Your Mom's House with Christina P. and Tom Segura - 485-Big Daddy Kane-Your Mom's House with Christina P and Tom Segura

Episode Date: February 6, 2019

Who cares what clips or drops we play during this episode. None of it matters because legendary hip hop MC, Big Daddy Kane is in the studio.  We get to ask everything we've always wanted to ask about... coming up in the rap game, writing hit songs and did something actually happen with Madonna?!? This is an epic episode that will forever live in Tommy's heart. From our jeans to yours, let out your best, SUP KANE.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 That is a tycoon sent that in. Thanks for sending in the instrumentals man. I'm excited for it. Some big news Gene. So here's some new shows that I have. I have added some shows for people that don't know the Chicago shows that have been sold out for a minute. The ones in April.
Starting point is 00:00:40 So we added a Chicago show June 2nd at the Chicago Theater. Those are on sale right now. You can get those at tomscura.com slash tour. Here's what's going up this week, new. We added a second show in Richmond, Virginia June 13th. We added a second show in Hanover, Maryland June 14th. Tulsa, Oklahoma. People were hitting me up while that show was canceled.
Starting point is 00:01:11 It was really that I just had to switch venues. I don't know something promoter based or whatever. It's the same day that it was. It's June 27th. But if you had tickets, they refunded the tickets and now the show is available. So that's June 27th. June 30th. We added a second show in Kansas City, Missouri.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Very excited about that. And then new show announcements Foxwoods in Connecticut August 9th and Hampton Beach, New Hampshire August 10th. A whole bunch of shows, more than 25 plus cities are coming in a few weeks. They will first go out on the mailing list. If you haven't signed up tomscura.com, you click on the tour page. You get a prompt, throw in your email. You will have access to the tickets before social media, before the general public.
Starting point is 00:02:05 That's going to be all the shows that I've been asked about. Minneapolis, New York, LA, Austin, on and on and on. All the Canadian dates will be on that. That's coming in a few weeks. And yeah, just go to tomscura.com slash tour. Gene. First of all, I would like to thank all the Denver mommies who came out this weekend. So strong.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It was big time. Overwhelming. It was amazing. Thank you guys so much. And the Rider-Dite tour moves right along. First of all, get your Rider-Dite t-shirts. They did not bring them with me, but their shirts at merchmethod.com slash tomscura. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 February 23rd, West Silom Springs, Oklahoma at the Cherokee Casino, February 28th through March 2nd, Madison, Wisconsin, at the Comedy Club on State, April 4th through 6th, Mini Appletits, Minnesota at the Acme Comedy Club, May 10th and 11th, Tempe at the Arizona Tempe Improv, May 31st through June 1st, Sperm Bank, Flippers, Comedy Club, June 20th through 22nd, Madison, I'm Madison, Washington Dick-Com, why did I even say that? Washington Dick-Com at the Dick-Com Improv, tickets Christina P. online. Thank you. I should mention, because people have asked me about next week, there's basically single
Starting point is 00:03:26 seats for those late shows. So that's in Pittsburgh, Sinssey, Cleveland, D.C., there might be some single seats, there's not group seating, so. So if you're alone or go to those shows. Yeah, you can go to those shows for sure. If you're alone, you can meet some cool people. And then a lot of people seem to miss that the late shows in Madison and Milwaukee and Nashville in April, you can still get some tickets to those.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They'll go, but you can get them now. And then I've been asked a lot about Florida, I am coming to Florida, I have the Tampa Theater on March, I think it's 7th and 8th. And then people keep asking about South Florida. All I have right now is the Hardcock, the Hard Rock. The Hardcock, come see now. Yeah, the Seaman Hall, Cardcock, come see now, that's March 9th, but that's the theater there at the.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's a new thing. They rebuilt it. They rebuilt the whole thing, they spent a fortune doing it, but I'm excited to go, I'm excited to go. I love that place. Remember they used to have that ridiculous Italian restaurant, and they play like hardcore techno music, and it was so loud in there, you could barely eat because of the anxiety of the music, and they turned the lights down, you couldn't see your fucking plate, disco
Starting point is 00:04:46 ball came out. But I'm excited to be back and see the new, it's like, you know. I hope they tore down that fucking restaurant. I think now the hotel is supposed to be in the shape of a guitar. Oh, God. Yeah. Like the rooms are up in a guitar. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Yeah. It's extreme fun. That place is a machine, man. I know. It's just like $50 minimum blackjack table. Cheese. It's just like, yeah. Okichobi.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Is that Okichobi Road? No, it's actually, well, it might be on off Okichobi Road, but it's technically, I guess, Hollywood, Florida. It's close to Fart Lauderdale, but it's, you know, it's that area. I want to also point out that our good friend, wonderful comedian who'll be with me this weekend as I go to Long Beach, Santinez, and Reno, Josh Potter will be on the shows with me. And
Starting point is 00:05:48 Josh will be opening those shows, you'll notice that I didn't promote those when I was promoting my shows. They're all sold out. But I will be at the shows, Josh is opening every show. He is going to be doing his own show at the Improv Lab March 22nd. Doors are at 9.30. You can get tickets now. Listen, there's a reason I brought this guy to all these cities.
Starting point is 00:06:18 So go to, I guess you probably his Twitter page, right? Is it J underscore Potter? Is that right? Yep. At J underscore Potter on Twitter. Get tickets. It's going to be Friday, March 22nd, 9.30 show. Very excited for you guys.
Starting point is 00:06:41 The Improv Lab. The Improv Lab. Yeah. And he'll be there. And it's a great show. Believe me. It's a really great show. So get tickets to that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 All right. Gina, are you ready to start the show? I'm really ready. Let's do it, man. Let's have some fun here. Let's get started. This lady. I'm coming back.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm coming back. Why you got your pussy out? Why you got it out? Ma'am. Ma'am! This shit is big time. Who is Randy? Don't bring anyone loving to this.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Welcome to your mom's house, with Tom Segura and Christina Pajitzin. Christina Pajitzin. Welcome to your mom's house. Yeah, alright. You don't see that many pussies out. You don't. I've seen a lot of dicks out. It's true.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I've seen a couple pussies. But mostly you see dicks out, yeah. Yeah, it's not really a common choice for women. It's very uncommon. Why you got your pussy out? Yeah. For those of you just listening to the show, you should be actually watching us on YouTube and subscribing to our channel.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yes, and for people that used to just subscribe and they're wondering where the clips are, we put it on its own feed. So you can subscribe to your mom's house clips, is it? Yeah? Yeah. YouTube.com slash YMH clips. Slash YMH clips. And that's if you just want to see highlights and if you want to get the show, obviously
Starting point is 00:08:57 it's still your mom's house podcast. Promcast. Is that right? For those of you just listening, that woman was driving past another lady who was just sitting in a chair on the side of the road wearing nothing from the waist down and she did in fact have her pussy out. She did, yeah. Why you got your pussy out?
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah. Yeah. It's an interesting to... Oh, she's got the three striped Adidas jacket though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she does. Yeah. You know, you know how sometimes you see stuff on the street and it sticks with you for years
Starting point is 00:09:31 and years? Yeah. Remember that time we were looking at Lofts in downtown L.A.? Yeah. And we looked down the alleyway. Yeah. And there was a homeless man just leaning up against the wall shitting. Taking a shit.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah, taking a shit. Yeah. But you think about how... They were just driving around. Yeah. Just glassing. Yeah. And we saw it.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah. But you think about how rare and special it was that we both looked at the same time and we both got to see the actual pooping. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Nobody seemed that bothered by it. Nobody did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, he wasn't hidden really. No. It was daylight. Yeah. It's middle of the day. And you can rent that loft right by this guy taking his shit. Downtown L.A. is wild. I mean, there's parts of it now, like that South area, which is basically the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:10:20 by the Staples Center, which is like really blown up, but there's still some pretty crazy shit downtown L.A. Yeah. Well, there's the... Is the Igloo Village still down there where all the homeless people live? Yeah. There's a real problem in downtown L.A., you know, in the toy district. Oh, that's nasty to tell, too.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Fuck, man. It's so expensive, too. Yeah. You pay a fortune to live amongst all that garbage. Not mean to live there. Fuck all that, man. It's... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Anyways, I'm so... I missed you. I was gone. I was in Momver. Yeah. But I got to... I forgot how cool humanity was. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Really? Yeah. Like, I was sitting waiting to board my flight and there was a gentleman reading a newspaper next to me and then about every two minutes, he would just go, and I'm like, he's not spitting. Like, he's just horking. Yeah. And now, every time I look at him, like, are you for real? Like, we're going to do this again in two minutes, and then again, I'm like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:11:21 This something beat me. What are you doing? It's gross. It's so gross. And then another gentleman on my flight was reading, and then he had a pair of... Eyeglasses, and then on top of the glasses, another pair of glasses in public. Double glass. The double bird.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah. What is that about? Have you ever seen that one? I've seen the double glasses before. Yeah. What's that about? I think it's just cheap. I think they're being cheap.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I think that guy knows that if he wears the two glasses together, it works out to be the prescription he needs. So he's just like, I'll just wear the two that I got instead of going and getting the proper glasses. Right. I mean, I've never bought those bifocals at the right aid. Yeah. I've been buying right aid vision glasses, reading glasses.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. Probably not good. Yeah. Probably not. I could probably hurt your eyes more than help, right? I don't know. I just think that some people are always looking for the way around. But that too, you just go to the ophthalmologist and get the test and just fucking get the
Starting point is 00:12:25 glasses you need. Right. You can spend $100 to get your vision. But he's like, but I got these for $4. Okay. It's only your eyes. And you only look crazier than shit. Four.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Yeah. Two on two on two. Two on two. It just astounds me how people behave in public. You were telling me about, it reminded me so much of that time we were at the movies. Yeah. And there's a guy sitting right behind me and for the duration of a 90 minute film, he had a toothpick in his mouth and he would go, oh my God, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:13:00 On a four second cycle. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to be like, you fucking piece of shit. Of course. And he was an older guy and I just had just visions. Wait a minute of murder and assault. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But it's always older guys. Yeah, he was older. And so are the other two people I'm referring to. They don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. They're not trying to get laid. Yeah. And that's why they don't care.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Freedom. Liberté. Yep. Like Terry. You fucking hate when you're sitting on the airplane and then the guy next to you has shaky leg. Yeah. I grabbed someone's leg.
Starting point is 00:13:36 He's shut up. Yeah. I've dreamt of doing that. I grabbed someone's leg. I've dreamt. And it was a stranger. Yeah. It was the seat behind me and he was doing his tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And then he started to pick it up. He was clearly running through a song in his head and I just reached around and grabbed. No. Shut up. I swear to God. What did he do? He goes, I'm sorry. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I've dreamed of that. Like get, get a fucking hold of yourself, man. Yeah. And I understand it's hard to sit still on the flight, but you're not a toddler. You're a fucking adult. Oh yeah. No, this was like a 35-year-old man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Hold it together, asshole. Have a drink. Chill out like everybody else. I mean, the only thing worse than a foot tap and leg shaker. Yeah. Fucking Whistler. I hate public Whistlers. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I see red. I read. People who got my second album, White Girls with Cornrows, can hear an incident that we captured and we left on there where I guess the guy was whistle cheering. I thought he was just whistling, so he's going like, and I go, who the fuck is whistling right now? Oh my God. And I kind of lose my shit.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, good for you. Stop fucking whistling. Turns out that the guy was Mexican and he was also a trained fighter. Oh no. So he reached out to me like a long time later. He was like, that's me. That's just how like we, you know, clapped basically. Oh, it's his cultural whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Yeah. And I was like, yeah, yeah. Because I remember I was like threatening to kill him and stuff. And then he was like, yeah, I'm like a black belt and all this. And I was like, awesome. Definitely would have killed me. I thought you were going to say the other thing where they're like, the guy was whistling and I looked and he was in a wheelchair and he had to blow into a straw to move and then
Starting point is 00:15:29 he felt like an ounce. That was his way of cheering. He's like, yeah. Good one. Right. Yeah. Right. That's what I thought we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:15:41 No. Yeah. I hate everybody. It just reaffirmed my fucking hatred. Fucking gross. And then I hate whistlers. I hate it. I just had one.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I was just at the gyms and then there's a guy changing clothes and as he's in there, he's like, it's like, do you really think that this, that everyone here right now is enjoying because you're either oblivious or you're doing it too upset. Don't give me this shit. We're like, well, that's how I enjoy my day. Fuck you, man. I like Jiminy Cricket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 He's whistling. No one's trying to hear you sing and whistle. No. But it is singing. It's essentially like, would you be comfortable singing? How about this? If you're John Legend, you go ahead and sing for all of us because that's a really nice voice.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Right. The rest of you get fucked. Yeah, go fuck your mom. No one's trying to hear you fucking sing, man. I agree. It's very rude. It's very, it's what birds do to mark their territory. It's a totally aggressive, passive aggressive move.
Starting point is 00:16:33 It is bad. It is, it is claiming the space. It is dominating and making it mine. I really don't appreciate that. And then also, because when I go to cold climates, there's always, always the overweight guy wearing a T-shirt and shorts and it's like snowing. And it's his badge of honor that he's like a fat guy in T-shirt and shorts. And then he has to bust my chops for having the audacity to wear a winter coat.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Oh, of course. All the time. Is it really that cold? I got one of those. I'm like, well, yeah. It is for me. I'm sorry. That guy always wants to shame you.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He's like, well, you know, it's, is it really winter coat weather? There's that guy. And then there's also the guy that makes me crazy who, for some reason, always questions what you're eating somewhere. Oh, man. So there's a guy who's like soup, you know, or he's like salad and you're like, yeah. Might as well be a bowl of dicks, a big old homo. Why are you worried about what I'm eating?
Starting point is 00:17:40 You know, you're going to, you're going to check in salad. And then they're like, that's weird. Like, how's it weird? I don't know, man. But it's like, it doesn't affect you. Just like your coat. Why? What do you care? And I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:54 So you're saying I should, I should be cold and suck it up so that you can be proud of me. Yeah. And you're like, he's suffering. Let you sell. I don't want to fucking suffer. No, I know. And it usually is like a 300 pound guy. Oh, always.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And it's, it's cold as shit out. And he's got the shorts on. You're never cold. No, you're never cold. You've got a natural. Yeah. You're kind of built like a walrus. So you never get cold, man.
Starting point is 00:18:18 God damn it. And it's always in the coldest places. They shame you for it. It's like a, is it a competition in cold climates time? Absolutely. It is. It must be surely. It's a competition for how cold it gets.
Starting point is 00:18:31 It's a competition for like how little of a layer you need. It becomes a thing. Yeah. Like when you grew up in Ohio. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. And then what happens is like, then, you know, even girls would do it too.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I would go on a date with a girl from Ohio and I'm in DC. And then, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm cold. Like you're cold. Like, well, yeah. Why are you cold? I don't know. Cause my body's reacting to it being cold. And then she's like, this isn't cold.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's always like, like, you don't know cold. Yeah. Okay. All right. I guess I'm a big old sissy. You call this rain? Yeah. Well, yeah, it's falling out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I know. It's wet. This isn't really rain. Yeah. Okay. It's so funny. People are so weird about that. The coldest I've ever been, though, was in Anchorage, Alaska.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah. You ever done Anchorage yet? I have never done Anchorage. I did it in January, like years ago. That sounds pretty bad. It was so terrible. And the sun never doesn't come out till later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:31 So it was like a Sunday morning and people were going to church. It was, you know, 10 in the morning in pitch blackout. It was so crazy. I've had some, I've been in Winnipeg in February. Yeah. That's really cold. That's terrible. Calgary, too.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Minneapolis. Oh, yeah. Like fucking freezing. Yeah. Well, you just wore like a, like a thin thing on, right? You don't wear a jacket. No, I was like, I'm a guy. Tough.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I don't give a fuck if it started below zero. It's so weird. I'm not a chick. Yeah. No, no, I am. Yeah. I definitely. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I definitely will bundle up in cold weather. I'll sit by a heater. I don't give a shit about any of that. Yeah, don't shame me for that. No, no, no, I am, bro. Now I will say, you know, you're pretty mentally ill when it comes to. To warmth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Well, yes. Yes. Yeah. But I grew up in LA and it's generally pretty warm here. Yeah. I like it. I do like the thermostat to be 76 or above in the room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I mean, it's, you know, feels that feels good. It's why people divorce. That's not. Yeah. No, it's not. You make it pretty uncomfortable because I noticed when I left town, I had it at 77. And then when I came back, it was down to 73, which I found appalling. Well, do you realize that for like a comfortable room temperature, the majority
Starting point is 00:20:57 of people don't feel like 77 is perfect is nice. And I still wear a sweater in the room. Yeah. And at 77, I like it. No, I think you, I think you have a lot of problems. I think, I think you should go get a physical. I think I do have some kind of low, what is that? Low testosterone.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That's AIDS. Yeah. What do you think's wrong? I'm serious. I don't know. Something's wrong with you, though. You think I'm like a blood disorder? Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I do get, I'm normally cold all the time. Yeah, something's wrong with you. Maybe I just know it like no metabolism or something. It's possible. When I was younger, like in my 20s, I would be cold all the time, but then I would have sweats, like I would be cold and sweaty. Jesus. I know.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So weird. That's odd. I don't know. Um, we were talking about, I'm really excited that, uh, I'm going to celebrate this year, my 40th birthday. And I'm really excited. I know. We were discussing options to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You're finally going to be 40 after I've been 40. I know for a decade. For a decade now. I can't wait for you to join the club. It's so awesome. You're going to love it. Yeah. So I was, we were in the car on the way over and I'm like, well, what are we
Starting point is 00:22:12 going to do to celebrate your birthday? Tom's not a big party guy. So I know, I know that the surprise party or the party is probably not. True. Right. Out. Yeah. And then what did you say?
Starting point is 00:22:23 Well, I know there's a couple, um, like really cool car places, like experiences, right, race tracks. And so I was like, Oh, that would be super fun for my 40th to get like a group of friends together and we go and like hit a track and just, you know, like just do it like that. I thought that would be a fun way to do it. Yeah. And then who is like the most perfect dream crusher?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Go ahead, take over. No, I didn't mean to crush your dreams. I just went, so can I come to your 40th birthday or this is just like your, oh, you're alone. Is there's a way I could participate in your 40th? Is what I'm saying? I didn't, I was saying was no, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Okay. Well, all right. I kind of wanted it to be hot core fun. Right, right. Without the old battle acts there. I'm telling you, I mean, don't drive fast. Yeah, exactly. I know how you're going to be.
Starting point is 00:23:19 You're going to be like, uh, you know, okay. So that's what I was just trying to make sure that's cool. That it was still actually going to be fun. He's really not inviting me to his 40th, which is crazy. You should have heard him in the car. He was like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I was thinking like, you know, my friends, we could all go down on the racetrack. Hot core fun.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And I was like, that sounds cool. Yeah, but what I was thinking was like, yeah, what were you thinking? Well, I was thinking I would celebrate having fun with my friends. And then afterwards I'd see you and be like, Hey, what's up? And, you know, and I could share a chili dog or something. Yeah, cool. Yeah. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:24:01 So do you think that my, my driving idea is that bad? No, not, I'm seriously, I'm not questioning your dream. I think you should go have fun with your friends, but I'm just wondering if there's an idea where I like, I could celebrate with you too. I don't know. Like, what should I do then? Not do you're saying? No, I'm not saying not do your dreams.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Do the additional. I'll do an additional. All right. One that your wife and children could participate in, maybe. That doesn't sound like fun. So I should, should I be like, oh, you know what? For this year, I just want to make sure I don't have fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You know what I mean? OK, there was this time I'll never forget, Tommy. Yeah, we were flying, you were, you were opening for Russell Peters and we were flying over to London together. This is in 2010. 10, yeah. And we were sitting and we're the, the stewardess puts down our food and we both get our meals the same time.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And then you finish eating. I'm still I'm like halfway through mine, but you're finished. And then you just go up and you put your headphones on and you just start watching a movie. Right. Yeah. And I'm like, right. I'm right next to you.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And I go, can you talk to me a little while I'm still eating my meal? Yeah, but I was done. Right. Right. So what am I supposed to do? Like, just keep me company. But you have a TV, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You can't just watch the TV. I'd rather talk. I mean, we not the whole, you know, eight hour flight or whatever, but just while I was eating, it would be nice to make some polite conversation. You know. So how much are you going to try to railroad my birthday plans? Oh, my God. I'm not going to rail.
Starting point is 00:25:49 What do you mean, railroading? I'm just wondering if there's a way that I could do something maybe after with you. But didn't we say that right afterwards? We're like, oh, yeah, we'll go do like, you know, husband, wife thing. Oh, OK. I just didn't know if that was on your agenda because your first thought was like, I got to get out of here. I got to go have fun.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Friends. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, OK. For my birthday, I was just a little concerned that I wasn't a part of your. Well, you're not a part of the fun part. Sure. Like the fun part happens with my friends. Right. Right. That's fine. And then afterwards when I'm like, you know, then I'll see the. When you're like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. Then I'll be like, yeah, happy birthday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With my wife and kids. Cool. Thanks. Should we go? What are we going to do for that part? I don't know. Maybe if you guys could just like chill out, go away.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. And go to sleep. Let me just fucking enjoy my day and stop bothering me. That is so rude. You guys are the worst. You want me just to throw you the remote control and like a beer and be like, bye, dad. Yeah. And leave you alone. All right. Here's the perfect turning into Al Bundy.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I just thought of the perfect day. Yeah. I go to the track with my friends. Yeah. We do some laps. You know, we have a couple of drinks ripped. We get ripped. And then I come home. You have your birthday. And there's like a cake.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You guys, we do the candles, blow out the candles, and then you and the kids leave. Yeah. And then like a week later, you guys come back. You go, how was your birthday week? Oh, my God. I think that sounds like a. Happy 40th to me. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:29 That's terrible. That's true. You're going to be sad one day. Hot core fun. Babe, I want to have fun. No, I'm excited to. Yeah, I haven't even really. I kept waiting to turn 40.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I know. It's like every year, it's like, how many goddamn years I have to wait? Everybody I know is at least 40 something. Yeah. And I feel the I feel like you've been a 40 year old man your whole life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that too. You were born 40. I think you've been waiting to grow into this age, your whole existence.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Yeah. And now that you're finally going to be that grouchy 40 something, it's going to be so awesome for you. Yeah. Like, you know, there are actors that have just always been old as fuck. Like there's never a young. I'm going to really come into myself. Be Arthur or whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'm like 50. Yeah. When I'm 50, I'm going to be like, I'm myself. Perfect. Like, you know, Josh Flagg from the real estate show that we watch when. Million dollar list. Million dollar. Josh Flagg is like you. Like he's this older soul and he's meant to be 40 from that.
Starting point is 00:28:31 He's going to be like the raddest old Jewish guy who sells real estate. He needs to be 60. Sixty to go into to be in his element fit into that personality. That's true. Yeah. Like you were kind of a sucky 20 something. You weren't good at being like 23 or 25. You're you were always older.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I wasn't. But that's why I married you. Yeah. Yeah. So what? So now it's what do you think would be fun on my birthday for you? Yeah. Pretty much your scenario.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Leave me alone. Close the curtains. You forgot that part of like make it dark. In cold. Turn down the thermostat. Close the blinds. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Throw me a sandwich. Turn on the football game. Goodbye. Yeah. Bye. Don't talk to me. Let me get my underwear. This I'm smiling here to you.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I know. I know. And then let me watch my serial killer shows. Yeah. I know because now you're into Ted Bundy. That's the new one. Well the Netflix put out the four part little mini series. And then there's a new Zac Efron movie where he plays
Starting point is 00:29:35 Ted Bundy. Zac Efron. Zac Efron. He's like a Disney actor. Like kind of a sweet. Yeah. He's playing. Now let me ask you because you're quite an aficionado on serial killers.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I'm really not though. When you talk to like a real some of the people that really know. I just watch crime shows. Oh OK. Yeah. Because I'm wondering like how much more can you learn about your soulmate Ted Bundy. Soulmate.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Come on. Your new comedy series you're into. They really made him look bad. OK. They. Uh huh. They really. Why.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Just didn't feel that balanced. Then. Oh is it fake fake news. Could be. I don't know how the fuck you I don't like that. Like I don't know why you're watching this crap right before you go to bed. Like you know that it's not a good thing before you sleep to fill your head full of garbage and violence and like you watch all violence and bad things.
Starting point is 00:30:25 You know you go to sleep. Fucking. Man. Yeah. He was really violent. It's a cool guy. He's. One of the coolest.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Yeah. He is so violent. What did I don't even do I want to know. Bundy. Targeted. When. Here we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:45 So we think for sure 30. But probably more. No brunettes. Oh thank God. Usually brunettes. But he he claimed that he did it in six states. But I think the you know. They focus mostly on Washington Utah and Florida.
Starting point is 00:31:04 All weird states. Yeah. But he says that he also killed people in Idaho California. California. Oh we're somewhere else. Wow. No you're a huge fan of his. I'm not a fan of his.
Starting point is 00:31:18 No I'm not a fan of his. An admirer man I said. No why. You've been talking about him a lot. Yeah because the Netflix series is like a big thing right now. Yeah. I do know I do. I've seen him because he's attractive.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Good looking guy. He's probably one of the hotter serial killers. Yeah if you want to put that out there. Yeah sure the other ones I've seen are not as cute. They're yeah they're they're really they're usually not cute. Right. Yeah he's very articulate. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Yeah right guy. Oh I know he represented himself in court. I've heard that. Not a good decision. Right. Yeah he didn't have any money. So he was appointed public defenders. Who actually were legitimately trying to get him off.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And and actually for being public defenders. You know at least knew the law and how it worked. And yeah had a pretty like a decent strategy. Yeah but he was way too much of a narcissist to accept their thoughts and opinions. So he kept sabotaging the whole thing. That's crazy. Yeah he is why he's definitely the reason why he got the death penalty is his fault. His own defense.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah. His own bad defense. Interesting. So he liked brunettes. Well he targeted them usually. I mean there might have been a blonde or two but most of them were brunettes. And how does he get them. Well you know in the Florida state case he just broke into a sorority house and beat them to death.
Starting point is 00:32:46 But like normally he would he would do this thing where he would wear a sling on his arm. And then be like can you help me like load this into my car. Like silence of the lamps. Yeah. That's what that's what he did to lure his victims. Is it Buffalo Bill. Yeah. He went excuse me can you help me put the couch in the truck.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And then for you a great big fat person. And then Frederica Bimmel. Yeah. Was what was her name. And she was Hannah American girl. And then she's she's like listening to that song. And now whenever I hear that song I think it sounds the last. And then she's like oh OK I'll help you.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And then. Bam. Now but if you watch the movie closely she has a moment of hesitation. Yeah. Well there's a woman in the documentary series. That got away from him. Good. Can you imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Good. But like in her looking back now you know she looks back and realizes how close she was. How did he try to get the sling. I remember I don't remember if he told her if it was the sling or not. But he got her into the car and he tried to handcuff her. And she pulled away. I think she even had a good girl on her and she like fought like hell. Good girl scrapped and ran away and she got away from him.
Starting point is 00:33:59 But you know she obviously knew what he looked like knew what he was driving. Yeah. She but she's the one she's the one that got only one. Yeah. See this is why I'm rude to strangers or just shut off to strangers. Well I know I actually thought about you a lot because you know he would say thing he would go to the he would say hey can you help me carry this stuff. And then it's the woman who's like sure.
Starting point is 00:34:25 No carries and then he shoves her in the car. No the crowbar. Yeah. Yeah. See there's a thing called stranger danger that they taught us in the year though you're the person to be like not going to fucking help you get shit. Get the fuck away from me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Stop looking at me. No dog to me. Yeah. But you know we have to encourage girls young girls and women to be less accommodating and to be a little scrappy. Don't fucking talk to me bro. Don't look at me. No you can't I'm not fucking helping you with nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:55 There's a type that I would say went along and they were generally just like nice. Nice girls. Yeah. Can't be nice dude. The nice people would be like yeah help you. No nice. Can I tell you how I usually go out in public. Sunglasses on even indoors.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I mean even indoors. It's sometimes in the grocery store line like don't look at me. Don't fucking talk to me. This is just to keep the Ted Bundy's away. Bye bye bye bye bye bye bye Felicia not even looking at you. Yeah dude don't even talk to me bro. I don't want to fucking talk to you. He tells a story.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I'm going to teach our kids that too. Anti-social good. When he was he finally confessed to the murder he denied him for years and years and years and he confessed to them like two days before he was executed. Really. Yeah. And so he's he's telling the story about how he got this one girl in his car and he did the sling thing and smart guy.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I guess she had like come to he knocked her out and she came to and she's like are you the are you the Spanish tutor. Like she had a Spanish assignment and she was like are you my Spanish tutor. And he laughed. He was like that was funny. Nice little memory. That was his memory. He's like yeah you know she she's like are you the Spanish tutor.
Starting point is 00:36:11 He's like I don't know. I thought it was funny but he tells him that it's pretty fucked up. Sure. Yeah. And what part that and that's what you like is that. No that's horrific. Okay. I guess you and I have different ideas of what's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Now don't forget he decapitated some of them. Okay. Now the one I don't like this stuff. I'm sure one thing that's kind of interesting I don't like it. I don't like it. This is kind of interesting especially before bed. No this is kind of interesting. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Most rapist murderers would rape and then kill. But Ted was different because he would kill and then have sex with their bodies. Wow. That's kind of a neat difference. Well what is the difference psychologically. I mean don't you think the thrill is to see the fear. Well he liked that too. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But yeah he would have sex with dead bodies. Yeah. That's nice. That can't be pleasant though. I beg to differ. I don't know. Okay. Now you said that my mind and my subconscious is full of.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I'll tell you why because every. I don't know how. Look everybody will tell you that before you go to bed you should fill your mind with positive thoughts affirmations. Okay. Meditation. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 I just don't know how you're going to sleep at night and not having horrific nightmares because it's all murder rape yelling. Every time I hear you on your on your phone if you're laying next to me not even watching TV it's screaming people screaming and fighting. Come on out. Like you were taking a shit last night you came home. Of course you had this shit right away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And I'm sleeping and I hear your phone. It's all violence all the time. Why is the I mean but don't you get you never get sick of watching people screaming at each other hitting each other. It's all fight videos and that's just what floats in my mind. Yeah. Like this is but but you know what I'm saying just from a very content of right happy person like what you think about you're filling your mind with
Starting point is 00:38:16 garbage essentially all the time. It's even like reading Twitter you want to read going out like that you want to read other garbage thoughts from garbage people. I don't even want to fucking know what these idiots yeah Twitter. Yeah I like it. I don't know how you do it. Yeah I like it. I try to keep my thoughts somewhat restricted to you want to see if this is
Starting point is 00:38:39 a horrible or hilarious. Yeah I love these titles. Yeah well don't say them. Not gonna but I love blue man's you turn the audio up to the vast the audio helps on this. All right go ahead let's see. Why are you laughing I don't even know why you're laughing I swear to God I don't know because the guy walked out with a cigarette still in his mouth.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Oh I didn't even see that I was listening to the woman scream well that's the funny funny part but I'm saying the second funny part. Okay but that woman's really hurt back. Can you play the second clip again please just a second. Yeah yeah listen look at this guy about to walk out right here that's the crazy part. I don't but I can't thank you but I can't laugh at the woman's cry wait why oh my God babe you got mental problems you gotta talk to Dr. Drew about your shit. Okay so I know you don't like humor and you're asking me why I don't want you at
Starting point is 00:40:02 my birthday party. You're so stupid you're gonna be the one who's like why are you guys laughing why are you having a good time. No not at all babe. Yes not at all. Oh yeah we gotta do these. Yeah. All right you go first.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Well just one don't worry. No I have this one too. I know but I don't spell at the same time. Oh okay. Oh Gene so listen there's a very exciting political news we don't normally talk about politics right on this show and I know it upsets people but some things you just can't ignore and one of those things Gene is that the potential candidates for 2020 just keeps ramping up.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yes. There's new people in the field every day and one who really has spoken to us on this show before somebody who we have celebrated for just being you know a really forward thinker and somebody who's I think impressed us on their own and now potentially could be the president. Wow. Of the United States if things work out I think in everyone's best interest is one John McAfee.
Starting point is 00:41:23 That's right a YMH alum. YMH alum if you don't know Mr. McAfee started that McAfee antivirus software and made him a very wealthy man. He eventually lived in Belize where he was accused I believe of multiple murders. Sure. And now he's living on a boat traveling or yacht traveling around the open sea to avoid the IRS and he's also running for president. One of the things that stuck out in that documentary about Mr.
Starting point is 00:41:56 McAfee as he was alluding authorities in Belize and I think of trying to not be extradited back was that he had a well-known fetish and I'm not a fetish shamer kink shamer I don't think that's cool but it's still pretty interesting to learn about some well look why you can also have sympathy for people and make fun of them at the same time. Sure. So I think whatever I'm saying that whatever turns you on turns you on I'm not here to mock that or ridicule you but if you don't know Mr.
Starting point is 00:42:29 McAfee had a rather peculiar fetish in that he would offer monies to women in the village and they would come over and well I don't know maybe this clip can explain it better than I can. This was my first time I was ashamed but then I got used to it. What did he have you do? Sit on this hammock. The hammock has a hole. He put in a hammock and after that he lays down on the hammock then he
Starting point is 00:42:59 you know he would cut cut a little hole and he would sit there that's what he used it for because he he wanted to have like Scott sex and then I didn't agree with that. What is Scott sex? I mean you poop in someone's mouth. He used to make you shit in his mouth like that. She's my favorite. I never had done that before and it was an experience for me and he puts his
Starting point is 00:43:27 hand under your butt and he asks you to shit in his mouth and so yeah. I love these chicks. I love this girl on the blue shirt. Yeah. What do you think her name is? I don't know. Is Maralda. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. I like her. She seems like she's fun though. Like doesn't she seem like she could tell you some shit. Yeah no she's got some well she's got a great story right here great stories. I just I've always been actually most just curious about how how you don't vomit. But yeah that's a that's a really good medical question.
Starting point is 00:44:04 You know what I'm saying. Yeah no I know it's nasty. I get it that like okay something in his wiring that he obviously likes it but like doesn't your biology just lead you to just automatically vomit. I guess. And his mouth too. Yeah shitty not even like shit on my chest shit in my mouth and then what. Are they eating you think I don't know don't need lunch anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Yes we had Red Band on here and he was telling us that he had a little dookie in his mouth. That was one of the most horrific stories that went up as a highlight. If you want to just watch that there's a highlight that we put out of Red Band telling the grossest story ever and it involved him getting shit in his mouth. Well he said he was high on Molly so he didn't he knew he knew that it was something in his mouth right. But then he immediately spit it out.
Starting point is 00:45:03 He said he spit it back in her ass. Yeah I know. It seems hard to believe. I don't know dude. I don't know then he said he wiped shit all over. I mean yeah but that you're right you're right and then it goes against your basic instinct to survive eating shit like you're not supposed to put that in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah you learn quickly. Oh man. I don't know bro. I'd he's got my vote. Yeah. Do you vote for McAfee. Yeah no I'm voting for him. It's.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I will say he's any he's very resourceful. If he's on the ticket I'm voting for him. He's a pretty clever guy. He's a he's you know got all these charges and he's on the high seas avoiding tax very smart man. Yeah he's clearly. Yes pretty. I hope Mr. Mac I hope what if like he gets elected and then they're like all
Starting point is 00:45:49 the like the mainstream media doesn't realize like. We're standing on the White House lawn where they have actually the White House has erected their 30 hammocks now Mr. President McAfee insisted it's how he likes to relax. It'd be crazy. I've always found yeah and the hammock very ingenious too. I mean I would never in a million years. Come up with that if you're like you're into shit.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah I mean it's a it's brilliant. He's like just take a seat on my hand. It's really brilliant because then you get it fresh from the source. Yeah because I was thinking if I were in a scat I'd be like how could I get this person to shit somewhere and then I could get the shit. I'd be like maybe like a toddler toilet. He gets to watch the whole thing right in real time. It's fresh from the source.
Starting point is 00:46:33 I think he was paying them like a hundred hundred fifty. That's easy money. Yeah that's easy money. Like just but don't waste it. You'd be like hey what time do you. Every day around eight a.m. Watch come by seven forty five. Or what if he what if he's like Selma.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I want you to come over and he's like drink all this coffee. Yeah he's like you have a double tall eat those peppers too. What are you doing right. She's like peppers. Yeah yeah he's like eat this bowl. It's like five different cheeses. Yeah you gotta have hummus of course it's breakfast. She's like I'm feeling gassy.
Starting point is 00:47:08 He's like that's what I'm talking about. I should go lay in my hammock. I think I need to use the toilet. The hand is perfect. There had to be some sloppers. Is that blue shirt looks like she didn't have the best diet. How much do you think Maggie V would pay for your dumps. Man I don't know if he's like that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah you like uncircumcised guys as I recall right. It kind of suerve cacks. Would you do it. OK would you do it. Pupin hammock for money. You're broke. It's 2008 living in the Rampark. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 A guy approaches you. When you're really counting bills like you're. I know a hundred dollars. So I was like hey just take it like you're going to take a shit. You're at something you'd be doing anyway. Exactly. I kind of feel the same way about fart videos. I would really be excited if someone was in the piss.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Which there are if they're like hey can you piss on me like I'm about piss on you all day. Yeah the piss one's easier than all. Yeah as a guy too it's like you have this little hose. It's kind of fun. Right. You just point it where I know I'm super jealous actually. Yeah. Well well president McAfee.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Mine's more like a spout. It's not really a hose but you know I mean. A spout. Mine's a little teacup short and stout. Yeah. Oh you're sweet I love you. I don't have I wasn't given the gift if you will. I'll stop it.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Your penis is amazing. I got coming these balls. Yes you do. You do have come on your balls. I know. You need to be evacuated. You were very grumpy yesterday. Evacuated.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I mean you get that come out of your nuts. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh Jean. What's that baby jeans. Oh yeah we were talking about that before. What baby. I had this.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Oh yeah this is so exciting. So there's a there's a thing where you know if you're lucky you have your. Like in music you get a hit song right. Yeah. And like people tour off of their song near Margaritaville if you yeah. And I you know I've done these specials and put out albums and I've had people request things or you know yell things to me but I realized that for sure the thing that people yell at me the most in airports in public driving walking at shows in the
Starting point is 00:49:39 hotel 100 percent is bikes. Yeah. I mean bikes is is literally the thing that just never you know stops happening. Oh yeah. OK. So I've had a couple of bike shirts and I realized that like they call me like every time I restock the store with the bike shirt they're like hey it's it's gone again like it's sold out.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So I was like you know instead of like restocking it again and again with that like why don't I just come up with new designs. It's a great idea. So I did. I reached out hired an amazing artist and I came up well collectively we have three now we have a new bikes hat like a flex fit baseball cap. I love this design. We have the a new bikes t-shirt and then I went I wanted to go like just over crazy
Starting point is 00:50:31 on one of them. I have a champion crew neck bikes sweatshirt with the whole bikes design and then my face over it. I love it. And I love it. It's all it's all in the store now. Thank you guys for continuing and some of these will be at the live shows if you're coming to live shows not all of them but it will be at some of them.
Starting point is 00:50:57 We also last week had them put up that water champ mouse pad with the try it out stickers. Everybody was like asking me for stickers. So we oh right. The try it out guy. That's a huge huge success. Yeah try it out guys. He's a baller dude.
Starting point is 00:51:15 So he's we have that in there try it out. He's got stickers and then there's the cool guy club. Those those were added last week cool guy club and there's one more that was oh yeah there was a little bit of overstock from the the Texas run of those those like let's get physical comedy posters. So those are all there. They're all at the store. They are Tom Cigarette or excuse me merch method dot com slash Tom Cigarette and
Starting point is 00:51:49 you can see everything in the store. I like that. That's awesome. Thank you very much. Thank you guys for your support. Yeah Jean and by the way if you're at live shows could people ask me this. They do. They're doing cash only at the.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Oh OK. The merch. Just prepare yourself. OK mommy. Yeah. Yes. Good. I was going to tell you so I was watching a lot of regular TV this week.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I've watched regular TV in so long and the commercials are so different now. There's a ton of fucking woke ads now. Stay woke bro. Stay woke bro. It's like everything's got to be woke now. It's it's almost to the point where it's super annoying for me like down to the fucking razors now like everybody's got to be I saw the I saw I saw the the Gillette one where it was like the short film.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It used to be like the best man can get. And it was like be a better man. Yeah. And it was about like guys like like it was dismissing the idea that boys will be boys right so even when they're like boys were fighting in the yard you know brothers were like scrapping or guys were like guys suck like hey she's hot. They're like whoa those guys being like hey man yeah that's not cool. And then the guy like you're right you're right yeah it's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah yeah you're going to you're going to coach that out of God. Well why don't you fucking hate yourself some more white guy. Yeah. And then stop stop staring at chicks and wanting to touch them. Why don't think anybody was ever like hey let's keep cat calling women. No because like guys that do that get like other guys roll their eyes at them and always have yeah I don't think douchebags were ever really in style. They're the worst.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. But I think it's now that you guys are expected to step up and be like hey stop being a douchebag you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Okay duty now to tell the crazy person to stop being crazy. Yeah I don't think so. Well because that guy might do something weird to you like clearly that person's unstable who's like there's always been my dick like that guy's not cool.
Starting point is 00:54:06 Unbalanced narcissistic weird aggressive guy. Yeah they're psychos and the best thing to for everyone to do is avoid them and get away from them. Yeah of course just ignore them don't egg them on. Telling guys like step up like get involved with these psychos fuck you. Well unless they're hurting somebody. Well yeah that's different I mean that doesn't show them like assaulting people in the commercial it shows them being like like like guy who goes like like
Starting point is 00:54:35 that's the girl that walks by. Like he's probably homeless and crazy anyway. Yeah most guys are not going to be like hey man don't be disrespectful. Yeah because like you and your civilized friends don't do that. Right normal guys I'm not fucking coaching you. They're usually members of the cool guys club anyways the guys that are doing shit like that like they're not. Batteries not included civilized.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah that's right. So anyway I saw this fucking this woke up Venus commercial if we could play this ridiculous with Venus you're in charge of how your skin feels. So when the world expects you to follow the rules write your own break the rule. Baby she's got it because no one gets an opinion on how you live your life. No why you shave or how you show your skin. My skin my way. So they're saying like now you don't have to shave your pussy's.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Shave your pussy or not shave your pussy or you can shave your arm like that one. I know a lot of girls that do shave their upper arms but they're showing you that like hey there's other girls that are gross like you. Well it's also yeah like she shaves her arm she shaves her under no one can tell you how to shave right with somebody telling you that you couldn't shave before. That's the thing there was never yeah now there was more the mandate of like ladies you should shave yeah that's what they're trying to quote empower us. Yeah they let you know they're like you can shave a star in your pussy hair.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Right. You want yeah they used to be like that like here's you're empowered to be creative with your pussy hair yeah and now they're like you don't even have to shave your pussy hair you go girl you shave your forearm or your face like a guy yeah I think it feels like I watch it and I don't feel empowered and I don't feel like they're on my side all of us just a little bit like hey you know grooming is a private thing yeah I mean I don't know I mean most of us just want to be able to just groom I don't I don't need it to be like political it doesn't need to be a
Starting point is 00:56:41 movement I don't know there's hair coming out of places I don't want it coming out of you know I trim nose I got trim ears now yeah I get eyebrow hairs into my eye line so I'll be walking around I'm like why do I see hairs yeah and they're just growing out of my eyebrows yeah yeah I mean I don't know to make it like I you know I stand take a knee with cat yeah the fuck it's a little it's a I think what bothers me is the like the corporate empowerment angle like I hate that ladies we're empowering you all the commercials should be like we sell shit do you like it yeah works do you want to shave or not if you want to
Starting point is 00:57:20 here I hate to spin that's the thing yeah it's like when it's like you know they'll be like we're saying it's Black History Month and Burger King cares really out of here like like nobody cares yeah and they'll they'll do what they'll do is they'll do an ad where it like it'll show like Dr. King and then it'll like fade out and then at the very end it'll be like Burger King yeah Burger King yeah come on man you nasty yeah I'm using Paris Hilton to sell burgers or Carl Jr. was like a decade ago look we're gonna stay out of these political things because I don't understand like when people are like you
Starting point is 00:57:56 know they they use their platform to do the right thing like Venus what are you talking about they just want you to buy razors that's a trick to you if you think that like it's because they care then they tricked you of course it's a trick it's not real they're not like sitting there at Gillette being like I don't care if we sell razors this month guys have to start acting right like no I know we have a social conscience never never not never care about that share price of course and also aren't women there's like a pink tax on on women's products so the same idea identical product basically with
Starting point is 00:58:32 different packaging is sold to women for more money so actually men's razors are probably a better quality razor than really absolutely same shit different toilet they charge us more for for the same product to get our hair done it costs significantly more that part's true I could not believe your guys oh I know I mean obviously I have no hair but but I'm just saying like for like a nice salon women's yeah cut blowout whatever it's called hundreds of dollars hundreds of dollars but who's that company that we use their razor in their shower remember Harry's was a Harry's no the other one dollar shave dollar shave
Starting point is 00:59:09 club can I tell you that if you want to talk about a woke company actually the way they were doing it was was pretty legit cuz they were like women don't pay more oh yeah this that's a pink tax that's Venus is bullshit by the way yeah if you want a real grazer use the guys yeah and pay less and have a better shave and that's true beards and shit cuz I don't use this bullshit I use what Harry's wait no no no dollar shave dollar shave club cuz it's the best dude that's way better than the worst shit they're selling to me yeah well you know what they do they go oh we put a fucking lotion strip on it we made it
Starting point is 00:59:41 pink yeah and now you can use it on your I hate when any corporation gets involved I'm saying why they care like they give a fuck I hate it I know then any holiday or whatever all that shit man oh I know now there are legit companies like they're saying like Millennials are starting companies that are actually conscientious sure like for you know bombos or whatever for every song to the homeless that's right yeah there's the what's the other thing that was a pretty cool a Newman you know Paul Newman's company new dressing yeah well they would donate like all the profit that's cool charity that's a little
Starting point is 01:00:21 different yeah but they're not being like you know BMW we want to make sure everyone has a mean right non-binary what it's not true it's all bullsig um what is it we should uh you should probably do that one okay mommy all right why and each will be right back and we are back and I am overjoyed definitely the happiest I've ever been doing this no in life I mean it was like hey Tom I'm pregnant okay and all every other guest we've ever had can go fuck themselves yeah because we finally the whole purpose of this podcast actually I think we should wrap up the podcast after I know it's our final episode because
Starting point is 01:01:08 there's no point in continuing we have now a legend sitting with us and my joy to introduce Big Daddy Kane thank you very much for coming my pleasure man we're very excited to have you that you know it's funny people all the time asked me like you know they asked me about jokes and like stories and I realized that first of all the whole reason that I even was able to meet you or talk to you his here's how crazy this was so I tell this story in the special in my first special completely normal I do this joke about yelling sub Kane to you and I remember when that happened first of all I never even got to tell you
Starting point is 01:01:46 afterwards that that's actually a true story that I actually really did do that that you were getting out you've been to the comedy store I saw you getting out of a car and years ago years before I did that and I saw you I was like sub Kane like that I yelled it I saw you turn around and that was burned into my memory that's like a story and I told it and then the thrill was this so when that special came out you know it like it started to get like a little popular a little more popular it wasn't like some huge special but it gave me a nice bump and so one day when that like a few months after that's been out I was
Starting point is 01:02:25 working the I can't believe how much I remember this I was working the Hartford funny bone which is in Manchester Connecticut just outside of Hartford and I tweeted you about it because somebody people had been tweeting me and you replied the nicest reply you were like it's hilarious like much success continued and I was like babe yeah I'm gonna print this when I get home dude you'd frame it yeah you had shit coming out of the bottom of your pants yeah I was come believe how excited he was so excited and and I was like well that's like you know that's that's a perfect day yeah I was just like that's it nothing
Starting point is 01:03:03 happen then oh my god I can't believe I actually have it here somewhere but I'm probably not gonna be able to find it then I come home and I'm I'm just you know going through my day we're renting a guest house and I wake up and it's like you know when you have your phone has a voicemail just on it like you don't you don't see a missed call just has a new voicemail it's a new voicemail from you and you're staying with you're with Russell Russell Peters who right right Russell Peters even for people that don't know Russell Peters knows and loves hip-hop so much that he makes me feel like I don't like hip-hop right because
Starting point is 01:03:43 like he's such a fan that I was like I thought I was a fan but then he'll be like do you know who played the drums on this I'm like no motherfucker I don't who plays like he knows and he knows everything everything Russell's a true B-boy yeah I mean to another level so he yeah I guess you had you know you saw him and you guys you mentioned it he got you to leave me a voicemail which is incredible it's in this computer somewhere and then I went to his house and I got and I met you and I was just like a kid man I was like a giddy kid and the reason is like you know I think music makes such an impact on on everybody
Starting point is 01:04:22 but especially like what you're into when you're young you know like those formative years whatever you're listening to stays with you and that's why absolutely people like really align themselves with that that music that was during that time period you know like to me it makes so much more sense now when I was a kid and like your parents be listening to oldies you're like why you listen to this old shit and it's like well that was their their formative years music well I mean you know certain songs you know symbolize certain things you know yeah remember what you were doing when that song came out or
Starting point is 01:04:59 the first time you heard sure who you were dating or in love with or trying to even get with you know things like that yeah yeah and then like and I see it actually you have one of these um an Instagram page where I feel like you're one of the people who regardless of your celebrity you're very much yourself like it doesn't matter that you're a famous entertainer you share like this is the music I like these are the movies I like these are the this is my point of view on things it really is a peek into like who you are I figure I I feel like somebody could see that and be like these are the things that have impacted you well you
Starting point is 01:05:33 know up until social media you know you really had to just try to decipher through interviews what's in an artist mind you know right so I mean when you can actually contact with your fan base and supporters and share with them what you're listening to or watching you know it just makes it a lot easier for them to understand you you know what was your like these are things I've always wanted to ask what was like in the in the rotation of music that you liked as a kid like growing up you know before you were actually making music Marvin Gaye I listen to Marvin Gaye probably more than any other artist really yeah well
Starting point is 01:06:13 that makes sense yeah yeah I mean it's I've always also wanted to ask this to anybody who's like I mean you know when you're like really skilled as an emcee when you like you know it feels like it comes naturally out of you is it a gift like did you figure out that you could do this really young yeah how'd you know you can even do this yeah I mean it was something that I got into just because of an older cousin was doing it you know that was really like you know the main reason for me starting yeah but he was rhyming with two other guys that was his age and told me I was too young how old are you at when you're too young he
Starting point is 01:06:58 says about 12 so you like 12 so anywhere between 12 and 14 I can't but they're like you're too young yeah so then you started writing notebooks and stuff yeah you know started writing rhymes but I was writing you know like battle rhymes to prove that I was better than the two dudes that he was with so they put me down with his crew yeah yeah do you remember your first rhymes with the first things you wrote not some of the very first probably like a year too later I want to say no no no probably but yeah like a year later I remember one because I always tell you know the story about it like when I first heard
Starting point is 01:07:41 cold crush brothers mm-hmm you know like I thought I was that dude I was you like I'm popping I got it and I remember kicking around to one of my boys at this point I wasn't Kane I was Tony T yeah and I had this rhyme saying I'm the T-O-N-Y the T-E-E your hands can't hit with your eyes can't see because I know the tricks and I know the trades in the shop as a motherfucking razor blade and you know I thought I was killing it you are killing me and shit that's better than anything 13 year old said that to me I will sign you right now drive you over to Warner Bros. yeah but now my friend told me to listen to Grandmaster
Starting point is 01:08:21 Kaz yeah from the cold crush and when I heard him I was like yeah I'm doing everything wrong really see like I feel like if like if any especially a kid that young even hearing someone like Grandmaster Kaz I would still feel like yeah much it's nice like like you still were able to recognize how much better that guy was than you at that time well see I had battled a lot of people yeah and beat them all so you know I knew what I what I knew and and that's that's the level of greatness that I understood okay then I hear this guy and I'm like I'm nowhere near that you and you recognize it yeah straight like that and
Starting point is 01:09:08 was it Kaz thing was it like a battle tape or was it like a wreck it was um like there was at a party on like one of your cold crush concerts you know yeah and you know I was used to their routines the group routines right I hadn't heard them rhyme individually yet and so I'm listening to this and I'm hearing you like you know Grandmaster Kaz capped another four another nigga couldn't touch me if he had a rhyme store even if he had a plant manufacturing rhymes he couldn't make them no better then I make mine and I'm like yeah I had a long way to go yeah but you're still like I think a big part of it is that I mean I
Starting point is 01:09:47 think most young people might not even recognize it that you know I mean that like you probably advanced so much and then was it a matter of like you just were like I'm gonna go pen to paper all the time like keep working like that like writing like an author would write yeah cuz he back then you know I didn't have a record deal right and I honestly wasn't even focused that heavy on getting one I was really just focused on being you know the greatest emcee in Brooklyn mm-hmm that was probably my biggest concern so I'm always writing new rhymes because I'm battling like every week are you guys are you on street corners of
Starting point is 01:10:24 yes three corners park jams community centers you know sometimes I even you know I went with the people you know knock on their door so hello today mother-in-law can I speak today son oh my god and how I mean I've never been wait no I've done a rap battle on the TVS show and I want it never never as a joke like a joke off and the pressure to think on your toes like that on your feet I mean how did I don't know it's just a gift that you had or must be did you just shit your pants every time like nah I was cool with it you know I mean you know because it was like I was as I was a big Marvin Gaye fan but I was also
Starting point is 01:11:05 a Muhammad Ali fan yeah so at a young age I already knew how to get into other people heads really you have a natural that's like you cultivated the the confidence and shit talking because there's a lot of you know there's metaphors and punch lines and shit in your rhymes oh yeah so like you you were working that out oh yeah I mean yeah there was a lot of always punch like punch for example if you if you were one of those emcees with a big vocabulary then I would you know come at you you know in a comical way you know and you know just crack jokes on you you know or if you were that type of emcee
Starting point is 01:11:43 then I would switch up and start using big words but I wouldn't just just sit in use big words yeah I would use them and then explain it how like you don't know what the hell I'm talking about yeah yeah yeah make you looks humiliate yeah yeah yeah and I always wanted this to like when somebody has like your skill level and like you know when you listen to like a most deaf or qualities guys who you're just like wow this is an incredible command of the English language and command of words like in my mind I've always like you know I've never asked but I've been curious did you read a lot like as it were you
Starting point is 01:12:23 somebody devouring books or did you just have amazing access to words I wouldn't say I read a lot um but I did read you didn't read yeah yeah and in those years where you read like you know I mean like what was I studied you did I studied a lot I studied a lot of things and I studied a lot of people right you know like you know what what makes this person mind you know tech you know you know where did this person come from with this concept this idea and so this bad like in battling a lot of ways you there was like strategy you were like figuring something out well you know they would yeah I mean they were
Starting point is 01:13:01 playing checkers I was playing chess you know that type of thing because it was like I wanted to already be in your head before the battle start yeah you know it's amazing it's such an amazing skill set and then the other thing I was realizing is like you're so young like you get more perspective on it the older you get like with just in life but when when like your first album came out isn't that that's 88 mm-hmm so are you 20 yep 20 years old fucking nuts like to think about it now to have that level of exposure and success and just being able to put out that album let alone that song like so basically because this is the
Starting point is 01:13:46 thing that it hit me afterwards I was like oh like you've probably like you've never had a I mean from then you never had a job like you've you've been an entertainer your whole life basically yeah pretty much on yeah yeah I think I mean my last job is probably in 85 86 you remember what you did yeah I was on delivering fruit crates to like the fruit markets really in Brooklyn yeah we go up the hunts points and pick up the own crates of fruits and vegetables put them on the back of the truck and come back to like about three or four different fruit markets early in the morning drop them off and right from
Starting point is 01:14:27 there then I go to school oh wow and were your parents supportive of you becoming a rapper oh yeah well I mean you know my pops he was more or less the you know like you know you know you know you know I don't you know whatever you do do it you just don't fuck with that be in the fridge you know he was really that tight yeah my mom sounds like my dad my mother she was more like you know like oh like me and Mr. C be that was my DJ at the time you know he we in the crib working or something yeah she come in here like oh you and Calvin doing your hip-hop thing oh okay alright well it's not too loud you know
Starting point is 01:15:07 mommy just got on work oh you keep it down yeah you know but she was cool with it about what she heard your lyrics she like what are you talking about well I mean you know it's like I think my mother's always been supportive yeah of my mind stay you know like the way I think and you know my views because there was one time we clashed over something concerning school and she was just shocked to see that the guidance counselor agreed with me and tried to work with me really yeah so it was like you know I think from that point on she kind of respected me more um as an adult and right views you know yeah yeah yeah so you had like a you already had a strong
Starting point is 01:15:52 opinions at a young age oh yeah oh yeah now did you have any because like now like hip-hop is obviously this worldwide phenomenon you know and you're a big part of you know paving the way and getting it there but you go back to the mid late 80s even as this album is about to come out and you're like I mean I hope it goes well obviously can you even imagine that you know the type of success you were going like what were your hopes of an album coming out did you think it would be like this like like it well see you gotta understand um prior to um my first release I had already been on tour DJing for Roxanne Chante right juice crew stuff uh-huh I had already been on tour rapping with biz marquis you know so you had the exposure or yeah you saw what it could look like
Starting point is 01:16:44 exactly and then you go like I'm gonna do the same I mean I'm gonna surpass this or whatever yeah well I wanted to do it you know um you know differently you know because um biz had really put together like a um a comical show you know like he wanted his show to be you know very you know animated and funny yeah he's a funny guy when I used to come on stage he used to say you know he used to do the his big daddy and his DJ would throw on the Johnny Carson theme and that's what I would come out to so that's that's how yeah and I was saying like um funny rhymes about girls right you know but I wanted to you know really do lyrical stuff so you know when I had my my chance that's the direction I went man telling you I wish I could you know what I would wish I could
Starting point is 01:17:31 go back to being like go back and just be like in his entourage oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I'd be like white boy tea or something like that yeah and then like the guys would be like hey uh just get the girls and the drinks ready and I'd be like everything's all set up for you came yeah like that yeah and then you get that trickle down pussy oh yeah just the fallout the girl who's like he doesn't think I'm pretty yeah I want you to sit right here and tell me about it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah could you imagine just the leftovers scraps must have been amazing yeah I'd be like oh you're all right and just do that you know the grass got some tissues out he thinks I'm ugly oh come here oh yeah that's nice that's really cool yeah I mean check I mean okay so let's look at like let's look at a young like
Starting point is 01:18:20 a young cane I mean check out just style please I remember MTV hello come on man love the hair did this become uh was it like a do you feel like the style the style of what you like you hear was like a natural growth of whatever was in the neighborhood you know what I mean like was it like you're accentuating what you see in the neighborhood well you know with with with fashion wise yeah because you know you you see all the um the hustlers and players and how stylish they are yeah you know and you know how the girls lose their mind over them so it's like okay yeah that's the way I want to dress when I get some money you know um but with the hairstyle like what she was mentioning you know the funny thing is like um as many people that you know attribute that to
Starting point is 01:19:13 me you know like yeah either the flat top or the box cut like this is timeless by the way too they're like it's back in it's right now it's just like it's right now people are like and you're cool it's fresh man but it's so funny how like you know they credit me for the one you know bringing it in but I I got it from Larry Blackman from cameo I mean you listen to my first song I say keep a fresh cameo cut every day because I saw Larry Blackman with it oh wow funny yeah they definitely give you the credit right yeah sure and then uh who took that who had the craziest oh kid kid and play yeah but he rocked it like comical though twice as high because he went like super high with it yeah yeah he had a real real high one yeah but yours is cool like you didn't well I mean I thought his
Starting point is 01:20:02 was cool too I just you know I have no reason to go that high though yeah no yours was sexier jewelry wise now there's famous jewelers everybody knows jewelers names and like they're on social media and you can you know you can hit them up what'd you guys do back then to get like how did you get all this crazy jewelry what did I mean did you have to like you know I mean like find someone oh oh yeah well I mean you know back then most of the time I was using my man Ali in Brooklyn he was he was down and he was in Albuquerque more uh my man Ali that's who a lot of us was going to you know especially you know the Brooklyn cast yeah but um you know there was there was other people all around there were yeah the people telling me I tried to get this stuff
Starting point is 01:20:47 when I was a kid of course you didn't I think everybody at some point wants like chains cool gold chains oh yeah they were like no absolutely your parents weren't cool with that fuck no I was like I would show pictures like this I'd be like I want to get shit like this and they were like get the fuck out of here course and then um they gave me uh like a silver one with like the Virgin Mary on it oh boy it's just not cool it's not cool at all I don't know I want one with a big dollar course where that the of course um so one of the first I mean I was thinking about like different songs and uh so one of them that I that was like a huge one to me was uh burn Hollywood burn it's your featured on public enemy yeah so I was in fifth grade and this album comes out it's
Starting point is 01:21:41 called fear of a black yes recall and I'm wearing that t-shirt by the way to school it's your favorite t-shirt I still have it from fifth grade wow that's dope once a week and I still remember my math teacher mr cannerb being like fear of a black planet the fuck is going on I had no idea so I wear it every like every once a week and it's like for me it's like an album where I first like comprehended things I think it's because a certain age I'm probably 10 and then you could read all the lyrics right right you so you can read all the lyrics so he does he's on a song with ice cube called burn Hollywood burn which I actually felt like I felt it in a shift in uh in in my mind in my own intelligence because I feel like I understood the song I was like oh like I know what the song
Starting point is 01:22:29 is about you know like it makes sense to me because I can read it and actually listen to it but the song starts with a you calling flavor flave and I've always been taken by how he answers the phone and I've I've always been like who the fuck answers the phone like this I mean that's his answer like like the phone the phone rings and this is flayed answering the phone what what what is this that's how he answers the phone is that how he really answers the phone probably you know we we are talking about flavor flave y'all do remember this right cool okay okay yeah yeah exactly yeah it's like we are talking about that's true that's true yeah yeah flavor always been a wild child you know I love him to death though of course I love the death but it I mean
Starting point is 01:23:22 I don't know hold on I mean you know it's an aggressive way to answer a phone it certainly is creative yeah but now you know that's what flavor used to always do whenever he saw me I mean could be across a whole crowded room and he's behind me I'll hear him yeah okay oh really yeah like that's always even still to today he greets me that way oh hilarious how'd you hook up with those guys you know just met through the industry that's all you know you know all coming out with music around the same time and touring together I was on public enemies first tour bring the noise yeah it's my first time really getting like um my own personal tour experience how old are you then
Starting point is 01:24:13 like 20 20 and the dad just blow your mind the first time you're on tour with like these this huge acts and stuff um well no I mean it was it was so much fun because um Chuck Chuck D is just a cool down-to-earth guy that has love for everyone and wants the tour to be successful so he was very supportive to all the artists that was coming on before him and it was myself EPMD Stetsosonic and EZE before NWA came out it's crazy wow man again with the chicks I can only imagine wait EZE before NWA before the NWA project remember EZE had to arm EP first and then NWA came what the easiest said than done I think that was the name oh that was that came out before NWA yeah I didn't remember that yeah I remember the stories about them saying how
Starting point is 01:25:14 he couldn't like uh you know really go through a song the way most like an emcee like he was not used to the breath control the cadence the rhythm so they would do it in parts like of songs so they were like say this part of the verse because he wasn't comfortable even with his own voice oh oh EZE yeah oh wow EZE had an amazing voice yeah but I mean he I guess he wasn't you know originally comfortable with it well I mean he he he was um you know really um a studio rapper because um other people were writing his material you know I don't even think EZE even wanted to be an artist he didn't you know but it but it but I'm glad he did you know become because I mean I thought that you know his voice was amazing yeah and you know and he kept it 100
Starting point is 01:26:03 yeah on every song it sounded I mean it sounded like a the difference it sounded like a real guy right like it sounded like a real person doing it didn't sound like a performance huh it it sounded like a it didn't sound like a performance like it sounded like a dude just like so natural like you it didn't have like a you mean like even though people were writing performance sound like it really came from him yes yes got you okay yeah yeah absolutely all day yeah so yes yeah I mean he kept it above yeah yeah yeah he was it was pretty unique um so but tell me about this so you get this huge obviously um following fame you became you've become known as basically the the you know sex rapper in a way right like your persona is like
Starting point is 01:26:50 associated with sex um and then you get these famous photos with Madonna how did that come together uh well Warner Brothers has sent us on this promotional tour to um visit hospitals in um Manhattan it was really yeah myself um Madonna and Color Me Bad and you know we were going these hospitals but all of them were like really like you know um upscale hospitals and and the children there they weren't raised off a hip hop I put it that way I got you you know so Harley and them really recognized me and then at one point I saw Madonna talking to one of the kids and you know who that is like that's Big Daddy Kane he's a famous rapper yeah say ain't no half and I'm sitting there like yo Madonna know my shit yeah whoa this is crazy you know I'm like
Starting point is 01:27:47 blown away because you know I'm looking at her it's like you know a pop goddess you know and like wow she know my stuff and she's showing me love you know and afterwards you know she talked I mean I was like thank you so much I appreciate the love you know and she told me that you know while I'm doing this book um I would like to have you in it if you will and you know I'm like no that would be an honor I would love to she's like well let me just let you know up you know front it's it's pretty much gonna be nude photos it's like shit even better I remember this book I was uh working at the book star in San Fernando Valley when this book came out and you had to be over 18 to even look at it and it was such a big deal and I remember that it's a very iconic photo actually
Starting point is 01:28:33 with you Naomi Campbell and Madonna yeah they sold a lot I've even seen t-shirts of it how they worked that out I don't know yeah arrivals yeah but yeah I mean it was a lot of fun where did you guys it looks like I mean we were in um Florida in Florida yeah yeah and it just show you just how crazy like um like when I got there I'm like you know saying to myself like you know I've never really been around Madonna other than that one time so I don't really know what to expect what it's gonna be like right so I'm curious you know like how this day gonna flow yeah right soon as I get there Madonna comes running up to me butt ass naked okay ain't so glad you're here y'all let me tell you I was just outside in the middle of the divider on the on the street just like this
Starting point is 01:29:22 with my thumb out taking photos like I'm hitchhiking no car stop no one stopped me can you believe that fucking Madonna and no one stopped oh yeah and I'm like okay yeah this day gonna go good I always think about this photo because I've seen it so many times I always think about the moment before and the moment after this was taken do you remember what were you guys laughing do you remember if you were saying anything like what's the moment really like because you know the photo does the photo but I'm gonna be honest with you please um you know like um with the photos you know Madonna she you know like you know like you know openly tell you you're like you know now put your hand you know come on make yourself at home you know yeah so it was like so I was already cool
Starting point is 01:30:13 there yeah you know like you know you know you know let me you know move around the way I want to so she wasn't timid with you touching her vagine like nah nah she was cool but I mean you know I see in this here photo I'm sitting there like all right Madonna cool but I hope Naomi don't trip when I touch your hand right right because that's actually what I'm thinking too I'm like I wonder like were they hooking up already so like maybe she's cool they owe me lately she was banging she looks the same looks the same yeah yeah she's amazing so was she okay was she okay with that obviously she took a chance she was cool could have gone south real fast if she was like what the fuck are you touching me for
Starting point is 01:30:55 yeah especially nowadays yeah yeah yeah oh especially nowadays that's right oh my gosh you barely do this oh man um I want to ask you a question about like uh like when you collaborate on something like that burn hollywood burn song or like uh you know the lean on me remix for the movie how how do those like just like as a consumer you always go like what how detailed is the like this Chuck D call you and go I'm doing a song this is the premise of the song this is the theme I want you to do a verse that's exactly how it happened with Chuck he said what he wanted and um right about this and this is what we want to get across to the people okay so they're like real clear direction and like on the lean on me one is it like do you get to see this movie though like here's
Starting point is 01:31:43 the movie so you understand what the movie's about um yeah um Benny Medina had um you know issued copies of the movie too I guess everyone that was recording the soundtrack but it like it was like funny so it was like um I was upset about um something that happened with um the finances from my song Roa yeah the colors movie being used in the colors yeah like not licensed or something or whatever well no it's just something happened funny with where I didn't receive the money I'm supposed to get that's another story anyway though um so when they asked about this lean on me thing you know I had said you know yeah yeah I was telling Benny Medina I was going to do it but um the person from the label when they asked me like you know am I getting in the studio doing it getting the
Starting point is 01:32:31 studio doing it you know you know I'm like man fuck this movie man you know you don't even get me right from the last time then one day Benny Medina calls me and says hey are you still going to do the um the song for the lean on me thing like yeah yeah yeah yeah I got it I got it and he says um oh well good because I'm in New York um I can send a car for you and meet you up at um at Marley's house in about two hours like shit all right man yeah yeah send a car so from that time until I got to Barley house I'm writing the song seriously yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah are you stressed out you know I wasn't I wasn't stressed out I mean you know because I had saw um the movie so I knew what it was about and you know where to go okay you know you know I just you know I just I don't
Starting point is 01:33:19 I just it was I had a sour taste in my mouth from something prior so I wasn't really focused on it you know yeah got you there's always this thing about like hit songs um there's always like stories you know about sometimes you know because songs like a great song just stays like a classic and 20 30 40 50 years later people still want to hear it and like we talked to Gloria Stefan one time about one of her songs and she was like I wrote that shit on the plane we were leaving Amsterdam and we landed in London and that song was real and it's a hit and it's a hit and it's like the most so like you know arguably you know your most famous classic songs you got a bunch but ain't no half step and smooth operator when you write those songs and you actually
Starting point is 01:34:04 you know you get in the studio and you record it and you actually hear playback do you do you have some sense of like this is a fucking hit or you're like you know it's another song um no ain't no half step and I felt like um once I hit you did you know once we finished it and it was done I was like you know like um wow yeah this is gonna be crazy yeah yeah because um Bismarck he is actually the one that found um the music for that song uh and he was so excited about some other um record that he bought that he wanted to sample that he just told me you can have that I don't care really like my man really yeah so you know I'm you know putting the concept together and it's like yeah use the heatwave um ain't no half stepping yeah okay I see it and um
Starting point is 01:35:05 I believe it's my DJ idea to put the I'm the big daddy Kane and stuff that you know um but you know we put it together and then um you know hearing it at the end you know I'm like yo this is crazy yeah it's like this you know right here this is crazy this is we're smooth operator though it was like I already like before we even did it I was like you know use um all night long from the Mary Jane girls on some hip hop uh it's gonna kill them you knew I already knew like that's gonna kill them and I knew that you know prior to that we had an issue with Prince trying to use a staple singer song that you know it took us a while to work out Prince was trying to no no no with Prince okay I wanted to use a staple singer song okay Prince on the
Starting point is 01:35:58 publisher so you know the issue that we had to work that we had to work out um so I'm like well I don't want to run into this again so um like I work with Rick James in the past so you know I reached out to him and said amen I got a great song idea but I wanted to sample um Mary Jane girls um all night long he's like use that shit you can use any of them bitches shit matter of fact you need to use in my house that was a bigger record really yeah that was a great impression by the way holy shit oh my god man and what about um did you did you feel like when you guys did the symphony like with the whole juice crew did you feel like did you know like that's that's pretty like this slamming kind of song yeah yeah because it came together in a way where
Starting point is 01:36:49 uh me and cool g-wrap we don't want to be a part of this now we love it okay because it originally started as just something that me and g-wrap was supposed to do together but then Marley said that Craig found out and he wanted to be on it Craig had just recorded a song with Marley called Duck Alert and I thought was you know good and you know Craig had already been down with the juice crew before me hadn't got his shot yet right you know so I felt bad about that and the fact that I saw that he was improving skillfully I was like yeah we definitely need to put Craig on it yeah but then the day we're taking photos for um Marley's album cover we go to his house afterwards and he introduces us to this new guy says this is my new artist master Ace and I want to put him
Starting point is 01:37:37 on the song and Ace is standing there and he's like big Woody Allen glasses on and we like me and g-wrap is like no so I was like look I'm about to say I'm gonna get some pizza and I'm bouncing I'm out mm-hmm and G is like shit I'm what you do and I don't know what held us up or whatever but Ace ended up doing his verse and I went over to G like yo glasses glasses is kind of nice man really I like this though we kind of nice you know and yeah from that them and Craig you know it was type of thing we're like now we're like we're feeling the vibe and we you know we we see that we miss judge dude and he was extremely talented and skillful and it just came out amazing yeah that song's amazing but yeah you don't really I mean there aren't really songs like that anymore
Starting point is 01:38:33 you know like like posse cuts and yeah you don't really hear that I mean you don't really hear actually one of the like the staples of uh that era was the the idea of I'm nice like just as a concept like this whole verse is going to be how dope I am like as a skill as a lyricist yeah now it's you know I mean sometimes but not really like a lot of new artists don't really do like here's how nice I am yeah now that's yeah well I mean you know you got to understand you know back then you're coming from an era where that's really what it was all about a lot of people were really trying to get record deals or you know didn't even you know you know think about you know like that far like I can actually make it in the industry yeah it is wanted to be the
Starting point is 01:39:23 dopest emcee in their neighborhood right so that's the type of stuff they were writing about yeah now you know hip hop is an actual music genre yeah so there's people that can't rap that have never emcee at a party or anything quite a few yeah yeah that's getting into this it's kind of crazy you know well no I mean you can't you it's it's not a bad thing because I mean you know um in r&b pop rock and roll you have artists that get into those music genres and have other people writing for them true yeah yeah people to get into this music genre they can't even really sing that good right they just got to look yeah or something you know sure so I mean you know it's it's where hip hop is right now you have to expect that and it's it's also
Starting point is 01:40:14 like a result of something being if when I was a kid buying these albums you go into a music store and there was a section in the music store called rap and there were 25 albums yeah and that was essentially everybody who had a deal that's what it was it was you it was public enemy run dmc fat boys queen latifa you know gangsta it was yeah but like that was every but now because it's such a success it's reached these incredible heights yeah the you know anything that they becomes that big becomes almost oversaturated in a way you have incredibly talented people and then you have you know there's there's just like anything else like comedy too yeah of course inflation yeah um do you have like uh anybody uh that's like kind of newish now that you enjoy
Starting point is 01:41:12 like j cole like rap city yeah yeah that's cool yeah enjoy j cole enjoy um and there's um there's a new young lady that calls herself chica really yeah like she's a lyrical monster really yeah she's the best kept secret in hip hop right now in my opinion she's a lyrical chica like chi ca i think something she west coast yeah i believe she's all right yeah well because you're obviously such a highly regarded mc we wanted to get your opinion go for it um on some other you know probably um uh less represented artists but you know one second yes chi ka okay chi ka okay chi ka well we would love your you know don't hold back want to hear the real opinion of what you think of some of these rappers here go ahead and get my little taste of uh
Starting point is 01:42:15 bitch i'm hidey slice bitch i'm hidey slice bitch i'm hidey slice i'm wet i'm wild i'm wet i'm wild i'm wet i'm wild i'm wet i'm wild hollywood madham bitch hose on the strip yes politics politician shit hollywood madham bitch well i mean uh just what do you think um my monitor went out i didn't even see oh oh oh okay all right that's too bad um um there's a how do you feel about the rhyme skills yeah like give us like your you know word play uh choice of you know the rhythm k a real good breath control um and what so what about this dude this dude is dope check him out machines with thin machines with thin they got a gun and got a gun yeah i got a gun terminated gun yeah machines with thin machines
Starting point is 01:43:20 with thin t 16 t 16 t 16 100 t 16 machines with thin machines with thin you know um i come from an era i come from an era where a guy went in the studio and said da ha yeah and he won yeah i love that song to today yeah i remember that still to today i love that song yeah so whatever um this cat and them young ladies is doing i i i wish them the best and i would never try to shoot their dreams down because you know i think anybody can make it you know yeah i'm not gonna shoot their dreams i mean listen if if you are one of these artists you just got such an incredible endorsement from big daddy kane he basically said you're awesome that's not what i said i said i'm not going to shoot you okay okay now if you had to work with
Starting point is 01:44:28 one of these artists would you work with the first one or the second one that we played you you have to thank you trying to rake my rap trying to make my rap trying to practice on my flow trying to practice on my flow machines with thin machines with thin i'm gonna say i probably would probably with with the first one since i had the opportunity to actually hear them to music right um with with this young man is he's doing an acapella so i'm not quite sure about you know rhythmically where he is so i can't really you know speak too far on him right got you um it's a thoughtful thoughtful response they're very politically correct yes very thought diplomatic who do we have here another rapper you're very kind yeah
Starting point is 01:45:28 pimp that bitch women and the man got the money out the flick headed to the okay better um i'm i'm i'm i'm tripping right now because you know i have that same blue microphone what yeah i have that microphone i think that's amazing i have this i own that same blue microphone and you know and that company is really doing good with their microphone you know i mean they are even like with the little small blue bird one yeah yeah that's a sin hyzer is it what kind of mic is that no blue that's the name of the company oh blue yeah that's the name of the company is blue what's the next guy because um the next guy seems like he uh also had um had skills too you know but there was uh oh yeah yeah yeah this one of those dudes
Starting point is 01:46:25 they seem they are okay look i'm being honest right now yeah don't i'm not even trying to be funny at all i understand okay like if you i want you to play it again but yo doesn't he his i mean his voice not the rhymes not the rhymes your doesn't his voice sound exactly like iced tea oh interesting let's listen to that play no no bring it back bring it bring it back to the beginning when he's rhyming slower my spirit starts shitting my mind's hot wire you you can't blame me for it yeah i heard it yes
Starting point is 01:47:42 i got almost like a similar yeah accent right yeah yeah i mean even like with the way to yeah it's like his voice reminds me so much i see nick did you just hear what kane said you're the next iced tea congratulations uh hey man they gotta take what they can get you know that's what i would take if i was listening to that i'd be like big daddy k said i'm icy that's how you gotta finish it like that you have to go on absolutely yeah and then the next time i would just i'd be like i'm big tea i would just switch it up big tea yeah tea my little brother yeah uh what's the next and then there's a strong talk i want to i want him to um it's our final one so because we don't want you to um we don't want to burn you out well i i think he's probably
Starting point is 01:48:29 like i thought he was like i don't mean to tell you this but uh stop showing me this shit here we go oh for love of god i can't stop and i won't stop i'll make it pop i'll make it drop i ain't make it stop this is top dog here in your ear listen what you're about to hear because i'm back for good and you ain't even hollywood seller i mean i got a lot of lyrics to a man that is six feet tall i'm that wall yeah i am and i don't care what anyone says because top dog is he so bring it okay um normally i would ask you what you think christina but we have an expert in there yeah no thanks i think the expert should answer i mean i respect his confidence man yeah he said he's a top dog and told anybody to bring it so i mean you know he definitely believes in
Starting point is 01:49:21 himself yeah sure that's the plus you don't believe in yourself no one else that's right and he is from england and and english rappers it sounds like he's got a british accent yeah and they're very hip now right that's a lane well i mean you say now i mean right one of the greatest rappers ever slick rick is from england i didn't slick rick's from england yeah i mean shit we just discovered 21 savage just from there too dude are you serious you know monie love you know i mean yeah i didn't know that this whole time my whole life has been a sham there's been a lot of amazing hip hop artists you know just from the uk did not know this did uh did rick come over as a kid yeah i'm not exactly sure no i knew he was british yeah you can even hear it when he speaks yeah
Starting point is 01:50:08 you can hear it for sure yeah when he speaks you won't hear it so much like in the actual perform like in a song yeah i'm gonna listen close closer now for sure yeah all right there's one other oh boy we're done with lyrics but now we got to show you some moves um we were very gifted dancer too you see this guy yeah i'll see on the ground and take the sword of his spirit which is the word of god jesus christ so put on the arm of god jesus christ we love you god so we do for god jesus christ well will you bring him on tour um i mean yeah i mean if i was opening up for kirk franklin one thing i i totally regret i have not seen you live i've wanted to we've tried to
Starting point is 01:51:11 connect on a show out in la i tried to get get you to one of my shows in uh on the east coast but dude you from i have on deep dives on your on youtube from clips for you on live shows you are a showman like you believe in putting on a fucking show which i respect the shit out of i try man thank you don't no it's awesome i mean i feel like uh because like i've seen you do fucking like a lot of today too is i think um in hip hop not not to say that everybody falls in the category but a lot of people just will pretty much like stand maybe move a little bit you'll you guys you'll have dancers you'll dance you you do you think that's part of because of you grew up watching showman you know what i mean yeah yeah it is yeah um you know back in the days i remember
Starting point is 01:52:04 going i mean doing a show um low east side manhattan and dougie fresh came and he he watched the show and afterwards um you know like everybody was like telling me how good i did so i asked him you know how was it and he was sitting there telling me what he thought i did wrong he was like you know it was cool but you know why you didn't do and why you why did you stop it you know and you you know right there i'm like okay yeah old old school dude hating yeah whatever man but then he asked me to come um hang out with him you know we went back to his crib and he pulled out some videos from earth wind and fire pink floyd and michael jackson and was showing me these videos and talking about stuff and here that he's seeing them do that he you know um transformed into a hip hop form
Starting point is 01:52:56 to use on stage and hip hop shows and i'm like he was like you know he showed me like what he learned from them so i was like yeah it's dope so that next day i went and bought um marvin gay barry white and james brown videos wow and started studying them trying to see stuff that i could you know change into a hip hop form right but you believed in like hey man you're at a show yeah well i mean you know it's like this if you have an album out yeah okay that's for the people to listen to if you put on a show and you stand near and all you do is just stand near and do the songs um on stage and shit all they did was you know see the album right right you know they heard it now they saw the album that's all yeah it was nothing extra nothing entertaining you know to take
Starting point is 01:53:50 it to the next level so that's what i've always tried to do give you something that you didn't get in the album that's awesome yeah i respect the shit out of that um finally do you get any sub canes when you're out there people yell it to you ever uh man when i'm on instagram i was like because when when when when when was it stand up again what year was it so it came out in uh 2014 2014 yeah yeah okay it's 2019 and i can sit there on my instagram and just go through the comments you know sexual chocolate oh yeah cane fan you know dark gable cane fan yo you're still in my top three cane fan subcane to the world of people subcane yeah yeah yeah still out there i'm happy about that yeah all the time all the time yeah and people don't uh we um because it was a great thrill for me
Starting point is 01:54:47 too like when you responded when i heard from you we collaborated on a shirt people don't know that we like we collaborated on a shirt um that sold out like immediately yeah i was um i was just having a conversation with someone last week about you about and that's what i was telling them i was like i said well listen um let me um put it to you like this i have my own big daddy cane t-shirts that i sell on my site and up until this point i think i may have sold about um 2500 i was like yo me and this dude put out a t-shirt that was gone like by the end of the week wow yeah yeah yeah i was like so yeah to answer your question he's a big doll yeah that shit moved man um um any uh is there anything there's no other video right
Starting point is 01:55:41 i have one question yeah go for it and if i don't ask it i'll just kick myself go ahead can we talk about Madonna i thought we did but go ahead you know what i mean though oh no no no nothing never happened between us oh what no no really you swear i promise you no oh man this whole time for years i've thought for sure the white boys at school don't have like that hey what are you gonna do so no nothing happened damn i mean did you did we at least try was there even was there any attraction yeah i mean i thought that she was a sweetheart and down to earth and you know you know show so much love but i mean you know i was i was there i was i was there
Starting point is 01:56:43 i mean it looks like you guys got along in that picture i don't know yeah you know i mean i was there to work man and i mean you know i was just trying to keep it professional and i mean you know this is something that's been going on for you know um years throughout the industry is a question i get asked a lot and i mean it kind of hurt my feeling a little bit you know because i mean you know at the end of the day i mean shit i'm big daddy came man if i did do something with this she would have told you right good point touche yeah yeah that's true that's true um no shit i tell everybody yeah for sure god well come on it's big daddy came well yeah look uh there's other rooms in here if you want to go i'm married jesus all right so um you can't take her anywhere um
Starting point is 01:57:37 oh this is what i want to ask uh just for the listeners viewers um are there any dates coming up you want to plug anywhere that uh people should look for live shows anything like that um yeah you asked me something that i can't even answer off hand but you'll post on instagram but yeah i always post on instagram my mom you can follow me instagram facebook at um official big daddy cane there and it's just at big daddy cane on twitter and for any upcoming dates it's all on my website big daddy came dot com there you go okay official big daddy came dot com right um i think it's both is it it's both because i'm on your instagram right now and uh that's very funny too on the gram yes i like your posts yeah um uh go see him live i mean this is like hip hop legend
Starting point is 01:58:25 amazing lyricist great guy hilarious guy thank you very much for coming today thank you so much no man i wouldn't want to be any wells man thank you guys really appreciate it all right we'll take you guys out we'll see you next week okay okay oh it 128
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