our life's work.
I mean, we are not doing something that's feeding our soul.
And it wasn't the way we lived our lives.
I was always like, let the kids have a fever. Don't give a motor in right away.
The fever is our body's mechanism to help fight off infection.
I mean, I would never let it get dangerously hot,
but we're always the society of just like fixing,
you know, putting a band-aid on it
and instead of getting to the root cause.
And so we decided like we wanted to do this.
My husband's naturopath doctor,
they had talked for years about
doing getting into the natural health space with a product, but nothing seemed to have been
worth it for us until we found these strains. We started diving into the microbiome and the importance
of it. I'm a huge believer in manifesting and just putting that right energy out there. And one
day I have goosebumps as I tell this story right now.
He called us into his office and said,
you will not believe this,
but we have the opportunity to purchase
the exclusive rights of these incredible probiotic strains
out of London University.
This is the real deal.
He's like, I have researched the microbiome more than probably,
there's probably five people in this whole country
that know more about the microbiome than I do.
And this is the real deal.
So we started doing the research on it.
And we did it.
We actually were going to,
we had a pre-plan trip to Italy
and we were on the island of Capri with our three kids
and ran into Dr. Oz.
And I'm like, if that's not a sign,
I don't know what it is.
So we went up to him and we started talking to him
and he was so gracious.
And he's like, that's awesome, good for you. And we had decided when we went up to him and we started talking to him and he was so gracious and he's like,
that's awesome, great, good for you.
And we had decided when we came back to from this trip,
we were going to make a decision whether or not
we went into the business.
And so we did.
And so it's been the best thing we've ever done.
The most gratifying career journey I've ever been on.
It's been, I feel you asked about COVID.
I felt like so grateful that my parents were on our products,
my in-laws were on our
products, all my kids and my sisters and my husband's family that we're all on the product
and really supporting, doing everything we could to support our immune system during that
time as well. So there's just so many great benefits that come out of it and I would encourage
anybody to follow your passion and think about serving others.
I know that's a recurrent theme anyway,
all entrepreneurs, but it's so true.
We are focusing on impacting lives,
not about revenue numbers,
we are focusing on impacting lives.
And that is our mission, is to get out there
and help people take control of their health.
And I love the fact that you guys are a husband and wife,
do I didn't quite realize that? I know you're more of like the face of the company right?
Yep. I had Grant Cardone and Elena Cardone on recently. I've had Alex and Layla Hermosion and so many big powerful couples coming on the scene
And I'd love to understand like what it's like working with your husband in business because that's pretty unusual
Yeah, I love it. We've been married almost just about this year will be 30 years and like what it's like working with your husband in business because that's pretty unusual.
Yeah, I love it.
We've been married just about,
this year will be 30 years and we make it work.
Like you said, I'm more the face of the company.
He was way more involved in the pharmaceutical company
back in its inception.
So by the time we started this, I was more,
I had more maybe of the energy to be the face of the company,
but we are such a great balance.
He's more, I'm a little bit more high- strung and he's a little bit calmer about things.
And so we have a great balance.
And sometimes, you know, early on, we had to like create some boundaries where he'd come
home for lunch.
And I'd be like, oh, I gotta tell you about this meeting I had.
And he'd be like, hold on.
I just want to have some lunch, you know.
And then, you know, and then at night, when he would be all riled up,
I'm like, no, I'm done.
I need to check out.
So, you know, there were things like that that happened, but for the most part, we've
been so blessed with a great working relationship.
And I know it's not easy for a lot of couples, but we've had, it's been really great.
He's a wonderful human being, so that helps too.
Yeah, we do a fun thing at the end of the year where I analyze all my episodes and the
theme of the year was relationships.
And one of the big things that people were talking about is not separating business and
personal, that it's one thing.
And so I think this totally aligns to it.
So very interesting.
So speaking of helping people, you also dabble in philanthropy.
Can you tell us about Just Thrive's partnership with vitamin angels?
Yes. So vitamin angels is a fantastic organization that actually helps people, mothers and children
in under-nourished countries and gives them life-saving vitamins, just help them.
You know, so these pregnant moms are not delivering their children without these life-saving type of
vitamins. So we started that from the beginning. When we started years ago, that was always part of our mission
was to give back.
People always say that, you know, if you give when you can't,
you're going to really give more when you can.
And so it's just about a habit.
And so it's really been a part, a big part of who we are
with vitamin angels as well as other smaller type of,
I try to give to everybody I
can, especially our team. I love to help out our team, you know, so vitamin
angels is a great organization. Happy to be a part of them.
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So Tina, we close out the interview
with a couple of questions that we ask all of our guests
and then like I said, at the end of the year.
So this will be for 2023.
We do fun things with it.
So my first question is,
what is one actionable thing
that our young
and profitors can do today to become more profitable tomorrow? I really feel strongly about this,
that we need to just focus on your health or don't let your, don't compromise your health
as you're building your dreams because success is measured in so many different ways. And
financial worst, as entrepreneurs were like money like, you know, revenue revenue,
revenue profit, profit, profit,
but we have to focus on our health
because our health will help dictate all of that.
If you lose your health,
you lose your ability to make money,
you lose your ability to go in every day.
So I really would encourage people to just stay calm
and take care of your health as you're building your dream
because it will be so much more fun.
Yeah, I mean, nothing's a bigger wake up call than like
being sick or doing it and then not being able to do
the normal things that you do in life.
So I totally agree, health is so important to prioritize.
And what is your secret to profiting in life?
And profiting doesn't necessarily mean making money.
It could be living mental health,
it could be anything, just profiting in life in general.
I think one of the things is ego,
like taking managing your ego,
especially as you're building a business.
I think that when I look back
and I think about what people ask all the time,
you know, how did you get to where you are?
And I don't know, sometimes I'm like,
I think it's just luck.
I think it's being, you know,
or having an opportunity come to me
and being ready and
being prepared for it.
But a lot of it, as we started growing, we were older entrepreneurs.
You know, we weren't in our 20s or 30s.
We were in our late 40s when we started.
And so I was old enough and wise enough to know, to not let my ego get in the way.
And we put a lot of the money that we made back into the business, the majority of the
money back into the business.
And you know, there were times where people were like,
oh, you're not in Whole Foods yet,
why aren't you in Whole Foods?
Well, we could have been in Whole Foods,
but the margins weren't in our favor.
And so I was not about to put ourselves out of business
in order to tell my friends that I'm in Whole Foods.
And I think there's just an ego that we have to manage.
Ego could be good too,
but I think we have to manage our ego and take care of your team
and take care of your employees.
As you grow your team, that is super important.
And I think your ego has to be managed when you're growing a team because the people on
our team have built our dream.
I mean, they have built our dream.
And it's, we have two, but they have as well.
And so I don't think of myself as being more important than them
or better or getting a better spot or anything like that. I just think we have to manage our ego.
And that allows us to really profit in life as well as in business.
Yeah. I want to end on an inspirational note. And you just inspired me to ask this question.
I wasn't planning on it. But you just mentioned that you started your entrepreneurial journey
in your late 40s.
And one of my missions in life is to help people understand that it's never too late to start
something new or start over. Like I totally transitioned my career. And when I started my podcast,
people told me I was too old. And I'm not old. And they don't have too old to start a podcast.
And then look at me now. One of the biggest female podcasters in the world,
and thank God I didn't listen to them.
So I'd love to understand from you,
and just to your advice for people who,
because I have actually listeners of all ages,
and I think there's plenty of people
in their 40s and 50s and 60s listening right now,
who listen to young and profiting,
because they do wanna make changes in their life.
Talk to them about the importance of not thinking
or too old to change your career,
start something new, learn a new skill, and so on.
Oh, no, I mean, there's so many chapters in our lives.
And now that you're gonna be taking care of your health,
and we've got lots of longevity ahead of us.
And we are living longer,
and we're going to be taking care of ourselves.
I mean, my parents are probably my inspiration,
because they started their business at 50,
over, they were 50 something years old.
And my dad is 80, he's about to turn 81 next week.
And he's like, okay, Tina, I'm looking at this business.
What do you think about if I buy this?
I mean, it's like he's 80 and he wants to buy another business.
You know, it's, it's never too late to start.
I mean, my gosh, think about how you could serve the world
by whatever it is that you want to do
and how you could change your own life. and there's so many years ahead of you and I would definitely
never look at you know your age is just a number it's like what you feel upstairs and what you feel on a regular basis and what what you want to do to change the world and I would definitely I
I'm so happy we started this I can't obviously I'm. It just the changes that we've made in our own health journey
and my kids and my parents.
And I think whatever that journey that you're on,
it doesn't have to be health to change the world, obviously.
You're changing the world every day
by sharing all of these great secrets and tips with people.
So just focus on changing the world
and doing something and serving the world around you
and it's never too late to do that. And I can feel like the energy and doing something and serving the world around you. And it's never too late to do that.
And I can feel like the energy and the happiness and the enthusiasm.
When you're working on something that you're really passionate about,
and it's new and it's fresh and it's exciting and there's innovation and changes.
You got to keep it's like so much fun.
It makes life more fun.
It really does.
And I think I was just talking about this with friends of ours.
It also created this whole new community in my life.
I kind of, you know, like here I am, mother of three, we're super involved in my family,
my husband's family, and our church community, we're involved in our neighborhood.
We've got all these friends, and I'm like, I don't need any more friends at this point
in my life, you know, but then I meet all these entrepreneurs who are just the coolest,
greatest people and always about sharing, and everybody wants to help each other out.
It's really the most unique career environment you've ever seen.
So I have now met some of my closest friends being an entrepreneur and learned so much.
I mean, you never want to stop learning and there's no better way to learn than becoming
an entrepreneur.
I learned so much on a regular basis and it's been really, it's been really awesome.
I love it, Tina, your story is so inspiring.
Thank you so much for teaching us about microbiome,
probiotics, pre-biotics, gut health.
We covered it all and you also inspired us in the process.
So thank you so much.
Where can our listeners learn more about you
and everything that you do?
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been so much fun chatting with you.
The best place to find us is at justthrivehealth.com.
I think we have a coupon code for your listeners
of 15% off if they use YAP, YAP.
There are also, we have a health coach on our team,
or not a health coach, a product coach on our team,
that if people have any questions about anything,
we are all about helping people out.
So if you want to, anyone ever wants to call
our 100 number, but the best places just thrive health.com. Perfect. And we'll stick all that
information in the show notes. And I'll repeat it again in the outro so you guys can get that promo code.
Thank you so much, Tina. It was such a pleasure to have you on. Thank you, Hala. So great chatting with you.
Well, that's a wrap. Yeah, fam and I loved Tina stories. One of my top messages in life that I always preach Is that you are never too old to take on your dreams
And I think my favorite part about this conversation aside from the gut health learning is that Tina started this amazingly
Successful company just thrive in her late 40s. And I love the fact that she started it with her
husband. How cool is that? Tina could have just stayed working as a lawyer, but
she felt a more meaningful calling. She wanted a change. She totally switched
gears. She learned the ins and outs of a brand new industry. She started from
zero and went for it. Talk about trusting
your gut. And speaking of gut, just thrive is a company that I really stand by and I've been
taking these supplements for a few weeks and I totally notice a difference. If you guys want
to check out their products, go to justthrivehealth.com and use code YAP for a 15% off discount. Again,
that's just thrive health.com and Tina was kind enough to give us a promo
code. You can use code YAP for 15% off. I personally love their sport based probiotics.
And thanks so much for tuning in today's Young and Profiting episode with just thrive founder
Tina Anderson. If you enjoyed this episode, drop us a five star review and share it with your
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Big thanks to my amazing production team, as always.
My people at Yat Media, you guys are so talented.
I appreciate you so much.
This is your host, Halita, signing off.
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